Denver Snuffer's Remnant scripture project and covenant

[Seek the Truth]

Personally I would repent and ask for readmittance into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

[underdog]

Personally I would repent and ask for readmittance into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

New wine requires new bottles.

[Seek the Truth]

Not according to Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith said there would be no new dispensation of the gospel. His was the last, and it endure till the end.

You are in violation of revealed truth. You are in apostasy. See my sig.

[underdog]

#:-s #:-s #:-s

Lol. Who are you to declare when Jesus opens doors or not.

You guys are antiChrist.

What specifically do you say we teach is anti Christ?

I declare the precept that the Brethren can't lead you astray to be anti Christ. That is provable.

Antichrist means a person or force seen as opposing Christ.

Christ will never lead us astray.

Man can and does.

To say any man will not is therefore antichrist.

To assert the Lord will control a man to the point of not allowing him to mislead people also is antichrist as the Lord doesn't compel obedience.

I've identified just one of many antichrist teachings of mainstream Mormons (Brethrenites, if you will).

Now, whatcha got? What can you point to of Denver's teachings to substantiate your assertion that he or the Remnant is antiChrist?

[underdog]

Not according to Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith said there would be no new dispensation of the gospel. His was the last, and it endure till the end.

You are in violation of revealed truth. You are in apostasy. See my sig.

Wrong.

Joseph said:

"It is in the order of heavenly things that God should always send a new dispensation into the world when men have apostatized from the truth and lost the priesthood.”

This is a basic Mormon tenant which missionaries have taught the world over for decades. You reject it because it doesn't fit your false tradition. The Jews did the same thing. History repeats. You believe you are immune. Pride goes before the fall.

[Seek the Truth]

#:-s #:-s #:-s

Lol. Who are you to declare when Jesus opens doors or not.

You guys are antiChrist.

What specifically do you say we teach is anti Christ?

I declare the precept that the Brethren can't lead you astray to be anti Christ. That is provable.

Antichrist means a person or force seen as opposing Christ.

Christ will never lead us astray.

Man can and does.

To say any man will not is therefore antichrist.

To assert the Lord will control a man to the point of not allowing him to mislead people also is antichrist as the Lord doesn't compel obedience.

I've identified just one of many antichrist teachings of mainstream Mormons (Brethrenites, if you will).

Now, whatcha got? What can you point to of Denver's teachings to substantiate your assertion that he or the Remnant is antiChrist?

You have no basis whatseover to tell anyone when Jesus does or does not open any doors, as you plainly did. You claim power you do not have. You are a usurper.

Joseph Smith teaches that there is no salvation without a legal administrator in the flesh. Denver teaches you do not need a legal administrator in the flesh. His teaching is leading people down the road to hell, and is antichrist.

[Seek the Truth]

Not according to Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith said there would be no new dispensation of the gospel. His was the last, and it endure till the end.

You are in violation of revealed truth. You are in apostasy. See my sig.

Wrong.

Joseph said:

"It is in the order of heavenly things that God should always send a new dispensation into the world when men have apostatized from the truth and lost the priesthood.”

This is a basic Mormon tenant which missionaries have taught the world over for decades. You reject it because it doesn't fit your false tradition. The Jews did the same thing. History repeats. You believe you are immune. Pride goes before the fall.

Joseph Smith was clear as was Jesus Christ in the D&C. Josephs dispensation was to be the last and it would endure till the end. See my sig.

You are in violation. You have rejected the teachings of Joseph Smith and Jesus Christ.

Repent and be saved, I implore you.

[underdog]

#:-s #:-s #:-s

Lol. Who are you to declare when Jesus opens doors or not.

You guys are antiChrist.

What specifically do you say we teach is anti Christ?

I declare the precept that the Brethren can't lead you astray to be anti Christ. That is provable.

Antichrist means a person or force seen as opposing Christ.

Christ will never lead us astray.

Man can and does.

To say any man will not is therefore antichrist.

To assert the Lord will control a man to the point of not allowing him to mislead people also is antichrist as the Lord doesn't compel obedience.

I've identified just one of many antichrist teachings of mainstream Mormons (Brethrenites, if you will).

Now, whatcha got? What can you point to of Denver's teachings to substantiate your assertion that he or the Remnant is antiChrist?

You have no basis whatseover to tell anyone when Jesus does or does not open any doors, as you plainly did. You claim power you do not have. You are a usurper.

Joseph Smith teaches that there is no salvation without a legal administrator in the flesh. Denver teaches you do not need a legal administrator in the flesh. His teaching is leading people down the road to hell, and is antichrist.

Days ago Denver just legally administered the Latter-day covenant to all believers in the covenant.

Just as I thought and as you prove time and again your answer is *crickets* when it comes to justify your reckless assertion that we are antiChrist.

Crickets.

[Seek the Truth]

In contradiction to his teachings. That's the whole thing you guys have contradicted yourselves fatally.

You are leading souls away from Christ.

[Jesef]

I don't think you're anti-Christ in the literal sense of that term. You and Denver and all the Remnant are definitely for-Christ. Just as many, many Christians and LDS are. Meaning you (as well as we) are firm believers in Christ and his core teachings and His atoning power, etc.

What is at issue is really a question of authority. It really boils down to that. You're claiming Denver now has it - that he's a Divinely authorized true messenger, prophet, mouthpiece, representative, and even dispensation head. You're claiming that he has authority from God/Christ to administer a valid covenant from/with God/Christ. You're also, at the same time (because of Denver's claims and teachings), claiming that the LDS Church & Brethren lost their divine authority. So it's a competition of authoritative claims, in which each side can accuse the other side of being illegitimate, imposters, corrupt, deceivers, un-authorized, rejected, pretenders, wolves, etc. - and that's what people mean by saying "anti-Christ" in this context: pretending to represent Christ (when one or the other actually does not, or both do not). Who has the keys? Who has the scepter? Who is really chosen of the Lord to speak for him?

[Seek the Truth]

I just checked D&C 76, your covenant is not mentioned as needed for entry into the Celestial Kingdom.

You are adding to the gospel and putting a man between you and Christ, in violation of your own teachings.

You are in violation of your own teachings, and the teachings of Christ and Joseph Smith. Repent, and be saved.

[underdog]

In contradiction to his teachings. That's the whole thing you guys have contradicted yourselves fatally.

You are leading souls away from Christ.

You don't have much credibility when everything Denver does is point to Christ and Zion.

Trusting in men (Brethren who can't lead you astray) leads away from Christ.

[underdog]

I just checked D&C 76, your covenant is not mentioned as needed for entry into the Celestial Kingdom.

You are adding to the gospel and putting a man between you and Christ, in violation of your own teachings.

You are in violation of your own teachings, and the teachings of Christ and Joseph Smith. Repent, and be saved.

DC 84 says the church is under condemnation for treating the covenant of the BoM lightly and failing to remember it and the former commandments.

So we are actually IN CONFORMANCE with Christ's teachings. We aren't adding anything. You are very confused.

Go ahead and have the last word. Good night.

[Seek the Truth]

In contradiction to his teachings. That's the whole thing you guys have contradicted yourselves fatally.

You are leading souls away from Christ.

You don't have much credibility when everything Denver does is point to Christ and Zion.

Trusting in men (Brethren who can't lead you astray) leads away from Christ.

Zion is a place where this is:

6 We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

You don't even believe in it. You point away from Christ and Zion to another gospel.

[Seek the Truth]

I just checked D&C 76, your covenant is not mentioned as needed for entry into the Celestial Kingdom.

You are adding to the gospel and putting a man between you and Christ, in violation of your own teachings.

You are in violation of your own teachings, and the teachings of Christ and Joseph Smith. Repent, and be saved.

DC 84 says the church is under condemnation for treating the covenant of the BoM lightly and failing to remember it and the former commandments.

So we are actually IN CONFORMANCE with Christ's teachings. We aren't adding anything. You are very confused.

Go ahead and have the last word. Good night.

Lol the covenant you took is nowhere in scripture. You added to the gospel. You are leading people from Christ.

[underdog]

I don't think you're anti-Christ in the literal sense of that term. You and Denver and all the Remnant are definitely for-Christ. Just as many, many Christians and LDS are. Meaning you (as well as we) are firm believers in Christ and his core teachings and His atoning power, etc.

What is at issue is really a question of authority. It really boils down to that. You're claiming Denver now has it - that he's a Divinely authorized true messenger, prophet, mouthpiece, representative, and even dispensation head. You're claiming that he has authority from God/Christ to administer a valid covenant from/with God/Christ. You're also, at the same time (because of Denver's claims and teachings), claiming that the LDS Church & Brethren lost their divine authority. So it's a competition of authoritative claims, in which each side can accuse the other side of being illegitimate, imposters, corrupt, deceivers, un-authorized, rejected, pretenders, wolves, etc. - and that's what people mean by saying "anti-Christ" in this context: pretending to represent Christ (when one or the other actually does not, or both do not). Who has the keys? Who has the scepter? Who is really chosen of the Lord to speak for him?

You may know a false messenger when he keeps pointing to his supposed credentials/ keys/ authority to get followers. DC 121 explains unrighteous dominion and by this "key" you may know the pretenders.

[Seek the Truth]

Also your man made covenant was not administered legally.

[Seek the Truth]

I don't think you're anti-Christ in the literal sense of that term. You and Denver and all the Remnant are definitely for-Christ. Just as many, many Christians and LDS are. Meaning you (as well as we) are firm believers in Christ and his core teachings and His atoning power, etc.

What is at issue is really a question of authority. It really boils down to that. You're claiming Denver now has it - that he's a Divinely authorized true messenger, prophet, mouthpiece, representative, and even dispensation head. You're claiming that he has authority from God/Christ to administer a valid covenant from/with God/Christ. You're also, at the same time (because of Denver's claims and teachings), claiming that the LDS Church & Brethren lost their divine authority. So it's a competition of authoritative claims, in which each side can accuse the other side of being illegitimate, imposters, corrupt, deceivers, un-authorized, rejected, pretenders, wolves, etc. - and that's what people mean by saying "anti-Christ" in this context: pretending to represent Christ (when one or the other actually does not, or both do not). Who has the keys? Who has the scepter? Who is really chosen of the Lord to speak for him?

You may know a false messenger when he keeps pointing to his supposed credentials/ keys/ authority to get followers. DC 121 explains unrighteous dominion and by this "key" you may know the pretenders.

Joseph Smith had no problem telling people he was a Prophet of God. One of the tenets of Snufferism is that the modern apostles are apostate because they no longer proclaim those things. Almost every thing you say is a contradiction.

[Thomas]

I have said it before and I will say it again. It is same arguments the Catholic Church made against Martin Luther. Authority, keys, who's the boss and all that and it doesn't matter what the scriptures say. Close to a billion of them still think the Pope holds the authority so you are in good company

[Seek the Truth]

Now as another group that sort of claims sort of doesn't, you are now in the same boat. But you apparently don't understand that. You now are simply one of many groups claiming keys, that all is finally well in your zion.

Lack of self awareness is also another Snufferite trait.

[underdog]

Now as another group that sort of claims sort of doesn't, you are now in the same boat. But you apparently don't understand that. You now are simply one of many groups claiming keys, that all is finally well in your zion.

Lack of self awareness is also another Snufferite trait.

The whole keys argument is way overblown. I don't see the remnant giving any thought to keys. It's the LDS Mormons and the Catholics who are consumed with that.

[Arenera]

Now as another group that sort of claims sort of doesn't, you are now in the same boat. But you apparently don't understand that. You now are simply one of many groups claiming keys, that all is finally well in your zion.

Lack of self awareness is also another Snufferite trait.

The whole keys argument is way overblown. I don't see the remnant giving any thought to keys. It's the LDS Mormons and the Catholics who are consumed with that.

What do the remnant give thought to? Fighting against the Church...

[Seek the Truth]

Now as another group that sort of claims sort of doesn't, you are now in the same boat. But you apparently don't understand that. You now are simply one of many groups claiming keys, that all is finally well in your zion.

Lack of self awareness is also another Snufferite trait.

The whole keys argument is way overblown. I don't see the remnant giving any thought to keys. It's the LDS Mormons and the Catholics who are consumed with that.

Yep. Any church not consumed with it is an antiscriptural church. Keys are fundamental to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith.

Thanks for admitting that.

[underdog]

Now as another group that sort of claims sort of doesn't, you are now in the same boat. But you apparently don't understand that. You now are simply one of many groups claiming keys, that all is finally well in your zion.

Lack of self awareness is also another Snufferite trait.

The whole keys argument is way overblown. I don't see the remnant giving any thought to keys. It's the LDS Mormons and the Catholics who are consumed with that.

What do the remnant give thought to? Fighting against the Church...

This is a mandate from God:

DC 123

12 For there are many yet on the earth among all sects, parties, and denominations, who are ablinded by the subtle bcraftiness of men, whereby they lie in wait to cdeceive, and who are only kept from the truth because they dknow not where to find it—

13 Therefore, that we should waste and awear out our lives in bringing to light all the bhidden things of darkness, wherein we know them; and they are truly manifest from heaven—

14 These should then be attended to with great aearnestness.

15 Let no man count them as small things; for there is much which lieth in futurity, pertaining to the saints, which depends upon these things.

[Seek the Truth]

You should try to bring to light the scriptural teachings of KEYS and the mandates associated with them.