One question yes or no
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namnik
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One question yes or no
I have been inactive for 2 years.I just have one question that I just need a YES or a NO.I dont need any kind of explantion.I just need a YES or NO. With the new policy of children not being able to be baptized due to have gay parents,does this also mean that two parents who are not married and living together can't have their children baptized either? Please someone let me know the answer.Thank you
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namnik
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So I have seen that 8 people have viewed my post but did not reply. So the answer must be yes children living with parents who are not married can be baptized. Ill check back in later.I cant get no one to answer this question anywhere else either.
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Re: One question yes or no
No one answered because your original post does not posit a clear question.
Are the kids in question your kids? Are you living with the kids mom? Is she your wife? Are either of you two gay? If you are gay, have either of you entered into a same sex marriage? Do you want the kids baptized?
Assuming you and mom are straight, the kids meet baptism criteria (of age, have witnessed their faith in Christ, and want to make a covenant with Jesus)
YES
Are the kids in question your kids? Are you living with the kids mom? Is she your wife? Are either of you two gay? If you are gay, have either of you entered into a same sex marriage? Do you want the kids baptized?
Assuming you and mom are straight, the kids meet baptism criteria (of age, have witnessed their faith in Christ, and want to make a covenant with Jesus)
YES
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namnik
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Todd
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Re: One question yes or no
No.namnik wrote:... two parents who are not married and living together can't have their children baptized... ?
- h_p
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YES, this is correct: two parents who are not married and not living together can still have their children blessed and baptized. Handbook 1 lists no restrictions on this kind of situation for baptisms, and specifically states that children born out of wedlock can be blessed (section 16.2.2).namnik wrote:So I have seen that 8 people have viewed my post but did not reply. So the answer must be yes children living with parents who are not married can be baptized. Ill check back in later.I cant get no one to answer this question anywhere else either.
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YES they can still be blesses and baptized.. it happened a lot in the mission field... and in other missions i heard stories of where they still baptized kids even though parents were not married (happens a lot in South America and Philippines etc)
- bornfree
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Yes and.no. Does this question have anything to do with race? What does race have to do with receiving the blessings of baptism? If in a gay relationship, and.one person is of a different race, their children cannot be baptized?
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Zathura
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I myself have baptized children who live in homes where the parents were not married. So yea, they can be.namnik wrote:I have been inactive for 2 years.I just have one question that I just need a YES or a NO.I dont need any kind of explantion.I just need a YES or NO. With the new policy of children not being able to be baptized due to have gay parents,does this also mean that two parents who are not married and living together can't have their children baptized either? Please someone let me know the answer.Thank you
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I know you want a yes or no answer and the short answer is yes, children living in a household of a man and women (hetero parents) who are not married can received name and blessing and be baptized, go to the temple, etc...
The justification for why this is okay and not gay or lesbian parents is easy to see given the church's stance on marriage is between a man and a women. Gay or lesbian parents can't repent and become married in the sight of God, plain and simple. Hetero parents who are not married can repent and become married in the sight of God at some point.
There are many cases, especially in South America where divorce laws are so difficult that hetero people often live together and raise children without being married. Many will spend years working through the legal process of getting divorced from their previous spouse so that they can be married, but many give up on the process.
Imagine these couples are inactive when they get together and have children and later in life want to repent and return to full activity in the church. They are doing everything they can to become right in the sight of God, but the laws of the land are preventing the last step, marriage God recognizes. Their children can be baptized despite this situation.
A gay couple in the same situation still is not repenting of their "sin", thus the church policy. It comes down to do you believe acting on gay or lesbian feelings is a sin in the sight of God.
I know you didn't want a long answer, but simple short answers can be read so wrong by those seeking to find fault and criticize when no context is placed behind the answer.
The justification for why this is okay and not gay or lesbian parents is easy to see given the church's stance on marriage is between a man and a women. Gay or lesbian parents can't repent and become married in the sight of God, plain and simple. Hetero parents who are not married can repent and become married in the sight of God at some point.
There are many cases, especially in South America where divorce laws are so difficult that hetero people often live together and raise children without being married. Many will spend years working through the legal process of getting divorced from their previous spouse so that they can be married, but many give up on the process.
Imagine these couples are inactive when they get together and have children and later in life want to repent and return to full activity in the church. They are doing everything they can to become right in the sight of God, but the laws of the land are preventing the last step, marriage God recognizes. Their children can be baptized despite this situation.
A gay couple in the same situation still is not repenting of their "sin", thus the church policy. It comes down to do you believe acting on gay or lesbian feelings is a sin in the sight of God.
I know you didn't want a long answer, but simple short answers can be read so wrong by those seeking to find fault and criticize when no context is placed behind the answer.
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zionminded
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Only minors of polygamy parents and same gender parents are not able to be baptized.
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This says a lot about how the mormon sub-culture really has a distain for same gender relationships.
(Addendum)
This says a lot about how the mormon sub-culture really has a distain for same gender relationships.
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butterfly
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Can we check the handbook? Or is it not available for all members to view?
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I am curious by what you mean with your addendum. Are referencing my comments specifically or the topic in general? If my comments specifically, where is the disdain?zionminded wrote:Only minors of polygamy parents and same gender parents are not able to be baptized.
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This says a lot about how the mormon sub-culture really has a distain for same gender relationships.
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zionminded
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It's just in general, not about another comment or person.
It is true though. Gay sex between married couples is worse than casual heterosexual behaviors, at least that's what is taught in a sub culture level.
It is true though. Gay sex between married couples is worse than casual heterosexual behaviors, at least that's what is taught in a sub culture level.
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Zathura
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Missionaries are in this situation very often. Especially in South America where couples rarely get married, but none, one or both of the parents want to be baptized. The Kids often get baptized before either of the parents(who are living together out of the bonds of marriage).
