TV making women more promiscuous than men.

[Fiannan]

The dominant culture of the decadent USA appears to be making women far more likely to cheat on husbands and boyfriends than men on women:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckmXie8C0A0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Elizabeth]

LDS members should not be interested in viewing such. Otherwise why are they members?

[Fiannan]

LDS members should not be interested in viewing such. Otherwise why are they members?

Sad part is that they do. They think that if it does not have an R rating, or if it is on regular TV primetime, then it is okay. I would advance the idea that regular TV programs are far more dangerous than porn since they present a picture of what life IS like far more than porn. Under-the-radar messages are far more dangerous than something that one recognizes as both evil and unrepresentative of reality.

[Elizabeth]

I can only speak for myself, my daughter and my sons, none of us are interested in viewing or reading anything immoral.

[Fiannan]

I can only speak for myself, my daughter and my sons, none of us are interested in viewing or reading anything immoral.

Great. I do know that a lot of people in Church enjoy shows like Big Bang Theory and such and see them as harmless. However...

[braingrunt]

I remember reading something saying that lds single women were twice as likely to fornicate as lds single men.
(It might have been something Fiannan drudged up in the past)

[Fiannan]

I remember reading something saying that lds single women were twice as likely to fornicate as lds single men.
(It might have been something Fiannan drudged up in the past)

Never seen such a statistic.

[sandman45]

I remember reading something saying that lds single women were twice as likely to fornicate as lds single men.
(It might have been something Fiannan drudged up in the past)

Never seen such a statistic.

I heard (from a person from outside of Utah) that single lds women are more likely to do what was mentioned because all the lds boys are dorks, nerds, geeks, and not very many are alpha males. The LDS woman want a man to take charge and many that are willing to take charge are not LDS.

[JohnnyL]

I remember reading something saying that lds single women were twice as likely to fornicate as lds single men.
(It might have been something Fiannan drudged up in the past)

Never seen such a statistic.

I heard (from a person from outside of Utah) that single lds women are more likely to do what was mentioned because all the lds boys are dorks, nerds, geeks, and not very many are alpha males. The LDS woman want a man to take charge and many that are willing to take charge are not LDS.

No, she wants a man to sexually seduce her.

[Nan]

actually what most women want is a man who loves them and not pornography. A man who will be a spiritual leader in the home. Fiannan you are way obsessed with sex and with claiming that women are way over sexual. Seriously you have a problem. You come across incredibly creepy in the sex area.

[iWriteStuff]

.... mostly because they believe what they see on TV....

[Onsdag]

Fiannan you are way obsessed with sex and with claiming that women are way over sexual. Seriously you have a problem. You come across incredibly creepy in the sex area.

Am I missing something? :-\ I don't see anywhere in this thread where Fiannan 'obsesses' over sex... Rather, I am reading about a genuine concern over our media and how they dangerously contribute to immorality and other serious problems in our society by depicting such deviant behaviors as "normal." A fact which, I would think, should be quite apparent. 'Pornograhy' affects women just as much as it does men, but often comes in a different guise and is not as easily recognized as such.

[Sunain]

LDS members should not be interested in viewing such. Otherwise why are they members?

Sad part is that they do. They think that if it does not have an R rating, or if it is on regular TV primetime, then it is okay. I would advance the idea that regular TV programs are far more dangerous than porn since they present a picture of what life IS like far more than porn. Under-the-radar messages are far more dangerous than something that one recognizes as both evil and unrepresentative of reality.

There are shows now PG-13 or AA that we as members of the church shouldn't be watching now. The rating standards have taken a nosedive in what they deem 'appropriate' for those ratings. Extreme violence and nudity in PG-13 or AA movies isn't uncommon these days.

There really does seem to be a big shift in the media and on TV to hyper sexualize women and to make it seem like they aren't living up to their full potential unless they are taking personality traits that used to be only associated with males.

[braingrunt]

Fiannan you are way obsessed with sex and with claiming that women are way over sexual. Seriously you have a problem. You come across incredibly creepy in the sex area.

Am I missing something? :-\ I don't see anywhere in this thread where Fiannan 'obsesses' over sex... Rather, I am reading about a genuine concern over our media and how they dangerously contribute to immorality and other serious problems in our society by depicting such deviant behaviors as "normal." A fact which, I would think, should be quite apparent. 'Pornograhy' affects women just as much as it does men, but often comes in a different guise and is not as easily recognized as such.

You need to have observed Fiannan over a number of years, and you would know what she was talking about. Maybe you would still disagree, but you'd know.

[Fiannan]

Fiannan you are way obsessed with sex and with claiming that women are way over sexual. Seriously you have a problem. You come across incredibly creepy in the sex area.

Am I missing something? :-\ I don't see anywhere in this thread where Fiannan 'obsesses' over sex... Rather, I am reading about a genuine concern over our media and how they dangerously contribute to immorality and other serious problems in our society by depicting such deviant behaviors as "normal." A fact which, I would think, should be quite apparent. 'Pornograhy' affects women just as much as it does men, but often comes in a different guise and is not as easily recognized as such.

You need to have observed Fiannan over a number of years, and you would know what she was talking about. Maybe you would still disagree, but you'd know.

If you mean I do not bury my head in the sand and then wonder why the heck I get a child come home with an STD, or adopt cultural Marxism or wind up pregnant and unmarried, or wish not to have a family of their own, because I actually can recognize how psychology has been weaponized against the masses then guilty as charged. Not examining psychology and how it is used to manipulate people in western society, believing all you have to do is pray and go to your meetings, is akin to putting your swimming suit on, applying no repellent, and going fishing in the high Cascades in spring and then wondering why you get eaten alive by mosquitoes.

I have heard that sex will be the sin that brings down the saints in latter days, and I believe that might be true. Ask any young women's group what the stand of the Church is on abortion. You will be lucky if half know. And that is active girls. I know, I have done this many times when teaching these classes. Satan loves it when people ignore his weapons and just stumble onto the battlefield believing they are immune to his bullets.

[Fiannan]

actually what most women want is a man who loves them and not pornography. A man who will be a spiritual leader in the home. Fiannan you are way obsessed with sex and with claiming that women are way over sexual. Seriously you have a problem. You come across incredibly creepy in the sex area.

And does that include the guy in the video, Paul Joseph Watson?

[skmo]

actually what most women want is a man who loves them and not pornography. A man who will be a spiritual leader in the home. Fiannan you are way obsessed with sex and with claiming that women are way over sexual. Seriously you have a problem. You come across incredibly creepy in the sex area.

I have taught K-12 in Utah, Alaska, and Wyoming. I can tell you that while Utah hasn't mirrored my other experiences, girls in AK and WY are WAYYY oversexed compared to UT, and I'm sure they will catch up. I have seen elementary girls doing things they almost certainly don't understand because they see older celebs doing them. I can assure you, the rate of the sexualization of girls in this country has outstripped that of boy by a large margin in the past two decades.

[Mark]

Fiannan you are way obsessed with sex and with claiming that women are way over sexual. Seriously you have a problem. You come across incredibly creepy in the sex area.

Am I missing something? :-\ I don't see anywhere in this thread where Fiannan 'obsesses' over sex... Rather, I am reading about a genuine concern over our media and how they dangerously contribute to immorality and other serious problems in our society by depicting such deviant behaviors as "normal." A fact which, I would think, should be quite apparent. 'Pornograhy' affects women just as much as it does men, but often comes in a different guise and is not as easily recognized as such.

You need to have observed Fiannan over a number of years, and you would know what she was talking about. Maybe you would still disagree, but you'd know.

Indeed. The man has some serious ocd issues when it comes to anything sex related. Perhaps a suggestion here might be helpful. Maybe some private emails with Col. Flagg discussing some of his deep seeded "affection frustrations" would fill the tank for you Sigmund Fiannan. Give it a whirl bro. Might be great therapy for you both.

[SouEu]

I remember reading something saying that lds single women were twice as likely to fornicate as lds single men.
(It might have been something Fiannan drudged up in the past)

There was a study and a survey that the Church did some years ago that was directed to the youth and young adults. In that study the young women engaged in sexual intercourse and other sexual acts about twice as much as the young men in the Church. Also, twice as many young men were virgins at the time of marriage than the young women in the church.

It was quite eye-opening, and I'm sure if you search enough you might be able to pull up the study. I remember that young men were a lot worse with pornography, drugs, and violence. The young women drank slightly more, and shoplifted more than the young men from what I remember.

I wonder if that is one reason that they lowered the age of missions for the young women from 21 to 19, and to promote more female missionaries. One reason that I felt that the young men may have remained morally clean over the young women is that they were looking forward to a mission, and didn't want to jeopardize their chance of going.

[Fiannan]

Indeed. The man has some serious ocd issues when it comes to anything sex related. Perhaps a suggestion here might be helpful. Maybe some private emails with Col. Flagg discussing some of his deep seeded "affection frustrations" would fill the tank for you Sigmund Fiannan. Give it a whirl bro. Might be great therapy for you both.

[Fiannan]

actually what most women want is a man who loves them and not pornography. A man who will be a spiritual leader in the home. Fiannan you are way obsessed with sex and with claiming that women are way over sexual. Seriously you have a problem. You come across incredibly creepy in the sex area.

I have taught K-12 in Utah, Alaska, and Wyoming. I can tell you that while Utah hasn't mirrored my other experiences, girls in AK and WY are WAYYY oversexed compared to UT, and I'm sure they will catch up. I have seen elementary girls doing things they almost certainly don't understand because they see older celebs doing them. I can assure you, the rate of the sexualization of girls in this country has outstripped that of boy by a large margin in the past two decades.

Girls in Church watch the same children's networks, same soaps (prime time), same music videos, and same movies as their non-Mormon counterparts. The average American spends 5 hours in front of a TV per day, slightly less for younger people, slightly more for older. These Mormon girls, if active, have three hours per week in Church on Sunday, seminary if available and various weekly activities. They are getting a lot of propaganda and much of it is under-the-radar which is designed to undermine religion and family. As you have educated young people you are also aware of educational curricula that is designed to create behavioral change and that the less obvious it is, the more powerful it is. If our young people are not taught how media manipulate, and education as well, they will incorporate the messages and as the power of the society is pervasive many will opt for the message of society over Church.

[gclayjr]

I'm sure that all of this is true because I heard all this from a friend of a person whose professor knows somebody who did a study, and from a friend of somebody whose cousin's friend's daughter was totally out of control.

Regards,

George Clay

[skmo]

My observation came from my personal experiences. I can't speak for others.

[wargames83]

The dominant culture of the decadent USA appears to be making women far more likely to cheat on husbands and boyfriends than men on women:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckmXie8C0A0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So if some guy on youtube says so, that means it is true. The fact that the Ashley Madison scandal showed that the vast majority of accounts were made by men would suggest otherwise.

[Fiannan]

The dominant culture of the decadent USA appears to be making women far more likely to cheat on husbands and boyfriends than men on women:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckmXie8C0A0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So if some guy on youtube says so, that means it is true. The fact that the Ashley Madison scandal showed that the vast majority of accounts were made by men would suggest otherwise.

Yeah, someone said that chlamydia is rampant within female populations.

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/sex-and-love/common-stds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maybe they caught it on toilet seats?

Of course this is all part of a plot to undermine the fact that morality is as strong in the USA today as in 1960.