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What I would not give to turn back the clock to when the youth respected the modesty standards of the church.

2EstablishZion wrote:I'd advise you, but back in my youth, even after my mission, I would go to the beach wearing a speedo that left little to the imagination.

I personally think our Western Society has way too many hangups regarding our bodies and how many layers we need to be under to be "decent".

I only had sons, I likely could relate a lot more if I had some daughters to be protective of.

MormonPatriot wrote:Thank you all for the responses. I mostly just needed to get this off my chest.

I know she is a good girl.

I just cannot stand what the god hating liberals have done to this country.

MormonPatriot wrote:Thank you all for the responses. I mostly just needed to get this off my chest.

I know she is a good girl.

I just cannot stand what the god hating liberals have done to this country. :(

Sandinista wrote:Really, a speedo? Unless you were built like Arnold Schwarzenegger what were you thinking? 8-|

gkearney wrote:

MormonPatriot wrote:Thank you all for the responses. I mostly just needed to get this off my chest.

I know she is a good girl.

I just cannot stand what the god hating liberals have done to this country.

What about us liberals who do not hate God?

Separatist wrote:God hating liberals are responsible for sleeveless shirts?

MormonPatriot wrote:I have a 19 year old daughter. She is beautiful. She is active in the church and she is a patriot (I raised her well).

She has been attending the local community college and going to institute and the single's ward.

For the past year, we have been in a battle with her over modesty. She says that her mother and I are being over protective.

We want her to wear garment ready clothing (she hasn't gone to the temple yet).

She insists that all the girls at church dress this way until they go to the temple. How can this be? Where are the parents???

It is not that she is wearing mini skirts and her breasts are falling out....don't get me wrong, but most of the skirts she wears would not cover garments. And definitely the shirts would not cover the shoulder area of the garments.

This is causing me so much heartache that it is hard to sleep.

This past summer she went to the water part with her friends and refused to were shorts over her swimsuit. I even told her they could be short shorts if she wanted.

What I would not give to turn back the clock to when the youth respected the modesty standards of the church.

This scripture says we must lead by “principles of righteousness.” Such principles apply to all leaders in the Church as well as to all fathers and mothers in their homes.3 We lose our right to the Lord’s Spirit and to whatever authority we have from God when we exercise control over another person in an unrighteous manner.4 We may think such methods are for the good of the one being “controlled.” But anytime we try to compel someone to righteousness who can and should be exercising his or her own moral agency, we are acting unrighteously. When setting firm limits for another person is in order, those limits should always be administered with loving patience and in a way that teaches eternal principles.

We simply cannot force others to do the right thing. The scriptures make it clear that this is not God’s way. Compulsion builds resentment. It conveys mistrust, and it makes people feel incompetent. Learning opportunities are lost when controlling persons pridefully assume they have all the right answers for others. The scriptures say that “it is the nature and disposition of almost all men” to engage in this “unrighteous dominion,”5 so we should be aware that it’s an easy trap to fall into. Women too may exercise unrighteous dominion, though the scriptures identify the problem especially with men.

Unrighteous dominion is often accompanied by constant criticism and the withholding of approval or love. Those on the receiving end feel they can never please such leaders or parents and that they always fall short. Wise parents must weigh when children are ready to begin exercising their own agency in a particular area of their lives. But if parents hold on to all decision-making power and see it as their “right,” they severely limit the growth and development of their children.

Jezebel wrote:Honestly, it sounds like your daughter understands modesty better than you do. Modesty is not something you can measure with a measuring tape even though we try to. Modesty is something that is inside of us. When we start measuring modesty with measuring tapes we've missed the point.

My bishop when I was a teenager taught me a way to measure modesty that has been more beneficial to me than any other method. He taught me that if you're dressed in modestly you'll be tugging on your clothes tugging up on your neckline or down on the bottom of your shorts. That was the best advice that I could have ever gotten. It helped me learn how to measure modesty from the inside out.

The way your daughter is dressing is not going to affect her eternal salvation. However, your trust in her and whether or not you are trying to force your will on her is very likely to affect her eternal salvation. And it will affect yours. If I were you, I would be rethinking the way I look at modesty. It's not so important that it's worth damaging your relationship with your daughter over. With the way your daughter is dressing right now that really is the danger that is affecting your eternal salvation.

MormonPatriot wrote:What I would not give to turn back the clock to when the youth respected the modesty standards of the church.