Which comes first: the Super Natural Disaster or Destruction from Within?

[ebenezerarise]

I dread the end of June each year now because I literally fear what the Supreme Court is going to do. Nothing could top last year but this year just confirmed the depraved level we as a country have fallen to.

As we talk of these last days and discuss the dreams and the visions and the timelines preceding the 2nd Coming I'm left to ponder when the first big shock will hit --

Will it really come from a super natural disaster such as coast-changing earthquake?

-- or --

Will it come when we wake up to UN Troops or an outright overthrow of our government?

I'm thinking now we'll see something manufactured -- the Supreme Court, an enemy invasion, some kind of big event that will upset the order of things rather than the super natural disaster. I know we're advised to be forward looking but I cannot see much but a bad moon rising over the next few months especially.

[davedan]

Opinion: Nuclear War first, then when the elite are deep in their bunkers, massive EQ

[LDS Physician]

I believe the church will be first:

“And as a whirlwind it shall come upon all the face of the earth, saith the Lord. And upon my house shall it begin,
and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord; first among those among you, saith the Lord,
who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and
have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house." (D&C 112:24-26)

[zionminded]

I believe the church will be first:

“And as a whirlwind it shall come upon all the face of the earth, saith the Lord. And upon my house shall it begin,
and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord; first among those among you, saith the Lord,
who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and
have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house." (D&C 112:24-26)

This is already happening.

[Jason]

Purple spots - imo

[Sandinista]

Just for clarification, the "UN" doesn't have "troops". All the UN troops used around the world are assigned from member nations for a specific scenario The concept of "UN Troops" invading the country is pretty ludicrous. Second, "UN troops" are used only in "peacekeeping" scenarios; they are usually not armed , or armed with only light weapons. Not a lot of firepower to "invade" anyone. Finally, having served with "UN troops" I can tell you they are pretty wimpy. We are not talking Navy Seals or Army Rangers here. If anyone is going to invade the USA it certainly will not be "UN troops'" But, hey, it makes a good conspiracy theory.

[ebenezerarise]

Ok, fair enough. I guess all those armored vehicles seen in Virginia and Texas and other places were for FOREIGN troops to use and the UN Troops would just be watching from the sidelines, knitting.

[I'LLMAKEYAFAMOUS]

Merely speculating, but in order of likelihood:
1. Economic crisis w/ central banks out of ammo
2. War with Russia and/or China
3. Plague
4. Large and world changing natural disaster.

[Sandinista]

Ok, fair enough. I guess all those armored vehicles seen in Virginia and Texas and other places were for FOREIGN troops to use and the UN Troops would just be watching from the sidelines, knitting.

The troop carriers are made in Danville, VA. They were being shipped somewhere after their purchase. And, yes, the UN has equipment that soldiers assigned to the UN from their nations use when on UN assignment, but there are no standing UN troops. Finally, a whole lot of local police departments have the same type of vehicles for SWAT teams and other uses, whether surplus or new purchase they are not that scary.

[Sandinista]

Ok, fair enough. I guess all those armored vehicles seen in Virginia and Texas and other places were for FOREIGN troops to use and the UN Troops would just be watching from the sidelines, knitting.

Here is a link that describes what types of "troops" the UN has. Just for the record, and education.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... acekeeping" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[DesertWonderer]

Purple spots - imo

From which prophecy is this?

[Jason]

Purple spots - imo

From which prophecy is this?

numerous...basically the plague. Patriarch Evans identified as purple spots. Whole thread on it here -
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31550" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[DesertWonderer]

Purple spots - imo

From which prophecy is this?

numerous...basically the plague. Patriarch Evans identified as purple spots. Whole thread on it here -
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31550" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He was the first to mention the purple spots. IMHO all others simply copied the idea from him. He even admits there is nothing of a prophetic nature to it:

"On this I awoke to find all a dream.
I have written the foregoing, which is founded on true principle, under the caption of a dream, partly to instruct and partly to check the folly of reading silly novels now so prevalent.
Charles D. Evans
Springville, Utah."

[EmmaLee]

...and the UN Troops would just be watching from the sidelines, knitting.

Not knitting - they're raping civilians -

April 6, 2016 - "A United Nations official is headed to the Central African Republic after reports that over 100 women, girls and boys were raped and abused -- many by U.N. peacekeepers."

Entire article here - http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/africa/un ... ual-abuse/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

August 2015 - "Heads are rolling at the United Nations — sort of, at least among lower-level officials — as a mushrooming scandal involving UN “peacekeeping” troops systematically raping and abusing women and children in Africa continues to expand. At first, top UN leadership tried to keep the abuse under wraps, even firing the official who exposed the initial revelations, Anders Kompass, before having him investigated and escorted from his office under armed guard. Now, with a global outcry growing too loud to ignore, the UN has started taking some action — an “investigation” here, a resignation there, and so on. But critics say it is not even close to enough and smacks of an effort to sacrifice low-level minions to protect UN bosses — up to and including Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon."

Entire article here - http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-new ... ace-troops" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lots more - http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/world ... .html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... ailed-act/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Etc, etc, etc...

As for the OP, I think mankind will do its utmost to destroy itself - then the Lord will start preaching his own sermons via natural laws (which most of us don't understand, so we call it 'supernatural').

[Jason]

Purple spots - imo

From which prophecy is this?

numerous...basically the plague. Patriarch Evans identified as purple spots. Whole thread on it here -
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31550" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He was the first to mention the purple spots. IMHO all others simply copied the idea from him. He even admits there is nothing of a prophetic nature to it:

"On this I awoke to find all a dream.
I have written the foregoing, which is founded on true principle, under the caption of a dream, partly to instruct and partly to check the folly of reading silly novels now so prevalent.
Charles D. Evans
Springville, Utah."

Agree with you on the copying...whether it ends up being exactly "purple spots" or not....we know a plague is coming...

Hollywood has also been spreading the fear factor on that for decade or so....the whole zombie theme which has percolated throughout our society and subsequently the worlds...

I think there is some truth to it.

[EmmaLee]

Speaking of zombies - we saw a story on the news about this new drug, Flakka. Watch some videos of people who have taken it. It's truly astonishing.

http://www.hngn.com/articles/91293/2015 ... -salts.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; -

Flakka: Zombie-State Inducing Designer Drug Flakka as Potent, Addictive as Bath Salts, New Study Says
Flakka is the newest designer drug to gain popularity in the United States. It is potent, cheap and has been linked to incidents of extreme violence, nudity and zombie-like behavior.

[ebenezerarise]

Not knitting - they're raping civilians -

Ah, thanks for the explanation. Big difference between "troops" and "peacekeepers". Got it. Thanks.

[EmmaLee]

Rather ironic, and sickening, that they call them "peacekeepers", isn't it. Straight out of Orwell and 2 Nephi 15.

[AI2.0]

I dread the end of June each year now because I literally fear what the Supreme Court is going to do. Nothing could top last year but this year just confirmed the depraved level we as a country have fallen to.

As we talk of these last days and discuss the dreams and the visions and the timelines preceding the 2nd Coming I'm left to ponder when the first big shock will hit --

Will it really come from a super natural disaster such as coast-changing earthquake?

-- or --

Will it come when we wake up to UN Troops or an outright overthrow of our government?

I'm thinking now we'll see something manufactured -- the Supreme Court, an enemy invasion, some kind of big event that will upset the order of things rather than the super natural disaster. I know we're advised to be forward looking but I cannot see much but a bad moon rising over the next few months especially.

Neither.

I don't believe we're going to get off this easy. If the Lord sent a huge earthquake it would be so much easier to get people to repent and turn things around, and I don't think he's going to make this easy for us. And No UN troops. And nothing 'manufactured'--I think conspiracy theories are mostly very implausible and often ridiculous.

I think in the next few months, we'll see no huge earthquakes, no invasions and we'll just have to keep muddling through and defending our faith, living righteous lives, with no supernatural or extraordinary events to make it easier to stand with Truth and right.

[AI2.0]

Purple spots - imo

From which prophecy is this?

numerous...basically the plague. Patriarch Evans identified as purple spots. Whole thread on it here -
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31550" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He was the first to mention the purple spots. IMHO all others simply copied the idea from him. He even admits there is nothing of a prophetic nature to it:

"On this I awoke to find all a dream.
I have written the foregoing, which is founded on true principle, under the caption of a dream, partly to instruct and partly to check the folly of reading silly novels now so prevalent.
Charles D. Evans
Springville, Utah."

Thanks for posting that. I'm not sure how this essay he wrote morphed into being described as a vision/prophetic dream. It's still interesting, but I'm quite certain he did not mean for people to believe he'd actually had this dream.

[brianj]

I don't believe we're going to get off this easy. If the Lord sent a huge earthquake it would be so much easier to get people to repent and turn things around, and I don't think he's going to make this easy for us. And No UN troops. And nothing 'manufactured'--I think conspiracy theories are mostly very implausible and often ridiculous.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. If there was a huge earthquake I don't believe it would make it any easier to get people to repent. For decades people have been taught that earthquakes are a product of plate tectonics and are inevitable. Should an earthquake happen some people might be humbled enough to be open to repentance, but some would curse God and most would just say it was a natural disaster. It will take a lot more than even a massive, continent wide earthquake to get people to repent.

[Jason]

The Plague....purple spots....