Alice in Wonderland 101...
AUTHOR / PEDOPHILE for little Girls, including Alice (who was a real person) who he took nude photos of
Author of Alice in Wonderland:
Reverend Charles L. Dodgson
aka Lewis Carroll
1832 - 1898
Mathematician, Symbolist, Logician, Anglican Deacon, Prolific Photographer, and most important highly likely from all the evidence of his life, he was a pedophile for little girls... He also drew inspiration from Hashish and Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms.
Mr. Carroll had many 'child friends' and was an avid photographer, taking pictures of young girls, often nude.
Here we see the author kissing Alice Liddell in one of his photographs... before the photographs he took of her nude...
ALICE AND WONDERLAND
Lewis Carroll originally titled the story, "Alice's adventures underground".
Mind you, all of the following is found down through the rabbit hole into the abyss where Alice was invited to a "party", way far down into darkness in the movie:
- going down the rabbit hole, which goes really deep (bottomless pit) - where one can go to the party, which party Alice references (lots of symbolism I won't go into details)
- she goes into the shaft, into the pit and falls down, down, down into darkness
- mirror is inverted, the entire place is inverted (referenced to the abyss)
- white rabbit, room 101, the beast, numbers, colors used
- doors and door knobs, keys
- last supper mockery (tea party) and symbolism
- magic tunnels into other dimensions and worlds
- doors and veils
- owls
- spiral stairs
- clocks and time (3pm is mentioned in movie, time of Christ's death, but in an anti christ manner)
- numbers, colors, music (part of accessing the subconcious mind, esp. for children), time, dimensions, last hour, no time, being late
- Signs and Symbols (hand signs obvious refernce ot the goat - satan)
- infinite tunnels
- spiritual possession (disembodiment - demonic)
- drugs, mushrooms, etc.
Essentially, without going into more depth, this movie is all about opening the veil of the abyss of the anti christ, it mocks Christ, mocks the last supper, mocks his death, time of death, the veil, essentially this movie mocks all things symbolic of Christ with Satan's counterfeit.
What are your thoughts? Should the Prophet of God call it out on this movie if he is quoting from it, unless some saint, or heaven forbid children unwittingly think if the prophet quotes from it, then it must be one to have in a movie collection, should he know the truth about it? When he quotes from a blatantly satan-occult-inspired movie, should he at least warn us about it?
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EDITED (April 07 12:40 pm MST):
For the sake of the absolute false assumptions and to help keep the discussion going rather than the assumptions and accusations, let me add a point that I said on pg four so far from this discussion slash ridiculously unhelpful false accusations.
Lehi saw not the workings of the dirty river of water, he didn't even notice it was dirty in his vision. Nephi however saw it and expounded somewhat upon the river and its dirtiness and symbolic meaning. God loves them both and used them both. If we didn't have Lehi - we would never have Nephi's more in depth version. If we didn't have Nephi, we would have missed the lesson behind the dirty river.
It takes light to see the darkness. There is nothing wrong when someone has light and shines the light on the darkness (in this case Alice and Wonderland - not President Monson himself), which otherwise would have been missed (ie. Lehi and Nephi and the river) - and is lead to share what the light revealed about the darkness, agenda, hidden combinations, etc. to bless the lives of others.
We ARE to use the light to shine on the dark to help others be not deceived, trapped, etc. To Lehi he missed the darkness and dirtiness of the river entirely. Nephi did not. Was Nephi an apostate for speaking about the sins of the river and its dirtiness that Lehi referred to? No, God used Nephi's unique gifts and heart differently than he did Lehi's.
Why can't we as saints allow other saints to be the "gift" of shining light on dark, and in this case the dark was the movie Pres. Monson Quoted - nothing more or less. It is so typical and tiresome to have so many on this thread speak to all these assumed offenses. Do we not see in ourselves how we react and assume erroneously others motives? What are we afraid of?! The truth will stand no matter what, so quit feeling attacked, quit attacking and reacting, and can we please continue DISCUSSING now in light of the example of Lehi and Nephi seeing the same river so very differently and they were both used, loved, and inspired of God.
My OP has NOTHING to do with mocking Pres. Monson at all, I have said NOTHING but agreed with the positive said about his message (which came from the false assumptions of my motives towards the man and his overall message).
Good grief people - I feel like crying out what Joseph Smith said of the saints in his days,
There I quoted from the manual...I am not learned, but I have as good feelings as any man. Oh, that I had the language of the archangel to express my feelings once to my friends! But I never expect to in this life.
There has been a great difficulty in getting anything into the heads of this generation. It has been like splitting hemlock knots with a corn-dodger [a piece of corn bread] for a wedge, and a pumpkin for a beetle [a wooden mallet]. Even the Saints are slow to understand.
I have tried for a number of years to get the minds of the Saints prepared to receive the things of God; but we frequently see some of them, after suffering all they have for the work of God, will fly to pieces like glass as soon as anything comes that is contrary to their traditions: they cannot stand the fire at all. How many will be able to abide a celestial law, and go through and receive their exaltation, I am unable to say, as many are called, but few are chosen [see D&C 121:40].
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