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Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 27th, 2015, 8:52 pm
by freedomforall
Strategic Relocation by Joel Skousen (Why There Will Be No Collapse Now)
A Nuclear Strike is ahead in our future.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 27th, 2015, 10:02 pm
by ilovetherain
I viewed this a few years back. You should post the date. Joel has been on Alex Jones' show a few times.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 27th, 2015, 11:40 pm
by freedomforall
ilovetherain wrote:I viewed this a few years back. You should post the date. Joel has been on Alex Jones' show a few times.
I merely think that it is important to let people know that the Mayan calendar concerning end times calamities and such, is all made up according to Joel. Several people on this forum have commented on them and have spread gloom and doom in the process.
I'm not that concerned about those on the forum as much as any lurkers that may be interested in this that hadn't heard it before. Perhaps it will peak some people's desire to know what's true and what's not.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 28th, 2015, 5:01 pm
by Robin Hood
Why on earth would Russia launch an unprovoked nuclear attack on the US?
To do so would be suicide for them. It would result in a massive retaliatory response from the US, the UK, and France.
Ridiculous.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 28th, 2015, 6:48 pm
by EmmaLee
No idea what the UK or France would do, but the US, thanks to Clinton and the presidents after him, will not be retaliating as you suggest. We will be absorbing a first strike, which of course, will render us impotent. Read up on -
PDD/NSC 60
Nuclear Weapons Employment Policy Guidance
November 1997
Of course, believing this is even, or could be even, a real thing requires a person to do some in depth research on many related topics (which takes a lot of time and effort and paradigm shifts - most prefer not to bother), and doesn't just automatically believe what they hear on mainstream media to the exclusion of all else.
We will be hit, I'm sure, but who knows when. Joel has said it's "within the next 5 years" for the last 20+ years, but saying anything different would be bad for his business - he's got to keep us afraid, but with the "out" that there's still time to hire him to build one of his $$$ shelters - hence, his always saying it's yet another 5+ years down the road. Other than that, I mostly agree with his views.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 28th, 2015, 7:07 pm
by freedomforall
Robin Hood wrote:Why on earth would Russia launch an unprovoked nuclear attack on the US?
To do so would be suicide for them. It would result in a massive retaliatory response from the US, the UK, and France.
Ridiculous.
That's because most of us are not experts in the field of country interactions and what really takes place behind closed doors.
Bro Skousen has been in this line of expertise for many years. I think it all falls under the heading "In The Know". He knows things that he didn't know before he started, therefore, he knows what he didn't know, he didn't know.
Seems to me our church Presidents tried getting the saints to read the Constitution to the point they could defend and uphold it by voting for honest, wise and good candidates...but that never happened.
Someone said that "whatever happens in politics it was planned that way."
How many people know that the CIA was administering LSD to unsuspecting people as far back as 1955, perhaps 53, just to see what they would do under its influence. How many people know of the wiretaps on a multitude of Americans in order to hear their conversations. How many people know about Watergate, and why Nixon resigned?
How many people know that under the Nixon administration guns were given to the enemy to be fired against American troops in Vietnam?
How many people wonder why Pearl Harbor was so easily attacked?
I don't think Bro Skousen should be ignored, nor Gary Allen.
LSD
Syphilis
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 28th, 2015, 7:13 pm
by freedomforall
EmmaLee wrote:No idea what the UK or France would do, but the US, thanks to Clinton and the presidents after him, will not be retaliating as you suggest. We will be absorbing a first strike, which of course, will render us impotent. Read up on -
PDD/NSC 60
Nuclear Weapons Employment Policy Guidance
November 1997
Of course, believing this is even, or could be even, a real thing requires a person to do some in depth research on many related topics (which takes a lot of time and effort and paradigm shifts - most prefer not to bother), and doesn't just automatically believe what they hear on mainstream media to the exclusion of all else.
We will be hit, I'm sure, but who knows when. Joel has said it's "within the next 5 years" for the last 20+ years, but saying anything different would be bad for his business - he's got to keep us afraid, but with the "out" that there's still time to hire him to build one of his $$$ shelters - hence, his always saying it's yet another 5+ years down the road. Other than that, I mostly agree with his views.
I agree that putting a time on events is fruitless, but the message should be analyzed and taken into consideration.
People didn't want to believe Abinidi either and burned him to death, yet the message he gave turned out true. Besides, just how much Mayan prophecy has ever come to pass or ever will?
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 28th, 2015, 7:47 pm
by EmmaLee
freedomforall wrote:EmmaLee wrote:No idea what the UK or France would do, but the US, thanks to Clinton and the presidents after him, will not be retaliating as you suggest. We will be absorbing a first strike, which of course, will render us impotent. Read up on -
PDD/NSC 60
Nuclear Weapons Employment Policy Guidance
November 1997
Of course, believing this is even, or could be even, a real thing requires a person to do some in depth research on many related topics (which takes a lot of time and effort and paradigm shifts - most prefer not to bother), and doesn't just automatically believe what they hear on mainstream media to the exclusion of all else.
We will be hit, I'm sure, but who knows when. Joel has said it's "within the next 5 years" for the last 20+ years, but saying anything different would be bad for his business - he's got to keep us afraid, but with the "out" that there's still time to hire him to build one of his $$$ shelters - hence, his always saying it's yet another 5+ years down the road. Other than that, I mostly agree with his views.
I agree that putting a time on events is fruitless, but the message should be analyzed and taken into consideration. People didn't want to believe Abinidi either and burned him to death, yet the message he gave turned out true.
Agreed, and we've been analyzing and considering all this for 20+ years now. We have all of Joel's books, have talked to him about a few plans, and have implemented some of them. Have you?
Besides, just how much Mayan prophecy has ever come to pass or ever will?
Not sure what you're inferring by the Mayan prophecy comment. I, personally, have never given any credence to it.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 28th, 2015, 8:05 pm
by OCDMOM
I've been watching Joel Skousen. He was right about Boehner doing a lot of damage before he officially steps down as speaker.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 28th, 2015, 8:29 pm
by freedomforall
EmmaLee wrote:freedomforall wrote:EmmaLee wrote:No idea what the UK or France would do, but the US, thanks to Clinton and the presidents after him, will not be retaliating as you suggest. We will be absorbing a first strike, which of course, will render us impotent. Read up on -
PDD/NSC 60
Nuclear Weapons Employment Policy Guidance
November 1997
Of course, believing this is even, or could be even, a real thing requires a person to do some in depth research on many related topics (which takes a lot of time and effort and paradigm shifts - most prefer not to bother), and doesn't just automatically believe what they hear on mainstream media to the exclusion of all else.
We will be hit, I'm sure, but who knows when. Joel has said it's "within the next 5 years" for the last 20+ years, but saying anything different would be bad for his business - he's got to keep us afraid, but with the "out" that there's still time to hire him to build one of his $$$ shelters - hence, his always saying it's yet another 5+ years down the road. Other than that, I mostly agree with his views.
I agree that putting a time on events is fruitless, but the message should be analyzed and taken into consideration. People didn't want to believe Abinidi either and burned him to death, yet the message he gave turned out true.
Agreed, and we've been analyzing and considering all this for 20+ years now. We have all of Joel's books, have talked to him about a few plans, and have implemented some of them. Have you?
Besides, just how much Mayan prophecy has ever come to pass or ever will?
Not sure what you're inferring by the Mayan prophecy comment. I, personally, have never given any credence to it.
Just ordered "Naked Communist", "Naked Socialist", "Naked Capitalist", "The Naked Socialist Study Guide", "The Secure Home", "Strategic Relocation: North American Guide to Safe Places" and "Strategic Relocation Documentary Film" (DVD) from Amazon.
According to Joel, The calamities based on the end of the Mayan calendar is bunk.
He also says 911 was a government engineered event from beginning to end and that which is coming will make 911 look like a picnic. See OP video from the 25:55 mark.
Joel says that a collapse will not foment a NWO takeover. But a nuclear attack on America will cause America to run into the arms of NWO thinking they will be safe, yet from what I see, Americans will have run into a cocoon built by a massive spider to be eaten at will. This is the strategy we face and have done so from years and years ago.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 28th, 2015, 8:43 pm
by EmmaLee
Yep, agreed on all of it. ^^^ Love your book choices - you will not be disappointed!
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 29th, 2015, 2:09 am
by Robin Hood
The UK and France would be obligated under the NATO articles (article 4 I believe) to come to America's aid in such a circumstance. Perhaps that is why Joseph predicted that Britain and France would hold the balance of power and prevent Russia from conquering the world (see White Horse Prophecy).
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 29th, 2015, 6:02 am
by Robin Hood
I have just watched the entire Infowars.com broadcast.
I can't believe Skousen can sit there with a straight face!
"The Russians are going to nuke us. Get prepared....... oh and buy my book"
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 29th, 2015, 11:33 am
by OCDMOM
I ran intends to dispatch “a fleet of warships” to the Atlantic Ocean shortly.
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Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 29th, 2015, 5:28 pm
by freedomforall
Robin Hood wrote:I have just watched the entire Infowars.com broadcast.
I can't believe Skousen can sit there with a straight face!
"The Russians are going to nuke us. Get prepared....... oh and buy my book"
Have you thrown away your scriptures because God says that he will destroy the wicked? Eyes of people will fall from their sockets, maggots will eat human flesh and flesh will fall off of bones?
D&C 29
14 But, behold, I say unto you that before this great day shall come the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall be turned into blood, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and there shall be greater signs in heaven above and in the earth beneath;
15 And there shall be weeping and wailing among the hosts of men;
16 And there shall be a great hailstorm sent forth to destroy the crops of the earth.
17 And it shall come to pass, because of the wickedness of the world, that I will take vengeance upon the wicked, for they will not repent; for the cup of mine indignation is full; for behold, my blood shall not cleanse them if they hear me not.
18 Wherefore, I the Lord God will send forth flies (plague) upon the face of the earth, which shall take hold of the inhabitants thereof, and shall eat their flesh, and shall cause maggots to come in upon them;
19 And their tongues shall be stayed that they shall not utter against me; and their flesh shall fall from off their bones, and their eyes from their sockets;
20 And it shall come to pass that the beasts of the forest and the fowls of the air shall devour them up.
21 And the great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall be cast down by devouring fire, according as it is spoken by the mouth of Ezekiel the prophet, who spoke of these things, which have not come to pass but surely must, as I live, for abominations shall not reign.
Whether we get nucked or not, the description of the conditions the people of the world will be in is mighty bleak...and real.
So mock if you feel so inclined if it makes you feel better.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 30th, 2015, 2:33 am
by Robin Hood
I do believe the scriptures, just not Skousen.
He claims that nuclear weapons don't harm you if you avoid the initial blast. He says the radiation that follows is "clean" and has no effect after 2 weeks!
I'm sorry, but the man's an idiot.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 30th, 2015, 3:46 am
by davedan
Robin Hood wrote:Why on earth would Russia launch an unprovoked nuclear attack on the US?
To do so would be suicide for them. It would result in a massive retaliatory response from the US, the UK, and France.
Ridiculous.
Robin- Why call Skousen an idiot but do not back up your ad hominem attack with substantive counter arguments. What do you know about nuclear weapons effects and fallout?
1.The US globalist are trying their best to provoke Russia with low oil prices, in Georgia, Ukraine, Iran and Syria. US involvement in the Middle East is designed to make the US look like the "bully of the world".
2. Russia has modernized (TopoM) all their nuclear weapons systems while the US is unilaterally dismantling ours.
3. The world economy is set up to benefit the US. Russia and China are thinking to set up a world economy that benefits China or Russia instead.
4. Globalist want to induce China and Russia to decapitate our military so we will give up our national sovereignty to NATO/TTP to prosecute WW3. After attack, the US will have little military left.
5. Nuclear First-strike on the US is not lethal as long as you live outsude blast radius (10miles) and you have clean water and food to eat until fallout dissipates. Nuclear weapons do not contaminate long-term like Chernobyl and Fukushima. Remember, people live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki today with no problems.
6. US nuclear missiles have been taken off "launch on warning". Silos must be given codes by president Obama to launch. After absorbing an attack, President Obama will stand down. He will not retaliate nor will there be much of anything left to retaliate with left.
7. Regular Soviet Bear Bomber flights into artic are to launch cruise missiles to hit our bombers on the ground.
8. The Start 2 Treaty has de-MIRV'ed our minuteman 2 missiles. Now we have 1 missile, 1 warhead that even if launched could be taken out easily by Russian and Chinese anti-ballistic missiles. On the other hand, Russian TopoMs and DF-41 can carry 10 maneuverable warheads each.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 30th, 2015, 4:55 am
by Robin Hood
People lived in Hiroshima and Nagasaki for decades with horrendous problems!
Babies were being born with awful deformities decades later.
This is why I said Skousen is an idiot. He needs to understand that just because he says something that he thinks ought to be true, doesn't make it so.
But in another sense he's no idiot. His line appears to be to scare us all silly through his "expert" analysis (not forgetting the Skousen name of course), tell us we're doomed, but then offer us a chink of light..... a modicum of hope. All we have to do is buy his book and follow the detailed advice therein.
So a human life to him is worth no more than the profit on a book sale.
Reminds me of our friend JR.
I've just looked at his website and he comments on Russian and Chinese objections to America's anti ballistic missile systems (ABM), but completely misses the point. He thinks their objection is based on their plans to launch a first strike at the US. But an American ABM makes the Russian position perilous in their eyes because it exposes them to conventional war.
Although Russia has stated it will never launch first, NATO's position has always been that it (meaning NATO) will. The scenario is that the Russians invade western European allies with overwhelming forces. The British, German and US forces hold them for about 4 days until it's obvious the superior Russian numbers are going to prevail. At which point Washington get on the blower to Moscow and say "fall back or we launch".
This MAD (mutually assured destruction) scenario has ensured that this has never happened and the deterent has worked.
From the Russian viewpoint ABM's are a game changer because if the roles are reversed and NATO was the aggressor threatening Russian real estate (Ukraine for example), Russia wouldn't have the same option. They call Washington and say "pull back or we launch" and Washington, with an ABM in place, simply replies "do your worst".
That is why Russia regards ABM's as an aggressive weapon, not as a defensive one.
We also have to bear in mind that Russia looks at the world differently. They have long memories.They remember the German invasion of their homeland and the subsequent loss of 20 million Soviet lives. They know about the British inspired plan to push east at the conclusion of WWII and push the Soviets back to Moscow and beyond in order to finish what Hitler started. They look at a map of the world and from their standpoint they are literally surrounded by enemies on all sides. In short, they are paranoid and with good cause.
Skousen may consider himself an expert, but that is certainly not an accolade I would give him.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 30th, 2015, 5:31 pm
by OCDMOM
Obama is putting some troops in Syria. Boots on the ground.
Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 30th, 2015, 10:32 pm
by freedomforall
Robin Hood wrote:I do believe the scriptures, just not Skousen.
He claims that nuclear weapons don't harm you if you avoid the initial blast. He says the radiation that follows is "clean" and has no effect after 2 weeks!
I'm sorry, but the man's an idiot.
A few weeks ago my wife and I were in SLC. While there, we were talking to someone at Thrive, just south of the point of the mountain off the I-15. We were told that there is some pills that when taken daily will keep radiation from harming you.
Here, take your pick of information:
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Potassium Iodide radiation protection tablets
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How to Survive a Nuclear Attack
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Re: Is A Nuclear Strike ahead in our future? Joel Skousen Speaks Out
Posted: October 30th, 2015, 10:48 pm
by freedomforall
OCDMOM wrote:Obama is putting some troops in Syria. Boots on the ground.
I hope there are people with their feet in those boots. :))
Just funnin' I and all other troops were referred to as a boots while in the Marines, not to mention Jarheads, Girls, Bulldogs and several less nice ones I can't list here.
Carry on and Semper Fi.