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The Wasatch Wake Up. We are now about two years past her failed prediction.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 6th, 2018, 9:30 pm
Please give me one instance in which she claimed something would definitely happen at a certain time and then it didn't.
When did she say it would occur?mirkwood wrote: ↑April 6th, 2018, 10:23 pmThe Wasatch Wake Up. We are now about two years past her failed prediction.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 6th, 2018, 9:30 pm
Please give me one instance in which she claimed something would definitely happen at a certain time and then it didn't.
Start on page one of this thread and start reading. Or do a search for Wasatch wakeup on this forum. Her failed date(s) have been exposed multiple times in multiple threads.
That's funny, I've never heard her give a date and I'm pretty sure I've heard and read everything she has said and written for the public over the last few years.
Could you be more specific. What exactly should she be excommunicated for?DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑January 5th, 2018, 5:29 pm I have a number if random thought regarding JR specifically but they pertain generally to SM,Sosa, Spencer and now there is a new guy on the scene (sorry forgetting his name right now)
One of her motivations is money and gains this through energy healimg, book sales, DVD sales, preparedness conferences, begging for donations for her “charity” and she even makes personal request for cash mostly to older men who she tells that they are to be or were in the pre existence spiritual spouses. WOW. The other motivators for her are that she craves the attention from and the power she gets over her followers. These are powerful stimulants
There is no doubt that she has mental problems. Her breakdowns on the radio, Narcissism, pathological lying are all symptoms of this. From her podcast that describes her life as a child I think she unknowingly let us know the root of her mental health issues and I feel very sorry for her if what I suspect is correct.
Because she is generally fairly coherent, there is more going on here than mental health issues I think. She claims that she has been visited by many spirits, translated and resurrected beings and satan even spoke to her. HOPEFULLY this is all severe debilitating mental issues—if not than she truly is engaged with evil spirits. My best guess is that she has open herself to evil spirts through the satanic practice of energy healing.
I’ve kept up on her podcasts and I must say that I’m really surprised that she hasn’t been excommunicated. The shear amount if false doctrine that she and Eric (who is the “brains” behind the whole operation) preach is both staggering in terms of quantity how damaging it is. She now preaches reincarnation, that The Brethern are pharasees and sadduces, that she will be a member of the first presidency of the Terrestrial church, she hinted that she is Jesus’ Queen in the millenium, that she “condescended” like Christ did here for her mission, that she and Eric have truth that TCOJCOLDS doesn’t have...seriously I’m just scratching the surface of the evil that is in her podcasts. In fact she pulled her original podcast #49 because it caused such a stir w her followers that they were theatening to leaver her over it’s contents. Oh how I wish that I listened to that nefore it got pulled! Did anybody hear it. Details Please!
I supose the only reason she hasn’t been X’ed is bc of her mental health issues. You cant X someone that is crazy, right? However bc she has deceived and damages so many, for their sake, it seems that she needs to be X’ed just to protect the weak that she prey upon.
Somebody above said a temple recorder recorded her visions—I can guarantee that that is not true. For starters that’s not what a temple recorder job is.
The good news is that since E Ballard roasted her in gen conf, the number of views to her podcasts have dropped significantly.
Indeed. It reminds me of Grug in the Croods who screams, attacks and smashes anything new because new is dangerous and we should always live in fear of everything. That seems to be the logic behind Julie's detractors. Anyone who has actually studied her words knows there is only light. She basically just says, "Follow the Prophet. Pray to know for yourself."Spaced_Out wrote: ↑January 6th, 2018, 6:51 pmThere is no darkness in those books. or false doctrine...GrandMasterB wrote: ↑January 6th, 2018, 5:52 pm I also believe she had the experiences she has. I do believe they are coming from Satan and his followers. Like having Joan of Arc visit her. Some guy that she just calls John. These are manifestations of familiar spirits. She probably opened the doorway with the energy healing priestcrafts.
14 Wherefore, take heed, my beloved brethren, that ye do not judge that which is evil to be of God, or that which is good and of God to be of the devil.
15 For behold, my brethren, it is given unto you to judge, that ye may know good from evil; and the way to judge is as plain, that ye may know with a perfect knowledge, as the daylight is from the dark night.
16 For behold, the Spirit of Christ is given to every man, that he may know good from evil; wherefore, I show unto you the way to judge; for every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and gift of Christ; wherefore ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God.
17 But whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do evil, and believe not in Christ, and deny him, and serve not God, then ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of the devil; for after this manner doth the devil work, for he persuadeth no man to do good, no, not one; neither do his angels; neither do they who subject themselves unto him.
18 And now, my brethren, seeing that ye know the light by which ye may judge, which light is the light of Christ, see that ye do not judge wrongfully; for with that same judgment which ye judge ye shall also be judged.
Sadly, apostasy.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 1:56 pmCould you be more specific. What exactly should she be excommunicated for?DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑January 5th, 2018, 5:29 pm I have a number if random thought regarding JR specifically but they pertain generally to SM,Sosa, Spencer and now there is a new guy on the scene (sorry forgetting his name right now)
One of her motivations is money and gains this through energy healimg, book sales, DVD sales, preparedness conferences, begging for donations for her “charity” and she even makes personal request for cash mostly to older men who she tells that they are to be or were in the pre existence spiritual spouses. WOW. The other motivators for her are that she craves the attention from and the power she gets over her followers. These are powerful stimulants
There is no doubt that she has mental problems. Her breakdowns on the radio, Narcissism, pathological lying are all symptoms of this. From her podcast that describes her life as a child I think she unknowingly let us know the root of her mental health issues and I feel very sorry for her if what I suspect is correct.
Because she is generally fairly coherent, there is more going on here than mental health issues I think. She claims that she has been visited by many spirits, translated and resurrected beings and satan even spoke to her. HOPEFULLY this is all severe debilitating mental issues—if not than she truly is engaged with evil spirits. My best guess is that she has open herself to evil spirts through the satanic practice of energy healing.
I’ve kept up on her podcasts and I must say that I’m really surprised that she hasn’t been excommunicated. The shear amount if false doctrine that she and Eric (who is the “brains” behind the whole operation) preach is both staggering in terms of quantity how damaging it is. She now preaches reincarnation, that The Brethern are pharasees and sadduces, that she will be a member of the first presidency of the Terrestrial church, she hinted that she is Jesus’ Queen in the millenium, that she “condescended” like Christ did here for her mission, that she and Eric have truth that TCOJCOLDS doesn’t have...seriously I’m just scratching the surface of the evil that is in her podcasts. In fact she pulled her original podcast #49 because it caused such a stir w her followers that they were theatening to leaver her over it’s contents. Oh how I wish that I listened to that nefore it got pulled! Did anybody hear it. Details Please!
I supose the only reason she hasn’t been X’ed is bc of her mental health issues. You cant X someone that is crazy, right? However bc she has deceived and damages so many, for their sake, it seems that she needs to be X’ed just to protect the weak that she prey upon.
Somebody above said a temple recorder recorded her visions—I can guarantee that that is not true. For starters that’s not what a temple recorder job is.
The good news is that since E Ballard roasted her in gen conf, the number of views to her podcasts have dropped significantly.
If you've read back through this and still believe that you are in denial.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 1:50 pm
That's funny, I've never heard her give a date and I'm pretty sure I've heard and read everything she has said and written for the public over the last few years.
Got a specific quote?DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 2:14 pmSadly, apostasy.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 1:56 pmCould you be more specific. What exactly should she be excommunicated for?DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑January 5th, 2018, 5:29 pm I have a number if random thought regarding JR specifically but they pertain generally to SM,Sosa, Spencer and now there is a new guy on the scene (sorry forgetting his name right now)
One of her motivations is money and gains this through energy healimg, book sales, DVD sales, preparedness conferences, begging for donations for her “charity” and she even makes personal request for cash mostly to older men who she tells that they are to be or were in the pre existence spiritual spouses. WOW. The other motivators for her are that she craves the attention from and the power she gets over her followers. These are powerful stimulants
There is no doubt that she has mental problems. Her breakdowns on the radio, Narcissism, pathological lying are all symptoms of this. From her podcast that describes her life as a child I think she unknowingly let us know the root of her mental health issues and I feel very sorry for her if what I suspect is correct.
Because she is generally fairly coherent, there is more going on here than mental health issues I think. She claims that she has been visited by many spirits, translated and resurrected beings and satan even spoke to her. HOPEFULLY this is all severe debilitating mental issues—if not than she truly is engaged with evil spirits. My best guess is that she has open herself to evil spirts through the satanic practice of energy healing.
I’ve kept up on her podcasts and I must say that I’m really surprised that she hasn’t been excommunicated. The shear amount if false doctrine that she and Eric (who is the “brains” behind the whole operation) preach is both staggering in terms of quantity how damaging it is. She now preaches reincarnation, that The Brethern are pharasees and sadduces, that she will be a member of the first presidency of the Terrestrial church, she hinted that she is Jesus’ Queen in the millenium, that she “condescended” like Christ did here for her mission, that she and Eric have truth that TCOJCOLDS doesn’t have...seriously I’m just scratching the surface of the evil that is in her podcasts. In fact she pulled her original podcast #49 because it caused such a stir w her followers that they were theatening to leaver her over it’s contents. Oh how I wish that I listened to that nefore it got pulled! Did anybody hear it. Details Please!
I supose the only reason she hasn’t been X’ed is bc of her mental health issues. You cant X someone that is crazy, right? However bc she has deceived and damages so many, for their sake, it seems that she needs to be X’ed just to protect the weak that she prey upon.
Somebody above said a temple recorder recorded her visions—I can guarantee that that is not true. For starters that’s not what a temple recorder job is.
The good news is that since E Ballard roasted her in gen conf, the number of views to her podcasts have dropped significantly.
There is a difference between what someone has said and what someone else believes that person meant. What's the date? Where's the quote? I'm not finding one at the source.mirkwood wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 3:28 pmIf you've read back through this and still believe that you are in denial.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 1:50 pm
That's funny, I've never heard her give a date and I'm pretty sure I've heard and read everything she has said and written for the public over the last few years.
You're welcome to read something I wrote up in 2014 detailing evidence I found on AVOW, of her making things up. She made predictions for 2014 that never came true. https://www.docdroid.net/negu/red-flags.odtThe Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 1:50 pmThat's funny, I've never heard her give a date and I'm pretty sure I've heard and read everything she has said and written for the public over the last few years.
Read the two posts above this one.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 6:43 pm
There is a difference between what someone has said and what someone else believes that person meant. What's the date? Where's the quote? I'm not finding one at the source.
Most all of her podcasts contain material that is apostate in nature. I gave a few examples above.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 6:42 pmGot a specific quote?DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 2:14 pmSadly, apostasy.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 1:56 pmCould you be more specific. What exactly should she be excommunicated for?DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑January 5th, 2018, 5:29 pm I have a number if random thought regarding JR specifically but they pertain generally to SM,Sosa, Spencer and now there is a new guy on the scene (sorry forgetting his name right now)
One of her motivations is money and gains this through energy healimg, book sales, DVD sales, preparedness conferences, begging for donations for her “charity” and she even makes personal request for cash mostly to older men who she tells that they are to be or were in the pre existence spiritual spouses. WOW. The other motivators for her are that she craves the attention from and the power she gets over her followers. These are powerful stimulants
There is no doubt that she has mental problems. Her breakdowns on the radio, Narcissism, pathological lying are all symptoms of this. From her podcast that describes her life as a child I think she unknowingly let us know the root of her mental health issues and I feel very sorry for her if what I suspect is correct.
Because she is generally fairly coherent, there is more going on here than mental health issues I think. She claims that she has been visited by many spirits, translated and resurrected beings and satan even spoke to her. HOPEFULLY this is all severe debilitating mental issues—if not than she truly is engaged with evil spirits. My best guess is that she has open herself to evil spirts through the satanic practice of energy healing.
I’ve kept up on her podcasts and I must say that I’m really surprised that she hasn’t been excommunicated. The shear amount if false doctrine that she and Eric (who is the “brains” behind the whole operation) preach is both staggering in terms of quantity how damaging it is. She now preaches reincarnation, that The Brethern are pharasees and sadduces, that she will be a member of the first presidency of the Terrestrial church, she hinted that she is Jesus’ Queen in the millenium, that she “condescended” like Christ did here for her mission, that she and Eric have truth that TCOJCOLDS doesn’t have...seriously I’m just scratching the surface of the evil that is in her podcasts. In fact she pulled her original podcast #49 because it caused such a stir w her followers that they were theatening to leaver her over it’s contents. Oh how I wish that I listened to that nefore it got pulled! Did anybody hear it. Details Please!
I supose the only reason she hasn’t been X’ed is bc of her mental health issues. You cant X someone that is crazy, right? However bc she has deceived and damages so many, for their sake, it seems that she needs to be X’ed just to protect the weak that she prey upon.
Somebody above said a temple recorder recorded her visions—I can guarantee that that is not true. For starters that’s not what a temple recorder job is.
The good news is that since E Ballard roasted her in gen conf, the number of views to her podcasts have dropped significantly.
I am not.Mcox wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 8:00 pm Air bender, are you Julie Rowe???
In the spring of 2016, Julie said the earthquake was imminent. The definition is “likely to occur at any moment; impending.”
It’s now spring 2018. She was wrong. Her prediction didn’t come true. Poor girl. But if you want to continue to believe this poor deluded woman, that’s your choice.
The shear amount if false doctrine that she and Eric (who is the “brains” behind the whole operation) preach is both staggering in terms of quantity how damaging it is. She now preaches reincarnation, Multiple Mortal Probations, no people becoming trees here. And this idea was not presented to humanity for the first time before. Others believed it before she mentioned it. I had it revealed to me by the spirit before I ever heard the name, Julie Rowe. that The Brethern are pharasees and sadducesDesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 11:19 pmMost all of her podcasts contain material that is apostate in nature. I gave a few examples above.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 6:42 pmGot a specific quote?DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 2:14 pmSadly, apostasy.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 1:56 pm
Could you be more specific. What exactly should she be excommunicated for?
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[color=#0000FF]she never once has referred to the 1st Presidency or Quorum of the 12 in this manner, as you are implying. She might mention BYU professors and maybe some bishops and Stake presidents l, but even then I don't think she was that specific. She just said that we are living in the days of the Pharisees and Sadduces. [/color]All your 16 pages really point out is that she is human and has a hard time remembering when she was shown different things. I don't remember what I had for dinner last night. I can't tell you when I had certain dreams unless I look up the date in my journal, and only if I actually wrote it down when I had it. but I can remember what happened in the dream and how it relates to other dreams I've had and what I learned from it.Sarah wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 9:26 pmYou're welcome to read something I wrote up in 2014 detailing evidence I found on AVOW, of her making things up. She made predictions for 2014 that never came true. https://www.docdroid.net/negu/red-flags.odtThe Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 1:50 pmThat's funny, I've never heard her give a date and I'm pretty sure I've heard and read everything she has said and written for the public over the last few years.
A thousand thank you's for finding and sharing that talk!DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 11:48 pm A fantastic talk by Elder Holland about the last days. It is a very differnt message than JR gives.
https://www.lds.org/ensign/2007/07/this ... s?lang=eng
The Airbender wrote: ↑April 8th, 2018, 8:41 amAll your 16 pages really point out is that she is human and has a hard time remembering when she was shown different things. I don't remember what I had for dinner last night. I can't tell you when I had certain dreams unless I look up the date in my journal, and only if I actually wrote it down when I had it. but I can remember what happened in the dream and how it relates to other dreams I've had and what I learned from it.Sarah wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 9:26 pmYou're welcome to read something I wrote up in 2014 detailing evidence I found on AVOW, of her making things up. She made predictions for 2014 that never came true. https://www.docdroid.net/negu/red-flags.odtThe Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 1:50 pmThat's funny, I've never heard her give a date and I'm pretty sure I've heard and read everything she has said and written for the public over the last few years.
As far as giving timeframes, I can assuredly say that I felt urgency from the spirit to be prepared for the timeframes she gave. She didn't give hard dates, though. But our whole family has been blessed because of her timely warnings.
Correct.Sarah wrote: ↑April 8th, 2018, 10:04 pmThe Airbender wrote: ↑April 8th, 2018, 8:41 amAll your 16 pages really point out is that she is human and has a hard time remembering when she was shown different things. I don't remember what I had for dinner last night. I can't tell you when I had certain dreams unless I look up the date in my journal, and only if I actually wrote it down when I had it. but I can remember what happened in the dream and how it relates to other dreams I've had and what I learned from it.Sarah wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 9:26 pmYou're welcome to read something I wrote up in 2014 detailing evidence I found on AVOW, of her making things up. She made predictions for 2014 that never came true. https://www.docdroid.net/negu/red-flags.odtThe Airbender wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 1:50 pm
That's funny, I've never heard her give a date and I'm pretty sure I've heard and read everything she has said and written for the public over the last few years.
As far as giving timeframes, I can assuredly say that I felt urgency from the spirit to be prepared for the timeframes she gave. She didn't give hard dates, though. But our whole family has been blessed because of her timely warnings.
You must have not read very carefully. Here's what she wrote Jan. 24, 2014 on AVOW when she started the thread, “Prepare for Mid-Feb/March Time Frame.” She say this:
“I continue to have dreams and very strong impressions (of most recent which started last September) - that in mid February, starting the second week - but particularly getting very difficult in the third week of February and into March - there are some very difficult days ahead for many. I am specifically speaking about some seriously wicked actions by those in power who are planning and preparing to attempt several wicked acts....specifically pertaining to biological and chemical destructive actions which will affect many people.”
And then in a later post in the same thread she says,
“Look for VERY VERY high food prices to come - especially late Spring and really hitting us hard in produce and meat come the summer time. Food safety will be a real serious issue, which includes the water safety issue - in addition to what these wicked people are doing purposefully, we will also see food prices skyrocket and food and water resources limited due to the droughts and famine. (Not to mention the swine flu, affecting pork - already high and will be increasingly higher prices in beef - and also contamination from the Japanese nuclear waste that has been spreading through the ocean and radiating seafood - and then the possibility of bird flu affecting the poultry industry.”
We did not see biological and chemical actions in the spring of 2014 as she predicted, that resulted in “very very high food prices”, particularly meat and poultry going up late spring/summer. Swine flu? No. Bird flu? No
I see this pack of liars is still posting their crap, over-and-over again, so I suppose I will have to respond, once again:
What in the world does this post have to do with Julie Rowe?oklds wrote: ↑April 12th, 2018, 9:20 amI see this pack of liars is still posting their crap, over-and-over again, so I suppose I will have to respond, once again:
NOT TRUE. Shawn Littlebear did NOT 'convert' me. I converted myself, and my Family. If you want the whole story, go to the OKLDS group on my facebook page.
That bogus blog site got this started back in 2015, by a member's post which was more-or-less true. As soon as Elder Porter verified that those were the real thing, and unaltered, the rest of the 'gang of 4' got working on 'conferences', 'firesides', etc. 11 of them visited me at my home trying to get copies of those sheets. They rented some huge hall/auditorium/whatever at UVU(?) and told me they could sell 50,000 tickets. When they put a pack of lies in their advertising, I backed out. Oddly enough, they could have sold that many tickets, and we could have gotten the money to start extracting artifacts last year, and I wouldn't have read a pack of lies about all of this (and they would have gotten rich, but that's beside the point).
Another person convinced some supposed billionaire that he could get them from me for $200K. I don't know if that Brother paid it, but he DID NOT get these sheets.
When I backed out, they posted a page full of lies on that blog, then had the owner close the blog thread so I could not reply. I then got deluged by texts and posts impugning my honor, my name, my parentage and the very Church itself.
Almost EVERYTHING you have heard about those sheets is a lie. PERIOD. Not to be obstreperous, but there are 4 people (2 of whom are non-members) who have spent 4 years on recovering those sheets.
NO ONE has paid them a dime for their efforts, nor has anyone offered to so do.
NO ONE has actually offered to help transport those sheets (except to their own 'facilities').
NO ONE has tried to look into this beyond the rumor stage, nor contacted any of the people actually involved.
Anyone else got any questions or comments?: [email protected] I do NOT hide behind aliases, nor is there any pretense about me, nor do I scare easy, and I don't embarrass at all. A couple of other things which I should make clear:
1. Bruce Porter (the one still alive) had NOTHING to do with inspecting nor certifying these sheets.
2. The true story is still here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MORMONBOX/
3. I am not related to Ashley nor Naomi Judd.
You may be unaware, but Julie Rowe did give a date for the Wasatch Wakeup earthquake one time--(but it's long past) it was discussed on this thread:The Airbender wrote: ↑April 6th, 2018, 10:50 pmWhen did she say it would occur?mirkwood wrote: ↑April 6th, 2018, 10:23 pmThe Wasatch Wake Up. We are now about two years past her failed prediction.The Airbender wrote: ↑April 6th, 2018, 9:30 pm
Please give me one instance in which she claimed something would definitely happen at a certain time and then it didn't.
There was another person on that thread who also said this happened and we know that Julie left Pathway to Zion after her failed prediction and she lost a number of her supporters at that time. The date was back in the beginning of May 2016.User avatarSummerwind
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Re: Hector Sosa/Julie Rowe Update.
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Postby Summerwind » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:46 am
I know a little about what sparked that. I know that 3 members screenshotted her predicting a day and down to the minute for the earthquake... it was taken down quickly but it sparked a lot of talk once these screens hots hit other groups on Facebook. She felt betrayed and panicked that there was proof of her failure. She likes to claim people constantly threaten her life, but that's the paranoia speaking. She's not that important or threatening to anyone.