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Re: Just another cop killing someone

Posted: March 21st, 2018, 4:04 am
by Elizabeth
http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-n ... 0d23cf7f1f
"Justine Damond put her hands on the bullet wound on the left side of her stomach and said "I'm dying" just moments after a Minneapolis police officer shot her, according to the prosecutor who announced murder and manslaughter charges against Mohamed Noor .
Officer Noor turned himself in to Minneapolis authorities on Tuesday after a warrant was issued for his arrest.
He was booked into Hennepin County jail with bail set at $US500,000, and he is expected to make his first appearance in a Minneapolis court on Wednesday.
Ms Damond's family is pleased justice may be served.
"While we have waited more than eight months to come to this point, we are pleased with the way a grand jury, and County Attorney Mike Freeman, appear to have been diligent and thorough in investigating and ultimately determining that these charges are justified," Damond's fiance Don and her Sydney-based father John Ruszczyk and other family members said in a joint statement.
"We remain hopeful that a strong case will be presented by the prosecutor, backed by verified and detailed forensic evidence, and that this will lead to a conviction.
"No charges can bring our Justine back. However, justice demands accountability for those responsible for killing the people they are sworn to protect."
Noor's lawyer, Tom Plunkett, maintained his client was innocent.
"The facts will show that Officer Noor acted as he has been trained and consistent with established departmental policy," Mr Plunkett said.
"Officer Noor should not have been charged with any crime."
Minneapolis' prosecutor, Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman, told a different story on Tuesday as he announced Noor had been charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter counts.
"There is no evidence Noor encountered a threat, appreciated a threat, investigated a threat or confirmed a threat that justified his decision to use deadly force," Mr Freeman told reporters.
"Instead, Officer Noor recklessly and intentionally fired his hand gun from the passenger seat in disregard for human life."
Mr Freeman described how Noor and his partner, Officer Matthew Harrity, responded to Ms Damond's 911 call about a potential sexual assault in an alley behind her Minneapolis home just before midnight on July 15 last year.
Ms Damond, 40, originally from Sydney, had heard what she though were a woman's screams.
Officer Harrity and Noor pulled up in the alley, did not see anything and Noor typed into their car computer "code four", meaning no assistance was needed, the prosecutor said.
Officer Harrity allegedly then heard a muffled voice or whisper, "a thump" behind him on the squad car and caught a glimpse of a person's head and shoulders outside the driver's side door.
"Importantly he could not see the person's hands and estimated the person was two feet away from him," Mr Freeman said.
"Harrity saw no weapons.
"However Harrity claimed he was startled, took his gun out of his holster and held it against his rib cage pointing downward.
"Harrity said from the driver's seat he had a better vantage point to determine a threat on his side of the car than Officer Noor did from the passenger side."
Mr Freeman said Noor reached across Officer Harrity and shot Ms Damond.
Officer Harrity allegedly heard what sounded like a light bulb dropping on to the floor and saw a flash.
Officer Harrity checked to see if he had been shot, the prosecutor said.
"He saw Officer Noor's right hand extend across him toward Officer Harrity's open window," Mr Freeman said.
"Office Harrity then looked out his window and saw a woman.
"Justine Ruszczyk (Damond) had put her hands on the wound on the left side of her abdomen and said 'I'm dying' or 'I'm dead'."
The officers turned on their bodycams after the shooting and attempted to resuscitate Ms Damond but were not successful."

Re: Just another cop killing someone

Posted: March 21st, 2018, 10:11 am
by JohnnyL
h_p wrote: July 18th, 2017, 11:34 am
mirkwood wrote: July 18th, 2017, 10:33 am
inho wrote: July 18th, 2017, 3:31 am Do the police usually have their body cameras on all the time?
Nope. Not every officer even has a body cam.
Sounds like in Minnesota, they're supposed to, and they have some pretty specific policies that would have helped get to the bottom of this situation. That's a big red flag to me: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/18/qu ... woman.html
The Minneapolis police officers who arrived at Justine Damond’s home shortly before she was shot and killed on Saturday did not have their body cameras on -- in violation of department policy -- and the American Civil Liberties Union wants to know why.

The Minneapolis Police Dept. requires any officer involved in using force to activate a body camera, The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported late Sunday, noting that, when activated, the body cameras feature a 30-second buffer -- which allows whatever occurred in the crucial 30 seconds before the camera was activated to still be recorded. The ACLU has called for penalties against the officers for not starting their units.
The policemen were at the scene, not a few blocks away; and this was a woman at the scene, wasn't just some random woman suddenly walking up to them when they were parked on the side--the cameras should have been on, no doubt in my mind.

Even if there were some "reason", they should have turned the cameras on AFTER the shooting, which would have documented it, at least to some degree (I seriously doubt it took more than 30 seconds to finish that).

Re: Just another cop killing someone

Posted: March 21st, 2018, 11:06 am
by JohnnyL
mirkwood wrote: July 18th, 2017, 9:46 pm
h_p wrote: July 18th, 2017, 7:04 pm
When a cop gets arrested while being investigated, rather than being put on paid admin leave, then you might have a point.
I've been a part of many of these investigations and your perceptions are also inaccurate. There have been arrests both directions for "bad" shootings. There have been many, as you put it "citizen" shootings that have not resulted in arrests.

Again after many years on this board I recognize the low likelihood of changing your beliefs.
So I am assuming you can point us to many instances? I'm willing to read articles. Not just about an arrest, but where policemen have served time for shootings.

Re: Just another cop killing someone

Posted: May 1st, 2019, 7:40 am
by h_p
Just saw this news today: Mohamed Noor has been convicted of 3rd degree murder and 2nd degree manslaughter.
https://lawofselfdefense.com/when-reaso ... convicted/

Re: Just another cop killing someone

Posted: May 1st, 2019, 8:33 am
by mirkwood
h_p wrote: May 1st, 2019, 7:40 am Just saw this news today: Mohamed Noor has been convicted of 3rd degree murder and 2nd degree manslaughter.
https://lawofselfdefense.com/when-reaso ... convicted/
As he deserved.