Male and Female Roles

[Dusty52]

At what point in our existence as spirits or intelligences was the decision made that
Males would get the priesthood?
Females would bring children into the world?
Who made that decision? and why was it made?

[Robin Hood]

At what point in our existence as spirits or intelligences was the decision made that
Males would get the priesthood?
Females would bring children into the world?
Who made that decision? and why was it made?

It was me.
I just thought it would be nice to do it that way round for a change.

Seriously though Dusty, do you really think anyone can answer that?

[The Airbender]

I don't understand the process, but I believe that when a spirit is created, a division of a whole takes place such that a male spirit and a female spirit are created together. It is like dividing the light from the darkness. Look at the symbol for yin and yang.

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It is not possible to separate the light from the dark unless you have both together, like gray. Again, I do not know the process, but it appears to me that when intelligences are separated, it is like separating two parts of a whole.

[Dusty52]

At what point in our existence as spirits or intelligences was the decision made that
Males would get the priesthood?
Females would bring children into the world?
Who made that decision? and why was it made?

It was me.
I just thought it would be nice to do it that way round for a change.

Seriously though Dusty, do you really think anyone can answer that?

I just post questions
It never ceases to amaze me about the other users on this site, I like viewing their contributions and to see what other people think

[MMbelieve]

The decision was probably made whenever the first earth was created and it's just been the same ever since.

It's impossible to really imagine how it actually started.

[brianj]

MMBelieve's comment assumes there was a first. Our minds, trapped in a finite existence, have a difficult time with the concept of infinity, the idea that there was no beginning.

For some things we have to accept that that's just how it is. When it comes to sex and roles, that's just how it is. The more interesting question to me is how does one unit of intelligence become organized into a male vs female spirit?

[The Airbender]

The decision was probably made whenever the first earth was created and it's just been the same ever since.

It's impossible to really imagine how it actually started.

With God nothing is impossible.

[MMbelieve]

The decision was probably made whenever the first earth was created and it's just been the same ever since.

It's impossible to really imagine how it actually started.

With God nothing is impossible.

In our condition of the veil we cannot imagine. But again, thanks for your one sentence reply of kindness.

Someday, with Gods help, I hope to be able to fly. That would be so cool.

[MMbelieve]

MMBelieve's comment assumes there was a first. Our minds, trapped in a finite existence, have a difficult time with the concept of infinity, the idea that there was no beginning.

For some things we have to accept that that's just how it is. When it comes to sex and roles, that's just how it is. The more interesting question to me is how does one unit of intelligence become organized into a male vs female spirit?

It's mind boggling either way. I can't comprehend a start and I can't comprehend there never being a start.

[brianj]

I think mind boggling is an understatement. Incomprehensible is probably more accurate. Because of the limits on our moral minds we won't be able to comprehend certain things in this life.

[gardener4life]

The Book of Mormon teaches that if we treat each other equally love will abound and everyone will be enriched and happy and blessed. When inequality and pride and class distinctions abound so also comes falling away and hardening of hearts. We can also avoid enmity, pride, living above our means, and other predatory living. When we live above our means our families are hurt, and so are the people we would have helped if we hadn't lived above our means.

This is why so many people are in need...because the people living above their means are depriving others of being able to live.

This is why if we concentrate on everyone being equal things will be OK.

The great damage created by pornography, economic inequality social classes, wickedness in our society are what separate people from one another, old and young, male and female. With God, we weren't meant to be alone. We are meant to be around family members constantly. This is in the scriptures. It's when we're alone and not near family members that we can be targetted for things like depression, injustice, social caste systems bother us the most then, and also gender inequality attacks us most when alone, or when we don't feel comfort of the spirit and of family.

So we can try to focus on the basics, and trying to notice how many scriptures there are about equality and when things were equal the church prospered and grew.

In God's long term Plan of Salvation, men and women need to learn to live together and fully support one another equally. This eliminates the need for anguish, inequality, and gender inequality to harm you.

[David13]

The Book of Mormon teaches that if we treat each other equally love will abound and everyone will be enriched and happy and blessed. When inequality and pride and class distinctions abound so also comes falling away and hardening of hearts. We can also avoid enmity, pride, living above our means, and other predatory living. When we live above our means our families are hurt, and so are the people we would have helped if we hadn't lived above our means.

This is why so many people are in need...because the people living above their means are depriving others of being able to live.

This is why if we concentrate on everyone being equal things will be OK.

The great damage created by pornography, economic inequality social classes, wickedness in our society are what separate people from one another, old and young, male and female. With God, we weren't meant to be alone. We are meant to be around family members constantly. This is in the scriptures. It's when we're alone and not near family members that we can be targetted for things like depression, injustice, social caste systems bother us the most then, and also gender inequality attacks us most when alone, or when we don't feel comfort of the spirit and of family.

So we can try to focus on the basics, and trying to notice how many scriptures there are about equality and when things were equal the church prospered and grew.

In God's long term Plan of Salvation, men and women need to learn to live together and fully support one another equally. This eliminates the need for anguish, inequality, and gender inequality to harm you.

In another thread they posted about everybody being nuts. In some way, or so.

Reading this, all I can say is ... you're nuts.

You are all 'hung up' on 'equality, man' which is an impossibility.

Most people associate most with their peers. So what you do has a lot to do with who you associate with. We are only equal in a very trivial and initial sense.

After that we are all pursuing our various positions in life.

There's a whole lot more to the whole thing that ... equality. To the exclusion of many many many other factors. Look at the broader picture, don't focus microscope like on one little element.
dc

[The Airbender]

The decision was probably made whenever the first earth was created and it's just been the same ever since.

It's impossible to really imagine how it actually started.

With God nothing is impossible.

In our condition of the veil we cannot imagine. But again, thanks for your one sentence reply of kindness.

Someday, with Gods help, I hope to be able to fly. That would be so cool.

I don't think that is such an outlandish desire.

[Juliet]

Who created battery terminals where one outputs energy and one receives energy? I suppose so it can be used to create energy or perform work. You can't get much done in a circuit when you don't have anywhere for the power source to go.

I think we have the male and female as a way to learn about creation. In fact I believe everything on this earth is here to teach us some spiritual principle that is manifested here in reality.

I believe when we understand the nature of masculine and feminine, that we will be able to have a much better relationship with our physical world and be able to influence it much better and bring to pass what we need and want by faith rather than the sweat of our brow.

In studying Keshe's generator, he has suggested that to create energy you need an inner coil and outer coil of copper, each coated in gans, which is a metal/salt composition. It is the placement of the coil, one inside the other, that creates energy. I wonder also if it is the placement of our dna that makes one male or female. I assume that the female dna is the mirror form of the male.

When our own physical dna replicates, it is separated for a time and copied and then brought back together. You could look at the leading strand of dna as the male, for it dictates what it's partner dna strand manifests. And it is from the partner strand of dna that new dna is made. So, it could be the position of elements that decides if intelligence becomes male or female and not an actual change in composition of dna.

[Red]

Sometimes I think the only reason differences were created was so that adversity could be created. If we were all the same or all had the priesthood, then we wouldn’t have something to argue over or have troubles with, so then we’d never be tested. I feel like men are generally considered “superior” because of their “assigned” roles, but that’s not true. Mortals perceive differences as being “better” or “worse”. God gave us differences, but as mortals we assigned whether they’re good or bad when in actuality, it’s neither. It just is. We are all the same, in spite of our differences. We are equally loved by God.

I don’t like to assign roles. Sure, women are the child bearers, but a man can be as nurturing a parent as a woman can. There really aren’t any roles.

Theoretically, God could have decided to give both genders the priesthood. Or women the priesthood. The point is that mortals are the only faction that perceived it as a decision.

[Red]

I like this post from Aenera. I think it supports a positive vibe in our “roles”.

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[BruceRGilbert]

"Look to the Light and LIVE."
(Kim Rives, N.D.E.)

The Electro-magnetic spectrum gives "light" to the notion of duality. A phase shift is all that is needed to cause the magnetic field to lead the electric one and visa versa. If we take the "Proclamation on the Family" as revelation, it becomes apparent that the male role is to "preside, provide, and protect," whereas, the female role is that of "nurturing." The "electric field" provides direction and the "magnetic" field provides attraction - the basis for the different roles.

It is said that man is the head of the home, only so in that he is the "mind" of the home. The "heart" of the home is the woman. The similitude is further established in the "inner courtyard" of the Tabernacle of Moses wherein there are two veils. The home, like the inner courtyard, is shrouded by an outer veil and an inner veil. The "Holy Place" presides, provides, and protects "the Holy of Holies" wherein is found that which nurtures and contains the "ark of the covenant." In marriage, the woman is the "ark of the covenant" in childbearing. It is, also, certain, that the tasks and responsibilities are shared. If "LIGHT" is, indeed, the building block of all that is, then we, all, have the ability to direct and nurture - some being more adept than others.

In our "Spiritual" creation as intelligence/s we were organized according to our "phase" propensity by Heavenly Parents.

[BruceRGilbert]

The Sepulchre was sealed and dark. There was no "external" light source to produce the effects found on the Shroud of Turin. The source of the light emanated from within the body toward the frontal and dorsal "film plates" of cloth.