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Just all the more reason to fight Obama, Hillary and the democrats trying to undermine our second amendment rights, donate to the NRA today to help the fight, and yes, I am a member.

One thing I would like to point out is that many people are fearful of Islam due to a perceived threat of crime increasing. Yet when the Shah was thrown out, and hundreds of thousands of Iranians fled Iran, there was no problems. Why? Because the people who escaped were primarily of the middle and upper classes. The people surging into Europe now are primarily of the lower classes, displaced young men without jobs or education within the societies they originate from.

That is a very dangerous aspect to this situation.

Most Islamic terrorists in the US come from the middle and upper classes!

The Shah was secular. He had no problem with Christians and Jews. When the Ayatollah returned it was primarily those Christian, Jewish and secular Iranians that fled to the U.S.

Regards,

George Clay

gclayjr wrote:Most Islamic terrorists in the US come from the middle and upper classes!

The Shah was secular. He had no problem with Christians and Jews. When the Ayatollah returned it was primarily those Christian, Jewish and secular Iranians that fled to the U.S.

Regards,

George Clay

Who is talking about terrorism? I think Europeans are more worried about drugs, rape, murder, theft and sex slavery.

My brother lives in Austria. Says he sees Islamic migrants on the roads every day going to work. He wishes Austria had done what Hungary did, but it's too late...and fears that with the winter coming, they might start getting violent.

NRA has compromised themselves so many times its a joke to the gun toting world....

Jason,

I'm not sure I understand. I know that the PC crowd ridicules the NRA, and tries to portray all NRA members as Christian White Trash, but I'm not sure what the NRA has done to discredit themselves.

Regards,

George Clay

Magus wrote:My brother lives in Austria. Says he sees Islamic migrants on the roads every day going to work. He wishes Austria had done what Hungary did, but it's too late...and fears that with the winter coming, they might start getting violent.

Not to worry. The governments of Europe, thanks to Germany and Sweden, now have hundreds of thousands of displaced young men (some are children though...children with bald heads and beards claiming to be 14) in their borders. They will not allow them to starve or be cold. So they will borrow billions and billions of Euros to provide for these men who could not even get jobs in their home countries of Somalia, Eritrea, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Mali and a few from Syria, not many, but a few. After a couple of years the governments of the smaller nations will not be able to provide any more services and will be in the same boat as Greece. This will enable the banks and IMF to step in and force everyone to undergo both austerity and come together as a European super-state.

I have been both to Rome and Paris. To tell you the truth I would not take a family to Paris for a holiday -- not the safest place to visit. Rome you have to make sure your wallet is secure against Gypsy pickpockets. It is fairly safe overall in Rome but I am not sure how long that will last.

I've worked in Sweden and in the Czech Republic. Prague is pretty rough, particularly with theft and prostitution. I did most of my work in Sweden in a city called Lund. This is mostly a college town, and pretty safe, except for maybe getting run down by bizzilions of people riding bicycles. However, I also visited Malmo, and the crime there is much more rampant. Look up Malmo and you might get a hint (...might have something to do with immigration).

Another hint of a potential problem in Europe. See if you can figure it out from the below:

If somebody flies from somewhere in Europe to ... say Montreal Canada, but they change planes at JFK in New York, they will never be processed into the U.S., and will have no U.S. stamps in their passport.

I have flown many times to Copenhagen, then taken the train to Sweden. I have no Swedish stamps on my passport nor entry stamps for Denmark on my passport, however I have a lot of French stamps on my passport although I have never visited France. Why is that?

Regards,

George Clay

Fiannan wrote:I have been both to Rome and Paris. To tell you the truth I would not take a family to Paris for a holiday -- not the safest place to visit. Rome you have to make sure your wallet is secure against Gypsy pickpockets. It is fairly safe overall in Rome but I am not sure how long that will last.

I actually spent 3 days in Paris this summer with my wife and 3 year old boy. We didn't stay at a hotel, but rented a small studio apartment just down the street from the Eiffel Tower from someone who happened to be a Muslim. The dude tried to put on a nice face, but was irritable over dumb stuff and when we told him the shower drain was clogged when we arrived, he flipped his lid at us. I responded reasonably through email (it was our last night there) but decided I didn't want to get too much on his bad side considering he knew where we were staying and had a key to our apartment and who knows, maybe he has some crazy Jihadi friends or something.

We were also really surprised at the lack of actual ethnic French people in Paris. The place at times felt more like Dubai than the capital of France. Lots of African and Middle Eastern immigrants, lots of Muslims. And in an interesting juxtaposition, as Americans who live in heavily black areas, we recall feeling a general hidden sentiment of resentment and/or anger from black Americans here in the USA, but in France, the feeling from black French citizens seemed to be more one of willing assimilation - but not so from the French Muslims, you could sense a certain bubbling undercurrent of hostility or resistance from many of them, like they weren't there to assimilate at all.

Paris is a lovely city, but definitely has a cultural problem that puts it in a dangerous situation....it was unlike other parts in France we visited, where there wasn't an immigration/cultural problem.

In the past poor white people would look down on black people - even the ones who had more education or better jobs. This gave them a sense of superiority driving from being white. Poor Muslims likewise look down on anyone who is either non Muslim (infidel or heathen) or a Muslim who lives western ideals and assimilates. The danger is bringing in men who people like Saddam had to use brute force to control and expecting them to live like metrosexual Frenchmen. They will not assimilate, they will not be able to get regular jobs, and there will be trouble, big trouble.

Fiannan,

We so often butt heads, I guess I should note when I agree with you.

By the way Do you know why I have so many French stamps on my passport?

Regards,

George Clay

gclayjr wrote:Jason,

I'm not sure I understand. I know that the PC crowd ridicules the NRA, and tries to portray all NRA members as Christian White Trash, but I'm not sure what the NRA has done to discredit themselves.

Regards,

George Clay

Study their history....riddled with compromise and selling out.

Other groups out there more purposed and faithful like GOA (Gun Owners of America)....but NRA is the big dog.