PART 2
Spirit, Water and Blood
We see then that being born again
[spiritually is but a types and shadows of the things to come] means to spiritually die-repent, symbolically be buried-baptism, and spiritually rise again-receive the Holy Ghost. Thus, in plain language an individual must repent of his sins, be baptized into the name of Jesus Christ by immersion, and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[All things were and are created spiritually before they are created physically! And then all things are sanctified physically before they are spiritually by blood. The children of Yesrael were saved by the physical blood of the lambs in Egypt, and afterwords were spiritually save by the blood of the Lamb of G_d.] I John 5:8 tells us,
“And there are three that bear witness in the earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.”
What is the one thing in which the spirit
[Father, through the Holy Spirit], water
[Holy Ghost], and blood
[Only Begotten Son] agree? Is it not the new birth?
YES! Blood covers our sins at repentance; the waters of baptism wash them away
[This is a false doctrine! Was the sorcerer named Simon sins washed away? No! Because that is not when sins are forgiven.], thus making us clean for the spirit to come into our lives to dwell. When the Roman soldiers thrust the spear into Jesus’ side after he died, the scripture tells us that there came forth blood
[the Son] and water
[the Holy Ghost] (John 19:34). This was for cleansing of the nations. It takes blood and water
[or the Son and the Holy Ghost] to eradicate sin.
For the Son is the minister of mercy and comes as our advocate before His Father and Our Father and the Holy Ghost bears record of this truth.) Blood is the cleansing agent, and water is the flushing agent. When a jar is washed for canning, soap AND water are necessary to cleanse that jar so that it might
[MIGHT] be filled with good fruit. Likewise, blood and water are necessary to cleanse the human soul so that it may receive the spirit of Christ which is the
[Another Comforter* and NOT the] Holy Ghost. This teaching was verified by Peter when he said, “Repent and be baptized FOR the REMISSION of SINS” (Acts 2:38
You quote this as thou it is the complete version. It is the abbreviated version or short version as known steps were left out! I know you know what I am referring too, like Faith, Witnessing or Testifying, and Baptism by Fire and the Spirit, as well as the confirmation of receiving the Spirit by the imposition or laying on of hands). Repentance and baptism are both absolutely essential for the remission of sins!
Yes, but Faith must precede and come before true Repentance, just as ones water baptism must precede their baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost which only then brings a remission of sins. If one is baptized but they had no Faith in the Messiah prior to that Ordinance and received not the Holy Ghost afterwards, THERE IS NO REMISSION OF SINS!
* John Chapter 14:1-23, I will focus upon only one aspect of verses 15-23, for from just this one chapter alone, I could share doctrines with you for days...
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do [it].
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I [am] in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
It is a false notion that there was no Holy Ghost before the Messiah to guide men and teach them truth from error, for 4 millenniums! This would make G_d a respecter of persons, giving those born after the Messiah's life, preferential blessings. Those who lived before the Messiah's life, His prophets as they are the only accounts we have recorded in the scriptures, had the Holy Ghost.
Psalms Chapter 51
9 Hide thy face from my sins, and blot out all mine iniquities.
10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
Isaiah Chapter 63
7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD, [and] the praises of the LORD, according to all that the LORD hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.
8 For he said, Surely they [are] my people, children [that] will not lie: so he was their Saviour.
9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.
10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, [and] he fought against them.
11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, [and] his people, [saying], Where [is] he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where [is] he that put his holy Spirit within him?
Ephesians Chapter 1
9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; [even] in him:
11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
13 In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation [SAVED]: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed [Calling and Election] with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Matthew Chapter 1
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. [Now it is a false notion that the Messiah was fathered by the Holy Ghost, for the power of the Highest [El Elyon] shall overshadow thee! Or that anytime a women has the Holy Ghost come upon her, that she might conceive. However, it does show that the Holy Ghost did administer before the Messiah birth.]
Matthew Chapter 3
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:
Luke Chapter 1
13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb. [Hey He was Born Again before he was even born
Even before the Messiah's sacrifice! I think this is one of these scriptures here that clearly points out you need to admit you need to rethink your doctrine!]
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63 And he asked for a writing table, and wrote, saying, His name is John. And they marvelled all.
64 And his mouth was opened immediately, and his tongue [loosed], and he spake, and praised God.
65 And fear came on all that dwelt round about them: and all these sayings were noised abroad throughout all the hill country of Judaea.
66 And all they that heard [them] laid [them] up in their hearts, saying, What manner of child shall this be! And the hand of the Lord was with him.
67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,
68 Blessed [be] the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
Luke Chapter 2
25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name [was] Simeon; and the same man [was] just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.
26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.
27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law,
Luke Chapter 3
21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,
22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. [I'm sorry, I cannot help myself here... so if no one was able to be resurrected until the Messiah died, and there is only one G_d, then heaven was empty at this time because the Messiah was in mortal form upon the earth, and the Messiah was the greatest ventriloquist to ever lived? He bore witness of himself, which is an incorrect principle and he was able to appear in two places at once without the use of mirrors so those around him could see this dove shape spirit of himself descend down and rest upon his spiritless body? Right? And while on this point, just before or after the Messiah's birth, He was able to sound like a whole chorus of angels singing to the shepherds in the field. And as He was preparing to die upon the cross, He ask why He has forsaken Himself. I have read all the quotes and reasoning as to why some Faiths believe such, but have a perfect brightness of faith and the pure revelation of heaven, I declare to the ends of the earth, the Father and the Son are NOT one Being! If I had to rely on Man's opinion, verses my own revelations, there is no choice, I stand in the light and declare unto all of creation, that that doctrine IS not of G_D!]
Luke Chapter 4
1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, [So He was filled with Himself and lead Himself into the wilderness? Sound like were talking about a borderline case of split personality disorder... or just maybe what you believe is NOT scriptural, at least not how I read my Bible. Is the true nature of G_d totally unknown to most Christians? I am sorry to say, YES!]
I could go on but by the time I finish the New Testament, we would have ten more pages of quotes. I feel I have adequately made my point here.
When the Second or Another Comforter was needed, the Messiah came personally at times or sent other servants, up until the crucifixion, he could not administer in this spiritual at-one-ness. There was no need for Him to come to His Apostles while He was in the flesh upon the Earth, because He was with them. However, the Holy Ghost is not what the Messiah was talking about here! He was talking about himself coming and aboding with those who keep His commandments, whom love truth and can become one with the Spirit of Truth, even the Messiah who IS the Spirit of Truth, as He is one with His Father. This Spirit of Truth is the Second Comforter or Another Comforter, and it differs from the First Comforter or Holy Ghost, in how it communicates, feels when it is upon you and the enlighten of your mind. I have had the Holy Ghost from a very, very young age. I have memories as early as 3 years old in reflexion, I knew things by it at that age. I can recall also having the Holy Spirit or Second Comforter from a very young age. I specifically remember beginning to feels if often when I had arrived to the age of 12. It was at this time that the Holy Spirit started coming to me and I asked my mother and grandmother both about what it was, and neither of them knew what I was talking about. Over the years I grew to understand most people have not received such spirits, nor do they understand the different feelings or sensations that allows you to distinguish between these two spirits, the differences in their purposes of coming, who they were/are and why they come/came to me or to others. To quote the Messiah, “Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?” [John 3]
What was the Greek words that were translated 'Another Comforter'? 243 Allos and 3875 Parakletos. Allos means 'else' i,e, different, another. Parakletos means an intercessor, consoler:- advocate, comforter. Is the Messiah another Advocate as in there has been others in the worlds or creations before this one, and He is our Advocate? Yes He is. Is He our different or other comforter? Yes He is. How do I know this? It has been revealed to me, personally. How can you obtain this same witness? By receiving that self same spirit!
You have said many times, “If it is not in the Bible then were not sure if it will come to pass. But if it is in the Bible then it is Gospel, and it will come to pass.” I have show this is in the Bible, wherefore it is Gospel, and it did come to pass on the day of Pentecost. To paraphrase the Messiah, “Art thou a leading Pentecostal Minister, and knowest not these things? You should understand Pentecost like no others. They received the promised Second or Another Comforter on Pentecost, as the Messiah told them they should. And it was not the First Comforter or Holy Ghost, though that is what is recorded in Acts 2, but it was the Holy Spirit, which is also called the 'more sure word of prophecy', and by which one can obtain the spiritual witness of one future [or past] 'Calling and Election'. So just who are the 'Elect' whom are given Him, that the Messiah said He shall not loose one of them who were given Him? That is a topic for another Letter...
Paul taught that the three steps of Calvary was the gospel that we should preach. In I Corinthians 15:1-4 he tells us,
“Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the GOSPEL which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I have preached unto you, unless ye have BELIEVED IN VAIN. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ DIED for our sins according to the scriptures
[Faith in the Messiah]; And that he was BURIED, and that he ROSE AGAIN the third day according to the scriptures:”.
[That we too shall die, be buried and rise again!]
Obey the Gospel
Paul went on the say in II Thessalonians 1:7-8,
“And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels. In flaming fire
[Eternal Burnings] taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Paul told us that
[1 FAITH in] the gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. How can we OBEY the death, burial, and resurrection? By
2 repentance,
3 baptism, and
4 receiving the Holy Ghost
[Sounds like four steps to me! Three that require works and one where the Father ratifies and excepts our offering by Grace, through Fire and the Holy Ghost] as we have previously explained. Notice that the Lord Jesus is to appear “in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel.” It is absolutely necessary for every human being to obey the gospel by being BORN AGAIN
[through flaming fire]. Jesus told Nicodemus, “Ye MUST be BORN AGAIN” (John 3:7).
[The point here is when the Messiah appears and changes this world into a fire based world, if you are not 'Born Again, changed in a twinkling of an eye from flesh to spirit, from mortal to immortal, that fire will consume you!]
Old Testament Speaks of Born Again Plan
Let us consider another Biblical lesson given to us concerning this subject. The Bible teaches us that the things of the Old Testament were types and shadows of the things to come.
Aman Brother, far more than you know, if you really understood Hebrew and their allegorical traditions. When the priests of the law ministered by offering sacrifices, there were three major steps to their duties.
Repentance
First they slew the animal to be offered on the brazen altar. The blood here was shed and caught in a container for use in the Holy Place. The flesh of the animal was to be consumed by fire. This teaches us of the first step of salvation-repentance. When we repent, we present our bodies a living sacrifice, and our sins are covered by the blood of Jesus.
I do not disagree, I however see more here and a few things slightly different. Everything we are must one day be placed upon the altar of G_d. Our Blood is our testimony that that Son (our Father) shall places before His Father, and our flesh or wickedness must be shed and burned. I know you will have issues in how I am wording it here, but please have peace in your heart at this time, for I have faith you will in time come to see the truths I am sharing with you, if you will but have enough faith of your own that the Holy Spirit will manifest it once you understand it clearly and pray for a witness of whether it is of G_d and true, or not, IT SHALL BE MANIFESTED unto you, I have HIS WORD UPON IT. I am not contradicting the Bible, I am only contradicting the interpretations you have been taught, as to what it means when it says different terms or how doctrines work or what undefined truths are! I have faith in you Brother, more than you know. I have ask the Father concerning you and your spiritual ability as to whether you are able to learn anything new and embrace them, or if you are like the proverbial old dog, unable to learn anything new. You are a good man. You have been a big fish in the little pond far to long. Time to find out how it feels to swim in deep waters, and see what the world does not see, to hear and understand things hidden from the foundations of the earth until these end times.
Water Baptism
After the shedding of blood, the priests were ordered to wash at the laver and to cleanse themselves with water in preparation for entering the Holy Place. The laver, a round fountain-like structure, was overlaid in the bottom with a looking glass. When the priests bent over to wash, he was able to see himself so that he could be sure that he was clean. When an individual is baptized, he should examine himself to be sure that he is leaving the world behind once and for all. We see then that the second step of the tabernacle ministration plainly teaches us of water baptism. Blood
(the Son) and water
(the Holy Ghost) cleansed them to prepare them for entry into the Holy Place (the Holy Spirit, presence of the Father)
, even as blood
(or Son) and water
(or Holy Ghost) cleanses us in preparation of receiving the Holy One
(the Holy Spirit of the Eternal Father) into our lives! I heard you once preach that you should baptize in the NAME of Jesus Christ. In Matthew 28 we find, “19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” Because you think these are all the same being, you use the 'given name'. But I tell you of a truth, you do not know who the Father is, nor His name. Even the Messiah had a name before the foundations of this earth, He was Uriel, King of the Air, and is one of the Archangel of this creation. And there is no Christian denomination who even knows what the Holy Ghost is, not to mention any possible title that might be use as a name. Does it matter that a name be mentioned in preference over a title or calling? No, that does not matter, what does matters is that the administrations is acknowledge by the heavens!
The Holy Ghost and Fire
After cleansing, the priest would then take the fire from off of the brazen altar and would enter through the veil into the Holy Place. The Holy Place had no doors or windows through which light could come. The only light to be provided here was to come from the golden candlesticks
[the Seven Archangels]. These candlesticks consisted of seven wicks fed by oil from seven bowls
[or Vials, the seven visitation of the Day Star Planet]. The wicks had to be lit with the fire brought by the priest [the Great Jehovah, the Eighth Archangel, whom the Messiah stands in His office in the temporal realm] from the brazen altar
[before the throne of G_d]. The uniting at the candlesticks of the oil and fire to produce light is a perfect type of the
Holy Ghost and fire promised to New Testament believers (Matthew 3:11)
but more correctly interpreted the Dispensation Kings (Presidencies) that come down the dawn the Dispensation with power and great glory' In other places, it takes about the Two Candlesticks, pillars in the temple, and the latter day witnesses that will come to Jerusalem and prophesy. Without the light (their light) of the Holy Ghost (these beings [Adam/Michael, Noah/Gabriel, Moses/Jerahmeel, Yeshua/Uriel, Yosef/Raguel, Daved/Sariel, and Enoch/Raphael), we could not
SEE to live
[ENTER] in the Holy Place which is where every Christian should live. God spoke of His great plan of redemption in the Old Testament in types and shadows; and then in the New Testament He spoke plainly to us so that we would have no doubt of His will! Once again we recall the words of 1 John 5:8, “There are three that bear witness in the earth, the SPIRIT
(the Father), the WATER
(the Holy Ghost), and the BLOOD
(the Son); and these three agree
[Unit] in one
[purpose]”. This Old Testament lesson beautifully reaffirms to us the absolute necessity of the full Born Again plan in each life for salvation!
That is like saying, ALL Truths are found herein, even though it is written in a language you cannot hardly pronounce a few words of or read, and no one can be found that can read it for you. Salvation is one of the pre-steps that leads one to being born again, and is tied to water baptism and the true baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost but it has nothing to do with being BORN AGAIN in the earth at this time. Yes however it is true, you must one day be born of thee Spirit, being born of Water and of the Blood to SEE heaven.
Some Common Misconceptions
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ
Acts 16:30-31 reads this way, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Many have taken this scripture to teach that all that is required for salvation is to believe that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world; and from that point on, the individual is saved.
Saving by grace is a false doctrine! Salvation comes by the grace of G_d as we do not deserve it, yet we are saved through the keeping of the sayings of His Son and faith in them both! It is definitely true that an individual must believe that Jesus is the Savior in order to be saved.
Aman! However, Paul, who spoke these words in Acts 16, has some further teaching on the subject in Romans 10:13-15. Let’s consider the text: “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him OF WHOM they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Through the written word or the Holy Spirit, or both! And how shall
they preach, except
they be sent?”
Both of them! If we wanted to be absurd, we could take this thirteenth verse to teach that all an individual must do for salvation is to call out the name of Jesus one time and he has received salvation. Paul tells us they can’t call on him in whom they have not believed. Furthermore, he said that they can’t believe in him OF WHOM they have not heard. We cannot merely believe. We must believe SOMETHING about Christ. When Paul told the jailer in Acts 16 to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, he went on to speak unto him the word of the Lord (verse 32). The word which Paul spake was apparently the GOSPEL; for the result in verse 33 was that the jailer and all his house were baptized at midnight. That’s how essential baptism is for salvation.
Aman, and baptism is but one step in that narrow path, that leads to eternal life. Paul took all these people out AT MIDNIGHT and baptized them!
Faith Made Perfect
Some would object here by saying that we are saved by faith alone. It is true that we are saved by faith, but it is also true that true faith always produces action on the part of the believer.
We are in absolute agreement here! Let’s study from James 2:14-22 to verify this point.
“What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or a sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works; shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is on e God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works IS DEAD? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thus how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?”
When an individual believes on the Lord Jesus Christ, what do they believe about him? They believe the gospel, which is the death, burial, and resurrection (I Corinthians 15:1-4). James teaches us that faith without action is dead, or it is not really faith at all. When a sinner hears the true gospel and truly believes, he will obey the gospel. An individual obeys the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ by repentance, baptism, in Jesus’ name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost, evidenced by speaking with other tongues. (Write for our free booklet “Tongues-Devilish or Divine”). This is the salvation of Calvary! “Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?” (or complete).
Not By Works
If you are still having trouble conceding to this teaching because of the element of works involved, let’s reason concerning one more point. Being born again-repentance, baptism, and receiving the Holy Ghost is not considered by God to be a work. In Titus 3:5 we are taught, “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration
[by fire], and the renewing of the Holy Ghost;”. This scripture tells us that regeneration which is being born again is NOT a work of righteousness.
It is by the mercy or grace we are able to be redeemed, after we have shown forth faith and desire by obedience. For can you earn Salvation? NO! It can only come by His grace... yet if you have no fruits worthy of His grace, you fail the test and are cast out. It is in the coming forth that you are Born Again!
Concluding this matter, we will cite a familiar Biblical example. In the great revival at Samaria in Acts 8:5-23, a sorcerer named Simon heard the preaching of Philip. He believed and was baptized and continued with Philip beholding the signs and miracles which were done. Many people would say that because Simon believed, he was saved. Yet the Apostle Peter said of him in Acts 8:23, “For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.” The same could have been said of Judas, he had been Baptized by the Messiah, and believed yet the Messiah said of him, he hath devil in him.
It is impossible for anyone in the bond of iniquity to be saved; for the scriptures tell us, “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed” (John 8:36). Simon believed and was baptized, but he had not received the Holy Ghost; therefore, he was not born again
[saved]. We cannot be half-born and survive
(Just born of water! Aman). The entire work of Calvary is necessary for our salvation.
Aman! But if you are saying salvation as in qualifying you to SEE and ENTER the kingdom of G_d, this was and is not had even after one is saved! You must be 'Born again' just as the Messiah said! Simon had no salvation because he had not been saved... Simon did not receive the remission of his sins by a water baptism, in similitude of his water birth. The baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, 'Is in similitude of ones own fire birth which must come in the world to come. Those who are thus born are considered 'Light Bearers', 'Sons of the Morning', members of the church of the First Born, because they were born in the Morning of the First Resurrection. How is this so? Because this creation is a one room schoolhouse, and not everyone here is in the same grade
Are you where the Messiah was and is upon that path of Eternal Progression? Not yet my Brother.
The Thief on the Cross
Many have asked, “If an individual must repent, be baptized, and receive the Holy Ghost for salvation, how was the thief on the cross with Jesus saved?” (Luke 23:38-43). First of all, it was impossible for anyone to be born again at this time, for the born again plan was not yet complete.
How can you teach such an indifference in two different plans for salvation, when we all know G_d is no respecter of persons? I tell you of a truth that ALL must be saved by faith and obedience to the very same principles as all others or this saying cannot be true! Jesus had not died, been buried, and risen again. God has always had a plan of salvation for each dispensation of time.
So Salvation must be separate from Born Again, as salvation must be upon the same principle. Born Again must not be here in this age, if all must receive such. The Messiah was the first to rise, braking the bands of death in this creation. That is but the first step needed to make being Born Again possible. In Noah’s day the only way of salvation was to get in the ark.
Not true! Most of the righteous were raptured (Caught) up unto Zion in Noah's day, because of their faith and obedience. G_d commanded that eight souls remain to Arch (Arc) over to this realm to establish to next Estate of Creation. In Moses’ day the only plan was the law. No again, Moses and Aaron received their salvation and exaltation which came (they were translated or quickened) from among all those in the wilderness because of their faith and obedience to G_d. How did salvation come to the common Israelite in Moses's day? By the very same way, by faith and obedience, being baptism by water, and then by fire and and Holy Ghost. In the church dispensation, the only way to be saved is to be born again. No, this again is not true. Only by one faith and obedience, being baptism by water, and then by fire and and Holy Ghost! Jesus told Nicodemus, “Ye MUST be Born Again.” G_d being no respecter of persons, He must save ALL upon the very same principles, otherwise He is a respecter of persons [Acts 10:34]. They all had the same ordinances and principles of salvation. Apostasy from the truth and corrupt men have hidden this truth from most people. We must all, from the beginning of time, until the end of time be saved by the very same principles... And yes, we MUST all be Born Again or we can in no wise see or enter the kingdom of G_d. But those who would not repent will remain in the grave until the end of time, to the Second Resurrection, and will be Born Again at the very end to come forth and be judged at the judgment bar of G_d, before the end comes. The will see heaven and G_d in that day, before they are cast down to hell. I do not speak of the Sons of Perdition who shall die the second death, and rise no more thereafter.
Conclusion
May we point out as we conclude this study that we have been given the first
(actually it is the fourth church behind Adam's church among his posterity before the flood, Noah's church through Abraham or the Patriarch's church and Moses's church) church and the Apostles
(who stand in for the heads of the twelve tribes) after which to pattern our teaching and practices. In each recorded account of conversions under the Apostles’ ministries, the three steps of being born again
[actually four steps to being SAVED] are evident. In Acts 2:38,
(1 faith [which Paul omits here], 2) it was repentance
(3) baptism
(an outward sign of one repentance), and
(4 baptism by fire and the spirit for the gift of) the Holy Ghost.[,]
(and then IF a baptism of fire ensues and was recorded), and they begin to speak in tongues or prophesy, then do you have an outpouring [infilling] of the Holy Ghost). In Acts 8:12, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:1-6, we find the born again experience taught
[ordinances of salvation taught] and
[the real baptism and remission of sin] received. Why should we vary from this practice when we are to be built on the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone? Do not allow anything to turn you aside from this truth-You must be
[Saved by the saving ordinances of both baptisms unto salvation, with the hope of one day being] BORN AGAIN. If you haven’t as yet, you should do so TODAY!
(With the proper understand, Aman, yes... But if you do not get that outward manifestation, it does not mean you are not saved. If you get that manifestation, it does not mean you are Born Again, at that time it is impossible. You may have been Born Again from the world before, or even a few worlds before [for a few]. However you need to do so again, to see and enter the kingdom and presence of G_d!
Brother Irvin, we shall now read (all of John 3) the rest of what the Messiah said to Nicodemus about being 'Born Again', and explain it unto the children of men, so that we are not quoting the Messiah out of context. Comments are added in brackets.
“There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews [kingdom of Judah]: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old [How does this Born Again Doctrine work]? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born [more then once]? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh [first birth]; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit [second birth]. Marvel not that I said unto thee [Nicodemus], Ye must be born again [or born twice]. The wind bloweth where it listeth [wills or desires, from the Greek 'thelo' or 'ethelo' G2309], and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so IS every one that IS born of the Spirit [Not SHALL BE (future) as you teach, but IS as in it was already a reality, a Doctrine that the Messiah was chiding Nicodemus for not already knowing!]. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our [my] witness. If I have told you [about] earthly things [Water Birth and Born Again by a Spirit Birth in the Millennial world], and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things [such as beings who have already been Born Again and are yet born of women again and are among you]? And no man hath ascended up to heaven [in the flesh0, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in [from] heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him [me] should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him [me] should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him [me] might be saved. He that believeth on him [me] is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the NAME [Salvation] of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light [which equals Truth which equals Divine Spirit] is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God [that ye may one day become a divine spirit, and one with such (not in some part of the whole as in one G_d, but in perfect UNITY].”
ALL men who are born of flesh are flesh (carnal and devilish), the Messiah alone was born of the Spirit and His spirit is one with the Spirit of G_d. Those who are born of spirit are spirit and can SEE and ENTER heaven, just as he declared He had. Has any other beings upon this planet been 'Born Again' here by being reborn of spirit here? NO, not in this world! Can mortals SEE and ENTER the kingdom of G_d or heaven? NO! Those who are quickened or translated, like Noah and Shem, Moses and Aaron, Elijah, and a few others (and as most likely John the Beloved), they can and did SEE and ENTER the kingdom of G_d or heaven? YES, but only into the lower heavens. IF you are not teaching this doctrine of being 'BORN AGAIN'... To be born Mortal and then reborn Immortal [even though it is said one born of such, has eternal live, even though it is not life eternal until you are quicken or twinkled a second time in the Millennial realm, which many receive but will lay those bodies down for a greater hope of a better resurrection in the worlds to come], you are NOT teaching the true understanding of the Doctrine of Eternal Life or Born Again! And you have not even began to comprehend the Doctrine of Eternal Lives, and having in ignorance (not wholly accountable on your part) you even taught against this true doctrine of the eternal realms!
If the true doctrine of 'Born Again' is not being revealed and you are teaching a mislabeling of a different doctrine, the doctrine of Salvation, for this is clearly evident as no one is currently being Born Again and SEEING and ENTERING the kingdom of G_d, you are building upon a foundation of sand and preaching to others to do the same! I fear that when the correct doctrine of the kingdom IS taught in the coming dispensation (that will be established by the Two Witnesses), it may become a stumbling block unto you and others you have taught such for yourselves and your followers. However, in your defense I commend you for you are trying to grasp at the doctrine of the Baptism of Fire and of the Spirit, for the remission of Sins. And for that I congratulate you for it is the key element missing in the teachings of the Doctrine of Messiah (Christ) found among most Christian faiths.
My Brother, though it may seem that I am making this doctrine endlessly plain to prove your teaching is incorrect, and you think I am doing this because of some personal ego issue in myself, or to make less of your life's mission (which you are doing!) or to in any way shake your testimony in your ability to receive revelation upon this mystery of the kingdom of G_d, I AM NOT WISHING TO DO THAT IN THE LEST!!! But because there are things you have made foundational to your beliefs and teachings like 'Born Again', and I believe with every fiber of my being and know by the revelations of heaven that this was done unintentionally, that you have just improperly mislabeled this doctrine with another doctrine because the true doctrine of 'Born Again', has never been revealed to you yet, I am writing you in all sincere with the hope that you ponder this, consider it, seek for this knowledge and receive your own revelation upon the subject. And even then it really would not matter that much, that I should go out of my way to share it it so forcefully with you, except you are planting the seeds that could potentially mislead millions one day and gives them false hope of an unreceived blessing. Whereby I feel compelled to share these things with you, and have receive permission by the Holy Spirit to do so.
Peace be unto you Brother Irvin,
KoZ