The greatest lie ever told, that vaccines are safe and effective.

[eddie]

The greatest lie ever told is that vaccines are safe and effective.
-Dr. Len Horowitz

But don’t take Dr. Horowitz’s word for it! Check out the statistics for yourself; from 1990 to 2008, the US Government recorded 238,755 vaccine related injuries and deaths, according to the VAERS database. Since the FDA estimates that 90% of vaccine reactions go unrecorded, we can extrapolate that during the past 18 years, there have actually been almost 2.4 million vaccine related injuries and deaths!!

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But that’s not surprising, considering the toxic ingredients in most vaccines. Oftentimes described as “toxic cocktails,” many vaccines contain XE “toxic cocktails” which are live and dead animal viruses that have been cultured in monkey kidney tissue, cow tissue, goat tissue, pig tissue, and even aborted human fetuses. Vaccines contain any combination of the following: thimerosal (a mercury derivative), aluminum, formaldehyde (carcinogenic embalming fluid), phenol, ethylene glycol (antifreeze), live viruses, bacteria, and acetone, among other things.

What if I were to take some mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, antifreeze, and live viruses cultured in dead animal tissue, then mix them together with some peanut butter and spread it on a piece of bread for my children to eat for a snack? Would you think I was a good parent? What if I were to tell you, “This will keep them from getting sick”? Would you question my sanity? The odds are that I would be arrested for child abuse. However, when doctors inject our kids with the same ingredients (minus the bread and peanut butter) and tell us, “This will keep them from getting sick,” most of us don’t even give it a second thought.

What if you call your family physician and tell him you are going to inject your baby with mercury, aluminum, and formaldehyde and that you are wondering what the “safe dosage” was for these ingredients? Well, right after he calls CPS, he will probably call the police! You see, there is no safe dosage because these are all lethal substances that are also potentially carcinogenic. But mercury derivatives, aluminum, and formaldehyde are ingredients in most vaccinations. How is it possible that they are safe?

The answer depends upon who is injecting them. If you or I inject our child with mercury or formaldehyde, we are going to jail. But if a pharmaceutical company and a doctor inject the same toxic poisons, then they are perfectly safe. What’s wrong with this picture? Unfortunately, most Americans follow the masses, believe what we’re told, don’t ask questions, and place blind faith in our doctors.

What about Autism?
In the 1970s, only 1 child in 10,000 was autistic. In the 1990s, there was a “stepped-up vaccine schedule” where the amount of thimerosal was drastically increased in most childhood vaccines, including the MMR and DPT. Now, in the year 2009, autism affects 1 in 67 children! It is a well-established fact that exposure to mercury can cause immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioral dysfunctions – all similar to traits defining, or associated with, autism. My cousin’s second boy is autistic and he first showed autistic behavior less than 24 hours after receiving the MMR vaccine. The evidence linking vaccines to autism is overwhelming.

Interestingly, in March of 2008, the U.S. government conceded that childhood vaccines were responsible for the autism in 9-year-old Hannah Poling. This unprecedented concession was in response to one of three test cases that allege thimerosal caused autism in children.

I am no longer “trying to dig up evidence to prove” vaccines cause autism. There is already abundant evidence…. This debate is not scientific but political.
—Dr. David Ayoub, M.D.

I know we were all taught to blindly trust our doctors, but the fact is that they no longer deserve that trust. Physicians take an oath to “First, do no harm,” but today, what gets injected into your child is being decided not by physicians but by multinational pharmaceutical companies which have a financial incentive to sell as many vaccines as possible. Only by keeping people in the dark can they continue their absurd profiteering from the vaccine industry. We assume that because vaccines are mandated by US law that the government is verifying their safety and effectiveness. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Every day, millions of children are lined up and injected with toxic, putrid substances called vaccines. Before they begin first grade, children can get as many as 36 vaccines! There are about 200 more vaccines in the pipeline. Scenarios for the future even include consuming vaccines in nose sprays, ointments and fruits and vegetables. This “Vaccine Obsession” has gone beyond what anyone can possibly defend on scientific grounds. Pumping more vaccines into our precious children borders on the criminal.

With every child on the planet a potential “required recipient” of multiple vaccines, and with every healthcare system and government a potential buyer, it is little wonder that billions of dollars are spent nurturing the vaccine industry. Without public outcry, we will see more and more new vaccines required of us and our children. And while profits are readily calculable, the real human costs are being ignored. According to Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National Institute of Health reported in December, 2003 that “the only safe vaccine is one that is never used.”

[Jamescm]

I disagree; I think that the greatest lie ever told is that the devil does not exist.

More related to the post's content, though, I have a question concerning this statement:

Interestingly, in March of 2008, the U.S. government conceded that childhood vaccines were responsible for the autism in 9-year-old Hannah Poling. This unprecedented concession was in response to one of three test cases that allege thimerosal caused autism in children.

Do you have a specific source for this?

[abijah]

my cousin was a perfectly normal sociable baby. their family were living next to us at the time. i think he was around four when he got his vaccines. within a week he was gone. the change couldn’t have been more dramatic.

[Juliet]

The Amish don't do vaccines and they don't have autism, cancer, etc, nor do they have small pox, polio, and etc.

[Z2100]

Some vaccines have slight side effects on me while others are fine. It all depends on how your body's immune system is built.

Processed foods and diet also have an effect on your reactions to vaccines. Today's modern medicine is nothing short of a miracle.

With today's rising rates in child & adult obesity, it's no wonder our bodies start doing crap.

[DesertWonderer2]

Fail: they are quite safe. Much safer in fact than getting polio for example.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/48/4/456/284219

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/conte ... use-autism

https://medium.com/the-method/vaccines- ... a5b1836022

https://www.publichealth.org/public-awa ... -debunked/

[Patriot16]

Vaccines are main reason our life expentancy has risen from 30 years to 70. If you've given up on vaccines, are you going to stop washing your hands?

Patriot16

[David13]

Vaccines are nothing but miscellaneous poisonous chemicals that the pharmaceutical companies use to make money.
Side effects be darned, they have a profit line to follow.
dc

[eddie]

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[I AM]

more of the secret combinations at work.
the medical and pharmaceutical companies are at the top of the list.

vaccines and autism
check it out.

Ether 8
21 And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking, and also the destruction of the people of Nephi.

[Durzan]

more of the secret combinations at work.
the medical and phar. are at the top of the list.

vaccines and autism
check it out.

Ether 8
21 And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking, and also the destruction of the people of Nephi.

That particular study isn’t exactly reliable.

[I AM]

"Anybody can toss up a website, so for every page on healthchildren.org declaring that vaccines are safe there is a page that details the lawsuit filed by former Merck scientists stating that the company intentionally skewed results from their MMR vaccine.


In addition to the antiscience mood, there is also a growing disdain for pharmaceutical companies.

That’s been fueled partly by stories of pharmaceutical firms charging what many in the public see as outrageous prices for products.

These high-profile stories include Mylan’s price hike of its EpiPen for serious food allergy reactions, to the sudden 5,000 percent price increase for the lifesaving drug Daraprim by Turing Pharmaceuticals.

On its site, the World Mercury Project says the pharmaceutical industry is a trillion dollar industry with vaccines bringing in $25 billion in annual sales.

They say the “insatiable pharmaceutical industry” has 271 new vaccines under development at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the hope of raising annual vaccine sales to $100 billion.

With this kind of money and the health of children at stake, it’s probably no mystery why the arguments on both sides of the vaccine safety issue can get heated."

[eddie]

I believe in vaccines and modern medicine. I believe they are a good thing.

I did too, I was wrong. A decision a little boy and myself will pay for the rest of our lives. Its criminal what has been done to the children.

[Craig Johnson]

I am in total sympathy with this post and I want to comment on it, but someone I am related to might read my comments and I would be in trouble. I just want to say that I have a lot of sympathy for people who have suffered due to this issue and I better leave it at that.

[I AM]

Durzan I just have a question.

[Durzan]

Durzan I just have a question.
do you know why I can't highlight things on this site ?
highlight so I can then copy something ?
I do know that I can't changed my settings
they are preset somehow.

Talk with Brian about that stuff. I can't really help much with issues with highlighting stuff.

[Ezra]

my cousin was a perfectly normal sociable baby. their family were living next to us at the time. i think he was around four when he got his vaccines. within a week he was gone. the change couldn’t have been more dramatic.

Same thing happened to my son at age 1.5 when he got vaccines.

At age 6 we started giving him cbd oil. At 6.5 he was a normal kid again.

Get that baby on cbd oil. It’s amazing. Pm me for more info or questions.

[Ezra]

Fail: they are quite safe. Much safer and in fact than getting polio for example.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/48/4/456/284219

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/conte ... use-autism

https://medium.com/the-method/vaccines- ... a5b1836022

https://www.publichealth.org/public-awa ... -debunked/

My son disagrees with you.

[abijah]

my cousin was a perfectly normal sociable baby. their family were living next to us at the time. i think he was around four when he got his vaccines. within a week he was gone. the change couldn’t have been more dramatic.

Same thing happened to my son at age 1.5 when he got vaccines.

At age 6 we started giving him cbd oil. At 6.5 he was a normal kid again.

Get that baby on cbd oil. It’s amazing. Pm me for more info or questions.

I myself, while not autistic, have nuerological issues and related insomnia that I smoke cannabis to treat. Unfortunately my uncle is very "anti-drug" and refuses to touch anything related to marijuana, even though I can hardly think of anything as harmless as CBD. My family is full of mental illness, I wish they would be more open to trying it, I bet it would really help them.

[cyclOps]

Vaccines are main reason our life expentancy has risen from 30 years to 70. If you've given up on vaccines, are you going to stop washing your hands?

Patriot16

I hardly wash my hands. Usually only after they get visibly dirty. Sometimes not even then, and usually not with soap.

I am also a very healthy man.

[eddie]

"Anybody can toss up a website, so for every page on healthchildren.org declaring that vaccines are safe there is a page that details the lawsuit filed by former Merck scientists stating that the company intentionally skewed results from their MMR vaccine.


In addition to the antiscience mood, there is also a growing disdain for pharmaceutical companies.

That’s been fueled partly by stories of pharmaceutical firms charging what many in the public see as outrageous prices for products.

These high-profile stories include Mylan’s price hike of its EpiPen for serious food allergy reactions, to the sudden 5,000 percent price increase for the lifesaving drug Daraprim by Turing Pharmaceuticals.

On its site, the World Mercury Project says the pharmaceutical industry is a trillion dollar industry with vaccines bringing in $25 billion in annual sales.

They say the “insatiable pharmaceutical industry” has 271 new vaccines under development at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the hope of raising annual vaccine sales to $100 billion.

With this kind of money and the health of children at stake, it’s probably no mystery why the arguments on both sides of the vaccine safety issue can get heated."

Anybody can throw up a website, but some of us watched it happen and now live with it.

[brianj]

Vaccines are nothing but miscellaneous poisonous chemicals that the pharmaceutical companies use to make money.
Side effects be darned, they have a profit line to follow.
dc

And are diseases such as polio, whooping cough, measles, smallpox, and chicken pox fabrications that never really existed or are they man-made diseases that were spread by conspiracies so people would be injected with their snake oil?

[Juliet]

http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
Graphical evidence that disease was on the way out regardless of vaccines.

[Juliet]

Every vaccine has a story behind it, Dr. Humphries says. The smallpox vaccine, for example, was actually developed long before the medical establishment knew anything about the human immune system. The revelations on smallpox alone are fascinating enough to purchase this book, and is far more detailed than the summary in this article.

The vaccine was actually developed based on a rumor circulating among dairy maids. The rumor was that when a dairy maid had been infected with cowpox—which is a common infection on the udder of the cow—she would no longer be susceptible to smallpox.

The rumor was a persistent one, as rumors can be, despite the fact that there were plenty of dairy maids who developed smallpox after having cowpox. But this rumor is what led Edward Jenner to develop the first smallpox vaccine.

"Basically, it was made by scraping pus off the belly of a cow," Dr. Humphries says. "Sometimes there was some goat genetic disease in there. There was horsepox mixed in there.

There was sometimes human pox mixed in and some glycerin. They would shake it up; they would take kind of a prong, and puncture the skin several times...

What I didn't realize was that there were many people who developed serious smallpox disease and died after they were vaccinated. The severity of disease was often worse in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.

There are statistics that show that the death rate was higher in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated."

When the smallpox vaccine was developed, there was also no way to accurately diagnose the type of pox disease a person had. It may have been chickenpox, monkeypox, or smallpox, but back then, any kind of pox disease was considered smallpox—even though the vaccine didn't actually have the human smallpox virus in it. Animal pox virus was always used. According to Dr. Humphries, it was the most contaminated vaccine that's ever been on the market.

"If you look at a town like Leicester in England, that town was noticing that they had one of the highest vaccination rates in the vaccinated world and their smallpox breakout was higher than ever," Dr. Humphries says. "The people in the town had a rally. The mayor and some of the health officials were there. They all agreed that they were going to stop vaccinating... The result was quite different from the predictions.

The predictions were that there was going to be a bonfire of disease set upon the planet and that these people in Leicester were risking the health of the world by not making vaccination mandatory. But once they stopped smallpox vaccines they had the lowest rate of smallpox infection and deaths.

What we show in our book – and we show the graphs of the disease rates and the death rates – was that both of them went down precipitously after the vaccinations were stopped. That story right there tells you that vaccines were not what made the disease go away; what made the disease go away was isolation and sanitation."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.m ... ation.aspx

[Juliet]

Antibody Is the Wrong Way to Ascertain Immunity
One of the major arguments against vaccine-induced immunity is that it primarily stimulates the humoral immune system and not the cellular immune system. Antibodies are produced by the humoral immune system and then routinely measured to determine "immunity." The problem with this approach is that you can have high antibody levels and still get the disease. It's very difficult and expensive to measure the cellular immune response, and immunologists admit that they are still in the dark about a lot of the finer points of the overall immune response.

When you use antibody titers or blood levels to check for immunity, all you're doing is getting a picture of what happened (you had an immune response); it doesn't tell you whether you're going to be immune in the future, because antibodies are only one aspect of the immune response, and in some cases are not even necessary to easily combat the sickness and become immune.

For example, those with agammaglobulinemia—a disease where you cannot make antibodies — can get infected with measles, recover uneventfully, and still respond to subsequent challenges of the virus in a normal healthy fashion and not get sick. These individuals will have lifelong immunity to measles, the same as someone without agammaglobulinemia.

Traditionally, the way immunity is determined is to do a test that measures antibodies, which is the humoral immune system. But there's no good way to assess the cellular immune system. It's a really imprecise science at best. As Dr. Humphries notes:

"It's not only imprecise; sometimes it's downright inaccurate. You can have very high antibody levels, like numerous case reports of people who have hugely high antibody levels for tetanus, or normal antibodies, and have gotten some of the worst cases of tetanus. I have papers that show that people without antibody for polio have actually been able to respond to the virus as if they were already immune. The antibody really is a real wrong roadmap to look at to tell what's really going on. Sometimes there's correlation, but it's certainly not a given."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.m ... ation.aspx