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Lyster wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2018, 11:26 am This principle is also found in the Book of Mormon in 2 Nephi 28:30 - "For behold, thus saith the Lord God: I will give unto the children of men line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little; and blessed are those who hearken unto my precepts, and lend an ear unto my counsel, for they shall learn wisdom; for unto him that receiveth I will give more; and from them that shall say, We have enough, from them shall be taken away even that which they have."

And in the Bible, in Mark 4:25 - "For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath."

Continue to read, ponder, and pray, and you will have more understanding given. You're doing well, adhmedcrow.

ahmedcrow wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2018, 2:13 pm ...one of visions I saw that there're hidden faces on my head, both of the two faces on my head look to each others, I can't draw to explain the positions of that faces, one of the two faces is on the left half of my brain and the other on the right half, the face on the left half is related to another person out in this world, like if there's a connection between the face and that man too, it seems that man has the same face too, but the vision said that man is an enemy to me...

The vision said it's a similar situation and it seems that I'll win in the end, for that I think Gospel and old testament and book of Mormon are useful in such stuff, for Mormon I saw another vision said that my nature is mormonic...

Lyster wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2018, 11:11 pm

ahmedcrow wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2018, 2:13 pm ...one of visions I saw that there're hidden faces on my head, both of the two faces on my head look to each others, I can't draw to explain the positions of that faces, one of the two faces is on the left half of my brain and the other on the right half, the face on the left half is related to another person out in this world, like if there's a connection between the face and that man too, it seems that man has the same face too, but the vision said that man is an enemy to me...

The vision said it's a similar situation and it seems that I'll win in the end, for that I think Gospel and old testament and book of Mormon are useful in such stuff, for Mormon I saw another vision said that my nature is mormonic...

I am not an expert in dreams like Daniel or Joseph of the Old Testament, but your words here strike me as though you may mean this:

You have an inner struggle, trying to identify the truth that is being told to you from different perspectives. The two faces of your mind, looking at each other, seems to represent a clash of ideas. The left one you identify as an enemy, and I can only assume the right is yourself or a friend. Your visions have told you that your nature is "mormonic" (which I assume means that you are beginning to feel light and truth from your study of the Book of Mormon). It could be that your are starting to recognize the truth of these words.

If this is what the dream means, then I believe that you will need to seek deeply to understand what other information is coming from your "enemy". If you can cast it out and embrace the good, you will "win" as it said.

I can't for sure tell you who your enemy is (though the devil is definitely an enemy to you), or what information has been given to you by them. That is why you will need to continue in prayer and study. You will need to feel the Holy Spirit as he guides you to the good, and away from your enemy.

I hope that helps. But, of course, you must find the answers yourself. I wish you luck, and an abundance of the Spirit of God.

Lyster wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2018, 5:22 pm I wish I was able to help more with the understanding.

Seek the Truth wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2018, 5:27 pm What a great thread, thank you Ahmed

ahmedcrow wrote: ↑March 24th, 2018, 11:37 am

Lyster wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2018, 5:22 pm I wish I was able to help more with the understanding.

I tell you something, I thought in something that's related to 2 Nephi 3 but I'm not sure of, and another vision I saw that I'm the Paraclete (the comforter) who's mentioned in Gospel of John, but the explanation I read is that the Paraclete isn't someone who will come in end of times as I thought and many Muslim people thought, Paraclete was the holy spirit, many Muslims said Paraclete is the prophet Mohammad but with no proof for that, the vision I've told me that I'm the Paraclete.

What's this mean ?
It means the responsibility to guide the world in end of times, or it means the impostor messiah played in my ideas like what he did in many people here in middle east to think themselves the chosen ones, I don't know the exact description of the impostor messiah in English or Gospel to translate his name well, but he's a character we know in Islam and in Arabic.

To me, I think that I free my responsibility when I talk about some visions or verses that seem to be like proofs for something God wanted or planned to, it makes my heart feel some good, I think between me and myself that if the time of the prophets didn't finish yet, and these visions and verses meant me as one of prophets of this age, those don't accept or help me to do something of the situation of this age would be with the other side, the side of impostor messiah, 'cause this is his time to come. If I don't have mighty works, he has things like mighty works, it makes me feel that I'm weak and can't save anyone.

ahmedcrow wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2018, 2:13 pm

Lyster wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2018, 11:26 am This principle is also found in the Book of Mormon in 2 Nephi 28:30 - "For behold, thus saith the Lord God: I will give unto the children of men line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little; and blessed are those who hearken unto my precepts, and lend an ear unto my counsel, for they shall learn wisdom; for unto him that receiveth I will give more; and from them that shall say, We have enough, from them shall be taken away even that which they have."

And in the Bible, in Mark 4:25 - "For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath."

Continue to read, ponder, and pray, and you will have more understanding given. You're doing well, adhmedcrow.

Wonderful words and verses, you've good understanding. I'm doing like your advice, I'm reading and ponder to have more understanding, it's very useful to have explanations for strange things happened in my life to me and to my family, one of visions I saw that there're hidden faces on my head, both of the two faces on my head look to each others, I can't draw to explain the positions of that faces, one of the two faces is on the left half of my brain and the other on the right half, the face on the left half is related to another person out in this world, like if there's a connection between the face and that man too, it seems that man has the same face too, but the vision said that man is an enemy to me, he bring any thing of this world to make it works against me, I felt I'm alone in this world and no one can help me and if tell this vision to normal people here in my country they will think it a schizophrenic ideas, 'cause schizophrenic person can think that there's a hidden enemy who persecutes him, but the vision said this situation is like the verse "These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world." - John 16:33

The vision said it's a similar situation and it seems that I'll win in the end, for that I think Gospel and old testament and book of Mormon are useful in such stuff, for Mormon I saw another vision said that my nature is mormonic, I said in myself too I've dark color like Lamanites, and the vision show me my skin is fire and this fire come to this dark color which is close to the color of that fire.

Another vision makes the study of Gospel explains many things that I saw if Quran said "The messiah Jesus son of Mary" it means Jesus himself, but if Quran said "The messiah son of Mary", it means me, so Gospel is necessary to understand what are these strange visions.

alaris wrote: ↑March 24th, 2018, 2:13 pm Joseph Smith said the Holy Ghost will yet take upon himself a body. I'm on my phone so getting those quotes are a bit cumbersome but I'll grab them later if you want.

alaris wrote: ↑March 24th, 2018, 2:13 pm You may be seeing what is about to come to pass and there seems to be a parable like quality to these dreams.

I have a couple of thoughts to help you decipher your left side right side dream. We learn in the temple each side of the body pertains to the priesthood. The Aaronic pertains to the left and the Melchizedek to the right. Not coincidentally, the right half of the brain is the creative. The tokens of the priesthood reflect this progression from receiving on the right side to receiving on the left and executing (doing) on the right.

ahmedcrow wrote: ↑March 25th, 2018, 9:48 am

alaris wrote: ↑March 24th, 2018, 2:13 pm Joseph Smith said the Holy Ghost will yet take upon himself a body. I'm on my phone so getting those quotes are a bit cumbersome but I'll grab them later if you want.

Sure, you can tell me about that quotes, may be I'll find interesting information, and I'll tell you another visions, we know in Islam that the angel Gabriel, he has many abilities, I know that in Christianity the holy spirit is another concept, I saw in visions that the holy spirit or the angel Gabriel will come down to the inside of my heart, and he was like in a dove form, he's not a real dove but something like that, like the Gospel said about the holy spirit when it come down on Jesus, and I saw that Gabriel took his angelic form inside my body, his hands on my hands and his legs on my legs and his head on my head, he was smiling, he is made of white light, in Islam we know that angels are made of light, I want to mention that there's the angels of hell too, they're pure black or what I know of 'em, and I don't know what they are made of, and they aren't demons, they are real angels, 'cause I know from the Gospel language that we can call the demons those follow Lucifer with angels, but they aren't real angels, they're demons, and may be too the hell has demons those will punish the sinners like many testimonies I heard before.

An addition point, there's another topic the visions talked about, it was "Romans numbers", that numbers aren't like what we expect, shortly, God the father has number, son has number and holy spirit has number, some people can come in the same numbers, I know Christian young man, he is my neighbor, vision said that young man is in the holy spirit number, he's not only the one in world in this number, but there're many in may be every where are in the number of the holy spirit or Gabriel, the same for the number of the son and God the father, visions said that I'm in the number of God the father, I'm a humanity form of God the father, and there're many like me but I'm the main one or original one in this world.

alaris wrote: ↑March 24th, 2018, 2:13 pm You may be seeing what is about to come to pass and there seems to be a parable like quality to these dreams.

I have a couple of thoughts to help you decipher your left side right side dream. We learn in the temple each side of the body pertains to the priesthood. The Aaronic pertains to the left and the Melchizedek to the right. Not coincidentally, the right half of the brain is the creative. The tokens of the priesthood reflect this progression from receiving on the right side to receiving on the left and executing (doing) on the right.

Visions said that the left half of my head is Lot, the prophet, and the right half is Moses, we ca call in Arabic the double halves of the face with "face" or one half of the face with face, the two faces are two halves in fact, right half of face is the face in my left half of head, and left half in the right half of my head, in this image something close to what I want to say but I'm not good painter



I know some few information about some faces I've, there're many faces related to me, the right face of me, the outside one has the name "the grand", the left face of me has more than one face on itself, one has the name "the great, and it came from my father, it's my father face, and another face has the name "the high" and it's my face.

alaris wrote: ↑March 29th, 2018, 9:47 am

ahmedcrow wrote: ↑March 25th, 2018, 9:48 am

alaris wrote: ↑March 24th, 2018, 2:13 pm Joseph Smith said the Holy Ghost will yet take upon himself a body. I'm on my phone so getting those quotes are a bit cumbersome but I'll grab them later if you want.

Sure, you can tell me about that quotes, may be I'll find interesting information, and I'll tell you another visions, we know in Islam that the angel Gabriel, he has many abilities, I know that in Christianity the holy spirit is another concept, I saw in visions that the holy spirit or the angel Gabriel will come down to the inside of my heart, and he was like in a dove form, he's not a real dove but something like that, like the Gospel said about the holy spirit when it come down on Jesus, and I saw that Gabriel took his angelic form inside my body, his hands on my hands and his legs on my legs and his head on my head, he was smiling, he is made of white light, in Islam we know that angels are made of light, I want to mention that there's the angels of hell too, they're pure black or what I know of 'em, and I don't know what they are made of, and they aren't demons, they are real angels, 'cause I know from the Gospel language that we can call the demons those follow Lucifer with angels, but they aren't real angels, they're demons, and may be too the hell has demons those will punish the sinners like many testimonies I heard before.

An addition point, there's another topic the visions talked about, it was "Romans numbers", that numbers aren't like what we expect, shortly, God the father has number, son has number and holy spirit has number, some people can come in the same numbers, I know Christian young man, he is my neighbor, vision said that young man is in the holy spirit number, he's not only the one in world in this number, but there're many in may be every where are in the number of the holy spirit or Gabriel, the same for the number of the son and God the father, visions said that I'm in the number of God the father, I'm a humanity form of God the father, and there're many like me but I'm the main one or original one in this world.

alaris wrote: ↑March 24th, 2018, 2:13 pm You may be seeing what is about to come to pass and there seems to be a parable like quality to these dreams.

I have a couple of thoughts to help you decipher your left side right side dream. We learn in the temple each side of the body pertains to the priesthood. The Aaronic pertains to the left and the Melchizedek to the right. Not coincidentally, the right half of the brain is the creative. The tokens of the priesthood reflect this progression from receiving on the right side to receiving on the left and executing (doing) on the right.

Visions said that the left half of my head is Lot, the prophet, and the right half is Moses, we ca call in Arabic the double halves of the face with "face" or one half of the face with face, the two faces are two halves in fact, right half of face is the face in my left half of head, and left half in the right half of my head, in this image something close to what I want to say but I'm not good painter



I know some few information about some faces I've, there're many faces related to me, the right face of me, the outside one has the name "the grand", the left face of me has more than one face on itself, one has the name "the great, and it came from my father, it's my father face, and another face has the name "the high" and it's my face.

Sorry for the delay. Here are those quotes :


Joseph Smith (President)

But the Holy Ghost is yet a spiritual body and waiting to take to himself a body, as the Savior did or as God did or the gods before them took bodies; for the Savior says the work that my Father did do I also. . . . He took himself a body and then laid down his life that he might take it up again. (The Words of Joseph Smith, p. 382; standardized)

Franklin D. Richards (First Presidency)

Joseph also said that the Holy Ghost is now in a state of probation which if he should perform in righteousness he may pass through the same or a similar course of things that the Son has. (The Words of Joseph Smith, p. 245; standardized)

I posted in another thread last night on who the Holy Ghost is. The thread name is Throne of Israel I believe. Anyway Gabriel is certainly in that class of being but is not the ascending Holy Ghost to whom Joseph Smith referred above in my humble estimation.