Is Childbearing pain, etc all down to Eve?

[Dusty52]

It seems like the creation of a woman in the garden was an afterthought, man was created and then it was thought that it wasn't good for man to be alone, (I would of thought this would of been an eternal principle and truth, before the world was created) why the sudden realisation in the garden? then God decided to create Eve?
I would of thought that everything would have been pre-planned and prepared, it seems in reading Genesis that God just made it up as he went along?

Actually Lillith was created before Eve, and when she rebelled, G_d was speaking out loud to those around him, and deciding to try again with the creation of Eve. Even though He planned everything from the beginning before the beginning!

Who's Lillith? Where does she come into the picture?

[Kingdom of ZION]

It seems like the creation of a woman in the garden was an afterthought, man was created and then it was thought that it wasn't good for man to be alone, (I would of thought this would of been an eternal principle and truth, before the world was created) why the sudden realisation in the garden? then God decided to create Eve?
I would of thought that everything would have been pre-planned and prepared, it seems in reading Genesis that God just made it up as he went along?

Actually Lillith was created before Eve, and when she rebelled, G_d was speaking out loud to those around him, and deciding to try again with the creation of Eve. Even though He planned everything from the beginning before the beginning!

Who's Lillith? Where does she come into the picture?

I believe that their were three Eve's (Mothers of all living). Lillith come out of the writings of the Jews. A google will bring up wikipedia and other pages that speak about her. I do not believe she left and followed demons. But yes she was the Eve that sired the cursed seed from the Serpent (see Genesis and Moses).

[Michelle]

Okay I'm going to be that one lady who everyone hates...

I have home births and would not classify them as painful. I was telling jokes while pushing my daughter out.

Tmi I know. But true. I really think it was because of all the oxytocin pumping through us. But honestly I did not feel bad pain.

This has been my experience as well.

Not for my 3 hospital births, but my 4 home births.

[Michelle]

The pain isn't Eve's fault is is all of our faults because we all believe in fear too much. When we learn to trust 100 percent and fear not then there won't be pain in my opinion and research shows that oxytocin turns off the pain in the brain. But fear can't coexist with oxytocin. This is easier said then done because part of overcoming fear is to have our needs met, and that can take a lifetime to figure out how to do.

There is a scene in Indiana Jones where he is about to get his faced pushed into the moving tread of tank tires.

That just about sums up the intensity of child birth. It can completely scare the living daylights out of you but it also is the most high adernaline thrill of your life and you will never be the same afterwards. You can be afraid or you can embrace the intensity of it.

My baby is three weeks old. It was so painful but now the pain is gone and I can't help but want to have another one.

I imagine when our husbands are perfect...ok maybe not; but when we as women are perfect, there will be less pain and more pleasure. It is all about making the hormones work for you and not against you. But it is a journey to figure out exactly how to do that. I certainly don't know if I can get any closer in this lifetime to that ideal. But I believe painless childbirth can exist. But due to the life changing nature of it, it will always be intense.

Yes it happened to me! It's totally possible.

You had no pain in childbirth? Like literally no nerve signals to the brain indicating any pain?

No I felt it, it was strong and pressure sensations but I didn't cry or scream or anything. I sweated a lot though. It was intense, like the kind of good 'pain' during a long marathon or something.

It was enjoyable actually. The first thing I said to my father in law the next day was "I could do that again in a year!"

I also looked forward to future births after the good ones. There is a certain satisfaction, like completing a hard physical goal. (Maybe like a marathon, I've never actually run one.)

[Crackers]

I think once you decide to birth in a hospital, you lose any ability to direct what goes on. That has been my experience anyway. I have tried different doctors and midwives, thinking with each one that I would have more freedom with timing, birthing positions, etc., but once you're there you seem to be subject to their dictates and the policies of the hospital. I would definitely looker harder at different options were I doing this today.

[Michelle]

I think once you decide to birth in a hospital, you lose any ability to direct what goes on. That has been my experience anyway. I have tried different doctors and midwives, thinking with each one that I would have more freedom with timing, birthing positions, etc., but once you're there you seem to be subject to their dictates and the policies of the hospital. I would definitely looker harder at different options were I doing this today.

I was afraid to do homebirth, so the Lord took the decision from me and I am so grateful. The third was born at home on accident, but the direction I received from Spirit was such a testimony builder for me.

My babies come quick and with less pain now.

The most painful homebirth was when I was tired and I didn't want to have the baby that day and resisted. I lost control a bit at the end and cried out. But when I submit, there is not really pain, but intense pressure and satisfaction.

I agree that at the hospital we have less options, so the Spirit gives less direction.

He won't tell a woman to get up and move to a different position if she is laying on a table with an epidural that makes such movements impossible.

[ElizaRSkousen]

I think once you decide to birth in a hospital, you lose any ability to direct what goes on. That has been my experience anyway. I have tried different doctors and midwives, thinking with each one that I would have more freedom with timing, birthing positions, etc., but once you're there you seem to be subject to their dictates and the policies of the hospital. I would definitely looker harder at different options were I doing this today.

I was afraid to do homebirth, so the Lord took the decision from me and I am so grateful. The third was born at home on accident, but the direction I received from Spirit was such a testimony builder for me.

My babies come quick and with less pain now.

The most painful homebirth was when I was tired and I didn't want to have the baby that day and resisted. I lost control a bit at the end and cried out. But when I submit, there is not really pain, but intense pressure and satisfaction.

I agree that at the hospital we have less options, so the Spirit gives less direction.

He won't tell a woman to get up and move to a different position if she is laying on a table with an epidural that makes such movements impossible.

Oh that's a good point!

I was dancing around my house like a crazy person. It really helped!