The faith to heal yourself??

[drtanner]

Many in the world are teaching a principle these days that if you focus on the "present" (tuning in with the divine, inner energy of the universe, or light of Christ) you can actually heal yourself. "the power that made the body can heal the body" There is a popular documentary now that teaches this and many in the church are ascribing miracles to this principle:

My question is this. Does this jive with gospel teachings or does it go against them? If so how? If not why? Would love to know your thoughts. Another interesting question to think about:

If you can "heal" yourself, how does God's will fit into that equation. What about the faith "not to be healed?" (is this still a miracle and submission requires greater faith?)

One of my thoughts: Probably the greatest example is when the savior asked that the "cup" be taken from him nevertheless was willing to submit to the will of the father. In this instance he had the faith not to be healed so his life could benefit others and the greatest gift in the universe was manifest. What does this say of healing and faith in general?

Please share your thoughts, opinions, and of course if you can back it up with scriptures and words of the prophets even better. If you can't I still would love to hear your opinion and am interested in what everyone on the forum has to say regardless.

PS: even if I have disagreed with you on other threads don't let it keep you from sharing I still am trying to learn to love everyone and want to learn with you.

[inho]

I think that it is very important that we don't ever judge anyone else's faith based on if they are healed or not. It is part of prosperity gospel to believe that one can overcome any sickness. We do not adhere prosperity gospel.

Some people have faith to be healed, some don't. Others have faith, yet they're not meant to be healed. Even Paul had torn in his flesh.

[drtanner]

I think that it is very important that we don't ever judge anyone else's faith based on if they are healed or not. It is part of prosperity gospel to believe that one can overcome any sickness. We do not adhere prosperity gospel.

Some people have faith to be healed, some don't. Others have faith, yet they're not meant to be healed. Even Paul had torn in his flesh.

An important reminder Inho. Thank you. So do you believe this teaching of focusing on your own body in order to heal it is exercising faith or are they missing the mark?

[MMbelieve]

Fully believe in it. Each of us have a little seed of God in us, when we align our mentality more with godly mentality...what is to ever stop us from being the best we can be?

Our mental state is incredibly crucial and determines our physical state. I believe this 100%.

I also happen to believe that you can be healed the same as if you had Christ laying hands on your head when you are sitting there alone.

If we tap into the higher thoughts, the happy thoughts and the optimistic thoughts, we feel lighter and lifted and happier ourselves. This leads to healing as well.

[inho]

So do you believe this teaching of focusing on your own body in order to heal it is exercising faith or are they missing the mark?

I consider healing as a miracle and miracles don't happen unless we focus on Christ.

Moroni 7:33 And Christ hath said: If ye will have faith in me ye shall have power to do whatsoever thing is expedient in me.

See also D&C 88:64 or 3Ne 8:1 ("for he truly did many miracles in the name of Jesus").

[drtanner]

Fully believe in it. Each of us have a little seed of God in us, when we align our mentality more with godly mentality...what is to ever stop us from being the best we can be?

Our mental state is incredibly crucial and determines our physical state. I believe this 100%.

I also happen to believe that you can be healed the same as if you had Christ laying hands on your head when you are sitting there alone.

If we tap into the higher thoughts, the happy thoughts and the optimistic thoughts, we feel lighter and lifted and happier ourselves. This leads to healing as well.

How does having the “faith not to be healed” fit into this line of thinking?

[drtanner]

So do you believe this teaching of focusing on your own body in order to heal it is exercising faith or are they missing the mark?

I consider healing as a miracle and miracles don't happen unless we focus on Christ.

Moroni 7:33 And Christ hath said: If ye will have faith in me ye shall have power to do whatsoever thing is expedient in me.

See also D&C 88:64 or 3Ne 8:1 ("for he truly did many miracles in the name of Jesus").

Many in the video who say they are experiencing healing are not professing that the miracle occurred in name of Jesus, they attribue it to harnessing power through meditating and focusing on the areas that need healing. So a couple follow up questions to what your saying here:

Are they faking it?
If not are miracles being done in the name of Jesus (through his power / light) and they just don’t realize this is what it is?
Something else?

Appreciate your thoughts

[Finrock]

Fully believe in it. Each of us have a little seed of God in us, when we align our mentality more with godly mentality...what is to ever stop us from being the best we can be?

Our mental state is incredibly crucial and determines our physical state. I believe this 100%.

I also happen to believe that you can be healed the same as if you had Christ laying hands on your head when you are sitting there alone.

If we tap into the higher thoughts, the happy thoughts and the optimistic thoughts, we feel lighter and lifted and happier ourselves. This leads to healing as well.

How does having the “faith not to be healed” fit into this line of thinking?

If "faith not to be healed" doesn't fit in to this line of thinking, does that mean that this line of thinking (MMbelieve's line of thinking) is incorrect?

You asked in the OP what does "faith not to be healed" say about healing and faith in general, but, it appears you have some thoughts on what it says about healing and faith in general.

So, why do you think "faith not to be healed" matters to this question? In your view, what does it say about healing and faith in general?

-Finrock

[Finrock]

We ask, then, what are we to understand by a man’s working by faith? We answer we understand that when a man works by faith he works by mental exertion instead of physical force.

Source: Lectures on Faith, Lecture 7

-Finrock

[MMbelieve]

Fully believe in it. Each of us have a little seed of God in us, when we align our mentality more with godly mentality...what is to ever stop us from being the best we can be?

Our mental state is incredibly crucial and determines our physical state. I believe this 100%.

I also happen to believe that you can be healed the same as if you had Christ laying hands on your head when you are sitting there alone.

If we tap into the higher thoughts, the happy thoughts and the optimistic thoughts, we feel lighter and lifted and happier ourselves. This leads to healing as well.

How does having the “faith not to be healed” fit into this line of thinking?

The exact same way you have to be healed I suppose. I know that doest help.

I admit, when Bednar first posed this question it caused an uncomfortable divide in me. I may have even spoke outloud, that bogus, haha.

Over the years I'm not sure I fully understand this thought of not being healed. The best I can attempt to understand it is in the same enlightened or elevated mind you understand being healed, perhaps the enlightenment will also allow for you to understand and accept if healing was not going to happen for you on the matter you are thinking about. It's about understanding get the big picture and understanding God's way and purpose. If you can attune to God's healing waves he can also enlighten you on why you must live with said condition for a season.

The only other possible explanation is your not ready or prepared yet, there is something you must go through to learn those things you are supposed to learn.

But ultimately, I believe faith will eventually heal EVERYTHING.

[MMbelieve]

So do you believe this teaching of focusing on your own body in order to heal it is exercising faith or are they missing the mark?

I consider healing as a miracle and miracles don't happen unless we focus on Christ.

Moroni 7:33 And Christ hath said: If ye will have faith in me ye shall have power to do whatsoever thing is expedient in me.

See also D&C 88:64 or 3Ne 8:1 ("for he truly did many miracles in the name of Jesus").

Many in the video who say they are experiencing healing are not professing that the miracle occurred in name of Jesus, they attribue it to harnessing power through meditating and focusing on the areas that need healing. So a couple follow up questions to what your saying here:

Are they faking it?
If not are miracles being done in the name of Jesus (through his power / light) and they just don’t realize this is what it is?
Something else?

Appreciate your thoughts

This one is easy. Those people in the video give off good vibes and they are good people, they are not weird or off or bad. They simply are not recognizing as we think christians should recognize and give credit. I'm 100% sure those people in the video believe in a higher power than themselves and there, there is the credit to Christ. They are submitting to the laws of healing even though they are not doing it in a way that is prescribed or laid out plainly in our church.

If we dive into to blessings we receive and how the priesthood and God work, they are not far off in their thinking it's really just presented differently. Faith to be healed is not in faith to have hands laid upon your head. It's faith that a higher power has the ability to heal, that there are forces beyond our visual sight that can and do heal. If they prescribe to truths how can they be wrong? And that's as simple as that is. Truth is truth.

[inho]

We ask, then, what are we to understand by a man’s working by faith? We answer we understand that when a man works by faith he works by mental exertion instead of physical force.

Source: Lectures on Faith, Lecture 7

-Finrock

LoF, Lecture 2:

In him [God] the principle of faith dwells independently; and he is the object in whom the faith of all other rational and accountable beings centers, for life and salvation.

Guide to the Scriptures:

Confidence in something or someone. As most often used in the scriptures, faith is confidence and trust in Jesus Christ that lead a person to obey Him. Faith must be centered in Jesus Christ in order for it to lead a person to salvation.

Faith is not like force in Star Wars. When we exercise faith, it is not our own mental power that brings forth miracles. Miracles, such as healing, are manifestation of God's power.

[drtanner]

Fully believe in it. Each of us have a little seed of God in us, when we align our mentality more with godly mentality...what is to ever stop us from being the best we can be?

Our mental state is incredibly crucial and determines our physical state. I believe this 100%.

I also happen to believe that you can be healed the same as if you had Christ laying hands on your head when you are sitting there alone.

If we tap into the higher thoughts, the happy thoughts and the optimistic thoughts, we feel lighter and lifted and happier ourselves. This leads to healing as well.

How does having the “faith not to be healed” fit into this line of thinking?

If "faith not to be healed" doesn't fit in to this line of thinking, does that mean that this line of thinking (MMbelieve's line of thinking) is incorrect?

You asked in the OP what does "faith not to be healed" say about healing and faith in general, but, it appears you have some thoughts on what it says about healing and faith in general.

So, why do you think "faith not to be healed" matters to this question? In your view, what does it say about healing and faith in general?

-Finrock

Good questions, I don't think it necessarily means the view is incorrect. In my view it means that part of being "in tune" with the father is "knowing" his will and being willing to accept it. To me that seems to be the highest form of faith and from scriptural accounts unlocks the greatest levels to which we are allowed to participate in this power. However it would also seem that sometimes even when we "know" his will (as evidenced from Jesus' petition) that it is still ok to ask.

[drtanner]

So do you believe this teaching of focusing on your own body in order to heal it is exercising faith or are they missing the mark?

I consider healing as a miracle and miracles don't happen unless we focus on Christ.

Moroni 7:33 And Christ hath said: If ye will have faith in me ye shall have power to do whatsoever thing is expedient in me.

See also D&C 88:64 or 3Ne 8:1 ("for he truly did many miracles in the name of Jesus").

Many in the video who say they are experiencing healing are not professing that the miracle occurred in name of Jesus, they attribue it to harnessing power through meditating and focusing on the areas that need healing. So a couple follow up questions to what your saying here:

Are they faking it?
If not are miracles being done in the name of Jesus (through his power / light) and they just don’t realize this is what it is?
Something else?

Appreciate your thoughts

This one is easy. Those people in the video give off good vibes and they are good people, they are not weird or off or bad. They simply are not recognizing as we think christians should recognize and give credit. I'm 100% sure those people in the video believe in a higher power than themselves and there, there is the credit to Christ. They are submitting to the laws of healing even though they are not doing it in a way that is prescribed or laid out plainly in our church.

If we dive into to blessings we receive and how the priesthood and God work, they are not far off in their thinking it's really just presented differently. Faith to be healed is not in faith to have hands laid upon your head. It's faith that a higher power has the ability to heal, that there are forces beyond our visual sight that can and do heal. If they prescribe to truths how can they be wrong? And that's as simple as that is. Truth is truth.

OK so just so I understand you correctly, you believe they are doing those things by the power of Christ, they just don't realize that is what it is?

[MMbelieve]

I consider healing as a miracle and miracles don't happen unless we focus on Christ.

See also D&C 88:64 or 3Ne 8:1 ("for he truly did many miracles in the name of Jesus").

Many in the video who say they are experiencing healing are not professing that the miracle occurred in name of Jesus, they attribue it to harnessing power through meditating and focusing on the areas that need healing. So a couple follow up questions to what your saying here:

Are they faking it?
If not are miracles being done in the name of Jesus (through his power / light) and they just don’t realize this is what it is?
Something else?

Appreciate your thoughts

This one is easy. Those people in the video give off good vibes and they are good people, they are not weird or off or bad. They simply are not recognizing as we think christians should recognize and give credit. I'm 100% sure those people in the video believe in a higher power than themselves and there, there is the credit to Christ. They are submitting to the laws of healing even though they are not doing it in a way that is prescribed or laid out plainly in our church.

If we dive into to blessings we receive and how the priesthood and God work, they are not far off in their thinking it's really just presented differently. Faith to be healed is not in faith to have hands laid upon your head. It's faith that a higher power has the ability to heal, that there are forces beyond our visual sight that can and do heal. If they prescribe to truths how can they be wrong? And that's as simple as that is. Truth is truth.

OK so just so I understand you correctly, you believe they are doing those things by the power of Christ, they just don't realize that is what it is?

Absolutely

[Finrock]

We ask, then, what are we to understand by a man’s working by faith? We answer we understand that when a man works by faith he works by mental exertion instead of physical force.

Source: Lectures on Faith, Lecture 7

-Finrock

LoF, Lecture 2:

In him [God] the principle of faith dwells independently; and he is the object in whom the faith of all other rational and accountable beings centers, for life and salvation.

Guide to the Scriptures:

Confidence in something or someone. As most often used in the scriptures, faith is confidence and trust in Jesus Christ that lead a person to obey Him. Faith must be centered in Jesus Christ in order for it to lead a person to salvation.

Faith is not like force in Star Wars. When we exercise faith, it is not our own mental power that brings forth miracles. Miracles, such as healing, are manifestation of God's power.

Christ is life/light/truth. We can possess the spirit of Christ. Everything we do is based on our mental power. Faith is a principle of action. God's power dwells in us or it doesn't. We either believe or we don't. Every manifestation of God that any given individual perceives occurs in the mind. How else do we perceive it? How else do we experience God, but in our minds? If we are filled with light/life/truth, then we are filled with Christ.

-Finrock

[Finrock]

I consider healing as a miracle and miracles don't happen unless we focus on Christ.

See also D&C 88:64 or 3Ne 8:1 ("for he truly did many miracles in the name of Jesus").

Many in the video who say they are experiencing healing are not professing that the miracle occurred in name of Jesus, they attribue it to harnessing power through meditating and focusing on the areas that need healing. So a couple follow up questions to what your saying here:

Are they faking it?
If not are miracles being done in the name of Jesus (through his power / light) and they just don’t realize this is what it is?
Something else?

Appreciate your thoughts

This one is easy. Those people in the video give off good vibes and they are good people, they are not weird or off or bad. They simply are not recognizing as we think christians should recognize and give credit. I'm 100% sure those people in the video believe in a higher power than themselves and there, there is the credit to Christ. They are submitting to the laws of healing even though they are not doing it in a way that is prescribed or laid out plainly in our church.

If we dive into to blessings we receive and how the priesthood and God work, they are not far off in their thinking it's really just presented differently. Faith to be healed is not in faith to have hands laid upon your head. It's faith that a higher power has the ability to heal, that there are forces beyond our visual sight that can and do heal. If they prescribe to truths how can they be wrong? And that's as simple as that is. Truth is truth.

OK so just so I understand you correctly, you believe they are doing those things by the power of Christ, they just don't realize that is what it is?

Christ is also know by many names/titles. Christ is Good. Christ is Life, Light, Truth.

-Finrock

[MMbelieve]

Many in the video who say they are experiencing healing are not professing that the miracle occurred in name of Jesus, they attribue it to harnessing power through meditating and focusing on the areas that need healing. So a couple follow up questions to what your saying here:

Are they faking it?
If not are miracles being done in the name of Jesus (through his power / light) and they just don’t realize this is what it is?
Something else?

Appreciate your thoughts

This one is easy. Those people in the video give off good vibes and they are good people, they are not weird or off or bad. They simply are not recognizing as we think christians should recognize and give credit. I'm 100% sure those people in the video believe in a higher power than themselves and there, there is the credit to Christ. They are submitting to the laws of healing even though they are not doing it in a way that is prescribed or laid out plainly in our church.

If we dive into to blessings we receive and how the priesthood and God work, they are not far off in their thinking it's really just presented differently. Faith to be healed is not in faith to have hands laid upon your head. It's faith that a higher power has the ability to heal, that there are forces beyond our visual sight that can and do heal. If they prescribe to truths how can they be wrong? And that's as simple as that is. Truth is truth.

OK so just so I understand you correctly, you believe they are doing those things by the power of Christ, they just don't realize that is what it is?

Christ is also know by many names/titles. Christ is Good. Christ is Life, Light, Truth.

-Finrock

Exactly!

[righteousrepublic]

Christ, names of

Names, titles, and concepts of the Lord Jesus in the Old Testament: Seed of the woman, Gen. 3:15; Shiloh, Gen. 49:10; the Prophet, Deut. 18:15–16; Emmanuel, Isa. 7:14; 8:8; see also Matt. 1:23; Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Isa. 9:6; Everlasting Father, 9:6; Prince of Peace, 9:6; Stem of Jesse, 11:1 (see D&C 113:1); Mighty One of Jacob, 60:16; Servant of the Lord, or of Jehovah, 42:1–7; 52:13–15; Zech. 3:8; Branch, Jer. 23:5; the Lord our Righteousness, Jer. 23:6; 33:16; Mal. 4:2; the Messiah, Dan. 9:25; the Messenger of the covenant, Mal. 3:1; Redeemer, Job 19:25; Isa. 59:20; 60:16; Holy One, Ps. 16:10; Holy One of Israel, Isa. 1:4; Blessed of God, Ps. 45:2.

Names, titles, and concepts of Jesus in the Gospels and Acts: The son of David, the son of Abraham, Matt. 1:1; son of David, 9:27; 12:23; 15:22; 20:30–31; 21:9, 15; Mark 10:47–48; 12:35; Luke 18:38–39; 20:41; the son of Mary, Mark 6:3; Joseph’s son, Luke 4:22; John 1:45; 6:42; the carpenter’s son, Matt. 13:55; the carpenter, Mark 6:3; Jesus of Galilee, Matt. 26:69; Jesus of Nazareth, 26:71; Mark 1:24; 10:47; 14:67; 16:6; Luke 4:34; 18:37; 24:19; John 1:45; 18:5, 7; 19:19; Acts 2:22; 3:6; 4:10; 6:14; 10:38; 22:8; 26:9; a Nazarene, Matt. 2:23; the Son of man, Matt. 16:27; Mark 2:28; Luke 12:40; John 3:13–14; Moses 6:57; the beloved Son of God, Matt. 3:17; 17:5; Mark 9:7; Luke 3:22; the Son of the living God, Matt. 16:16; Son of the most high God, Mark 5:7; the Son of the Blessed, 14:61; Son of the Highest, Luke 1:32; God’s holy child Jesus, Acts 4:27, 30; only begotten of the Father, John 1:14, 18; one with the Father, 10:30; the Lord’s Christ, Luke 2:26; the Christ of God, 9:20; the chosen of God, 23:35; the Messias, John 1:41; 4:25; God’s anointed, Acts 4:27; the Lamb of God, John 1:29, 36; a teacher come from God, 3:2; he that cometh in the name of the Lord, Matt. 21:9; Mark 11:9; the King that cometh in the name of the Lord, Luke 19:38; John 12:13; meek and lowly, Matt. 21:5; see Zech. 9:9; also Matt. 12:19; the prophet of Nazareth, Matt. 21:11; a prophet, John 4:19; 9:17; the prophet, 7:40; King of the Jews, Matt. 2:2; 27:11, 37; Mark 15:9, 12, 18, 26; Luke 23:3, 38; John 18:33, 39; 19:3, 14–15, 19, 21; Governor that shall rule Israel, Matt. 2:6; King of Israel, 27:42; Mark 15:32; John 1:49; 12:13; King of Sion, Matt. 21:5; John 12:15; Emmanuel, Matt. 1:23; the consolation of Israel, Luke 2:25; Savior of Israel, Acts 13:23; Savior, Matt. 1:21; Luke 2:11; Acts 5:31; 13:23; the Savior of the world, John 4:42; the Lord, Matt. 28:6; Mark 16:19–20; Luke 2:11; 22:61; 24:3, 34; John 11:2; 20:2, 18, 20, 25; Acts 2:36; 8:24–25, 39; 9:5–6, 10–11, 15, 17, 31, 35, 42; 10:48; 11:21, 23; 13:12, 48–49; 14:3, 23; 15:35; 16:10, 32; 18:8–9, 25; 20:19; 21:20; 22:10, 16; 23:11; the Lord Jesus, Luke 24:3; Acts 7:59; 8:16; 9:29; 11:17, 20; 15:11, 26; 16:31; 19:5, 10, 13, 17; 20:21, 24, 35; 21:13; 28:31; Lord of all, 10:36; Lord of the sabbath, Mark 2:28; Rabbi, John 1:38, 49; 3:2, 26; 6:25; Rabboni, 20:16; the Word, 1:1, 14; the Light, 1:7–8; the bread of life, 6:35, 41, 48; the living bread, 6:51; the light of the world, 8:12; 9:5; 12:46; the door of the sheep, 10:7, 9; the good shepherd, 10:11, 14; the resurrection and the life, 11:25; the way, the truth, and the life, 14:6; the true vine, 15:1; the vine, 15:5; the Holy One and the Just, Acts 3:14; the Just One, 7:52; 22:14; the Prince of Life, 3:15; a prince, 5:31; Judge of quick and dead, 10:42; a righteous man (by the centurion), Luke 23:47; that deceiver (by the Jews), Matt. 27:63; a sinner (by the Jews), John 9:24; a Samaritan (by the Jews), 8:48.

Names, titles, and concepts of Christ in the Epistles: A propitiation through faith, Rom. 3:25; 1 Jn. 2:2; the end of the law for righteousness, Rom. 10:4; the deliverer, 11:26; Lord both of dead and living, 14:9; a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, 15:8; the power of God and the wisdom of God, 1 Cor. 1:24; wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption unto us, 1:30; he sanctifieth the people by his blood, Heb. 13:12; our passover, 1 Cor. 5:7; by whom are all things, and we by him, 8:6; by whom God made the worlds, Heb. 1:2; the spiritual rock, 1 Cor. 10:4; the head of every man, 11:3; see also Eph. 4:15; captain of man’s salvation, Heb. 2:10; propitiation for the sins of the whole world, 1 Jn. 2:2; 4:10; one body, 1 Cor. 12:12; the firstfruits of them that slept, 15:20, 23; the forerunner, Heb. 6:20; the Lord from heaven, 1 Cor. 15:47; not yea and nay, but in him was yea, 2 Cor. 1:19; the image of God, 4:4; the express image of God’s person, Heb. 1:3; the only wise God our Savior, Jude 1:25; who knew no sin, 2 Cor. 5:21; Heb. 4:15; separate from sinners, 7:26; did no sin, 1 Pet. 2:22; blessed for evermore, 2 Cor. 11:31; consecrated for evermore, Heb. 7:28; who gave himself for our sins, Gal. 1:4; suffered for us, 1 Pet. 2:21; bare our sins in his own body, 2:24; 3:18; 4:1; the seed of Abraham, Gal. 3:16; Heb. 2:16; of the seed of David, 2 Tim. 2:8; made of a woman, made under the law, Gal. 4:4; our peace, Eph. 2:14; the chief cornerstone, Eph. 2:20; a living stone, disallowed of men, but chosen of God and precious, 1 Pet. 2:4, 7; an offering and sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savor, Eph. 5:2; foundation of the Church, 1 Cor. 3:11; the head of the Church, Eph. 5:23; the Savior of the body, 5:23; the Savior, Philip. 3:20; our Savior, 1 Tim. 2:3; 2 Tim. 1:10; Titus 2:10, 13; 3:6; Savior of the world, 1 Jn. 4:14; the hope of glory, Col. 1:27; who sitteth on the right hand of God, 3:1; Heb. 1:3; 10:12; 12:2; who is passed into the heavens, 4:14; 8:1; 9:24; 1 Pet. 3:22; our life, Col. 3:4; which delivereth us from the wrath to come, 1 Thes. 1:10; who died and rose again, 4:14; who was raised from the dead, 2 Tim. 2:8; who came into the world to save sinners, 1 Tim. 1:15; who gave himself for us, Titus 2:14; tasted death for every man, Heb. 2:9; the mediator between God and men, 1 Tim. 2:5; appears in the presence of God for us, Heb. 9:24; God manifest in the flesh, 1 Tim. 3:16; the great God, Titus 2:13; the brightness of God’s glory, Heb. 1:3; in whom is salvation, 2 Tim. 2:10; author of eternal salvation, Heb. 5:9; hath obtained eternal redemption for us, 9:12; who shall judge the quick and dead, 2 Tim. 4:1; is ready to judge the quick and the dead, 1 Pet. 4:5; the righteous judge, 2 Tim. 4:8; heir of all things, Heb. 1:2; upholding all things by the word of his power, 1:3; by himself purged our sins, 1:3; put away sin by the sacrifice of himself, 9:26; his blood cleanseth from all sin, 1 Jn. 1:7; better than the angels, Heb. 1:4; made lower than the angels for the suffering of death, 2:7, 9; the first begotten, 1:6; crowned with glory and honour, 2:9; made higher than the heavens, 7:26; a merciful and faithful high priest, 2:17; Apostle and High Priest of our profession, 3:1; 4:14; 10:21; able to succor them that are tempted, 2:18; worthy of more glory than Moses, 3:3; tempted in all points as we are, 4:15; a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec, 5:6; 6:20; hath an unchangeable priesthood, 7:24; learned obedience by the things which he suffered, 5:8; surety of a better testament, 7:22; mediator of a better covenant, 8:6; 12:24; mediator of the new testament, 9:15; able to save to the uttermost, 7:25; ever liveth to make intercession, 7:25; holy, harmless, undefiled, 7:26; a minister of the sanctuary and of the true tabernacle, 8:2; a high priest of good things to come, 9:11; offered himself without spot, 9:14; a lamb without blemish and without spot, 1 Pet. 1:19; shall appear the second time without sin unto salvation, Heb. 9:23; he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified, 10:14; he hath consecrated a new and living way, 10:20; the author and finisher of our faith, 12:2; the same yesterday, today, and forever, 13:8; suffered without the gate, 13:12; the great shepherd of the sheep, 13:20; 1 Pet. 5:4; the shepherd and bishop of souls, 2:25; the Lord of glory, James 2:1; angels, authorities, and powers being made subject to him, 1 Pet. 3:22; left us an example, 2:21; the word of life, 1 Jn. 1:1; sent that we may live through him, 4:9; in him is eternal life, 5:11, 20; an advocate (Greek, Paraclete) with the Father, 2:1; the propitiation for our sins, 2:2; 4:10; he that came by water and blood, 5:6; hath given us understanding that we may know him that is true, 5:20.

Names, titles, and concepts of Christ in the book of Revelation: The faithful witness, Rev. 1:5; 3:14; the first begotten of the dead, 1:5; he that liveth and was dead, 1:18; 2:8; the prince of the kings of the earth, 1:5; Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, 1:8, 11; 21:6; 22:13; which is, and which was, and which is to come, 1:8; 4:8; 11:17; 16:5; the Almighty, 1:8; 4:8; 16:7; the first and the last, 1:17; 2:8; 22:13; he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, 3:7; the Amen, 3:14; the beginning of the creation of God, 3:14; that liveth for ever and ever, 4:9; the Lion of the tribe of Judah, 5:5; the root of David, 5:5; root and offspring of David, 22:16; the Lamb, 5:6, 8, 12–13; 6:16; 7:9, 14, 17; 12:11; 14:1, 4, 10; 15:3; 17:14; 19:7, 9; 21:9, 14, 22, 27; 22:1, 3; King of kings, and Lord of lords, 17:14; 19:16; faithful and true, 19:11; the word of God, 19:13; the bright and morning star, 22:16.

[inho]

Now you are doing what freedomforall did often: posting long lists of scripture references without any explanation.

I see the connection to few of the last posts in the thread, but what do these scriptures have to do with healing? Please expound.

[righteousrepublic]

Now you are doing what freedomforall did often: posting long lists of scripture references without any explanation.

I see the connection to few of the last posts in the thread, but what do these scriptures have to do with healing? Please expound.

The information is self evident. The explanation is: Names of Jesus Christ. Finrock opened the door with names he used for the Savior, I just added to them for people to learn and look up on their own if desired. Sorry for any confusion.
Freedomforall had his ways, I have mine. Any similarity is not a bad thing if it provides truth and good learning. But then again, I don't read long, long posts either. But there is a huge difference between using actual scripture for profit and learning than a lengthy post permeated with one's own opinion(s), unless those opinions are backed by scripture.
As far as explanations, anyone with a desire to see eye to eye with God and a desire to maintain the welfare of Zion could read scripture and gain exactly what scripture says by way of the Holy Ghost. That way there would not be any opinions, only truth and light as the Savior teaches it. Also, people couldn't complain about someone else being the arm of flesh, if what they say and teach is corroborated be scripture in its fullest. At least this should be the goal.

[Durzan]

Now you are doing what freedomforall did often: posting long lists of scripture references without any explanation.

I see the connection to few of the last posts in the thread, but what do these scriptures have to do with healing? Please expound.

The information is self evident. The explanation is: Names of Jesus Christ. Finrock opened the door with names he used for the Savior, I just added to them for people to learn and look up on their own if desired. Sorry for any confusion.
Freedomforall had his ways, I have mine. Any similarity is not a bad thing if it provides truth and good learning. But then again, I don't read long, long posts either. But there is a huge difference between using actual scripture for profit and learning than a lengthy post permeated with one's own opinion(s), unless those opinions are backed by scripture.

You could've just linked to the topical guide, and then cited some of your more favorite ones...

[righteousrepublic]

Now you are doing what freedomforall did often: posting long lists of scripture references without any explanation.

I see the connection to few of the last posts in the thread, but what do these scriptures have to do with healing? Please expound.

The information is self evident. The explanation is: Names of Jesus Christ. Finrock opened the door with names he used for the Savior, I just added to them for people to learn and look up on their own if desired. Sorry for any confusion.
Freedomforall had his ways, I have mine. Any similarity is not a bad thing if it provides truth and good learning. But then again, I don't read long, long posts either. But there is a huge difference between using actual scripture for profit and learning than a lengthy post permeated with one's own opinion(s), unless those opinions are backed by scripture.

You could've just linked to the topical guide, and then cited some of your more favorite ones...

And people could quickly scan over the references and pick out some they like. They may not like my favorite ones, right?

[drtanner]

Now you are doing what freedomforall did often: posting long lists of scripture references without any explanation.

I see the connection to few of the last posts in the thread, but what do these scriptures have to do with healing? Please expound.

The information is self evident. The explanation is: Names of Jesus Christ. Finrock opened the door with names he used for the Savior, I just added to them for people to learn and look up on their own if desired. Sorry for any confusion.
Freedomforall had his ways, I have mine. Any similarity is not a bad thing if it provides truth and good learning. But then again, I don't read long, long posts either. But there is a huge difference between using actual scripture for profit and learning than a lengthy post permeated with one's own opinion(s), unless those opinions are backed by scripture.

You could've just linked to the topical guide, and then cited some of your more favorite ones...

And people could quickly scan over the references and pick out some they like. They may not like my favorite ones, right?

I like the idea of an explanation, but personally I didn't find list of names that bothersome. That may be peculiar I know.

[righteousrepublic]

IMHO, Pertaining to an explanation, would everyone like truth from scripture or a favorable opinion mingled with scripture? Offbeat opinions have no real teaching capabilities, this is why it is imperative that we learn to appeal to the Holy Ghost for sound understanding, coupled with the understandings of others saying and agreeing exactly the same things. God's word is not up to being changed by us humans.