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Complaining about Parture

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A relatively new poster has come aboard, damning many of us to hell (me included) and denigrating many core lds beliefs.

A mod just locked one of his threads, based on having received a dozen complaints about the thread's originator and his "discussion" methods. Surely we have more to offer, as a group, than complaints. Let's engage Parture and let him either see the logic of our position or tire of the fight and leave on his own volition. I'm a big believer in Gamaliel's advice. He'll come to naught here if he continues his course. If his threads bother you, ignore him and don't engage. That's the most powerful method of self governance we have on the forum.

Brian, I don't intend this as an attack on a mod, and I hope this isn't the cause of yet another demerit.

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I didn't read any of the threads, so I didn't complain. I don't think we need anti LDS threads or posts, we have more than enough already.

This looked like a spam scenario. I applaud the mod for stepping in. We could use more.
Obrien wrote:A relatively new poster has come aboard, damning many of us to hell (me included) and denigrating many core lds beliefs.

A mod just locked one of his threads, based on having received a dozen complaints about the thread's originator and his "discussion" methods. Surely we have more to offer, as a group, than complaints. Let's engage Parture and let him either see the logic of our position or tire of the fight and leave on his own volition. I'm a big believer in Gamaliel's advice. He'll come to naught here if he continues his course. If his threads bother you, ignore him and don't engage. That's the most powerful method of self governance we have on the forum.

Brian, I don't intend this as an attack on a mod, and I hope this isn't the cause of yet another demerit.

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Quite a few forum members have tried to engage Parture on all his threads, but he has proved that he only wants to argue and condemn.

He has averaged over 70 posts per day that he has been here, and the majority of them are either stating non-LDS doctrine, or condemning those who post their LDS version of doctrine.
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This is a case of troll spamming.

One board requires a mod to approve your post before posting, which would have stopped this.

Another board requires 25 posts before you can create a thread, which also would have stopped this.

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I take it that you guys haven't heard of Troy Brooks.

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Dash jones wrote:I take it that you guys haven't heard of Troy Brooks.
I haven't. Parture never answered your question about whether he is a Troy Brooks follower, did he? Is there some sort of stigma about admitting that one follows Troy Brooks?

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Troy Brooks might not admit it.

I narrowed down his beliefs in his conversations. Some of them were...sort of out there. By that I mean they are peculiar enough to a certain individual/group that it starts to pinpoint who they might be.

He did not admit it, but when I posted the direct beliefs (some which are not accepted by any BUT Troy Brooks) he basically admitted to them.

I can't really describe him without being offensive and probably breaking the rules of this board. However, what you experienced with Parture...well...

He is what he is.


PS: He has a reputation of sorts among some Christians on the internet. If you think Mormons are bad mouthed, well...in some ways they are looked upon favorably by their enemies in comparison to Troy Brooks. That's about as close as I can come to explaining why you might want to avoid engaging Troy Brooks once you realize an account is his.

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Obrien wrote:A relatively new poster has come aboard, damning many of us to hell (me included) and denigrating many core lds beliefs.

A mod just locked one of his threads, based on having received a dozen complaints about the thread's originator and his "discussion" methods. Surely we have more to offer, as a group, than complaints. Let's engage Parture and let him either see the logic of our position or tire of the fight and leave on his own volition. I'm a big believer in Gamaliel's advice. He'll come to naught here if he continues his course. If his threads bother you, ignore him and don't engage. That's the most powerful method of self governance we have on the forum.

Brian, I don't intend this as an attack on a mod, and I hope this isn't the cause of yet another demerit.
I have to disagree here.
He is contentious and as you stated damning mormons. People have entertained him and have conversed with him very civilly and he has over stayed his welcome. I agree with the mods locking the threads.

It could spiral out of control because he is starting to irritate people. You Obrien might be okay and fine but others are not the same as you. It's kind of like the argument or fight that just needs to be broke up before someone gets hurt. People can only take so much, and many of us consider this a ldsff family kind of thing. Limiting the damage he is trying to cause is a smart thing.

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Obrien wrote:A relatively new poster has come aboard, damning many of us to hell (me included) and denigrating many core lds beliefs.

A mod just locked one of his threads, based on having received a dozen complaints about the thread's originator and his "discussion" methods. Surely we have more to offer, as a group, than complaints. Let's engage Parture and let him either see the logic of our position or tire of the fight and leave on his own volition. I'm a big believer in Gamaliel's advice. He'll come to naught here if he continues his course. If his threads bother you, ignore him and don't engage. That's the most powerful method of self governance we have on the forum.

Brian, I don't intend this as an attack on a mod, and I hope this isn't the cause of yet another demerit.
I haven't read many of his posts nor have I reported him but I suspect I might simply because if Bee was banned as a result of breaking rules then this feller should be banned too, just to keep an application of rules fair for all.

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https://www.carm.org/troy-brooks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Someone is complaining about a "troy brooks".

Hope this helps to understand if it is.♡

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Obrien wrote:A relatively new poster has come aboard, damning many of us to hell (me included) and denigrating many core lds beliefs.

A mod just locked one of his threads, based on having received a dozen complaints about the thread's originator and his "discussion" methods. Surely we have more to offer, as a group, than complaints. Let's engage Parture and let him either see the logic of our position or tire of the fight and leave on his own volition. I'm a big believer in Gamaliel's advice. He'll come to naught here if he continues his course. If his threads bother you, ignore him and don't engage. That's the most powerful method of self governance we have on the forum.

Brian, I don't intend this as an attack on a mod, and I hope this isn't the cause of yet another demerit.

Parture is a nothing but a spamming troll. Period. He doesn't ask questions, just in-your-face accusations and condemnations. He does not bring anything to this forum but the spirit of contention. I tried to find out his background so I could engage him on some common ground, but he refused. Therefore I find his intentions nefarious at best.

I applaud Brian for taking measures to stop this.

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Bee was banned? On what grounds?
After some of the garbage I have seen the mods allow, I am confused about why someone like Bee would have got booted.

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He isn't here to learn, or to help us learn.
I reasoned with him for long enough.
I don't think he even understands the nonsense that he posts.

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Parture's magic phrase like Ali Baba's "Open Sesame" to open up the door of heaven, by saying "God is alone from everlasting" did not upset me, nor his claims that I was not a brother in Christ, or going to heaven, as I have read the words of Jesus Christ and knew, his words did not match Jesus Christ's words. I only sought to enlighten him to these facts in a kind manner. He seemed to finally stop posting after my last post to him, I would hope he would awaken to his situation, of out of touch with what Jesus Christ is saying. That one must do the things Jesus Christ has said to do, if he would like to knock and have him open, as must we all.♡

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rewcox wrote:This is a case of troll spamming.

One board requires a mod to approve your post before posting, which would have stopped this.

Another board requires 25 posts before you can create a thread, which also would have stopped this.

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Thanks. :ymblushing: To clarify the approval procedure, once the initial post is approved by a mod, the rest of the posts do not need approval. Perhaps the initial post had an innocent question, but then all the rest started snowballing his contention and anti-mormon rants. I agree with Melissa in that he is full of contention and doesn't want to discuss the scriptures through the bible as many, including myself, have already tried to do.

But this thread doesn't need to start complaining and attacking Parture either or this may get locked. :ymhug:

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The first four posts have to be approved by a mod. Impatient people won't wait around for it, cause they have the need for spamming.
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rewcox wrote:This is a case of troll spamming.

One board requires a mod to approve your post before posting, which would have stopped this.

Another board requires 25 posts before you can create a thread, which also would have stopped this.

Army of Truth rocks!
Thanks! To clarify the approval procedure, once the initial post is approved by a mod, the rest of the posts do not need approval. Perhaps the initial post had an innocent question, but then all the rest started snowballing his contention and anti-mormon rants. I agree with Melissa in that he is full of contention and doesn't want to discuss the scriptures through the bible as many, including myself, have already tried to do.

But this thread doesn't need to start complaining and attacking Parture either or this may get locked. :ymhug:

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Lizzy60 wrote:Quite a few forum members have tried to engage Parture on all his threads, but he has proved that he only wants to argue and condemn.

He has averaged over 70 posts per day that he has been here, and the majority of them are either stating non-LDS doctrine, or condemning those who post their LDS version of doctrine.
Agree. Maybe he's my golden contact...:)

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Melissa wrote:
Obrien wrote:A relatively new poster has come aboard, damning many of us to hell (me included) and denigrating many core lds beliefs.

A mod just locked one of his threads, based on having received a dozen complaints about the thread's originator and his "discussion" methods. Surely we have more to offer, as a group, than complaints. Let's engage Parture and let him either see the logic of our position or tire of the fight and leave on his own volition. I'm a big believer in Gamaliel's advice. He'll come to naught here if he continues his course. If his threads bother you, ignore him and don't engage. That's the most powerful method of self governance we have on the forum.

Brian, I don't intend this as an attack on a mod, and I hope this isn't the cause of yet another demerit.
I have to disagree here.
He is contentious and as you stated damning mormons. People have entertained him and have conversed with him very civilly and he has over stayed his welcome. I agree with the mods locking the threads.

It could spiral out of control because he is starting to irritate people. You Obrien might be okay and fine but others are not the same as you. It's kind of like the argument or fight that just needs to be broke up before someone gets hurt. People can only take so much, and many of us consider this a ldsff family kind of thing. Limiting the damage he is trying to cause is a smart thing.
I'm a big, pretty mean looking guy irl - I don't really worry about fights.

If his threads got zero responses, he'd move on.

ArmyofTruth does rock.

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capctr wrote:Bee was banned? On what grounds?
After some of the garbage I have seen the mods allow, I am confused about why someone like Bee would have got booted.
Bee had a rancorous, spiteful side, if she wanted to show it. She often did, especially to the more...open-minded set. I finally put her on ignore, and my issues with her pretty much ceased.

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Robert Sinclair wrote:Parture's magic phrase like Ali Baba's "Open Sesame" to open up the door of heaven, by saying "God is alone from everlasting" did not upset me, nor his claims that I was not a brother in Christ, or going to heaven, as I have read the words of Jesus Christ and knew, his words did not match Jesus Christ's words. I only sought to enlighten him to these facts in a kind manner. He seemed to finally stop posting after my last post to him, I would hope he would awaken to his situation, of out of touch with what Jesus Christ is saying. That one must do the things Jesus Christ has said to do, if he would like to knock and have him open, as must we all.♡
Ok, I give up. If he wore Robert out, he's got a special gift. Y'all win - I'll quit sticking up for him.

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He did'nt wear me out yet, but it was an all nighter, and I was getting tired. I was finally pleased when he stopped, so I could catch some shut eye.♡

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Obrien wrote:
capctr wrote:Bee was banned? On what grounds?
After some of the garbage I have seen the mods allow, I am confused about why someone like Bee would have got booted.
Bee had a rancorous, spiteful side, if she wanted to show it. She often did, especially to the more...open-minded set. I finally put her on ignore, and my issues with her pretty much ceased.
The so called "open-minded set" can get nasty as well but I don't see some of them banned. That reminds me, Bee should've just put those little hearts after her posts like Robert does. Those things make it all better B-)

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I use those "♡"s to always remind me, if I don't feel comfortable putting it there, with good intent and not bad, I change my words. I hope I have never personally attacked any member of this forum, as all my posts are meant to help this house of Ephraim and any invited guests that come here, to see what is written about this house in the scriptures. I hope I have never been unkind to you shadow or anyone here. If I have been unkind in any way I sincerely apologize as that is never my intent.
I hope all mine are made with goodwill and peace for all of this house, as the goal. ♡

And by the way, a fellow Oregon retiree was up all night as well, freedomforall, until the sun was just about to come up over here, I am not the only one who has energy to go on all night long, sleep an hour or so and be up and ready for the next day.♡

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Looking into this now that I've been made aware...

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Parture, aka Troy Brooks, is now banned from LDSFF.

Everyone thank Obrien! :D

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