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What is the general consensus amongst the posters here about this relationship?
Was there anything in it?
Was it significant that the first person Jesus saw as a resurrected being was Mary?
Or is it all hogwash?

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Why wouldn't he appear first to his wife to share the joy of His glorious resurrection. Joseph changed the text of the scripture from "touch me not" to "hold me not". Can you imagine the power and joy of that triumphant embrace?

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You can either believe it was coincidence or not I'm my humble estimation... Perhaps the greatest personal visit in the complete history of this world... The one He visited was deliberate.

There is circumstantial evidence of their marriage. One apocryphal work has the apostles jealous of Jesus love for Mary M. Another scientist discovered a fragment of ancient parchment that says "Jesus wife"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Jesus%27_Wife

The same professor who discovered this supposedly admits it may be a forgery; however, there would be immense pressure to delegitimize something like this from the Catholic church and from mainstream Satan ... er science. :D
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I would say that if Jesus was married, she is the most likely candidate to be his wife.

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In my heart...I feel Jesus and Mary Magdalene are husband and wife.

That is just my gut feeling.

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I believe it 100% :)

"The Dynasty of the Holy Grail" by Vern Swanson is a REALLY good book on the subject! (Subtitled, Mormonism's Sacred Bloodline.)

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If Mary was Jesus' wife, why do the scriptures never ever point this out? It seems to me that Jesus, in his ministry, befriended Mary and her sister Martha and they were his disciples.

It is written that there is no secret interpretation of scriptures. They are for all to understand. The polygamists claim that everybody holy was part of polygamy and, in consequence, married to somebody.

Could it be that a wifely connection was edited out of the New Testament?

In no prophecy of Christ was a wife ever mentioned. It seems that his mission was to be a solo one.

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I believe that the women Jesus in mortality was closest to were His mother Mary, and Mary of Bethany the sister of Martha and Lazareth.
Dusty52 wrote: July 19th, 2018, 8:19 am What is the general consensus amongst the posters here about this relationship?
Was there anything in it?
Was it significant that the first person Jesus saw as a resurrected being was Mary?
Or is it all hogwash?

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Chip wrote: July 19th, 2018, 12:24 pm If Mary was Jesus' wife, why do the scriptures never ever point this out? It seems to me that Jesus, in his ministry, befriended Mary and her sister Martha and they were his disciples.

It is written that there is no secret interpretation of scriptures. They are for all to understand. The polygamists claim that everybody holy was part of polygamy and, in consequence, married to somebody.

Could it be that a wifely connection was edited out of the New Testament?

In no prophecy of Christ was a wife ever mentioned. It seems that his mission was to be a solo one.
Didn't the Bible pass through Constantine? According to Nag Hammadi scripts Mary has her own gospel. Not good for the Roman patriarchy.

My own opinion is Jesus rescued her and then fell in love with her and they got married.

Browsing through the library I found a book that said the Illuminati believes he had 2 wives and I think 4 daughters.

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Juliet wrote: July 19th, 2018, 1:11 pmthe illuminati believes he has 2 wives
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The two Owls (Wives) of the God Messiah, on either side; with the great Bull`Horns of Power and Fertility. After all, the God of the Bible is in fact El the Bull God.

So it was typed in Moses, who married his two women, and who came from His Mount with the dual Horns of God of fertility and might.
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In regards to the original post, I contend it is doctrinally impossible for Jesus to have been unmarried. I contend that if it weren’t so, not only would it have been impossible for Him to perform the Atonement, but even work the most basic of miracles. Priesthood power - real Priesthood power - has always been achieved through sexuality; hence the all-encompassing importance of the Woman. Hence the jealousy and bitterness of the devil. Hence the hidden nature of Heavenly Mother, and Eve.

This is the great secret of the “fruits” of “Eden”. He with an ear to hear let him hear.

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In Corinthians 7, Paul admonishes missionaries not to marry, so that they may better serve the Lord. Might Christ have set such an example to Paul? Christ was the ultimate missionary.

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abijah wrote: July 19th, 2018, 2:19 pm
Juliet wrote: July 19th, 2018, 1:11 pmthe illuminati believes he has 2 wives
So it was typed in Moses, who married his two women, and who came from His Mount with the dual Horns of God of fertility and might.

In regards to the original post, I contend it is doctrinally impossible for Jesus to have been unmarried. I contend that if it weren’t so, not only would it have been impossible for Him to perform the Atonement, but even work the most basic of miracles. Priesthood power - real Priesthood power - has always been achieved through sexuality; hence the all-encompassing importance of the Woman. Hence the jealousy and bitterness of the devil. Hence the hidden nature of Heavenly Mother, and Eve.

This is the great secret of the “fruits” of “Eden”. He with an ear to hear let him hear.
Super interesting - Who was it that said Jesus was married to Mary and Martha - was that Orson Pratt?

One thing is certain, that there were several holy women that greatly loved Jesus — such as Mary, and Martha her sister, and Mary Magdalene; and Jesus greatly loved them, and associated with them much; and when He arose from the dead, instead of showing Himself to His chosen witnesses, the Apostles, He appeared first to these women, or at least to one of them — namely, Mary Magdalene. Now it would be natural for a husband in the resurrection to appear first to his own dear wives, and afterwards show himself to his other friends. If all the acts of Jesus were written, we no doubt should learn that these beloved women were His wives” (Orson Pratt -The Seer, p.159).

I was unaware of this one:

“Evening Meeting. Prayer By E Stephenson. Joseph F Smith spoke One hour & 25 M. He spoke upon the Marriage in Cana at Galilee. He thought Jesus was the Bridgegroom and Mary & Martha the brides. He also refered to Luke 10 ch. 38 to 42 verse, Also John 11 ch. 2 & 5 vers John 12 Ch 3d vers, John 20 8 to 18. Joseph Smith spoke upon these passages to show that Mary & Martha manifested much Closer relationship than Merely A Believer which looks Consistet. He did not think that Jesus who decended throug Poligamous families from Abraham down & who fulfilled all the Law even baptism by immersion would have lived and died without being married.” (~Wilford Woodruff, Wilford Woodruff’s Journal 8:187, July 22, 1883, spelling left intact).

I was thinking on how the dispensations in reverse are an ascent back to God - Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - and Joseph - are also a symbol of this progression. Think of progression up through from the 12 tribes up through Jacob (Christ symbol) and through Abraham (Elohim symbol) -

Abraham - two wives, and two sons - one birthright and one cursed lineage
Isaac - one wife (D&C 132 says more than one) and two sons - one birthright and one cursed
Jacob - Twelve Sons - all are a part of Israel - one birthright son
Joseph - one wife - two sons, one birthright and one lineage that apparently was also cursed (Book of Mormon)

So two wives / two sons doesn't seem like a stretch here to fit within this pattern of two sons wherein one is a birthright son and one not. Is Jacob / Israel the symbol of the division of souls / tribes who are progressing as a part of God's people whereas Isaac and Abraham represent a matured God who - over time - has only two branches of children - the blessed and the cursed - a more mature sifting so to speak.

If so ... then I wonder if Jesus has two sons and two lineages in His house - the blessed / birthright and the cursed. *chin scratch*

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Alaris wrote: July 19th, 2018, 3:06 pm
abijah wrote: July 19th, 2018, 2:19 pm
Juliet wrote: July 19th, 2018, 1:11 pmthe illuminati believes he has 2 wives
So it was typed in Moses, who married his two women, and who came from His Mount with the dual Horns of God of fertility and might.

In regards to the original post, I contend it is doctrinally impossible for Jesus to have been unmarried. I contend that if it weren’t so, not only would it have been impossible for Him to perform the Atonement, but even work the most basic of miracles. Priesthood power - real Priesthood power - has always been achieved through sexuality; hence the all-encompassing importance of the Woman. Hence the jealousy and bitterness of the devil. Hence the hidden nature of Heavenly Mother, and Eve.

This is the great secret of the “fruits” of “Eden”. He with an ear to hear let him hear.
Super interesting - Who was it that said Jesus was married to Mary and Martha - was that Orson Pratt?

One thing is certain, that there were several holy women that greatly loved Jesus — such as Mary, and Martha her sister, and Mary Magdalene; and Jesus greatly loved them, and associated with them much; and when He arose from the dead, instead of showing Himself to His chosen witnesses, the Apostles, He appeared first to these women, or at least to one of them — namely, Mary Magdalene. Now it would be natural for a husband in the resurrection to appear first to his own dear wives, and afterwards show himself to his other friends. If all the acts of Jesus were written, we no doubt should learn that these beloved women were His wives” (Orson Pratt -The Seer, p.159).

I was unaware of this one:

“Evening Meeting. Prayer By E Stephenson. Joseph F Smith spoke One hour & 25 M. He spoke upon the Marriage in Cana at Galilee. He thought Jesus was the Bridgegroom and Mary & Martha the brides. He also refered to Luke 10 ch. 38 to 42 verse, Also John 11 ch. 2 & 5 vers John 12 Ch 3d vers, John 20 8 to 18. Joseph Smith spoke upon these passages to show that Mary & Martha manifested much Closer relationship than Merely A Believer which looks Consistet. He did not think that Jesus who decended throug Poligamous families from Abraham down & who fulfilled all the Law even baptism by immersion would have lived and died without being married.” (~Wilford Woodruff, Wilford Woodruff’s Journal 8:187, July 22, 1883, spelling left intact).

I was thinking on how the dispensations in reverse are an ascent back to God - Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - and Joseph - are also a symbol of this progression. Think of progression up through from the 12 tribes up through Jacob (Christ symbol) and through Abraham (Elohim symbol) -

Abraham - two wives, and two sons - one birthright and one cursed lineage
Isaac - one wife (D&C 132 says more than one) and two sons - one birthright and one cursed
Jacob - Twelve Sons - all are a part of Israel - one birthright son
Joseph - one wife - two sons, one birthright and one lineage that apparently was also cursed (Book of Mormon)

So two wives / two sons doesn't seem like a stretch here to fit within this pattern of two sons wherein one is a birthright son and one not. Is Jacob / Israel the symbol of the division of souls / tribes who are progressing as a part of God's people whereas Isaac and Abraham represent a matured God who - over time - has only two branches of children - the blessed and the cursed - a more mature sifting so to speak.

If so ... then I wonder if Jesus has two sons and two lineages in His house - the blessed / birthright and the cursed. *chin scratch*
The book I mentioned above makes that claim and says Joseph smith came from his bloodline

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ElizaRSkousen wrote: July 19th, 2018, 8:00 pm
Alaris wrote: July 19th, 2018, 3:06 pm
abijah wrote: July 19th, 2018, 2:19 pm
Juliet wrote: July 19th, 2018, 1:11 pmthe illuminati believes he has 2 wives
So it was typed in Moses, who married his two women, and who came from His Mount with the dual Horns of God of fertility and might.

In regards to the original post, I contend it is doctrinally impossible for Jesus to have been unmarried. I contend that if it weren’t so, not only would it have been impossible for Him to perform the Atonement, but even work the most basic of miracles. Priesthood power - real Priesthood power - has always been achieved through sexuality; hence the all-encompassing importance of the Woman. Hence the jealousy and bitterness of the devil. Hence the hidden nature of Heavenly Mother, and Eve.

This is the great secret of the “fruits” of “Eden”. He with an ear to hear let him hear.
Super interesting - Who was it that said Jesus was married to Mary and Martha - was that Orson Pratt?

One thing is certain, that there were several holy women that greatly loved Jesus — such as Mary, and Martha her sister, and Mary Magdalene; and Jesus greatly loved them, and associated with them much; and when He arose from the dead, instead of showing Himself to His chosen witnesses, the Apostles, He appeared first to these women, or at least to one of them — namely, Mary Magdalene. Now it would be natural for a husband in the resurrection to appear first to his own dear wives, and afterwards show himself to his other friends. If all the acts of Jesus were written, we no doubt should learn that these beloved women were His wives” (Orson Pratt -The Seer, p.159).

I was unaware of this one:

“Evening Meeting. Prayer By E Stephenson. Joseph F Smith spoke One hour & 25 M. He spoke upon the Marriage in Cana at Galilee. He thought Jesus was the Bridgegroom and Mary & Martha the brides. He also refered to Luke 10 ch. 38 to 42 verse, Also John 11 ch. 2 & 5 vers John 12 Ch 3d vers, John 20 8 to 18. Joseph Smith spoke upon these passages to show that Mary & Martha manifested much Closer relationship than Merely A Believer which looks Consistet. He did not think that Jesus who decended throug Poligamous families from Abraham down & who fulfilled all the Law even baptism by immersion would have lived and died without being married.” (~Wilford Woodruff, Wilford Woodruff’s Journal 8:187, July 22, 1883, spelling left intact).

I was thinking on how the dispensations in reverse are an ascent back to God - Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - and Joseph - are also a symbol of this progression. Think of progression up through from the 12 tribes up through Jacob (Christ symbol) and through Abraham (Elohim symbol) -

Abraham - two wives, and two sons - one birthright and one cursed lineage
Isaac - one wife (D&C 132 says more than one) and two sons - one birthright and one cursed
Jacob - Twelve Sons - all are a part of Israel - one birthright son
Joseph - one wife - two sons, one birthright and one lineage that apparently was also cursed (Book of Mormon)

So two wives / two sons doesn't seem like a stretch here to fit within this pattern of two sons wherein one is a birthright son and one not. Is Jacob / Israel the symbol of the division of souls / tribes who are progressing as a part of God's people whereas Isaac and Abraham represent a matured God who - over time - has only two branches of children - the blessed and the cursed - a more mature sifting so to speak.

If so ... then I wonder if Jesus has two sons and two lineages in His house - the blessed / birthright and the cursed. *chin scratch*
The book I mentioned above makes that claim and says Joseph smith came from his bloodline
That book is brilliant. The author’s conclusion that Joseph Smith is the grail heir is not.

But the true Rex-Deus will come however.

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abijah wrote: July 19th, 2018, 8:20 pm
ElizaRSkousen wrote: July 19th, 2018, 8:00 pm The book I mentioned above makes that claim and says Joseph smith came from his bloodline
That book is brilliant. The author’s conclusion that Joseph Smith is the grail heir is not.

But the true Rex-Deus will come however.
Joseph may have had the Ephraimic birthright only.

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Alaris wrote: July 19th, 2018, 8:30 pm
abijah wrote: July 19th, 2018, 8:20 pm
ElizaRSkousen wrote: July 19th, 2018, 8:00 pm The book I mentioned above makes that claim and says Joseph smith came from his bloodline
That book is brilliant. The author’s conclusion that Joseph Smith is the grail heir is not.

But the true Rex-Deus will come however.
Joseph may have had the Ephraimic birthright only.
A good thought, but I do really believe he had a lot of Judah in him.

I believe Joseph Smith (among many others) is a direct descendant of Jesus. Joseph Smith himself knew this:
Brethren, if I were to tell you all I know of the kingdom of God, I do know that you would rise up and kill me
He knew others were too:

D & C 86
9 For ye are lawful heirs, according to the flesh, and have been hid from the world with Christ in God--
God lives. He lives in His heir. This is the secret of the Name of Elohim. He with a multiplicity of Glories, of Selves, of overcomings. He lives through and is multiplied & enlarged by His heir.

Elohim, by definition of His own Name, lives in Jesus, and will live in Michael. Michael, who has yet to obtain this sacred Name of YHWH. And he will:

Isaiah 63 (emphasis added)
12 That led them by the right hand of Moses with his glorious arm, dividing the water before them, to make himself an everlasting name?
and...
the Spirit of the Lord caused him to rest: so didst thou lead thy people, to make thyself a glorious name.
He will obtain this Name. And the saints will echo Isaiah’s song:
16 Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.

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abijah wrote: July 19th, 2018, 2:19 pm
Juliet wrote: July 19th, 2018, 1:11 pmthe illuminati believes he has 2 wives
So it was typed in Moses, who married his two women, and who came from His Mount with the dual Horns of God of fertility and might.

In regards to the original post, I contend it is doctrinally impossible for Jesus to have been unmarried. I contend that if it weren’t so, not only would it have been impossible for Him to perform the Atonement, but even work the most basic of miracles. Priesthood power - real Priesthood power - has always been achieved through sexuality; hence the all-encompassing importance of the Woman. Hence the jealousy and bitterness of the devil. Hence the hidden nature of Heavenly Mother, and Eve.

This is the great secret of the “fruits” of “Eden”. He with an ear to hear let him hear.
I always wondered if there was a connotation to sexuality what with the way the term is worded, how we say the brethren "Hold the Priesthood" and in Jeremiah 31:22 it says a new thing shall occur in the earth, a woman shall compass a man.

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Chip wrote: July 19th, 2018, 12:24 pm If Mary was Jesus' wife, why do the scriptures never ever point this out? It seems to me that Jesus, in his ministry, befriended Mary and her sister Martha and they were his disciples.

It is written that there is no secret interpretation of scriptures. They are for all to understand. The polygamists claim that everybody holy was part of polygamy and, in consequence, married to somebody.

Could it be that a wifely connection was edited out of the New Testament?

In no prophecy of Christ was a wife ever mentioned. It seems that his mission was to be a solo one.
This is another doctrine tainted by polygamy. These roots run deep. Not only have modern prophets and apostles taught he was married, but that he was a polygamist!!!

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Hie'ing to Kolob wrote: July 19th, 2018, 9:04 pm
Chip wrote: July 19th, 2018, 12:24 pm If Mary was Jesus' wife, why do the scriptures never ever point this out? It seems to me that Jesus, in his ministry, befriended Mary and her sister Martha and they were his disciples.

It is written that there is no secret interpretation of scriptures. They are for all to understand. The polygamists claim that everybody holy was part of polygamy and, in consequence, married to somebody.

Could it be that a wifely connection was edited out of the New Testament?

In no prophecy of Christ was a wife ever mentioned. It seems that his mission was to be a solo one.
This is another doctrine tainted by polygamy. These roots run deep. Not only have modern prophets and apostles taught he was married, but that he was a polygamist!!!
Suffer the little head to redefine the God head.

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abijah wrote: July 19th, 2018, 2:19 pm
Juliet wrote: July 19th, 2018, 1:11 pmthe illuminati believes he has 2 wives
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The two Owls (Wives) of the God Messiah, on either side; with the great Bull`Horns of Power and Fertility. After all, the God of the Bible is in fact El the Bull God.

So it was typed in Moses, who married his two women, and who came from His Mount with the dual Horns of God of fertility and might.

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In regards to the original post, I contend it is doctrinally impossible for Jesus to have been unmarried. I contend that if it weren’t so, not only would it have been impossible for Him to perform the Atonement, but even work the most basic of miracles. Priesthood power - real Priesthood power - has always been achieved through sexuality; hence the all-encompassing importance of the Woman. Hence the jealousy and bitterness of the devil. Hence the hidden nature of Heavenly Mother, and Eve.

This is the great secret of the “fruits” of “Eden”. He with an ear to hear let him hear.
Um.....the fruits were spiritual fruits. Remember god opens the womb of Sarah. God names issac. Abraham names Ishmael. Sarah doesn’t opening it by offering Hagar. It’s a marriage covenant not a polygamy covenant. The serpent on the cross is the serpent raised up around the word (staff or rod). And might the dual horns also be the same symbol of “cloven tongues”?

Fertility is part of all of this. But there is a counterfeit. Was Christ born of a virgin because God needed a man to do it? No . God can raise “seed” up all by himself. I don’t understand how people don’t understand that. We are under a covenant of grace not works.

P.s. the Illuminati also performed cultic sex rituals. The movie eyes wide shut is a spin off of Illuminati practices sensationalized but the reality is....that stuff really happened (and maybe still does). Gross right.

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Juliet wrote: July 19th, 2018, 8:52 pm
abijah wrote: July 19th, 2018, 2:19 pm
Juliet wrote: July 19th, 2018, 1:11 pmthe illuminati believes he has 2 wives
So it was typed in Moses, who married his two women, and who came from His Mount with the dual Horns of God of fertility and might.

In regards to the original post, I contend it is doctrinally impossible for Jesus to have been unmarried. I contend that if it weren’t so, not only would it have been impossible for Him to perform the Atonement, but even work the most basic of miracles. Priesthood power - real Priesthood power - has always been achieved through sexuality; hence the all-encompassing importance of the Woman. Hence the jealousy and bitterness of the devil. Hence the hidden nature of Heavenly Mother, and Eve.

This is the great secret of the “fruits” of “Eden”. He with an ear to hear let him hear.
I always wondered if there was a connotation to sexuality what with the way the term is worded, how we say the brethren "Hold the Priesthood" and in Jeremiah 31:22 it says a new thing shall occur in the earth, a woman shall compass a man.
Priesthoods false and true are symbolised everywhere:
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The Star of David itself is the symbol of the God & the Goddess, the 666, the number and union of Man (or, the combined Man & Woman). The power in which they will finally grasp the fruit of the Tree of Life (even better than sex), and enable the healing of mankind.
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The first letter in the Hebrew alphabet (ALEPH - BET) is the aleph. The second is the bet, or the house (womb) of God. The aleph is the shape of a bull’s head. Hence the repeated bull symbolism of the male. The beth the symbol of a uterus.
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For true, sex is everywhere in the Gospel. Maybe this is why Satan makes war upon it as he does, with the homosexual agenda, onslaught on gender itself and attack on the righteous heterosexual union patterned after the Gods.

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Chip wrote: July 19th, 2018, 2:43 pm In Corinthians 7, Paul admonishes missionaries not to marry, so that they may better serve the Lord. Might Christ have set such an example to Paul? Christ was the ultimate missionary.
I am not sure how one can be a good example if they are purposely avoiding to do what they preach. One can't proclaim that marriage is of God while at the same time purposely avoiding it. It would come to down to the old phrase of "practice what you preach".

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"This is another doctrine tainted by polygamy. These roots run deep. Not only have modern prophets and apostles taught he was married, but that he was a polygamist!!!"


Some held to that view but they never really "taught" it. It is clear that such a view never took root in the Church and was spread around much.

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TrueIntent wrote: July 19th, 2018, 9:31 pm
abijah wrote: July 19th, 2018, 2:19 pm
Juliet wrote: July 19th, 2018, 1:11 pmthe illuminati believes he has 2 wives
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The two Owls (Wives) of the God Messiah, on either side; with the great Bull`Horns of Power and Fertility. After all, the God of the Bible is in fact El the Bull God.

So it was typed in Moses, who married his two women, and who came from His Mount with the dual Horns of God of fertility and might.

5BD1F7AA-B48D-4E8F-8D5E-DD119EA5D2DB.jpeg

126C5722-6233-4642-ABEE-252D4CB239EC.jpeg

In regards to the original post, I contend it is doctrinally impossible for Jesus to have been unmarried. I contend that if it weren’t so, not only would it have been impossible for Him to perform the Atonement, but even work the most basic of miracles. Priesthood power - real Priesthood power - has always been achieved through sexuality; hence the all-encompassing importance of the Woman. Hence the jealousy and bitterness of the devil. Hence the hidden nature of Heavenly Mother, and Eve.

This is the great secret of the “fruits” of “Eden”. He with an ear to hear let him hear.
Um.....the fruits were spiritual fruits. Remember god opens the womb of Sarah. God names issac. Abraham names Ishmael. Sarah doesn’t opening it by offering Hagar. It’s a marriage covenant not a polygamy covenant. The serpent on the cross is the serpent raised up around the word (staff or rod). And might the dual horns also be the same symbol of “cloven tongues”?

Fertility is part of all of this. But there is a counterfeit. Was Christ born of a virgin because God needed a man to do it? No . God can raise “seed” up all by himself. I don’t understand how people don’t understand that. We are under a covenant of grace not works.

P.s. the Illuminati also performed cultic sex rituals. The movie eyes wide shut is a spin off of Illuminati practices sensationalized but the reality is....that stuff really happened (and maybe still does). Gross right.
Spiritual fruits?

I say spiritual and physical. Men have some comprehension of what the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is. They have even less of what the fruit of the tree of life is.

I would wager its impossible to know who Adam is, who Eve is, or the Gods of the Endowment until coming to an understanding of these basic facts.

Horns and cloven tongues? Two symbols of the same person, the TORAH (the TOR of YAH), the Bull of Jehovah.

Claven tongues? Serpent imagery:
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Nuwa and Fuxi of Chinese mythology, twin serpents, the God bearing the Square, the Goddess the Compass, by which they measured and created the uni-verse (one-song, one flesh):
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The twin serpents of Adam & Eve ascending the stairway to heaven, and the righteous of their offspring with them:
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I know that the wicked perform sexual cultic rituals. The greatest lies are formed upon the greatest truths. What they were mimicking will be fulfilled at last in the endtime, and the fiery sword and cherubim who guard the way to the tree of life will be gone, and men may partake freely of that certain fruit, which I solemnly testify is more than merely “spiritual”.

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Re: Mary Magdalene and her relationship with Jesus

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carbon dioxide wrote: July 19th, 2018, 10:44 pm "This is another doctrine tainted by polygamy. These roots run deep. Not only have modern prophets and apostles taught he was married, but that he was a polygamist!!!"


Some held to that view but they never really "taught" it. It is clear that such a view never took root in the Church and was spread around much.
The Seer was the Church periodical of the time. The below did not represent fringe thinking. This was mainstream thought.

“... it will be seen that the great Messiah who was the founder of the Christian religion was a polygamist... the Messiah chose... by marrying many honorable wives himself, to show to all future generations that he approbated the plurality of wives under the Christian dispensation in which His polygamist ancestors lived.
“We have clearly show that God the Father had a plurality of wives, one or more being in eternity, by whom He begat our spirits as well as the spirit of Jesus His First Born, and another being upon the earth by whom He begat the tabernacle of Jesus, as his only begotten in this world. We have also proved most clearly that the Son followed the example of his Father, and became the great Bridegroom to whom Kings' daughters and many honorable wives were to be married. We have also proved that both God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ inherit their wives in eternity as well as in time... And then it would be so shocking to the modesty of the very pious ladies of Christendom to see Abraham and his wives, Jacob and his wives, Jesus and his honorable wives, all eating occasionally at the same table, and visiting one another, and conversing about their numerous children and their kingdoms. Oh, ye delicate ladies of Christendom, how can you endure such a scene as this?... If you do not want your morals corrupted, and your delicate ears shocked, and your pious modesty put to the blush by the society of Polygamists and their wives, do not venture near the New Earth; for polygamists will be honored there, and will be among the chief rules in that Kingdom.”

- Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 172

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