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Re: Archaeology: City of David and Temple Mount

Posted: March 22nd, 2018, 8:11 am
by DesertWonderer2
Kingdom of ZION wrote: March 21st, 2018, 10:28 pm
DesertWonderer2 wrote: March 21st, 2018, 10:56 am The Jews can’t build a REAL temple. Only The Church has authority to build REAL temes. The Jews may build a building that could cause tensions to start WWIII however.
So where are the Son of Levi going to offer an offering in righteousness, and remove the Aaronic Priesthood from the LDS Church? Joseph Smith-History 1:69

???Just wondering???

I doubt very highly that it is going to be in the Bronx's in a little synagogue, where they will start offering animal sacrifices! :roll:

Cross reference that verse with the following: D&C 128:4, 84:31 and 124:39.

You’ll see that it has already happened. Just not exactly as you think it would.

Re: Archaeology: City of David and Temple Mount

Posted: March 22nd, 2018, 1:45 pm
by EdGoble
DesertWonderer2 wrote: March 21st, 2018, 7:54 pm
EdGoble wrote: March 21st, 2018, 3:26 pm
DesertWonderer2 wrote: March 21st, 2018, 10:56 am The Jews can’t build a REAL temple. Only The Church has authority to build REAL temes. The Jews may build a building that could cause tensions to start WWIII however.
That's not the only scenario.
Another one is for the Jews to build the temple as their structure first, and for the Church to dedicate it later on in the Millennium as a real temple.
And yet another is for the Jews to build this one, and the Church to build a separate structure in Jerusalem later.
Or, yet even another, for the Jews to build their temple which would remain Jewish, and for the Church to dedicate the BYU Jerusalem center after remodeling it as a temple. The idea that the BYU Jerusalem center could ever be an LDS temple has had a lot of pushback from the Church to squash it as a rumor, but it still nevertheless remains one of the most plausible options.

In the end you are right that whatever happens, the LDS must have a temple in Jerusalem. I am just skeptical that that the LDS must have one as a fulfillment of a specific prophecy for the second coming to occur. For that, at the very least, the Jews must have one, but it doesn't have to be dedicated as an actual temple by actual priesthood at that time.
You can scratch off your list one of those options. The Y’s Jerusalem center will never be converted to a temple. Guess how I know that. Its because Julie Rowe said that she saw exactly that in one of her visions. Proof enough for me that it WON’T happen: if she “saw” it it can’t possibly be true.
LOL. On the one hand, I share your skepticism about Julie Rowe in general. On the other hand, if it does turn out to be so, it won't be because Julie Rowe said it would for sure.

Re: Archaeology: City of David and Temple Mount

Posted: March 22nd, 2018, 3:09 pm
by marc

Re: Archaeology: City of David and Temple Mount

Posted: March 22nd, 2018, 4:53 pm
by Kingdom of ZION
DesertWonderer2 wrote: March 22nd, 2018, 8:11 am
Kingdom of ZION wrote: March 21st, 2018, 10:28 pm
DesertWonderer2 wrote: March 21st, 2018, 10:56 am The Jews can’t build a REAL temple. Only The Church has authority to build REAL temes. The Jews may build a building that could cause tensions to start WWIII however.
So where are the Son of Levi going to offer an offering in righteousness, and remove the Aaronic Priesthood from the LDS Church? Joseph Smith-History 1:69

???Just wondering???

I doubt very highly that it is going to be in the Bronx's in a little synagogue, where they will start offering animal sacrifices! :roll:

Cross reference that verse with the following: D&C 128:4, 84:31 and 124:39.

You’ll see that it has already happened. Just not exactly as you think it would.
A few of the quotes did not even apply, 84:31 was a real stretch... Here is a article a person wrote on what 84:31-34 is talking about... https://whatimthinkingabout.wordpress.c ... c-8431-50/

I think you are overlooking the point that when Levites make this offering, that it will remove the Aaronic Priesthood, from the LDS Church! Let me put it another way, since you probably never looked up the scriptures quotes on the first post.

The Fullness of the Time of the Gentile was to come forth in the End Times... wallah, Mormonism, and by extension, the LDS Church. And when the Time of the Gentiles has come in, the Gospel will be restored unto the house of Yesrael. That is what is meant by the First shall be Last, and The Last shall be First. Also, the natural and wild olive branches, spoken about in Jacob and Hebrews, points to this very thing. If you have not studied this and are not interested, that's fine. We will just disagree on who is going to build the Temple(s) in Jerusalem and the New Jerusalem ;)

Re: Archaeology: City of David and Temple Mount

Posted: March 23rd, 2018, 10:59 am
by DesertWonderer2
Kingdom of ZION wrote: March 22nd, 2018, 4:53 pm
DesertWonderer2 wrote: March 22nd, 2018, 8:11 am
Kingdom of ZION wrote: March 21st, 2018, 10:28 pm
DesertWonderer2 wrote: March 21st, 2018, 10:56 am The Jews can’t build a REAL temple. Only The Church has authority to build REAL temes. The Jews may build a building that could cause tensions to start WWIII however.
So where are the Son of Levi going to offer an offering in righteousness, and remove the Aaronic Priesthood from the LDS Church? Joseph Smith-History 1:69

???Just wondering???

I doubt very highly that it is going to be in the Bronx's in a little synagogue, where they will start offering animal sacrifices! :roll:

Cross reference that verse with the following: D&C 128:4, 84:31 and 124:39.

You’ll see that it has already happened. Just not exactly as you think it would.
A few of the quotes did not even apply, 84:31 was a real stretch... Here is a article a person wrote on what 84:31-34 is talking about... https://whatimthinkingabout.wordpress.c ... c-8431-50/

I think you are overlooking the point that when Levites the Aaronic Priesthood, from the LDS Church! Let me put it another way, since you probably never looked up the scriptures quotes on the first post.

The Fullness of the Time of the Gentile was to come forth in the End Times... wallah, Mormonism, and by extension, the LDS Church. And when the Time of the Gentiles has come in, the Gospel will be restored unto the house of Yesrael. That is what is meant by the First shall be Last, and The Last shall be First. Also, the natural and wild olive branches, spoken about in Jacob and Hebrews, points to this very thing. If you have not studied this and are not interested, that's fine. We will just disagree on who is going to build the Temple(s) in Jerusalem and the New Jerusalem ;)
The scripture doesn't say anything like that but I realize this is your theological bias.

Re: Archaeology: City of David and Temple Mount

Posted: March 23rd, 2018, 11:57 am
by Kingdom of ZION
DesertWonderer2 wrote: March 23rd, 2018, 10:59 am
Kingdom of ZION wrote: March 22nd, 2018, 4:53 pm
DesertWonderer2 wrote: March 22nd, 2018, 8:11 am
Kingdom of ZION wrote: March 21st, 2018, 10:28 pm

So where are the Son of Levi going to offer an offering in righteousness, and remove the Aaronic Priesthood from the LDS Church? Joseph Smith-History 1:69

???Just wondering???

I doubt very highly that it is going to be in the Bronx's in a little synagogue, where they will start offering animal sacrifices! :roll:
Cross reference that verse with the following: D&C 128:4, 84:31 and 124:39.

You’ll see that it has already happened. Just not exactly as you think it would.
A few of the quotes did not even apply, 84:31 was a real stretch... Here is a article a person wrote on what 84:31-34 is talking about... https://whatimthinkingabout.wordpress.c ... c-8431-50/

I think you are overlooking the point that when Levites the Aaronic Priesthood, from the LDS Church! Let me put it another way, since you probably never looked up the scriptures quotes on the first post.

The Fullness of the Time of the Gentile was to come forth in the End Times... wallah, Mormonism, and by extension, the LDS Church. And when the Time of the Gentiles has come in, the Gospel will be restored unto the house of Yesrael. That is what is meant by the First shall be Last, and The Last shall be First. Also, the natural and wild olive branches, spoken about in Jacob and Hebrews, points to this very thing. If you have not studied this and are not interested, that's fine. We will just disagree on who is going to build the Temple(s) in Jerusalem and the New Jerusalem ;)
The scripture doesn't say anything like that but I realize this is your theological bias.

Here let us read it together... https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1.69?lang=eng

69 Upon you my fellow servants, in the name of Messiah, I confer the Priesthood of Aaron, which holds the keys of the ministering of angels, and of the gospel of repentance, and of baptism by immersion for the remission of sins;
and this shall never be taken again from the earth until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness.

Your the one just a few posts above that was trying to say it had already happened! If that was true, the LDS Church would have no Aaronic Priesthood right now! Fortunately, it has not happened yet, but it will! John, the Baptist happens to know a little about the lessor Priesthoods, and when he is sent as an Angel and Messenger for G_d to restore Priesthood, we might want to listen up and believe what he says.

The Aaronic Priesthood will never be taken again from the earth UNTIL [not UNLESS or IF or BY CHANCE] the Sons of Levi DO [not MAY or MIGHT] offer AGAIN [what did they do before? Sacrifices!] an offering unto the Lord in righteousness.

This is stated in the D&C as well as in the Hist of the Church, and in the PoGP (quoted above), word for word in each account. It is not a mistranslation, misquote or some off the cuff third person random quote... When this happens, the LDS Church will no longer have any need for Bishops, and if they want to have one, they will need to seek out a literal Levite to preside for them.

I am not going to be holding my breathe for that one :lol: