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Where Israel Received the Priesthood

Posted: June 12th, 2018, 10:08 pm
by The Airbender
It is interesting to know that Moses received the priesthood from Jethro, the Midianite. Midian was the son of Abraham and his wife, Keturah.

Israel did not have the priesthood. I do not know at what point it was lost, but a people usually does not fall into captivity unless they have turned from God; There are other reasons, sometimes, but it makes sense that the loss of priesthood caused by apostasy also led to the loss of freedom for the Children of Israel.

The Lord had a plan wherein the covenant people who lost the priesthood were able to be restored and given that priesthood again by a different people.

Type and shadow for our day?

Re: Where Israel Received the Priesthood

Posted: June 13th, 2018, 10:10 am
by inho
What are the elements in the story that in your opinion hints that it is a type and shadow for our day? Is there anything that refers to our day?

If the answer to your question is positive, what does it mean? That Jews (or Israelites in more general) will receive priesthood from the Gentile LDS church? Or are you trying to argue that LDS church will loose (or has lost) the priesthood?

Re: Where Israel Received the Priesthood

Posted: June 13th, 2018, 10:14 am
by DesertWonderer2
The Airbender wrote: June 12th, 2018, 10:08 pm It is interesting to know that Moses received the priesthood from Jethro, the Midianite. Midian was the son of Abraham and his wife, Keturah.

Israel did not have the priesthood. I do not know at what point it was lost, but a people usually does not fall into captivity unless they have turned from God; There are other reasons, sometimes, but it makes sense that the loss of priesthood caused by apostasy also led to the loss of freedom for the Children of Israel.

The Lord had a plan wherein the covenant people who lost the priesthood were able to be restored and given that priesthood again by a different people.

Type and shadow for our day?
No.

Re: Where Israel Received the Priesthood

Posted: June 13th, 2018, 8:44 pm
by The Airbender
DesertWonderer2 wrote: June 13th, 2018, 10:14 am
The Airbender wrote: June 12th, 2018, 10:08 pm It is interesting to know that Moses received the priesthood from Jethro, the Midianite. Midian was the son of Abraham and his wife, Keturah.

Israel did not have the priesthood. I do not know at what point it was lost, but a people usually does not fall into captivity unless they have turned from God; There are other reasons, sometimes, but it makes sense that the loss of priesthood caused by apostasy also led to the loss of freedom for the Children of Israel.

The Lord had a plan wherein the covenant people who lost the priesthood were able to be restored and given that priesthood again by a different people.

Type and shadow for our day?
No.
Very well thought out answer.

Re: Where Israel Received the Priesthood

Posted: June 13th, 2018, 8:55 pm
by Jesef
So many pieces of our theology sound like mythology. "Type and shadow of our day?" sounds like parallelomania:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallelomania

Think about it. There's really no evidence (in reality) for so many of these things. Might as well wait until the next realm.

Re: Where Israel Received the Priesthood

Posted: June 13th, 2018, 9:32 pm
by gardener4life
The Israelites had rejected obedience to the Gospel and keeping the commandments. Thus, they had lost access to the Melchezedek Priesthood, with a few exceptions like Elijah, Isaiah, and a few others.

In general, they had a Levitical Priesthood...and the Israelites as a whole didn't have it. The Levites had this Levitical Priesthood, which was used to officiate in sacrifices and burnt offerings, preside over feasts, and gatherings. And so on. Their Levitical Priesthood was very similar to a more limited Aaronic Priesthood.

However, bear in mind they didn't have the sacrament as we know it today.

Instead they were being taught to prepare themselves and learn obedience to the Gospel and learn obedience to the 10 commandments (Which they didn't do very well in following, except for a few rare individuals). They weren't living worthy of being ready to for baptism, nor did they even understand what Baptsim was because of their apostate state of mind...this is illustrated in 1 Kings Chapter 7 and 2 Chronicles where they are building Solomon's Temple and told to build a molten sea resting on the backs of 12 oxen but don't have it spelled out as a baptismal font. And why is it not stated as a baptismal font? Because they weren't living ready to accept the Gospel.

Instead they were taught to look forward to the day a Messiah would deliver them from sin...except because they weren't living ready to have the Holy Ghost they misunderstood the Messiah to save them in war, instead of peace, love, and redemption from Sin.

Still, the idea of their sacrifices helps us understand what Jesus taught. We can take their offering up a sacrifice to help us when we take the sacrament to remember to offer up our hearts and minds in humility unto the Savior when we go to sacrament meeting. The physical offering up a sacrifice we are told to not do any more in terms of animals or blood (quoted in New Testament & Book of Mormon), but we can visually go through a mental checklist in sacrament meeting to actually to visually in our minds be thinking to offer up our will, heart, might, mind, and strength unto the Savior to follow him.

Also thanks for this thread and the positivity of others' posts.