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Scourges and Harvest

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 6:48 pm
by The Airbender
We sang Hymn No. 6 today during Sacrament Meeting. The third verse really stuck out to me.

In faith we’ll rely on the arm of Jehovah
To guide thru these last days of trouble and gloom,
And after the scourges and harvest are over,
We’ll rise with the just when the Savior doth come.
Then all that was promised the Saints will be given,
And they will be crown’d with the angels of heav’n,
And earth will appear as the Garden of Eden,
And Christ and his people will ever be one.


The Savior won't come until after the scourges and harvest take place. I wonder when that will happen...

Re: Scourges and Harvest

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 8:07 pm
by marc
Very soon.

Re: Scourges and Harvest

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 10:45 pm
by brianj
I believe the scourges will come very soon. But I respect that people have believed this for centuries if not millennia. So in addition to believing, and hoping, these scourges will come soon, I plan for them to not come. Money in retirement accounts that could be used as a down payment for a decent home, a newer car, or a dream vacation will remain in the retirement accounts and I will continue adding to those accounts.

Re: Scourges and Harvest

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 11:42 pm
by Kingdom of ZION
The Airbender wrote: March 18th, 2018, 6:48 pm We sang Hymn No. 6 today during Sacrament Meeting. The third verse really stuck out to me.

In faith we’ll rely on the arm of Jehovah
To guide thru these last days of trouble and gloom,
And after the scourges and harvest are over,
We’ll rise with the just when the Savior doth come.
Then all that was promised the Saints will be given,
And they will be crown’d with the angels of heav’n,
And earth will appear as the Garden of Eden,
And Christ and his people will ever be one.


The Savior won't come until after the scourges and harvest take place. I wonder when that will happen...
It will happen on the Last Day, before the world, when He comes with Ten Thousand of Ten Thousand of His Saints in the Clouds, and He places His feet upon the Mount of Olives. Then immediately afterward the worldwide earthquake will come, Rome and the world (babylon) will burn and the Mt of Olives will split. The Sun will be darkened and the Moon will be turned to blood and the stars will appear to fall from heaven, as we are moved out of our orbit, unto the original orbit.

You asked when... when you see the Two Witnesses laying in the streets of Jerusalem for three and one half days... if you were not caught up in his coming, then on that fourth day, in the morning... one better have a VERY GOOD heat suit on!

Will their be any people who will survive upon the earth, and remain? Isaiah speaks of their being so few, that a small child will be able to write their names. I would guess another ark with 8 people, chosen to remain! However, not on a boat this time :)

Shalom

Re: Scourges and Harvest

Posted: March 19th, 2018, 12:30 am
by Seek the Truth
I've always liked koz posts

Re: Scourges and Harvest

Posted: March 19th, 2018, 8:27 am
by EdGoble
The Airbender wrote: March 18th, 2018, 6:48 pm We sang Hymn No. 6 today during Sacrament Meeting. The third verse really stuck out to me.

In faith we’ll rely on the arm of Jehovah
To guide thru these last days of trouble and gloom,
And after the scourges and harvest are over,
We’ll rise with the just when the Savior doth come.
Then all that was promised the Saints will be given,
And they will be crown’d with the angels of heav’n,
And earth will appear as the Garden of Eden,
And Christ and his people will ever be one.


The Savior won't come until after the scourges and harvest take place. I wonder when that will happen...
Only the Lord knows when enough has been done to gather all those that will be gathered. He will not destroy the wicked entirely until they have all been warned, either by LDS missionaries preaching repentance, or by evangelicals or catholics preaching repentance. All must be warned to one degree or another, but I think that the classic expectation that that warning voice must come only from LDS missionaries is a misplaced expectation. I think that we have partners out there that are also crying repentance who are on the Lord's errand to the degree that the Holy Ghost has inspired them to do it. We cannot expect that the whole world will hear the fulness of the Gospel before the end time. But we can expect that all of those that will survive the burning will hear some sort of warning voice by those who have been inspired by the Holy Ghost, to bring them up to an acceptable level of repentance to be considered at least "Terrestrial" material.

Re: Scourges and Harvest

Posted: March 19th, 2018, 10:19 am
by Kingdom of ZION
EdGoble wrote: March 19th, 2018, 8:27 am
The Airbender wrote: March 18th, 2018, 6:48 pm We sang Hymn No. 6 today during Sacrament Meeting. The third verse really stuck out to me.

In faith we’ll rely on the arm of Jehovah
To guide thru these last days of trouble and gloom,
And after the scourges and harvest are over,
We’ll rise with the just when the Savior doth come.
Then all that was promised the Saints will be given,
And they will be crown’d with the angels of heav’n,
And earth will appear as the Garden of Eden,
And Christ and his people will ever be one.


The Savior won't come until after the scourges and harvest take place. I wonder when that will happen...
Only the Lord knows when enough has been done to gather all those that will be gathered. He will not destroy the wicked entirely until they have all been warned, either by LDS missionaries preaching repentance, or by evangelicals or catholics preaching repentance. All must be warned to one degree or another, but I think that the classic expectation that that warning voice must come only from LDS missionaries is a misplaced expectation. I think that we have partners out there that are also crying repentance who are on the Lord's errand to the degree that the Holy Ghost has inspired them to do it. We cannot expect that the whole world will hear the fulness of the Gospel before the end time. But we can expect that all of those that will survive the burning will hear some sort of warning voice by those who have been inspired by the Holy Ghost, to bring them up to an acceptable level of repentance to be considered at least "Terrestrial" material.
And even those who have no law given unto them in this life, but would have accepted the Good New and would have embraced it, are counted worthy. You are correct in that all the nations of the earth have to have the gospel preached to them. Iran, China, and North Korea come to mind as some of those who can hardly be conceived as having had a warning voice given. However, China had missionaries for centuries before Communism, and the same for Iran and Korea. It is in the Father's hand as to judge when they have received sufficient warning.

In light of the speed that Prophecies are being fulfilled, personal revelation and the signs of the times... It is my testimony that you would be very foolish indeed to be planning on living a full lifetime, and passing on without seeing the coming of the Messiah in glory, even if you are 60 years old and you were guaranteed to see your 70th birthday! I just turned 60, and I know I will see my 70th birthday, and the Second Coming of our Messiah and Savior in glory!

Re: Scourges and Harvest

Posted: March 19th, 2018, 10:29 am
by DesertWonderer2
The saints during Joseph’s day thought it would happen then. The saints during WWI thought it would happen then. The saints during WWII thought it would happen then. A fair number thought Y2K was it. JR and her followers said it was going to happen 2 yrs ago.

In a closed door meeting a couple years ago, Elder U said “we don’t know when it will be”. I’ll go with that. It could be tomorrow or it could be 100 years from now.