The Eternal Fate of Judas

[Dusty52]

Some years ago I taught a gospel doctrine lesson and I learned a lot about Judas, but there were a few outstanding issues that remained unresolved
1. When the saviour called Judas to the 12 did he know ultimately that he would at some point betray him?
2. If after the deed was done instead of killing himself he went to the saviour and asked for his forgiveness would he have been forgiven? or was it too late? It's never too late is it?
3. What is his status on an eternal basis? Is his act beyond the reach of the atonement? Is he know a son of perdition?
I would be interested to hear your comments

[Red]

Judas was possessed by the devil when he betrayed Christ. Luke 22:3, john 13:27. He was forgiven.

[Durzan]

Some years ago I taught a gospel doctrine lesson and I learned a lot about Judas, but there were a few outstanding issues that remained unresolved
1. When the saviour called Judas to the 12 did he know ultimately that he would at some point betray him?
2. If after the deed was done instead of killing himself he went to the saviour and asked for his forgiveness would he have been forgiven? or was it too late? It's never too late is it?
3. What is his status on an eternal basis? Is his act beyond the reach of the atonement? Is he know a son of perdition?
I would be interested to hear your comments

1. Its implied and generally assumed to be the case. Christ was a God on earth, and likely didn't suffer from the Veil nearly as much as we do.
2. Actually, thats an interesting question. It all depends on whether or not Judas was denying the holy ghost with his actions or not (and you can argue both ways fairly well). If he knew or realized that Christ was going to be resurrected, I suppose he might've tried to ask for forgiveness. Generally speaking I am one of the people who falls into the camp of "its never too late" camp... but probably thats just cause part of me seriously wants to see everyone redeemed. I think Christ would've forgiven him, Christ is the kind of man who would do just that. The real question would be whether the other 11 apostles would forgive him and accept him back into the fold.
3. Traditionally, we assume that Judas is a son of perdition. However, he doesn't display the traits that define a son of perdition: he is sorrowful and regretted his action. Sons of Perdition are only unredeemable because they harden their heart so much that they fully commit to active and open rebellion against God and seek no form of Reconciliation with the Lord at all... as such, part of me thinks that Judas may not actually be a son of perdition, although he likely lost any and all chance of exaltation.

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[The Airbender]

Some years ago I taught a gospel doctrine lesson and I learned a lot about Judas, but there were a few outstanding issues that remained unresolved
1. When the saviour called Judas to the 12 did he know ultimately that he would at some point betray him?
2. If after the deed was done instead of killing himself he went to the saviour and asked for his forgiveness would he have been forgiven? or was it too late? It's never too late is it?
3. What is his status on an eternal basis? Is his act beyond the reach of the atonement? Is he know a son of perdition?
I would be interested to hear your comments

By committing suicide, he was doing the only thing that could semi-atone for his betrayal. A life for a life. The Savior himself says, "I know who I have chosen" indicating that yes, he did know that Judas would betray him. He also said it would have been better that Judas had not been born. What does that mean? Obviously it isn't good.