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Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 11:45 am
by TrueIntent
So, I believe in tokens and signs. This question is directed at those who have “knowledge” not speculation. I just came across this article as well as pondering the story of Lot.
Please read this article? It’s about sex with Angels and spirits based on a mans post.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/aaronleitc ... irits/amp/
The men banging on lots door want to “know” the spirits.
Now for the counterfeit....is Satan (and his followers) delivering tokens and signs by sex with spirits?
Which is why Lot (receiving messengers prepares a meal without leavin). And they prepare the counterfeit “to know” them.
Does anyone have “knowledge” that this is how the counterfeit is working? BecAuse I think it is. I just had an epiphany.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 12:02 pm
by TrueIntent
I want to add, Jesus Christ doesnt condemn an adulterer...he says go and sin no more. Soooo, this is not meant to be a bashing conversation. I’m just looking for knowledge.....I saw a weird post a while back that made me think people were receiving tokens like this. Then I just decided to google search it. And now after reading Lot again....well... you get the drift.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 12:51 pm
by Juliet
We have free will both as spirits and physical beings. Celestial Marriage is when you have an eternal sexual relationship with your other spiritual half. We are told we are made in God's image, male and female. So every male has a female counterpart to mirror his dna. Every Adam has an Eve. That is my experience. And there is a spiritual connection between the two halves. So, the man in the blog may have had his twin flame Eve meet up with him. I don't think it was any spirit. Of course you can have sexual relationship with any spirit but it wouldn't be a life giving situation it would be parasitic and draining. That is why masterbation is bad because you invite parasitic spiritual sexual experiences.
So, unless the interaction is blessed with the Holy Spirit of promise then it is best to not commit adultery spiritually. Yes the occult works with spiritual soul ties created with sex to bind you to other spirits. These have to be cut and healed.
On a physcial level, women have shown to have a man's dna in her brain if she has had sex with him. I think that is symbolic of the soul ties that is created when a woman has sex with a man. It is very important to respect the chastity of women.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 1:24 pm
by TrueIntent
Juliet wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 12:51 pm
We have free will both as spirits and physical beings. Celestial Marriage is when you have an eternal sexual relationship with your other spiritual half. We are told we are made in God's image, male and female. So every male has a female counterpart to mirror his dna. Every Adam has an Eve. That is my experience. And there is a spiritual connection between the two halves. So, the man in the blog may have had his twin flame Eve meet up with him. I don't think it was any spirit. Of course you can have sexual relationship with any spirit but it wouldn't be a life giving situation it would be parasitic and draining. That is why masterbation is bad because you invite parasitic spiritual sexual experiences.
So, unless the interaction is blessed with the Holy Spirit of promise then it is best to not commit adultery spiritually. Yes the occult works with spiritual soul ties created with sex to bind you to other spirits. These have to be cut and healed.
On a physcial level, women have shown to have a man's dna in her brain if she has had sex with him. I think that is symbolic of the soul ties that is created when a woman has sex with a man. It is very important to respect the chastity of women.
So are you saying it is appropriate to interact sexually with spirits that come to you? I’m just trying to be direct about my questions....in your opinion, the Holy Spirit off promise seals a relationship between say you, and a spirit angel/man? Assuming you engage with it? And what happens if you don’t engage with it, but instead offer bread without leaven? Do you understand what I’m sayinf.
Here’s some of my Concerns, shouldn’t he have been helping her “receive” this spirit instead of choosing continual fornication with it if it was her spirit self. And should t we only be receiving Christ’s messengers and preparing a “meal” for them (offering). This is the pattern in scripture. Isn’t Christ the one and his messengers who lead the wAy to all this. I just want to be clear on how the path is laid, as I understand it in scripture. It would require repentance’s not seeking someone to fufill you physically through the spirit world. If my husband was having sex with a spirit women I would feel cheated on, I don’t care how many times he said it wAs me, I would say prove it. Now, if that mans wife “receives” the spirit and then they consummate the marriage. That sounds more like a marriage. That actually sounds like a marriage between to exalted resurrected beings. (I’m just laying out my thoughts). Not being condemning.
I mean the guy says he was unhappy with his wife. I don’t dispute there is an exalted spirit other half. But what’s the difference between me sitting around fantasizing about a guy in a book or movie, and a spirit shows up claiming to be my husband? that doesn’t possess the body of my husband. What separates spiritual adultery from “a virgin” who conceived a son. There is a difference. and I’m confident that’s what the story of Lot is teaching. I’m just laying out thoughts. Thanks for your thoughts. I’m not out to condemn anyone. I realize this is a weird topic.
Also at the center of the tree of life is a virgin with her son. I just want to have my thoughts in line with truth.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 1:34 pm
by Juliet
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 1:24 pm
Juliet wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 12:51 pm
We have free will both as spirits and physical beings. Celestial Marriage is when you have an eternal sexual relationship with your other spiritual half. We are told we are made in God's image, male and female. So every male has a female counterpart to mirror his dna. Every Adam has an Eve. That is my experience. And there is a spiritual connection between the two halves. So, the man in the blog may have had his twin flame Eve meet up with him. I don't think it was any spirit. Of course you can have sexual relationship with any spirit but it wouldn't be a life giving situation it would be parasitic and draining. That is why masterbation is bad because you invite parasitic spiritual sexual experiences.
So, unless the interaction is blessed with the Holy Spirit of promise then it is best to not commit adultery spiritually. Yes the occult works with spiritual soul ties created with sex to bind you to other spirits. These have to be cut and healed.
On a physcial level, women have shown to have a man's dna in her brain if she has had sex with him. I think that is symbolic of the soul ties that is created when a woman has sex with a man. It is very important to respect the chastity of women.
So are you saying it is appropriate to interact sexually with spirits that come to you? I’m just trying to be direct about my questions....in your opinion, the Holy Spirit off promise seals a relationship between say you, and a spirit angel/man? Assuming you engage with it? And what happens if you don’t engage with it, but instead offer bread without leaven? Do you understand what I’m sayinf.
Here’s some of my Concerns, shouldn’t he have been helping her “receive” this spirit instead of choosing continual fornication with it if it was her spirit self. And should t we only be receiving Christ’s messengers and preparing a “meal” for them (offering). This is the pattern in scripture. Isn’t Christ the one and his messengers who lead the wAy to all this. I just want to be clear on how the path is laid, as I understand it in scripture. It would require repentance’s not seeking someone to fufill you physically through the spirit world. If my husband was having sex with a spirit women I would feel cheated on, I don’t care how many times he said it wAs me, I would say prove it. Now, if that mans wife “receives” the spirit and then they consummate the marriage. That sounds more like a marriage. That actually sounds like a marriage between to exalted resurrected beings. (I’m just laying out my thoughts). Not being condemning.
I mean the guy says he was unhappy with his wife. I don’t dispute there is an exalted spirit other half. But what’s the difference between me sitting around fantasizing about a guy in a book or movie, and a spirit shows up claiming to be my husband? that doesn’t possess the body of my husband. What separates spiritual adultery from “a virgin” who conceived a son. There is a difference. and I’m confident that’s what the story of Lot is teaching. I’m just laying out thoughts. Thanks for your thoughts. I’m not out to condemn anyone. I realize this is a weird topic.
Also at the center of the tree of life is a virgin with her son. I just want to have my thoughts in line with truth.
You are right there is a difference. I just couldn't lay out the difference with words very well. It is an individual responsibility to make sure your actions are pure and righteous. The laws we have are for our physical relationships and so spiritual relationships should mirror those laws.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 2:30 pm
by davedan
Satan's counterfeit signs have to do with how to take life (Hugh Nibley): cut throat, heart, bowel etc. These signs were first taught to Cain by Satan and have been passed down through the ages. This is how Cain to murder Abel by Satan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCVAOqbf3p4
True signs have to do with service in the priesthood: obedience, service, blessing, consecration.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 2:34 pm
by Rand
Do be extremely cautious in every aspect of this inquiry.
Read the example shared in the book Return from Tomorrow, of the disembodied spirits seeking physical gratification. The example in the post you shared is not one to seek to emulate.
You walk a troublesome path in this area of seeking, just be very cautious.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 2:47 pm
by abijah
davedan wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 2:30 pm
Satan's counterfeit signs have to do with how to take life (Hugh Nibley): cut throat, heart, bowel etc. These signs were first taught to Cain by Satan and have been passed down through the ages. This is how Cain to murder Abel by Satan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCVAOqbf3p4
True signs have to do with service in the priesthood: obedience, service, blessing, consecration.
yes. God’s source of power comes through the
begetting and making of life. satan, who only ever copies, hijacks and perverts the truth of God, derives the power for his false priesthoods from the
taking of life. hence you have the secret, & legacy of cain.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 2:52 pm
by TrueIntent
Rand wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 2:34 pm
Do be extremely cautious in every aspect of this inquiry.
Read the example shared in the book Return from Tomorrow, of the disembodied spirits seeking physical gratification. The example in the post you shared is not one to seek to emulate.
You walk a troublesome path in this area of seeking, just be very cautious.
Rand. Thanks. Ill look into it. To be clear. I’m not seeking anything. Just information. I’m not sexually engaging with any spirits or whatever....however, we have a particular ceremony that tells us to engage with messengers. Just saying. I’m a sifter if information. I’m happily married to my one and only. But people are engaging with false messengers, and I aim to spell out the difference. And the Bible clearly spells out something that has to do with barren women who conceive sons of God. Which is a true pattern and clearly there is a counterfeit. Also, our temple ceremony used to contain some of the same throat/Cain symbols, as well as masonry. Here’s the deal. A symbol is a symbol. It’s the pattern and correct interpretation that matters. There is an order. Cain’s line, was the first to take many wives. My point is....I’m looking for information. The more people share, good or bad, gives clarity. So I’m open to anyone who wants to share “knowledge”. I’m not here to judge, just looking to compare what people are willing to share with scripture.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 3:01 pm
by TrueIntent
davedan wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 2:30 pm
Satan's counterfeit signs have to do with how to take life (Hugh Nibley): cut throat, heart, bowel etc. These signs were first taught to Cain by Satan and have been passed down through the ages. This is how Cain to murder Abel by Satan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCVAOqbf3p4
True signs have to do with service in the priesthood: obedience, service, blessing, consecration.
On a side note, bowls have to do with posterity. Throat and heart symbolically, all related to truth and intention. So when someone’s bowls gush out. That symbolically means something. A woman taken in adultery, there was a ritual in Judaism called the “ordeal of bitter waters”. It’s in Leviticus. She had to drink “bitter” water, and if she was guilty of adultery, the curse was that her bowls would gush out and burst and that her thigh would rot. Compare to Abraham swearing by the thigh.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 3:10 pm
by Rand
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:01 pm
davedan wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 2:30 pm
Satan's counterfeit signs have to do with how to take life (Hugh Nibley): cut throat, heart, bowel etc. These signs were first taught to Cain by Satan and have been passed down through the ages. This is how Cain to murder Abel by Satan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCVAOqbf3p4
True signs have to do with service in the priesthood: obedience, service, blessing, consecration.
On a side note, bowls have to do with posterity. Throat and heart symbolically, all related to truth and intention. So when someone’s bowls gush out. That symbolically means something. A woman taken in adultery, there was a ritual in Judaism called the “ordeal of bitter waters”. It’s in Leviticus. She had to drink “bitter” water, and if she was guilty of adultery, the curse was that her bowls would gush out and burst and that her thigh would rot. Compare to Abraham swearing by the thigh.
Are you sure it isn't loins that have to do with posterity instead of bowels? This is why this is such a precarious venture. Waters has to do with peoples, usually masses of peoples.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 21st, 2018, 3:46 pm
by TrueIntent
Rand wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:10 pm
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:01 pm
davedan wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 2:30 pm
Satan's counterfeit signs have to do with how to take life (Hugh Nibley): cut throat, heart, bowel etc. These signs were first taught to Cain by Satan and have been passed down through the ages. This is how Cain to murder Abel by Satan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCVAOqbf3p4
True signs have to do with service in the priesthood: obedience, service, blessing, consecration.
On a side note, bowls have to do with posterity. Throat and heart symbolically, all related to truth and intention. So when someone’s bowls gush out. That symbolically means something. A woman taken in adultery, there was a ritual in Judaism called the “ordeal of bitter waters”. It’s in Leviticus. She had to drink “bitter” water, and if she was guilty of adultery, the curse was that her bowls would gush out and burst and that her thigh would rot. Compare to Abraham swearing by the thigh.
Are you sure it isn't loins that have to do with posterity instead of bowels? This is why this is such a precarious venture. Waters has to do with peoples, usually masses of peoples.
So I’m speaking from memory. But the ordeal of bitter waters is what I am referring to, and it may say bowls but should be translated about the womb. For example, I think it’s Ruth and boaz, she puts her head at his feet. as well as that woman in the Old Testament, her name starts with a J. She hammers a nail in the side of a guy’s temple. The translation says feet but it’s referring to loins bowls or whatever. They are sex positions if you read what’s going on. It’s a dual meaning. You’ll have to look at text translations. I’m typing on my phone in the car. I don’t have good service. But. It’s all related. I might be right about bowls vs loins but it’s All, in the ritual, talking about sex or the womb These are read between the lines stuff just like the story of Lot. There’s hidden messages of these women. It’s not about the sex, it’s about the interpretation. Loin is found in our own ordinance. I might be confusing Judas with bowels but I might not be. I just don’t have good service to look it up. But basically, feet doesn’t mean feet, thigh doesn’t mean thigh, and bowel doesn’t mean bowel. It means something more like “loins” and womb. There are a few commentary’s somewhere that talk about this. It’s all about separating counterfeit and gods version. How does a woman who hammers a nail in a guy’s head be called “chosen”. The mysteries are in the details of the story.
Connect scriptures also about “opening the matrix”. The male opens the matrix which is translated as womb. I think this is the old and New Testament.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 7:24 am
by Robin Hood
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 11:45 am
So, I believe in tokens and signs. This question is directed at those who have “knowledge” not speculation. I just came across this article as well as pondering the story of Lot.
Please read this article? It’s about sex with Angels and spirits based on a mans post.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/aaronleitc ... irits/amp/
The men banging on lots door want to “know” the spirits.
Now for the counterfeit....is Satan (and his followers) delivering tokens and signs by sex with spirits?
Which is why Lot (receiving messengers prepares a meal without leavin). And they prepare the counterfeit “to know” them.
Does anyone have “knowledge” that this is how the counterfeit is working? BecAuse I think it is. I just had an epiphany.
I read the article you linked to.
Sorry, but it's a pile of the brown stuff.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 9:49 am
by The Airbender
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:46 pm
Rand wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:10 pm
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:01 pm
davedan wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 2:30 pm
Satan's counterfeit signs have to do with how to take life (Hugh Nibley): cut throat, heart, bowel etc. These signs were first taught to Cain by Satan and have been passed down through the ages. This is how Cain to murder Abel by Satan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCVAOqbf3p4
True signs have to do with service in the priesthood: obedience, service, blessing, consecration.
On a side note, bowls have to do with posterity. Throat and heart symbolically, all related to truth and intention. So when someone’s bowls gush out. That symbolically means something. A woman taken in adultery, there was a ritual in Judaism called the “ordeal of bitter waters”. It’s in Leviticus. She had to drink “bitter” water, and if she was guilty of adultery, the curse was that her bowls would gush out and burst and that her thigh would rot. Compare to Abraham swearing by the thigh.
Are you sure it isn't loins that have to do with posterity instead of bowels? This is why this is such a precarious venture. Waters has to do with peoples, usually masses of peoples.
So I’m speaking from memory. But the ordeal of bitter waters is what I am referring to, and it may say bowls but should be translated about the womb. For example, I think it’s Ruth and boaz, she puts her head at his feet. as well as that woman in the Old Testament, her name starts with a J. She hammers a nail in the side of a guy’s temple. The translation says feet but it’s referring to loins bowls or whatever. They are sex positions if you read what’s going on. It’s a dual meaning. You’ll have to look at text translations. I’m typing on my phone in the car. I don’t have good service. But. It’s all related. I might be right about bowls vs loins but it’s All, in the ritual, talking about sex or the womb These are read between the lines stuff just like the story of Lot. There’s hidden messages of these women. It’s not about the sex, it’s about the interpretation. Loin is found in our own ordinance. I might be confusing Judas with bowels but I might not be. I just don’t have good service to look it up. But basically, feet doesn’t mean feet, thigh doesn’t mean thigh, and bowel doesn’t mean bowel. It means something more like “loins” and womb. There are a few commentary’s somewhere that talk about this. It’s all about separating counterfeit and gods version. How does a woman who hammers a nail in a guy’s head be called “chosen”. The mysteries are in the details of the story.
Connect scriptures also about “opening the matrix”. The male opens the matrix which is translated as womb. I think this is the old and New Testament.
If you are suggesting that Ruth was "giving" Boaz a sample of what she had to offer her if he married her, then you are reading things in between the lines that are not there.
I believe there are many things that are given to us in parables sort of like the Stork bringing babies because we can't handle the real truth, such as the Serpent Seed. But I think we also can go off in the other direction too far. I think Lot was not having sexual relations with angels.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 6:16 pm
by TrueIntent
Robin Hood wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 7:24 am
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 11:45 am
So, I believe in tokens and signs. This question is directed at those who have “knowledge” not speculation. I just came across this article as well as pondering the story of Lot.
Please read this article? It’s about sex with Angels and spirits based on a mans post.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/aaronleitc ... irits/amp/
The men banging on lots door want to “know” the spirits.
Now for the counterfeit....is Satan (and his followers) delivering tokens and signs by sex with spirits?
Which is why Lot (receiving messengers prepares a meal without leavin). And they prepare the counterfeit “to know” them.
Does anyone have “knowledge” that this is how the counterfeit is working? BecAuse I think it is. I just had an epiphany.
I read the article you linked to.
Sorry, but it's a pile of the brown stuff.
What specifically is a pile of brown stuff? I’m not vague, direct questions require direct answers so we don’t mislead anyone.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 6:32 pm
by TrueIntent
The Airbender wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 9:49 am
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:46 pm
Rand wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:10 pm
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:01 pm
On a side note, bowls have to do with posterity. Throat and heart symbolically, all related to truth and intention. So when someone’s bowls gush out. That symbolically means something. A woman taken in adultery, there was a ritual in Judaism called the “ordeal of bitter waters”. It’s in Leviticus. She had to drink “bitter” water, and if she was guilty of adultery, the curse was that her bowls would gush out and burst and that her thigh would rot. Compare to Abraham swearing by the thigh.
Are you sure it isn't loins that have to do with posterity instead of bowels? This is why this is such a precarious venture. Waters has to do with peoples, usually masses of peoples.
So I’m speaking from memory. But the ordeal of bitter waters is what I am referring to, and it may say bowls but should be translated about the womb. For example, I think it’s Ruth and boaz, she puts her head at his feet. as well as that woman in the Old Testament, her name starts with a J. She hammers a nail in the side of a guy’s temple. The translation says feet but it’s referring to loins bowls or whatever. They are sex positions if you read what’s going on. It’s a dual meaning. You’ll have to look at text translations. I’m typing on my phone in the car. I don’t have good service. But. It’s all related. I might be right about bowls vs loins but it’s All, in the ritual, talking about sex or the womb These are read between the lines stuff just like the story of Lot. There’s hidden messages of these women. It’s not about the sex, it’s about the interpretation. Loin is found in our own ordinance. I might be confusing Judas with bowels but I might not be. I just don’t have good service to look it up. But basically, feet doesn’t mean feet, thigh doesn’t mean thigh, and bowel doesn’t mean bowel. It means something more like “loins” and womb. There are a few commentary’s somewhere that talk about this. It’s all about separating counterfeit and gods version. How does a woman who hammers a nail in a guy’s head be called “chosen”. The mysteries are in the details of the story.
Connect scriptures also about “opening the matrix”. The male opens the matrix which is translated as womb. I think this is the old and New Testament.
If you are suggesting that Ruth was "giving" Boaz a sample of what she had to offer her if he married her, then you are reading things in between the lines that are not there.
I believe there are many things that are given to us in parables sort of like the Stork bringing babies because we can't handle the real truth, such as the Serpent Seed. But I think we also can go off in the other direction too far. I think Lot was not having sexual relations with angels.
So just to clarify. I don’t believe Ruth was giving Boaz that either. Just like Sampson didn’t lose his gift because his hair got cut by a woman and a woman with her hair loose wasn’t a sinner. It’s the path of knowing good from evil. Like I said it’s all about posterity and the seed of God and nothing to do with adultery and yet sex has to do with both, adultery and seed, and yet understanding marriage and this relationship is the key. It’s knowing which way to read a symbol in a really complicated story. But the first step is seeing the patterns and the symbols.
I didn’t say Lot had sex with angels but clearly from the article above people want to “know” angels, and so we can apply that literally as well as figuriteyly. That’s part of the point of my post. and so whether or not one realizes what they may or may not be doing would be reflective on how in tune one is with their gift to “see”, “hear” etc. acting on a sin or spiritual prompting is based on how well they know the “word”. It’s the symbol of the bronzed, raised serpent on the staff( the staff is the iron rod or word), that is tried by fire. That’s the key.
Btw the passage on lot says his daughters had sex with him and that the people wanted to have sex with the Angels.
You and I agree in intention I just don’t think you are understanding my post or my words. It’s hard for me to be clear sometimes becAuse of dual meaning found.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 6:57 pm
by TrueIntent
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 6:32 pm
The Airbender wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 9:49 am
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:46 pm
Rand wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:10 pm
Are you sure it isn't loins that have to do with posterity instead of bowels? This is why this is such a precarious venture. Waters has to do with peoples, usually masses of peoples.
So I’m speaking from memory. But the ordeal of bitter waters is what I am referring to, and it may say bowls but should be translated about the womb. For example, I think it’s Ruth and boaz, she puts her head at his feet. as well as that woman in the Old Testament, her name starts with a J. She hammers a nail in the side of a guy’s temple. The translation says feet but it’s referring to loins bowls or whatever. They are sex positions if you read what’s going on. It’s a dual meaning. You’ll have to look at text translations. I’m typing on my phone in the car. I don’t have good service. But. It’s all related. I might be right about bowls vs loins but it’s All, in the ritual, talking about sex or the womb These are read between the lines stuff just like the story of Lot. There’s hidden messages of these women. It’s not about the sex, it’s about the interpretation. Loin is found in our own ordinance. I might be confusing Judas with bowels but I might not be. I just don’t have good service to look it up. But basically, feet doesn’t mean feet, thigh doesn’t mean thigh, and bowel doesn’t mean bowel. It means something more like “loins” and womb. There are a few commentary’s somewhere that talk about this. It’s all about separating counterfeit and gods version. How does a woman who hammers a nail in a guy’s head be called “chosen”. The mysteries are in the details of the story.
Connect scriptures also about “opening the matrix”. The male opens the matrix which is translated as womb. I think this is the old and New Testament.
If you are suggesting that Ruth was "giving" Boaz a sample of what she had to offer her if he married her, then you are reading things in between the lines that are not there.
I believe there are many things that are given to us in parables sort of like the Stork bringing babies because we can't handle the real truth, such as the Serpent Seed. But I think we also can go off in the other direction too far. I think Lot was not having sexual relations with angels.
So just to clarify. I don’t believe Ruth was giving Boaz that either. Just like Sampson didn’t lose his gift because his hair got cut by a woman and a woman with her hair loose wasn’t a sinner. It’s the path of knowing good from evil. Like I said it’s all about posterity and the seed of God and nothing to do with adultery and yet sex has to do with both, adultery and seed, and yet understanding marriage and this relationship is the key. It’s knowing which way to read a symbol in a really complicated story. But the first step is seeing the patterns and the symbols.
I didn’t say Lot had sex with angels but clearly from the article above people want to “know” angels, and so we can apply that literally as well as figuriteyly. That’s part of the point of my post. and so whether or not one realizes what they may or may not be doing would be reflective on how in tune one is with their gift to “see”, “hear” etc. acting on a sin or spiritual prompting is based on how well they know the “word”. It’s the symbol of the bronzed, raised serpent on the staff( the staff is the iron rod or word), that is tried by fire. That’s the key.
Btw the passage on lot says his daughters had sex with him and that the people wanted to have sex with the Angels.
You and I agree in intention I just don’t think you are understanding my post or my words. It’s hard for me to be clear sometimes becAuse of dual meaning found.
Just a thought....if we can apply literally and figuratively that passage about “knowing” the angels. Just as a “beware”, which is partially why I am writing this post, that’s what goes on in soddam and Gomorrah and what did and what we should prepare for preceding his coming ...knowing the difference between whether or not to accept or reject a messenger. And here’s a thought....maybe it’s the same messenger which is why we are supposed to “try or test it”. Maybe it’s a test for us that we need to pass. Just throwing out some thoughts. Do what you want with this information. Information is just information until u apply it and test it.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 10:27 pm
by The Airbender
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 6:32 pm
The Airbender wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 9:49 am
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:46 pm
Rand wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:10 pm
Are you sure it isn't loins that have to do with posterity instead of bowels? This is why this is such a precarious venture. Waters has to do with peoples, usually masses of peoples.
So I’m speaking from memory. But the ordeal of bitter waters is what I am referring to, and it may say bowls but should be translated about the womb. For example, I think it’s Ruth and boaz, she puts her head at his feet. as well as that woman in the Old Testament, her name starts with a J. She hammers a nail in the side of a guy’s temple. The translation says feet but it’s referring to loins bowls or whatever. They are sex positions if you read what’s going on. It’s a dual meaning. You’ll have to look at text translations. I’m typing on my phone in the car. I don’t have good service. But. It’s all related. I might be right about bowls vs loins but it’s All, in the ritual, talking about sex or the womb These are read between the lines stuff just like the story of Lot. There’s hidden messages of these women. It’s not about the sex, it’s about the interpretation. Loin is found in our own ordinance. I might be confusing Judas with bowels but I might not be. I just don’t have good service to look it up. But basically, feet doesn’t mean feet, thigh doesn’t mean thigh, and bowel doesn’t mean bowel. It means something more like “loins” and womb. There are a few commentary’s somewhere that talk about this. It’s all about separating counterfeit and gods version. How does a woman who hammers a nail in a guy’s head be called “chosen”. The mysteries are in the details of the story.
Connect scriptures also about “opening the matrix”. The male opens the matrix which is translated as womb. I think this is the old and New Testament.
If you are suggesting that Ruth was "giving" Boaz a sample of what she had to offer her if he married her, then you are reading things in between the lines that are not there.
I believe there are many things that are given to us in parables sort of like the Stork bringing babies because we can't handle the real truth, such as the Serpent Seed. But I think we also can go off in the other direction too far. I think Lot was not having sexual relations with angels.
So just to clarify. I don’t believe Ruth was giving Boaz that either. Just like Sampson didn’t lose his gift because his hair got cut by a woman and a woman with her hair loose wasn’t a sinner. It’s the path of knowing good from evil. Like I said it’s all about posterity and the seed of God and nothing to do with adultery and yet sex has to do with both, adultery and seed, and yet understanding marriage and this relationship is the key. It’s knowing which way to read a symbol in a really complicated story. But the first step is seeing the patterns and the symbols.
I didn’t say Lot had sex with angels but clearly from the article above people want to “know” angels, and so we can apply that literally as well as figuriteyly. That’s part of the point of my post. and so whether or not one realizes what they may or may not be doing would be reflective on how in tune one is with their gift to “see”, “hear” etc. acting on a sin or spiritual prompting is based on how well they know the “word”. It’s the symbol of the bronzed, raised serpent on the staff( the staff is the iron rod or word), that is tried by fire. That’s the key.
Btw the passage on lot says his daughters had sex with him and that the people wanted to have sex with the Angels.
You and I agree in intention I just don’t think you are understanding my post or my words. It’s hard for me to be clear sometimes becAuse of dual meaning found.
I agree that I have not understood clearly what you meant. I understand on one level and I have been pondering to know on another. Sorry if I was hasty. I believe you may be on to something that most do not figure out because to the pure all things are pure but to the corrupt all things are corrupt. There are details that can't be shared with us until we are pure so that we do not misinterpret intention or motivation.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 10:33 pm
by MMbelieve
This is a weird thread and I have no idea what you guys are talking about, lol.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 11:08 pm
by TrueIntent
The Airbender wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 10:27 pm
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 6:32 pm
The Airbender wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 9:49 am
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:46 pm
So I’m speaking from memory. But the ordeal of bitter waters is what I am referring to, and it may say bowls but should be translated about the womb. For example, I think it’s Ruth and boaz, she puts her head at his feet. as well as that woman in the Old Testament, her name starts with a J. She hammers a nail in the side of a guy’s temple. The translation says feet but it’s referring to loins bowls or whatever. They are sex positions if you read what’s going on. It’s a dual meaning. You’ll have to look at text translations. I’m typing on my phone in the car. I don’t have good service. But. It’s all related. I might be right about bowls vs loins but it’s All, in the ritual, talking about sex or the womb These are read between the lines stuff just like the story of Lot. There’s hidden messages of these women. It’s not about the sex, it’s about the interpretation. Loin is found in our own ordinance. I might be confusing Judas with bowels but I might not be. I just don’t have good service to look it up. But basically, feet doesn’t mean feet, thigh doesn’t mean thigh, and bowel doesn’t mean bowel. It means something more like “loins” and womb. There are a few commentary’s somewhere that talk about this. It’s all about separating counterfeit and gods version. How does a woman who hammers a nail in a guy’s head be called “chosen”. The mysteries are in the details of the story.
Connect scriptures also about “opening the matrix”. The male opens the matrix which is translated as womb. I think this is the old and New Testament.
If you are suggesting that Ruth was "giving" Boaz a sample of what she had to offer her if he married her, then you are reading things in between the lines that are not there.
I believe there are many things that are given to us in parables sort of like the Stork bringing babies because we can't handle the real truth, such as the Serpent Seed. But I think we also can go off in the other direction too far. I think Lot was not having sexual relations with angels.
So just to clarify. I don’t believe Ruth was giving Boaz that either. Just like Sampson didn’t lose his gift because his hair got cut by a woman and a woman with her hair loose wasn’t a sinner. It’s the path of knowing good from evil. Like I said it’s all about posterity and the seed of God and nothing to do with adultery and yet sex has to do with both, adultery and seed, and yet understanding marriage and this relationship is the key. It’s knowing which way to read a symbol in a really complicated story. But the first step is seeing the patterns and the symbols.
I didn’t say Lot had sex with angels but clearly from the article above people want to “know” angels, and so we can apply that literally as well as figuriteyly. That’s part of the point of my post. and so whether or not one realizes what they may or may not be doing would be reflective on how in tune one is with their gift to “see”, “hear” etc. acting on a sin or spiritual prompting is based on how well they know the “word”. It’s the symbol of the bronzed, raised serpent on the staff( the staff is the iron rod or word), that is tried by fire. That’s the key.
Btw the passage on lot says his daughters had sex with him and that the people wanted to have sex with the Angels.
You and I agree in intention I just don’t think you are understanding my post or my words. It’s hard for me to be clear sometimes becAuse of dual meaning found.
I agree that I have not understood clearly what you meant. I understand on one level and I have been pondering to know on another. Sorry if I was hasty. I believe you may be on to something that most do not figure out because to the pure all things are pure but to the corrupt all things are corrupt. There are details that can't be shared with us until we are pure so that we do not misinterpret intention or motivation.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 11:11 pm
by TrueIntent
MMbelieve wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 10:33 pm
This is a weird thread and I have no idea what you guys are talking about, lol.
Lol. Not kidding this makes me smile. No worries. Most people don’t understand what I’m saying. But the people on the forum are the closest I will ever get to understanding me. It’s a good place to start. It’s okay. Read it,,,keep it in your brAin and at some point the pieces start to form into the concept.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 11:13 pm
by TrueIntent
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 11:11 pm
MMbelieve wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 10:33 pm
This is a weird thread and I have no idea what you guys are talking about, lol.
Lol. Not kidding this makes me smile. No worries. Most people don’t understand what I’m saying. But the people on the forum are the closest I will ever get to understanding me. It’s a good place to start. It’s okay. Read it,,,keep it in your brAin and at some point the pieces start to form into the concept.
MMbelieve, don’t know if you are endowed but being endowed helps with the concept. Otherwise, having knowledge of rituals in general even Jewish culture/ordinances helps.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 22nd, 2018, 11:47 pm
by MMbelieve
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 11:13 pm
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 11:11 pm
MMbelieve wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 10:33 pm
This is a weird thread and I have no idea what you guys are talking about, lol.
Lol. Not kidding this makes me smile. No worries. Most people don’t understand what I’m saying. But the people on the forum are the closest I will ever get to understanding me. It’s a good place to start. It’s okay. Read it,,,keep it in your brAin and at some point the pieces start to form into the concept.
MMbelieve, don’t know if you are endowed but being endowed helps with the concept. Otherwise, having knowledge of rituals in general even Jewish culture/ordinances helps.
I am but you lost me pretty early on, granted I haven't given much thought to it yet.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 23rd, 2018, 1:05 am
by Robin Hood
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 6:16 pm
Robin Hood wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 7:24 am
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 11:45 am
So, I believe in tokens and signs. This question is directed at those who have “knowledge” not speculation. I just came across this article as well as pondering the story of Lot.
Please read this article? It’s about sex with Angels and spirits based on a mans post.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/aaronleitc ... irits/amp/
The men banging on lots door want to “know” the spirits.
Now for the counterfeit....is Satan (and his followers) delivering tokens and signs by sex with spirits?
Which is why Lot (receiving messengers prepares a meal without leavin). And they prepare the counterfeit “to know” them.
Does anyone have “knowledge” that this is how the counterfeit is working? BecAuse I think it is. I just had an epiphany.
I read the article you linked to.
Sorry, but it's a pile of the brown stuff.
What specifically is a pile of brown stuff? I’m not vague, direct questions require direct answers so we don’t mislead anyone.
I think you know exactly what I mean.
The article is complete nonsense.... utter garbage.
Re: Asking a Direct Question. Tokens and signs
Posted: June 23rd, 2018, 2:08 am
by eddie
TrueIntent wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 11:11 pm
MMbelieve wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 10:33 pm
This is a weird thread and I have no idea what you guys are talking about, lol.
Lol. Not kidding this makes me smile. No worries. Most people don’t understand what I’m saying. But the people on the forum are the closest I will ever get to understanding me. It’s a good place to start. It’s okay. Read it,,,keep it in your brAin and at some point the pieces start to form into the concept.
I don't quite understand what you are saying, but I understand what you are doing..