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3 Ne. 20: 28 (27-28).
28 And they shall be a scourge unto the people of this land. Nevertheless, when they shall have received the fulness of my gospel, then if they shall harden their hearts against me I will return their iniquities upon their own heads, saith the Father.

D&C 6: 31.
31 But if they reject not my words, which shall be established by the testimony which shall be given, blessed are they, and then shall ye have joy in the fruit of your labors.

3 Nephi 16:7 Behold, because of their belief in me, saith the Father, and because of the unbelief of you, O house of Israel, in the latter day shall the truth come unto the Gentiles, that the fulness of these things shall be made known unto them.

8 But wo, saith the Father, unto the unbelieving of the Gentiles—for notwithstanding they have come forth upon the face of this land, and have scattered my people who are of the house of Israel; and my people who are of the house of Israel have been cast out from among them, and have been trodden under feet by them;

9 And because of the mercies of the Father unto the Gentiles, and also the judgments of the Father upon my people who are of the house of Israel, verily, verily, I say unto you, that after all this, and I have caused my people who are of the house of Israel to be smitten, and to be afflicted, and to be slain, and to be cast out from among them, and to become hated by them, and to become a hiss and a by-word among them—

10 And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.

11 And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them.

12 And I will show unto thee, O house of Israel, that the Gentiles shall not have power over you; but I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fulness of my gospel.

13 But if the Gentiles will repent and return unto me, saith the Father, behold they shall be numbered among my people, O house of Israel.

14 And I will not suffer my people, who are of the house of Israel, to go through among them, and tread them down, saith the Father.

15 But if they will not turn unto me, and hearken unto my voice, I will suffer them, yea, I will suffer my people, O house of Israel, that they shall go through among them, and shall tread them down, and they shall be as salt that has lost its savor, which is thenceforth good for nothing but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of my people, O house of Israel.

16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, thus hath the Father commanded me—that I should give unto this people this land for their inheritance.

17 And then the words of the prophet Isaiah shall be fulfilled which say:
18 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing, for they shall see eye to eye when the Lord shall bring again Zion.

19 Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem; for the Lord hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem

20 The Lord hath made bare his holy arm in the eye of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of God.

Bruce Wydner wrote: LIES

One of the most bitter sadnesses that is encountered, as the Scriptures that our Father in Heaven has restored and made available to His children on the Earth in the Latter Days, is the information in relation to how the Enemy of Mankind, Satan, cheats so many of the Lord’s children out of the Main Blessing that all of us “shouted for joy, Job 38:7,” for, when we were told that we were going to be able to come to this Earth and be given the “opportunity” to attain that Joy. That Joy was that the “eternal part” of each of us, the Everlasting Intelligence, that is the eternal part of each one of us, was to have the opportunity here to seek the Lord’s TRUTH, and, by then living by it, to have it so that our Everlasting Intelligences are able to “be with” our Heavenly Father’s Perfect Everlasting Intelligence, forever.

In 1 Corinthians 15:40-41 Paul teaches:

40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

In D&C 76 our Father in Heaven provides us with information on these Three Degrees of Glory, these Three “Kingdoms.”

In D&C 76:103-104 some information is provided to us about those who are “defeated” by Satan into committing the Sins that block our Father in Heaven’s children from returning, to be with Him, and, instead, being condemned to that lowest Kingdom, the Telelestial Kingdom. In verse 104 we learn about those who commit the Sins named in verse 103:

104. These are they who suffer the wrath of God on earth.

However, in addition to those very sad Sins, that are mentioned in verse 103, which the readers of the Scriptures have always heard will condemn those who commit them to the punishment of being in that lowest of the Three Kingdoms in the Next World, in the condition where they will have none of the contact, at all, with their Father in Heaven that we all shouted for Joy for the opportunity to have, there are two Sins that are mentioned in verse 103 which show how so much of Satan’s efforts works, which “cheats” so many of the Members of the Human Family out of their being able to be with their Heavenly Father. The specification of some of those Sins, which are among those which condemn Members of the Human Family to that lowest Kingdom, is information about what many Christians feel are awful Sins, to the point that they merit the condemnation that is mentioned in these Scriptures. However, in D&C 76:103 that mentioning of those awful Sins concludes with: “… and whosoever loves and makes a lie.”

It seems that so many people that one speaks with are of the opinion of how “Lies” dominate so much of the activities of Mankind. And, it seems that so many of them incline to the opinion that “whosoever … makes a lie” is deserving of very serious punishment. But, the question that we are now considering is the punishment that goes to those of Mankind who are describable as “whosoever loves … a lie.”

With so many people of the opinion of how “Lies” dominate so much of the activities of Mankind, it is only understandable that people, in general, would appreciate the presentations of information to them that indicate which of the things that are presented to them are Lies, so that they can be esteemed as such, in their minds, and can be regarded as being no more than only the worthless Lies that they are. Being regarded as being nothing at all more than the worthless Lies that they are makes it so that their estimation of worthlessness, in the attitudes of a person, makes it so that that person, indeed, cannot be considered, “whosoever loves a lie,” as regards that particular Lie.

Therefore, it is thought that it would be with gratitude from people, in general, when they are provided with the information which shows them how it is that certain items of generally present information are not True but are only Lies.

With that having been said, a comment that some might come up with is, “I wonder what it is that is the Biggest Lie in The World?”


The Biggest Lie in The World


If, in the year 2008, some people were asked, “Do you think that Communism was the Biggest Lie in The World?” there could be many kinds of replies.

When, for Decades, throughout the Cold War, the Soviet Union was threatening the USA with “Mutually Assured Destruction,” through launching against us their Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, loaded with their Hydrogen Bomb Warheads, it might have been that a large percentage of the people of the USA might have felt that the Worthless Aims of Communism made it so that it was a villain of that magnitude. However, today, with the Soviet Union having been in the “junk pile” of the abandoned “plots” that it has been in for Decades, now, many may now think of the Soviet Union as only being the “junk” that so many people now think that it was.

However, the Country of China, with the Largest Population in the World, of some 1.3 Billion persons, is still ruled by Communism. And, by holding those 1.3 Billion persons in the slavery that it holds them in, Communist China gets to cheat so many of the other Countries of the current World out of Employment, for their inhabitants, by the competition against them of the starvation level of wages which Communist China pays to its population that has been enslaved into Communism.

Thinking about that, along with the horrible memory of the Soviet Union, many might feel that, “Yes, I think that maybe the Lie of Communism might be able to rank being up there among, ‘the World’s Most Rotten Lies.’”


For someone who might chance to think that way, the question might be raised, “And, where did that Most Rotten Lie of Communism come from?”

A ready reply to that is commonly, “Well, Karl Marx had come up with that name, along with the Plot, and his description of, ‘Communism,’ by the time when he printed his Book, ‘Das Kapital.’”

And, the reply to that is, “Yes, that is so.” However, the next question after that is, “And, in Das Kapital, where does Karl Marx say that Communism comes from?”

The response to that is, it seems, from almost everybody, “I have never been told anything about that.”

In Das Kapital, where Karl Marx asserts that the Entire World needs to become involved in the Revolution of Communism, to “throw off” Capitalism [speaking in reference to the First French Revolution ― where, for the first time, all of France was divided up into the Ancient, Ancestral Germanic “Townships” that all German-speaking Countries, Scandinavian Countries, England and Scotland etc. have always been divided into, and that France is still divided up into, which French Revolution “Townships” were named, “Communes,” using the Medieval Roman Catholic name for those Ancient, Ancestral Townships of the Nordic Race ― but which Assertion applied to the Russian Revolution etc., as well, since it was later copied there, in Russia, and in other places] and change over to Communism, he follows up that Assertion, there, in Das Kapital, in relation to that subject of those Revolutions, with his Statement that, “ALL REVOLUTION COMES FROM THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION!”


So, at hearing this for, perhaps, the first time, that the Author of Communism, Karl Marx, said that ALL Revolutions (the First and the Second French “Communism” Revolutions, but also the later Russian and Chinese etc. Communist Revolutions) come FROM THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, an American might begin to wonder, perhaps for the first time, “Where, in America, did that Lie come from?” If an American should ask him/her self that, there is another question that can go along with it. It is, “Is this Lie, that it is said, ‘comes from America,’ the Biggest Lie in The World?” “If it is, then, where in America did it come from?” “WHAT, EXACTLY, WAS IT THAT KARL MARX WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE SAID, ‘ALL REVOLUTION COMES FROM THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION’?”


The American Revolution


In the 1,000-page Course there are many pages of information on the Details of the American Revolution. Here we will only consider its “essence.”

When Columbus first came to the “West Indies Islands” he felt that he had come to the East Indies. In those days Mohammedanism had just, at last, been driven back out of Spain, after the centuries of the warfare wherein the Mohammedans had been attacking Spaniards. Mohammedanism, at that time, was controlled by the Mongols/Moguls who were the Emperors of India and who controlled Eurasia-Africa, from the west of the Sahara Desert, across the north of Africa, the Middle East, India and out to the Islands of the East Indies. Because Columbus felt that those American Islands were controlled by the Enemies of Christianity, the Mongol/Mogul Emperors of India, he and the other Spaniards named the Inhabitants of the Americas, “Indians.” And, as being among those former Invaders of Spain, who had just recently been driven out, to let recently recovered parts of Spain become parts of a Christian Land again, the Spaniards adopted the outlook that all of these “Indians” had lost all of their former, possessions, which, from then on, were going to be the property of Christian Spaniards.

That Lie has remained in place until this time, even though, a few years after Columbus, Magellan sailed around Cape Horn, across the Pacific Ocean and to India. From that time on all Spaniards have realized that the Native Americans are not Indians and that they were completely innocent of anything that Indians from India had done in attacking Spain. However, the Spaniards have persisted in their “theft” of the Ancestral Lands and possessions of the Native Americans until this time.


Since the Middle Ages there have been two entirely different Cultures in Europe. One is the Ancestral Culture of the Nordic Race, originally from Northern Europe. The other is “Romanesque” Feudalism, a Medieval creation, from Italy and France, wherein, in an attempt to keep the Babylonian Mediterranean Culture in existence, in a military competition with the unpaid Knighthood Cavalries, that were invented by the Township Yeomanries (militias) of the Nordic Race, that Mediterranean Culture tried to combat that Nordic Culture with Cavalries that were paid for with the control over Land and over the populations that lived on those Lands.

[In relation to what is being presented here, there has been a thought that has been presented that is related to it. That thought could be presented, in relation to this overall subject of, “Lies,” as that of: an overall, “Sin of Mankind is believing the Lies that are told to people by those who get and keep control over them.”] Modern Americans know that Feudalism was characterized by all of the Lies that it was based on from its beginning. In the process of producing so many of those Lies, though, Feudalism also managed to almost completely erase, from the memories of the People who are descended from the Nordic Race, where it was that their Nordic Culture came from.

Feudalism launched a War against the Nordic Culture, that had begun “protesting” against it, in 1618. That “Thirty Years War” lasted until 1648. Although much of the Nordic Culture was destroyed by that War, much of European Feudalism was also destroyed along with it, in that War. As that War began raging in Europe the, then, comparatively small “London Fishing Navy” saw an opportunity to grow by a more significant utilization of one of the World’s Most Productive Fisheries, The Grand Banks Fishery, from the 40th to the 48th Parallels, off of the East Coast of the North America Continent, to which the London Fishing Navy gave their name of, “New England.”
The London Fishing Navy was operated by the London “Guild” that had the name, “the London Fishmongers Guild.” Social Scientists know that the Leadership of what the Nordic Race had always called its, “Free” Enterprise System, was, historically, led by the “Guilds” of the Nordic “Commonwealths” of Nordic Europe. Feudalism is, essentially, dead today. However, while it operated, it operated on the Lie that it was, originally, established by Jesus Christ. The Nordic Race, from ancient times, has associated its Ancient Nordic word, “Free,” with its other Ancient Nordic word, “Gospel.” As the Thirty Years War raged, principally in Northern Germany, “the English Civil War” began in England. The Ancient Commonwealth of London, led by its Ancient Nordic Guild System, led the Commonwealth side of the English Civil War that defeated and, essentially, destroyed Medieval Feudalism out of England, thereafter.

The way that the Commonwealth of London has always operated, from Ancient Times, is that every boy there who wants to grow up to be a London Free Man [such as are the 500,000 current London Free Men whose London Bond Market operates as the basis of the Financial Values that the Central Banks of the Countries of the World operate on today] needs to compose “a Written Constitution” for his Life’s Work, in the Guild in which he wishes to work when he is grown. The “Articles” of that Written Constitution are called, “the Articles of Apprenticeship” of that boy preparing to be able to work in that Guild. The Commonwealth of London operates around its Ancient Christian Temple, wherein it has always been its Law that no one who is associated with Feudalism is ever allowed to enter. [As in the years shortly after 450 AD, when the Anglo-Saxon builders of the Christian Temple of London first built one there, so it has continued until today, that no one who is opposed to the “Free” Nordic Culture of the Free Men of London is allowed to enter the Commonwealth of London. In the Middle Ages there was a large “Barricade” beside the Temple that “barred” all Feudalists from ever entering into the Commonwealth of London. Till this day the Monarch of England must halt at “Temple Bar” and, while holding on to the Sword of the Lord Mayor of London, recite a prescribed Oath to the Lord Mayor, before being permitted access to pass beyond Temple Bar and into the Commonwealth of London. Since an affiliation with the Law Schools (for practicing before the Nordic concept of 12-man Juries) that from the Middle Ages have been located in the current Temple and the one preceding it, has been a requirement for being able to be in that Practice, it is seen how it is from that that the concept of the American Associations that are named, “Bar Associations,” got that name.]

When the New Englanders, from the London Fishing Navy first found how much they could prosper by having operating facilities ashore from the Grand Banks Fishery, on the Shores of the New England Coast of North America, they composed The World’s First Written Constitutions [for a Government, which practice has been copied today, as the basis of the operation of every Government of every Country in the World today, except for 6 of them, which have still not copied that], by which Written Constitutions they would formally operate together. The World’s First Written Constitution was the Constitution that was written for the Puritan Commonwealth of Connecticut (the “first” reason that License Plates on cars from Connecticut read, “the Constitution State.”)

It is instructive, in relation to this, to read the “Charters” of the Puritan Commonwealths of Massachusetts and Connecticut. Just as the boys of London put down “the Purpose” which they wanted to pursue in their Careers, in their Guilds, so those Charters put down the Purpose of those Commonwealth Colonies.

For its Purpose the Charter of Connecticut reads:

“As their Good Life and Orderly Conversation may win and invite the Natives of the Country to the knowledge and obedience of the Only True God and Savior of Mankind and the Christian Faith, which in our royal intentions and the adventurers free profession is the ONLY and principal END of this Plantation.”

In relation to this the Puritan New Englanders knew that there was no way, by their Ancestral Puritan Christianity, that they could repeat the Theft from the Native Americans of their Ancestral Lands and possessions, in the ways that the Feudalistic Leadership of Spain had done that. Just the opposite, they wrote that their “ONLY END,” their ONLY Purpose in being on the Land that the Native Americans had inherited from their Ancestors was so that, “their Good Life and Orderly Conversation may win and invite the Natives of the Country to the knowledge and obedience of the Only True God and Savior of Mankind and the Christian Faith.” Just as the 500,000 London Free Men, continuing in their Good Faith to the Principles of their Ancestral Nordic Gospel, which allows them to be the basis of the current Finances of the World (and allows the Descendants of those London Free Men, who began that practice, when they began building London around their Christian Temple, after the year 450 AD, to enjoy, in England and then in America, “the Highest Standard of Living in the World”), so those Members of the London Fishing Navy who began New England united themselves around their Promise to their Father in Heaven that “their ONLY END” in being on the Ancestral Lands of the Native Americans was so that “their Good Life and Orderly Conversation may win and invite the Natives of the Country to the knowledge and obedience of the only True God and Savior of Mankind and the Christian Faith” and be able to help those Natives adapt themselves to the Ancestral Nordic Free Enterprise System of the New Englanders and, then, be able to participate with them in their enjoyment of The Highest Standard of Living in the World, instead of their being in the bitter poverty that so many of the Native Americans were found to be living in.


Most people know that the First Constitution of the USA was put together during the US Revolutionary War and was the Union of the New England Commonwealths with, eventually, all of the other former Colonies, and that it was under that First Constitution that they won the Revolutionary War. That First US Constitution was named, “The Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union of the United States of America.”

During the English Civil War, of the 1640’s etc., when the adherents to England’s Ancestral Nordic Free Enterprise System, as the Commonwealth of England, fought and destroyed any future for Medieval Feudalism in England, the Commonwealths of New England realized that they needed to organize themselves to avoid bad consequences from that War that was then raging in England. In doing that they wrote the predecessor of that First US Constitution (that was written during the US Revolutionary War), which predecessor Constitution they named, “The Article of Confederation and Perpetual League of the United Colonies of New England.”

The Preamble to that predecessor Constitution reads:

“Whereas we all came into these parts of America with ONE and the same END and aim, namely, to advance the Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ and to enjoy THE LIBERTIES OF THE GOSPEL in PURITY …”


All of the People of the Nordic Race who spoke any of the Languages that are today classified as Germanic Languages, have always, from the times of the beginning of those of their Records which they kept since the First Century AD, called their “pricelessly valuable to them” RIGHTS, “THE RIGHTS OF THE GOSPEL.”

In their predecessor Constitution to the First US Constitution they emphasized, in its Preamble, that their “ONE … END” in coming to these Ancestral Lands of the Native Americans was “to advance the Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ” among them and to help those, generally poverty-stricken, Natives to be able to share with them their priceless Ancestral “RIGHTS OF THE GOSPEL,” in order to begin to share with them the Highest Standard of Living in the World, which all of the American Free Men of New England had inherited from their London Free Men Forefathers.

A way in which they hoped to accomplish this was to have all of North America divided up into New England-type Townships, with a free Elementary School in each Township, which all English-speaking Children were obligated to attend and to which all Native American Children were to be most cordially invited to attend.

Of course there never was any such development as that anywhere in the Slavery-based Economies of all of the Southern Royal Colonies.


When it became obvious to England’s Feudalism what the Commonwealth of England, that was being established by the London Free Men of the Commonwealth of London, was going to do, Feudalists in England, who had never been allowed into London, past its Temple Bar, realized that their Feudalism in England was going to be destroyed. Therefore, so many of them escaped from England and traveled to what had become “the Royal Colonies” of the Old South (where those Colonies were owned by the Crown, instead of by the Free Men of each Commonwealth, as was the case in New England, and as it had always been among the New Englanders’ Forefathers in London.)

So, whereas New England, of the American Free Men of those Commonwealths, was the Product of the Free Enterprise System of their Forefather London Free Men and of the other Commonwealths of the Nordic Race’s Ancestral Hanseatic League, those who established the Slavery Old South brought there with them their adherence to the LIES of Medieval Feudalism.


It seems that very few people ever hear of how the widely regarded main Enemies of Mankind “snuck” into England during the period of its Commonwealth. Thereafter they caused the Great Plague of London, that killed off so much of the former population of its London Free Men. To eliminate the Plague germs and make it so that they could take over London, they then caused the Great Fire of London. On the ashes of the London which they had burned down they established their Bank of England, which has been the center from which all of the subsequent Central Banks of all of the Countries of the World have had their Financial Affairs directed.

After their principal participation in winning what were, in America, called, “the French and Indian Wars,” the American Free Men of New England were, at last, free to extend their Ancestral Free Enterprise System (with its provision for educating all of the Children here, English-speaking and Native American, in all of their Township Schools, across the part of North America to which they owned title, from the Mason-Dixon Line to the 48th Parallel) across the entire North American Continent.

The Criminal Controllers of the Bank of England knew that if the New England American Free Men were able to do that, with what seemed to be the most valuable Land in the World, the North American Midwest, those American Free Men of New England, the Descendants of the Families of the London Free Men, whom they had killed with their Great Plague of London and Great Fire of London, would become the ones who would be able to build the most powerful Country or Organization in the World, instead of the Organization of Central Banks, which those Murderers of the Free Men of London planned to spread around the World, in imitation of their Bank of England.

The attempted Robbery of the American Free Men of Colonial New England, of their Ancestral Title to extend their Commonwealths, and to make new ones, to the west of New England, through the Mid-west and to the Pacific Coast, caused the American Free Men of New England to organize their Ancestral Township Yeomanries into what became named, “the US Army,” that beat and drove out of New England forever the British Army that was used in that attempt to commit that Robbery from them.

The Tobacco Industry, basically the only “Industry” in the Pre-Revolution Slavery South, was owned and operated by the Bank of England. The “British Army” in “occupation” of so much of the Tobacco-growing Slavery South was, in very large part, made up of those who operated the Slavery-based Tobacco Industry of the Slavery South, that was owned by the Bank of England. They did what the Bank of England told them to do.


After Americans won the Revolutionary War the Bank of England told its Southern Slavery Tobacco Grower employees to trick the New Englanders into composing a new Constitution, wherein the, still, Feudalistic-minded Tobacco Growers could participate in the same “Gospel Rights,” here in America, along with the American Free Men of New England, that their Feudalistic predecessors, in England, had always been barred from, by Temple Bar, by the London Free Men, there, in London, England.

The way that that began seemed that it was going to be easy enough. Officials of the new US Government were sent to France to try to negotiate a Loan from the people who were plotting the start of the French Revolution, that would be the “Communism” that would be operated by a Bank of France, in a similar way to the way that the Bank of England operated from the London which it had burned down.

The US Government Official, through whom that Loan was made, was told to compose, for the Legislature of the new State of Virginia, “The Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom.” It seemed, at the outset, that it was only going to be the assertion by the new “Citizens” of Virginia, who, instead of being British “Subjects,” of the King, anymore, were not that, and did not want to keep on being pestered by his British Episcopal State Church, anymore, to pay its bills etc.

Even the principal Assertion of that Statute did not seem all that “revolutionary” in the theretofore very Feudalistic Royal Colony of Virginia. That Assertion was:

“… our Civil Rights have no dependence on our Religious Opinions, any more than our opinions in Physics or Geometry;”

The reason that that did not seem too revolutionary, in there-to-fore quite Feudalistic Slavery Virginia, was because of the origin of all Mediterranean Statecraft, of which Medieval Mediterranean Feudalism was only a continuation. The beginning of all Mediterranean Statecraft was the Satanic Assertion by the Ancient Greek Socrates, that became the basis of all subsequent, what was thought of as, “European Statecraft.” That was that there never can be a “Teacher of Virtue,” such as were Jesus Christ and His Apostles, but that the only guidance that humans, here on the Earth, can get ― from Aristotle’s “Brainless, Bodyless Fool of an Ancient, Primitive, Pagan Greek theos, that makes the Sky Spin around the Land One time, every day and night, in a “One-Spin,” (the Ancient Greek concept translated by the Romans into their Ancient Latin as, “Uni-Verse”) ― are “THE CORRECT HUNCHES” THAT CAN ONLY COME TO MANKIND, from that Brainless, Bodyless Fool of an Ancient, Primitive, Pagan Greek theos, THROUGH THE MONARCHS WHO ARE ABLE TO KILL THEIR WAY TO CONTROLS OVER MANKIND. [Although the original Ancient Greek word of Socrates meant, “hunch,” in English, it was represented, through the Middle Ages and into Modern Times as what is said in English as, “Opinions.”]

Medieval Feudalists and Southern Slavery Tobacco-growing Employees of the Bank of England, had continued in that, by then, Millenniums-old Ancient Greek LIE of theirs, that the only “Correct OPINIONS” that can come to Mankind come to them through their Murderer Monarchs. This was the source of the “Permissions,” “Privileges,” “Liberties,” that were given to the Feudalistic, a-little-lower-down Agents of Europe’s traditional Medieval Murderer Monarchs, such as the Southern Slaveholders and their Feudalistic Forebears had been to them. So, it was no big change, in their still very Feudalistic Slavery environment, to assert, among the Virginians of that day, that their “Privileges” that they had gotten from their Monarch (in the Roman, Mediterranean governmental, “civil,” environment in which they had gotten them) had “no dependence” AT ALL upon any “Religious Opinions” which any nobody ― in Virginia, so far removed from their Murderer Monarch, in Britain ― might happen to come up with.

So, the “Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom,” was passed by the Legislature of the new “STATE” of Virginia.


The Biggest Lie in The World
and The American Revolution


In the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, till this day, it is considered rude, when speaking to the people about their “Commonwealth,” to use the word, “State,” for it.

During the Revolution the Slaveholders of the South were told not to cooperate with the New Englanders unless they were willing to, at least, use that word from the Statecraft that ran the Slavery South, the word, “STATE.” Among the very much “Ancient Anglo-Saxon Tradition” organized New Englanders, the Anglo-Saxon word “-wealth” was trusted and understood. The word, “STATE,” from the Greco-Roman Statecraft that the Southern Slaveholders operated their Tobacco Industry with, for the Bank of England, was an alien and an untrusted type of a thing to them.

However, by acquiescing to go along with the Slavers and use their word, from Ancient Greco-Roman Statecraft, the New Englanders had left themselves open for what the Bank of England felt would be their Southern Slaveholders “knocking out all of the teeth of the New Englanders.”

With the First Meeting of the House of Representatives of the First Congress, under the new US Constitution, the Southern Slavery Agent of the Bank of England, who was the one who was appointed to “knock all of the New Englanders’ teeth out,” came to that meeting as a Representative from the State of Virginia. He very obnoxiously (perhaps thinking that something would go wrong with the Big Plot, that he was the Agent for, if he didn’t pull his trick off quickly), kept demanding that he be “given the floor” to speak. The Speaker of the House, who was from Massachusetts, apparently somewhat aware of, or knowing what it was that the Slavery Agent was up to, is recorded, in the Record of that First Congress, repeatedly telling that Virginia Representative to shut up and sit down, that his turn would, eventually, come to him.

When he finally got the Floor he immediately proceeded to “knock out the teeth of the New Englanders” with what seems to many as, “The Biggest LIE in US History.”

That Biggest LIE was that, now that the Virginia Legislature had passed, “The Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom” and it had been accepted by the people of the State of Virginia, who had voted that, “Our Civil Rights have no dependence on our Religious Opinions,” all of the other “States” have to give their attention to that. That Biggest LIE was presented by the following Challenge:

“The Latin word, ‘civil,’ is the Latin adjective for the Latin noun, ‘State.’ All Americans, who now live in a Greco-Roman, Latin ‘State,’ have got to answer that Challenge: ‘What is it that you think that you get your “Statecraft, civil” rights from, that has ANYTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH ANY OF THE “RELIGIOUS OPINIONS” that you people, particularly you New Englanders, are always blowing off all of your steam about, that these are the Ancestral “GOSPEL RIGHTS,” THAT YOU GOT FROM YOUR FREE ANGLO-SAXON FOREFATHERS, etc. etc., ad nauseum?’ And, if you don’t know anything at all about that, then Shut Up about that, from now on, in our, from now on to be Southern Slavery Tobacco Industry led ‘United “Greco-Roman STATES,”’ not your Puritan led ‘“Anglo-Saxon COMMONWEALTHS,”’ anymore, ‘of America’”

Seeing that Problem from the New England point of view, a convenient commentary was made on that in the Series of Texts that were written by Winston Churchill, which he entitled, “A History of the English-speaking Peoples.” The First Volume of that Series is entitled, “The Birth of Britain.” The Second Chapter of that First Volume is entitled, “The English Common Law,” and ends with these words:

“The Liberties of Englishmen rested not upon any enactment of the State, but upon immemorial, slow-growing Custom, declared by Juries of Free Men, as they gave their Verdicts case by case in open court.”

Americans know that the “immemorial custom” that has always been required of us and of our Forefathers ― from time “immemorial,” in order for us to be able to participate in a Court of the Common Law, which Court is a Court where its Verdicts are “declared by Juries” of Twelve Free Men, unanimously voting to make those Verdicts (with us participating either as a Juror or as a person testifying before a Jury) ― is to answer, “Yes” to the question: “Do you solemnly swear to tell the Truth, the Whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth, so help you God?”

In the Commonwealth of London ― “operating from its Temple,” wherein have been the Law Schools that Lawyers, wishing to practice before 12-man Juries, in England, have studied, since the Anglo-Saxons came to England ― as well as in the Commonwealths of New England, virtually all Trials were Jury Trials.

In the Colonial South they ignored Jury Trials and, instead, operated in the Feudalistic way of having judgments from Judges that were appointed by the Monarch.

Since all of the “Gospel Rights” of all of those first New Englanders, from London etc., and of all of their New England Descendants (down until the Bank of England’s trick on them through the Southern Slavery Tobacco Industry) “rested upon” the “immemorial … Custom, declared by Juries of Free Men” “in open court,” in which they were permitted to participate only after each of them had answered, “Yes,” to the Oath question: “DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD?” IT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST LIES IN HISTORY THAT “THE LIBERTIES” OF NEW ENGLANDERS, THEIR “GOSPEL RIGHTS,” WERE NOT DEPENDENT ON THEIR RELIGIOUS OPINIONS.

However, that Biggest Lie was not the Problem. Their Problem is that during the Middle Ages Roman Catholic Feudalism had destroyed almost all of the Records of the New Englanders’ Forefathers, which told them where their Gospel Rights came from.

None of the New Englanders had any answer for the Bank of England’s Southern Slavery Tobacco Industry’s Agents. Since all of them had to admit that they had no more “Orderly Conversation,” to communicate to the Native Americans, about the origin of their Ancestral Free Enterprise System, so that it could be transferred to the Native Americans, through all of their New England Township Elementary Schools, they also all knew that they were all here, upon the Native Americans’ Ancestral Lands, in the Most Absolute Violation Possible of the LAWFULLY BINDING “ONLY END” for their being here upon these Lands, with no more right to be here on these Lands than the Thieving Spaniards had over what they had stolen from the Native Americans.

In their Absolute Mental Defeat, by all of the Slavers knocking all of their teeth out that way, there was nothing that they could say against the Southerners passing into Law, as the First Amendment to their New Written Constitution, that their “Congress shall pass no Law respecting an Establishment of Religion.” [The insanity of that wording is in the fact that the Anglo-Saxon word, “Law,” is the name for “the Ancestral RELIGION” of their Anglo-Saxon Forefathers, which they brought with them when they established England and built, in London, the Temple of their “Law Religion,” which is the “Headquarters” for the Study of the “Common (meaning the Christian Religious “Communion”) Law” of the English-speaking People of the World, till this day.]


When the effect of the Slavers’ First Amendment finally made the Commonwealth of Connecticut formally abandon their former ONLY END for being in America, in 1818, reducing Connecticut to being nothing more than a completely “secularized” entity that was no longer able to pay the Graduates of the Yale University Graduate School of Divinity to go to the westward extensions of New England, to the New England-type Townships in Up-State New York, for example, “professional ministers,” with far less preparation, immediately began trying to drum up paying customers for their Services in Up-State New York. In all of that chaos one of the most wonderful descendants of all of those generations of the London Free Men of England and of the American Free Men of New England, went out to ask his Heavenly Father for the “wisdom” which he felt was needed in the situation of his People.

Those who know of his Life’s Work are most thankful to their Heavenly Father for it, and are thankful to him for his making his Life’s Work available to help so many of the people of the World.

His Heavenly Father told him that the First Responsibility that was being placed upon the Latter-day Saints, the Members of the Lord’s Restored True Church is, “to seek after your dead!” As this has been done and the records of all of the Ancient Townships, “Communes/Commons” of Nordic Europe have been brought together, in a World Important Treasury for them under a Granite Mountain to the southeast of Salt Lake City, the evidence is available of exactly where it was that the Gospel Rights of the Ancestors of the English-speaking people came from. As mentioned above, “Roman Catholic Feudalism destroyed almost all of the Records of their Forefathers, which told them where their Gospel Rights came from.” There is one repository of those Records which Roman Catholic Feudalism was not able to destroy. And, the Records of all of the Ancient Townships, Communes of Nordic Europe, together, prove that that Repository’s Story of the origin of the Gospel Rights of the English-speaking People is True.

Because all of those who established New England wanted, beside being able “to advance the Kingdom of Our Lord Jesus Christ” (to share it with the Native Americans) to also be able to enjoy the Rights of the Gospel in “Purity,” after their admitted failure to be able to continue doing that their Enemies began the custom of ridiculing them as, “the ‘Purit(y)-ans’ of New England.”

When the Fulness of the Gospel was restored among the Latter-day Saints, so many of them the descendants of the London Free Men ― who had been hid from the evils of Medieval Feudalism, behind the Barricade of London’s Temple Bar ― and, thereafter, the descendants of the American Free Men, Puritan Settlers of New England, the Lord gave the following Revelation to them, as is recorded in D&C 86: 8-11.


8. Therefore, thus saith the Lord unto you, with whom the
priesthood hath continued, through the lineage of your fathers―

9. For ye are lawful heirs, according to the flesh, and have
been hid from the world with Christ in God―

11. Therefore blessed are ye if ye continue in my goodness,
a light unto the Gentiles, and through this priesthood a savior unto
my people Israel.


As the Latter-day Saints then tried to “continue in” the Lord’s “goodness,” as He had instituted his Goodness, the Rights of His Gospel, among their Forefathers, the Latter-day Saints were persecuted for, apparently, seeming like they were bringing up the subject of the failure of Puritanism, to the minds of many people, which might have been too much for them to want to think about, because it meant their thinking about how they did not have the “Lawful Right,” anymore, to be upon the North American Continent, which Lawful Right Northerners did not have anymore because they knew that they did not know how to be able to perform that which had been given as the Reason for their coming to America, to establish New England etc., which Reason was that which had been serving among them as that Lawful Right for their being able to be here.

However, the obvious plot of the Bank of England, in having its Southern Slavery Agents set up the State of Missouri, to the west of New England’s Mid-west, to block New Englanders etc. from settling the Southwest, of what is now the USA, so that Southern Slavery could be extended throughout the entire US Southwest, met a challenge when the Latter-day Saints moved to west, central Missouri to begin the New Jerusalem there. That had been the Goal, to build, in America, the New Jerusalem, “the Alabaster City,” that their Pilgrim Forefathers, on the Mayflower, had said was their reason for taking the name that the Apostle Paul suggested, to be “pilgrims on the earth, Hebrews 11:13,” as they came to America to build the Lord’s Zion here. In relation to that Goal of the Pilgrims, in taking upon themselves the name, “Pilgrims,” in order to make their “Pilgrimage” to America, in order to build the Lord’s New Jerusalem here, the Lord appeared to one of their Descendants, in 1820, 200 years, to the year, after the year when the Mayflower Pilgrims made that Pilgrimage of theirs, to inform those Descendants of the Mayflower Pilgrims etc. that He is building the New Jerusalem here, and that the Descendants of the Mayflower Pilgrims are among those through whom that Goal of the Mayflower Pilgrims is being done.


The unconscionable horrors that the Slavery Leadership of pre-Civil-War Missouri imposed upon the Latter-day Saints was traced to the Devil through the words in D&C 123:7. In D&C 123:13 it is said:

… that we should waste and wear out our lives in bringing to light all the hidden things of darkness …

that are spoken of in D&C 123:7, wherein it speaks of those works of the Devil as it tells of those works that are done:

… under the most damning hand of murder, tyranny, and oppression, supported and urged on and upheld by the influence of that spirit which hath so strongly riveted the creeds of the fathers, who have inherited LIES, upon the hearts of the children…


Whatever people may have thought about the difficulty that there has been, in the past, in understanding the situation that there has been that has been behind those LIES ― and, in particular, that there has been behind these specific LIES about which we have just now been speaking ― here at the present time, in the Information Age, the entire World is going to be able to understand that situation and what it is that has happened in that situation. So, then, as people become aware of the fact that they find themselves with a proclivity to things having to do with these LIES (maybe even thinking that they may have “loved” those LIES), about which we have just now been speaking, even though they now know that these LIES are only just the LIES that they are, they see the danger of the Judgment that there may be upon each one of them, that may condemn each one of them to the tragedy of their Eternity being in the lowest of the Kingdoms in the Next World, in that Telestial Kingdom, where, THE EVERLASTING INTELLIGENCE OF EACH ONE OF THEM IS BLOCKED, FOREVER, FROM THEIR EVER BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT JOY FOR WHICH EACH OF US SHOUTED, in order that we would be able to come here, in order that we would to be able to have that Joy forever.

pjbrownie wrote:Holy Cow! A little simpler please -- too many clauses in the sentance structure.

truthseeker wrote:Darren, regarding the writings of your friend Bruce, I have two questions:

1. Are the any sources? Any links, books, etc. that one could go to as a way to corroborate the claims he is making.

2. How would he feel about a rewrite of his works into something that is easier to understand? I agree that there are some very good insights but there is so much repetition and complex clauses that the point he is trying to make is often lost. If he weren't adverse to this, I might give it a try.

truthseeker wrote:Darren,

Another difficult part of the writings is that they often refer to ideas that don't ever seem to be resolved or explained.

For example, in the introduction, we read:

"human society has been fabricated upon a false idea about the nature of human language"

However, it does not say what that false idea is. Could you clarify this?

I am going back through the text now looking for these types of issues and trying to verify from secondary sources as much as I can.

Perhaps we could get a dialog going on this and the resolution of these types of questions on another thread.

What do you think?

Bruce Wydner wrote: Introduction

“The original, 'pristine' principles of the society of the English-speaking people, during the first centuries of the Christian Era, which they called, 'Law,' are the true principles which are involved in the creation of human languages”

Craig Johnson wrote: ↑March 2nd, 2018, 12:22 am A long read, which I would like to resurrect on just one portion of the scripture in question and not all the above writing which is going to a place that I don't want to go. This is it: "and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them."
In the next verse it says "And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them."
Sounds like we could have the carpet ripped out from under us due to the supreme wickedness that is actually currently going on in the U.S.
Any comments?