Who wants polygamy back?

[iWriteStuff]

Ok, so it appears there are some posters who think there are tons of men in the church just wishing and hoping polygamy will make a comeback.

Personally, I don't think it ever will. Second, unless an angel with a flaming sword stopped me in the way and told me I HAD to take a second wife, I'd rather take a bullet to the head.

But what say ye? Where are these armies of willing and able men who want to take on scores of wives?

[Jesef]

My sentiments exactly, angel with sword, bullet to head, all of it. Amen.

[rewcox]

So you guys aren't enticed by the 70 virgins? or the 70 robotesses.

[iWriteStuff]

So you guys aren't enticed by the 70 virgins? or the 70 robotesses.

To modify a certain expression, I got 99 problems but polygamy ain't one.... thankfully!

As per robotesses....

[Melissa]

There certainly are lots who defend it and some say they would live it if it came back.

I wonder if defending is something people feel the need to do not because they want it but because their testimony in church/prophets depend on it being a righteous practice. But then why say it's coming back? Why hope for it to come back?

I think there is a ton of misunderstanding here, likely because it's an emotional heart string for people, or a salvation issue for people.

For me, I wish it never happened.
I also wish that the church would recognize the issues surrounding this and clear somethings up.

[Zathura]

Don't want it, I don't think it will ever come back.
I'm confident that if God brings back polygamy, it will not be the same form that was practiced by Brigham Young.
IF this ever happens again, the only men who have multiple wives will be told directly by God which specific woman to take.

I will not support the form that was practiced in the early days of the church, where certain men could just take whichever women they wanted because they had "higher keys".

[Rose Garden]

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Of course you'd rather take a bullet than live polygamy. Because, of course, if you decided to live polygamy, you would be taking a bullet to the head . . . from your wife!

[rewcox]

Melissa, what percentage of mormons at that time practiced it? I've heard 5%.

If it was 5%, 95% didn't need to worry about it. Unless the kids came back after playing saying, "I wish I had more than 1 mom."

There certainly are lots who defend it and some say they would live it if it came back.

I wonder if defending is something people feel the need to do not because they want it but because their testimony in church/prophets depend on it being a righteous practice. But then why say it's coming back? Why hope for it to come back?

I think there is a ton of misunderstanding here, likely because it's an emotional heart string for people, or a salvation issue for people.

For me, I wish it never happened.
I also wish that the church would recognize the issues surrounding this and clear somethings up.

[rewcox]

No, a knife...

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Of course you'd rather take a bullet than live polygamy. Because, of course, if you decided to live polygamy, you would be taking a bullet to the head . . . from your wife!

[Rose Garden]

No, a knife...

=)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =))

Of course you'd rather take a bullet than live polygamy. Because, of course, if you decided to live polygamy, you would be taking a bullet to the head . . . from your wife!

. . . in the back while you are sleeping?

[rewcox]

No. a knife for the member...

No, a knife...

=)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =))

Of course you'd rather take a bullet than live polygamy. Because, of course, if you decided to live polygamy, you would be taking a bullet to the head . . . from your wife!

. . . in the back while you are sleeping?

[Rose Garden]

No. a knife for the member...

No, a knife...

=)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =))

Of course you'd rather take a bullet than live polygamy. Because, of course, if you decided to live polygamy, you would be taking a bullet to the head . . . from your wife!

. . . in the back while you are sleeping?

Ah! The universal cure-all for many types of sexual deviancy.

[natasha]

I think there is a great misunderstanding regarding polygamy. We tend to judge things by the current culture....and you have to admit, everything seems to have sex attached to it. Can hardly watch an ad on tv without it being sexual in some form or other. These are certainly different days and it would be way more difficult for the average man to have more than one wife and be able to afford it. If it returns, I don't believe anyone who is opposed to it would be asked to live it nor do I believe anyone would be asked to shoulder a burden more than they could bear.

[Mark]

Ok, so it appears there are some posters who think there are tons of men in the church just wishing and hoping polygamy will make a comeback.

Personally, I don't think it ever will. Second, unless an angel with a flaming sword stopped me in the way and told me I HAD to take a second wife, I'd rather take a bullet to the head.

But what say ye? Where are these armies of willing and able men who want to take on scores of wives?

You must be joking. I fail daily to adequately meet all the emotional and spiritual and physical and social needs of my 1 wife who is an angel for putting up with my many glaring insufficiencies. Add any more poor unfortunate sisters to this mix and the thought sends shivers up my often spine(less) spine. What a masochistic thought!

[Rose Garden]

Ok, so it appears there are some posters who think there are tons of men in the church just wishing and hoping polygamy will make a comeback.

Personally, I don't think it ever will. Second, unless an angel with a flaming sword stopped me in the way and told me I HAD to take a second wife, I'd rather take a bullet to the head.

But what say ye? Where are these armies of willing and able men who want to take on scores of wives?

You must be joking. I fail daily to adequately meet all the emotional and spiritual and physical and social needs of my 1 wife who is an angel for putting up with my many glaring insufficiencies. Add any more poor unfortunate sisters to this mix and the thought sends shivers up my often spine(less) spine. What a masochistic thought!

Mark, I hope you discover the delight of meeting all your wife's needs someday. It is possible and it is the source of the greatest joy in life.

[Todd]

Well, this might not work well for most mormon couples, but the day I declared to my wife that I'd rather take a flaming sword to the gut and burn in hell for eternity than destroy the intimacy we share,with another wife, was the day my marriage improved 1000%.

I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is...

Good luck to all with this mormon conundrum.

[Chip]

I think the high level of regard for chastity that exists today in the church is partly a reaction the whole polygamy specter.

[Melissa]

Melissa, what percentage of mormons at that time practiced it? I've heard 5%.

If it was 5%, 95% didn't need to worry about it. Unless the kids came back after playing saying, "I wish I had more than 1 mom."

There certainly are lots who defend it and some say they would live it if it came back.

I wonder if defending is something people feel the need to do not because they want it but because their testimony in church/prophets depend on it being a righteous practice. But then why say it's coming back? Why hope for it to come back?

I think there is a ton of misunderstanding here, likely because it's an emotional heart string for people, or a salvation issue for people.

For me, I wish it never happened.
I also wish that the church would recognize the issues surrounding this and clear somethings up.

Haven't seen the stats in a while but I think it's on one of the church essays. If I remember right, it was somewhere around 50% of people at a certain time had been touched by polygamy in their families.

5% maybe at the very start of it. It didn't remain that low.
Even if it's not a part of your marriage, it was likely a part of your friends marriage or your parents marriage and everyone was affected by it. Think of gayness these days, you may not be gay, your spouse may not be, your kids may not be, but there are enough people in our society that everyone is affected. I cannot completely ignore gay marriage anymore than people back then could ignore polygamy.

[Melissa]

Well, this might not work well for most mormon couples, but the day I declared to my wife that I'd rather take a flaming sword to the gut and burn in hell for eternity than destroy the intimacy we share,with another wife, was the day my marriage improved 1000%.

I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is...

Good luck to all with this mormon conundrum.

Congradulations. You should teach this to other men. Men complain that their wives don't behave how they wish they would, nagging, respect, intimacy etc.

I gave advice in another post to do this exact same thing you did and said that your marriage would improve and she would love you more. Polygamy or even the thought or threat of it can absolutely diminish a wives love and devotion to her husband!
It really is similar to pornography use. Pledge to her and remove the threat of other women and she will love you more than you know now is even possible. That is the key to a woman's heart. Devotion and loyalty. A woman would take an ugly bald fat guy and find him sexy if she knew his heart and mind belonged within their marriage and he was satisfied with her and there was no threat to his devotion.

Wouldn't you love your wife the most if she demonstrated these things to you? There is security there and within a secure relationship real progress happens and both are edified. They can become one, which is required to gain salvation together.

A secure home is what allows children to be children and to grow and be nursed and to develop self esteem and confidance, raise your child with the idea that he could have his parents shuffled around or added or taken away from and that will produce an unsure and unsecure relationship between kids and parent(s). You want to know your mom or dad will always be there and they love you, when you know that, you have a healthy relationship with them and can trust them when you have problems or issues arrive in your life. Same for a couple.

I can guarantee you that if my husband wanted polygamy and awaited the day or even said he would have no problem living it, my love for him would tank. That's just what it does. I guess that's because I don't view my salvation as being dependant on him but in equality with him.
Sometimes I think women are okay with it then or now because it meant salvation for them and they loved their husband and devoted to him because he brought greater salvation-......... by sleeping with other women...lol. sorry I just don't get it. Maybe if I lived back then I wouldnt laugh at the logic but then again I would likely have been oppressed too, being a female and wouldn't have the right to think that way.

[braingrunt]

Well, this might not work well for most mormon couples, but the day I declared to my wife that I'd rather take a flaming sword to the gut and burn in hell for eternity than destroy the intimacy we share,with another wife, was the day my marriage improved 1000%.

I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is...

Good luck to all with this mormon conundrum.

Hm, I don't want to live polygamy or cheat on my spouse in any way, but I could never say such a thing. Ruin eternity for 80yrs of intimacy? It would be pure bs from me. Burning in hell forever would REALLY suck. Gotta take the long view.

[Todd]

Well, this might not work well for most mormon couples, but the day I declared to my wife that I'd rather take a flaming sword to the gut and burn in hell for eternity than destroy the intimacy we share,with another wife, was the day my marriage improved 1000%.

I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is...

Good luck to all with this mormon conundrum.

Hm, I don't want to live polygamy or cheat on my spouse in any way, but I could never say such a thing. Ruin eternity for 80yrs of intimacy? It would be pure bs from me. Burning in hell forever would REALLY suck. Gotta take the long view.

Ok.

[braingrunt]

Well, this might not work well for most mormon couples, but the day I declared to my wife that I'd rather take a flaming sword to the gut and burn in hell for eternity than destroy the intimacy we share,with another wife, was the day my marriage improved 1000%.

I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is...

Good luck to all with this mormon conundrum.

Hm, I don't want to live polygamy or cheat on my spouse in any way, but I could never say such a thing. Ruin eternity for 80yrs of intimacy? It would be pure bs from me. Burning in hell forever would REALLY suck. Gotta take the long view.

Ok.

You be happy for 80 years, I'll be happy for 80 billion. If I'm luckly I'll be happy here too. Not doing too badly so far.

[Todd]

Well, this might not work well for most mormon couples, but the day I declared to my wife that I'd rather take a flaming sword to the gut and burn in hell for eternity than destroy the intimacy we share,with another wife, was the day my marriage improved 1000%.

I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is...

Good luck to all with this mormon conundrum.

Hm, I don't want to live polygamy or cheat on my spouse in any way, but I could never say such a thing. Ruin eternity for 80yrs of intimacy? It would be pure bs from me. Burning in hell forever would REALLY suck. Gotta take the long view.

Ok.

You be happy for 80 years, I'll be happy for 80 billion. If I'm luckly I'll be happy here too. Not doing too badly so far.

Wow. I guess you win then. Take care.

[Melissa]

Well, this might not work well for most mormon couples, but the day I declared to my wife that I'd rather take a flaming sword to the gut and burn in hell for eternity than destroy the intimacy we share,with another wife, was the day my marriage improved 1000%.

I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is...

Good luck to all with this mormon conundrum.

Hm, I don't want to live polygamy or cheat on my spouse in any way, but I could never say such a thing. Ruin eternity for 80yrs of intimacy? It would be pure bs from me. Burning in hell forever would REALLY suck. Gotta take the long view.

"Ruin eternity for 80 years of intimacy"

This is flawed and doesn't work, unless you think disavowing polygamy NOW will cause your eternal damnation. Disavowing polygamy will put you in good standing with your wife and with your membership.

[braingrunt]

Well, this might not work well for most mormon couples, but the day I declared to my wife that I'd rather take a flaming sword to the gut and burn in hell for eternity than destroy the intimacy we share,with another wife, was the day my marriage improved 1000%.

I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is...

Good luck to all with this mormon conundrum.

Hm, I don't want to live polygamy or cheat on my spouse in any way, but I could never say such a thing. Ruin eternity for 80yrs of intimacy? It would be pure bs from me. Burning in hell forever would REALLY suck. Gotta take the long view.

"Ruin eternity for 80 years of intimacy"

This is flawed and doesn't work, unless you think disavowing polygamy NOW will cause your eternal damnation. Disavowing polygamy will put you in good standing with your wife and with your membership.

I was just accepting his premise, even though it has no basis in reality.