Will there be new giants in this era?

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We know that the giants of Noah's era tried to assassinate him. And while many believe this species of human was wiped out by the flood the Bible mentions them existing after the flood too.

And what of the tampering with creation that was taking place in this era? Are we not doing the same thing today? Now here is a disturbing thought. You can find articles dealing with experiments combining DNA of humans and rabbits together. The scientists claim they extract and kill the embryos long before birth to do experiments. However, what spirit is being prepared to come into that entity? Is it human? Rabbit? And do you for one minute believe that no hybrids have been carried to term and survived? Heck, back in Stalin's day he was trying to create human-chimp hybrids. Now we have the technology, as they did in Noah's era, to do it for real.

What do you think of this presentation? I am not certain of all of it but much of what he notes is correct to my understanding.

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Northern Europeans were the giants.

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How about the mound people or the large skulls and bones they said were found in the midwest?

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Interesting question. I believe the first shall be last and the last first is a chiasmatic unfolding of events in the end times that bring us back to God, where the city of Enoch's descent is near the end of that process as it was near the beginning of the world. Giants appearing would fit from a symbolic standpoint.

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SmallFarm wrote: July 3rd, 2018, 12:03 pm Northern Europeans were the giants.
But aren't many direct descendants of Noah?

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Fiannan wrote: July 3rd, 2018, 2:08 pm
SmallFarm wrote: July 3rd, 2018, 12:03 pm Northern Europeans were the giants.
But aren't many direct descendants of Noah?
Modern ones are only a remnant of either line.

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MMbelieve wrote: July 3rd, 2018, 12:06 pm How about the mound people or the large skulls and bones they said were found in the midwest?
According to some sources, The Mound Builders were the Hopewell Native American culture.

And yes they were very tall and big during certain time periods. I think part of that is they prayed for that so that they could endure the wars being fought in that time period. Many people think that the Mound Builders are the people from the Book of Mormon and there seems to be a lot of evidence of such. See the following clips when you have the time. If you really consider it and listen it makes sense that it could be so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHVh3bDYGRE&t=3209s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKEwcWI14P0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT7wCM6BPPU

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So for the giant question, its very possible giants came from genetic tampering in the pre-flood cultures. Some sources claim that this is one of their sins. Also genetic tampering is being done and is warned about in Isaiah.

Right now we have the enviro-pig. The enviropig is tampered genetics with mixing genes from mice, pig, and e-coli. It's all been done already. No doubt other experiments like the person above commented are being done here and in other cultures.

Isaiah 66:17 King James Bible
They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

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Based upon the egocentrism of the era, I would say that some already think that they are.

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CelestialAngel wrote: July 3rd, 2018, 6:54 pm Well I'm 6 foot 5 am I close?
For a woman yes. You are a giant.

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gardener4life wrote: July 3rd, 2018, 3:52 pm So for the giant question, its very possible giants came from genetic tampering in the pre-flood cultures. Some sources claim that this is one of their sins. Also genetic tampering is being done and is warned about in Isaiah.

Right now we have the enviro-pig. The enviropig is tampered genetics with mixing genes from mice, pig, and e-coli. It's all been done already. No doubt other experiments like the person above commented are being done here and in other cultures.

Isaiah 66:17 King James Bible
They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
How do you think they would have done genetic tampering back in Noah's day? I just watched a you tube video where he felt that they created giants and Dinosaurs in that time. I think it says somewhere that some of the animals were evil.

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OCDMOM wrote: July 4th, 2018, 8:30 pm
gardener4life wrote: July 3rd, 2018, 3:52 pm So for the giant question, its very possible giants came from genetic tampering in the pre-flood cultures. Some sources claim that this is one of their sins. Also genetic tampering is being done and is warned about in Isaiah.

Right now we have the enviro-pig. The enviropig is tampered genetics with mixing genes from mice, pig, and e-coli. It's all been done already. No doubt other experiments like the person above commented are being done here and in other cultures.

Isaiah 66:17 King James Bible
They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
How do you think they would have done genetic tampering back in Noah's day? I just watched a you tube video where he felt that they created giants and Dinosaurs in that time. I think it says somewhere that some of the animals were evil.
The same way we are doing it today.

Dinosaurs died out millions of years before Noah. I doubt the giants trying to assassinate him were Tyrannosaurs.

I was intrigued by this topic when I heard someone translate the term "pure" from Hebrew and it was not so much in reference to Noah's morality but to a more genetic context. Were there only a few people alive in Noah's day who were not altered? How much animal or synthetic DNA put into a developing human embryo before it ceases to be a human in "the image of God?" If the creation were polluted by such tampering then it puts the need for God to kill hundreds of millions of people as well as the animals inhabiting the region they lived in a more understandable context.

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Fiannan wrote: July 5th, 2018, 1:24 am
OCDMOM wrote: July 4th, 2018, 8:30 pm
gardener4life wrote: July 3rd, 2018, 3:52 pm So for the giant question, its very possible giants came from genetic tampering in the pre-flood cultures. Some sources claim that this is one of their sins. Also genetic tampering is being done and is warned about in Isaiah.

Right now we have the enviro-pig. The enviropig is tampered genetics with mixing genes from mice, pig, and e-coli. It's all been done already. No doubt other experiments like the person above commented are being done here and in other cultures.

Isaiah 66:17 King James Bible
They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
How do you think they would have done genetic tampering back in Noah's day? I just watched a you tube video where he felt that they created giants and Dinosaurs in that time. I think it says somewhere that some of the animals were evil.
The same way we are doing it today.

Dinosaurs died out millions of years before Noah. I doubt the giants trying to assassinate him were Tyrannosaurs.

I was intrigued by this topic when I heard someone translate the term "pure" from Hebrew and it was not so much in reference to Noah's morality but to a more genetic context. Were there only a few people alive in Noah's day who were not altered? How much animal or synthetic DNA put into a developing human embryo before it ceases to be a human in "the image of God?" If the creation were polluted by such tampering then it puts the need for God to kill hundreds of millions of people as well as the animals inhabiting the region they lived in a more understandable context.
BUT some people think that Dinosaurs are not that old. The world is not that old and the Grand Canyon could have been formed during the flood. I don't know.

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There was not a race of giants in the past. The use of the word giant in the OT was symbilic in nature.

There will not be a face of giants in the future.

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OCDMOM wrote: July 5th, 2018, 4:51 pm
Fiannan wrote: July 5th, 2018, 1:24 am
OCDMOM wrote: July 4th, 2018, 8:30 pm
gardener4life wrote: July 3rd, 2018, 3:52 pm So for the giant question, its very possible giants came from genetic tampering in the pre-flood cultures. Some sources claim that this is one of their sins. Also genetic tampering is being done and is warned about in Isaiah.

Right now we have the enviro-pig. The enviropig is tampered genetics with mixing genes from mice, pig, and e-coli. It's all been done already. No doubt other experiments like the person above commented are being done here and in other cultures.

Isaiah 66:17 King James Bible
They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
How do you think they would have done genetic tampering back in Noah's day? I just watched a you tube video where he felt that they created giants and Dinosaurs in that time. I think it says somewhere that some of the animals were evil.
The same way we are doing it today.

Dinosaurs died out millions of years before Noah. I doubt the giants trying to assassinate him were Tyrannosaurs.

I was intrigued by this topic when I heard someone translate the term "pure" from Hebrew and it was not so much in reference to Noah's morality but to a more genetic context. Were there only a few people alive in Noah's day who were not altered? How much animal or synthetic DNA put into a developing human embryo before it ceases to be a human in "the image of God?" If the creation were polluted by such tampering then it puts the need for God to kill hundreds of millions of people as well as the animals inhabiting the region they lived in a more understandable context.
BUT some people think that Dinosaurs are not that old. The world is not that old and the Grand Canyon could have been formed during the flood. I don't know.
The earth is 4 billion yrs old and the dinosaurs are MANY millions of years old just as the scientists say. The relgious ideas that the earth is 6 days or 6K yrs old is what BRM would call “old sectarian notions”. Its good that these ideas are slowing being purged from the church.

The fact that the earth is that old in no way casts doubt on the gospel.

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The giants are the result of demonality. Next question.

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DesertWonderer2 wrote: July 5th, 2018, 7:06 pm
OCDMOM wrote: July 5th, 2018, 4:51 pm
Fiannan wrote: July 5th, 2018, 1:24 am
OCDMOM wrote: July 4th, 2018, 8:30 pm
How do you think they would have done genetic tampering back in Noah's day? I just watched a you tube video where he felt that they created giants and Dinosaurs in that time. I think it says somewhere that some of the animals were evil.
The same way we are doing it today.

Dinosaurs died out millions of years before Noah. I doubt the giants trying to assassinate him were Tyrannosaurs.

I was intrigued by this topic when I heard someone translate the term "pure" from Hebrew and it was not so much in reference to Noah's morality but to a more genetic context. Were there only a few people alive in Noah's day who were not altered? How much animal or synthetic DNA put into a developing human embryo before it ceases to be a human in "the image of God?" If the creation were polluted by such tampering then it puts the need for God to kill hundreds of millions of people as well as the animals inhabiting the region they lived in a more understandable context.
BUT some people think that Dinosaurs are not that old. The world is not that old and the Grand Canyon could have been formed during the flood. I don't know.
The earth is 4 billion yrs old and the dinosaurs are MANY millions of years old just as the scientists say. The relgious ideas that the earth is 6 days or 6K yrs old is what BRM would call “old sectarian notions”. Its good that these ideas are slowing being purged from the church.

The fact that the earth is that old in no way casts doubt on the gospel.
Wrong...The materials used to make the Earth come from different planets, that is where the confusion comes(IMO).

And how long do believe man has been walking the Earth??????

Modern scientists pay homage to the Prince of the world. Don't believe Babylonians.

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CelestialAngel wrote: July 5th, 2018, 8:43 pm Shaquille O'Neal is 7 foot 1 and over 300 pounds. Where do you draw the line on giants because there are modern day giants and they are basketball players. Back in Noah's day I bet people were normally shorter than average today and NBA players back then would be the ones described as giants.
Goliath was over 9 feet tall.

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DesertWonderer2 wrote: July 5th, 2018, 7:06 pm
OCDMOM wrote: July 5th, 2018, 4:51 pm
Fiannan wrote: July 5th, 2018, 1:24 am
OCDMOM wrote: July 4th, 2018, 8:30 pm
How do you think they would have done genetic tampering back in Noah's day? I just watched a you tube video where he felt that they created giants and Dinosaurs in that time. I think it says somewhere that some of the animals were evil.
The same way we are doing it today.

Dinosaurs died out millions of years before Noah. I doubt the giants trying to assassinate him were Tyrannosaurs.

I was intrigued by this topic when I heard someone translate the term "pure" from Hebrew and it was not so much in reference to Noah's morality but to a more genetic context. Were there only a few people alive in Noah's day who were not altered? How much animal or synthetic DNA put into a developing human embryo before it ceases to be a human in "the image of God?" If the creation were polluted by such tampering then it puts the need for God to kill hundreds of millions of people as well as the animals inhabiting the region they lived in a more understandable context.
BUT some people think that Dinosaurs are not that old. The world is not that old and the Grand Canyon could have been formed during the flood. I don't know.
The earth is 4 billion yrs old and the dinosaurs are MANY millions of years old just as the scientists say. The relgious ideas that the earth is 6 days or 6K yrs old is what BRM would call “old sectarian notions”. Its good that these ideas are slowing being purged from the church.

The fact that the earth is that old in no way casts doubt on the gospel.
Well... it takes 150 million years for our solar system to orbit once around the galaxy... Could not six orbits equal six days of creation?

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If reptiles were to live as long as Adam did, they would grow the size of dinosaurs. You see this in Turtles and some form of lizards, fish, etc.

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Alaris wrote: July 6th, 2018, 10:11 am
CelestialAngel wrote: July 5th, 2018, 8:43 pm Shaquille O'Neal is 7 foot 1 and over 300 pounds. Where do you draw the line on giants because there are modern day giants and they are basketball players. Back in Noah's day I bet people were normally shorter than average today and NBA players back then would be the ones described as giants.
Goliath was over 9 feet tall.
Yes. However, I have heard in Church before that Adam and Eve were far taller than people today, taller than that. Size is determined by those making the categorization. If everyone was 9ft tall then that would not be seen as tall.

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DesertWonderer2 wrote: July 5th, 2018, 7:02 pm There was not a race of giants in the past. The use of the word giant in the OT was symbilic in nature.

There will not be a face of giants in the future.
And yet Church publications state that giants were out to kill Noah.

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Fiannan wrote: July 7th, 2018, 9:42 am However, I have heard in Church before that Adam and Eve were far taller than people today, taller than that.
I have never heard that before. I wonder what that is based on.

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inho wrote: July 7th, 2018, 3:07 pm
Fiannan wrote: July 7th, 2018, 9:42 am However, I have heard in Church before that Adam and Eve were far taller than people today, taller than that.
I have never heard that before. I wonder what that is based on.
Not sure. Seen some Protestant ministers dealing with the era before the flood and saying that Noah was about 15 feet tall. The Koran states that Adam was 90 feet tall while he was in the Garden of Eden.

Since Adam and Eve were genetically perfect and made in the image of God how tall is God in latter-day visions?

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Fiannan wrote: July 7th, 2018, 9:42 am
Alaris wrote: July 6th, 2018, 10:11 am
CelestialAngel wrote: July 5th, 2018, 8:43 pm Shaquille O'Neal is 7 foot 1 and over 300 pounds. Where do you draw the line on giants because there are modern day giants and they are basketball players. Back in Noah's day I bet people were normally shorter than average today and NBA players back then would be the ones described as giants.
Goliath was over 9 feet tall.
Yes. However, I have heard in Church before that Adam and Eve were far taller than people today, taller than that. Size is determined by those making the categorization. If everyone was 9ft tall then that would not be seen as tall.
No, not true. Jesus was not only the perfect man,he had the perfect form of a man. He was the prototype of man in all ways. Adam,Enoch,Noah were not three feet taller than Jesus Christ or Moroni, Peter,John, Nephi and ourselves.

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