Allodial Title, Covenant and Deed
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Robert Sinclair
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Your version is not true.Robert Sinclair wrote:It is written in the "One Stick", and is 100% true.♡
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Robert Sinclair
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Dreams are dreams, visions are visions, but face to face meetings in the flesh where he walks with you and talks with you, and eats with you, you shall not have, until you keep all his commandments which he has given you.
Then when you call, he will come to you saying, "Here I am".♡
Then when you call, he will come to you saying, "Here I am".♡
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jsbaugh
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I didn't even know he wasn't a member of the church. That explains a lot. What a waste of time. Somebody please boot him off this forum, he is basically trolling.
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The story of my life.Obrien wrote:Shadow is underperforming...
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Robert Sinclair
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I am an elder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Mean spirited people should be ashamed.♡
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I didn't know you claimed that. Similar to DeepWater and BofM.Robert Sinclair wrote:Dreams are dreams, visions are visions, but face to face meetings in the flesh where he walks with you and talks with you, and eats with you, you shall not have, until you keep all his commandments which he has given you.
Then when you call, he will come to you saying, "Here I am".♡
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Robert Sinclair
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I thought you once said you were excommed.Robert Sinclair wrote:I am an elder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Mean spirited people should be ashamed.♡
Mean spirited people should stop and smell the roses. Are you done attacking the church?
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Robert Sinclair
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No mean spirited feelings in my heart for the House of Ephraim, or the church, just as the Lord has no mean spirited feelings towards his children, whom messages I have repeated.
Be equal in your temporal things, for homes and lands, as well as just food and raiment, all things common among you of your own freewill, no poor among you, because of the love of God and one another you have in your hearts.
Live in peace and goodwill, among the happiest people ever created by the hand of God.
As Jacob son of Lehi said----
"O be wise, what can I say more."
No one in my family is excommunicated, we just choose to wait, till it is safe, to speak the truth and not be rended, and the heads of Ephraim acknowledge their offence against God, of rejecting his celestial law, and return to keep the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ, then we shall return happily.♡
Be equal in your temporal things, for homes and lands, as well as just food and raiment, all things common among you of your own freewill, no poor among you, because of the love of God and one another you have in your hearts.
Live in peace and goodwill, among the happiest people ever created by the hand of God.
As Jacob son of Lehi said----
"O be wise, what can I say more."
No one in my family is excommunicated, we just choose to wait, till it is safe, to speak the truth and not be rended, and the heads of Ephraim acknowledge their offence against God, of rejecting his celestial law, and return to keep the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ, then we shall return happily.♡
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Can't be isolated Robert, it doesn't work that way. You have disfellowshipped yourself.Robert Sinclair wrote:No mean spirited feelings in my heart for the House of Ephraim, or the church, just as the Lord has no mean spirited feelings towards his children, whom messages I have repeated.
Be equal in your temporal things, for homes and lands, as well as just food and raiment, all things common among you of your own freewill, no poor among you, because of the love of God and one another you have in your hearts.
Live in peace and goodwill, among the happiest people ever created by the hand of God.
As Jacob son of Lehi said----
"O be wise, what can I say more."
No one in my family is excommunicated, we just choose to wait, till it is safe, to speak the truth and not be rended, and the heads of Ephraim acknowledge their offence against God, of rejecting his celestial law, and return to keep the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ, then we shall return happily.♡
How does His Church accomplish the Lord’s purposes? It is important to recognize that God’s ultimate purpose is our progress. His desire is that we continue “from grace to grace, until [we receive] a fulness”5 of all He can give. That requires more than simply being nice or feeling spiritual. It requires faith in Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism of water and of the Spirit, and enduring in faith to the end.6 One cannot fully achieve this in isolation, so a major reason the Lord has a church is to create a community of Saints that will sustain one another in the “strait and narrow path which leads to eternal life.”7
“And [Christ] gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
In the Church we not only learn divine doctrine; we also experience its application. As the body of Christ, the members of the Church minister to one another in the reality of day-to-day life. All of us are imperfect; we may offend and be offended. We often test one another with our personal idiosyncrasies. In the body of Christ, we have to go beyond concepts and exalted words and have a real “hands-on” experience as we learn to “live together in love.”15
This religion is not concerned only with self; rather, we are all called to serve. We are the eyes, hands, head, feet, and other members of the body of Christ, and even “those members … which seem to be more feeble, are necessary.”16 We need these callings, and we need to serve.
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Robert Sinclair
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Sorry just don't care to be kicked in the shins, or have dirt thrown on me, or have jsbaugh, grab me by the shirt, and throw me out the front door of the chapel, saying I am banned from coming, so long as I keep saying the things I say, about giving homes to poor people from the tithes and offerings of the storehouse treasury of the LORD, until all have sufficient for their needs and wants, and then, and only then, spend the "residue" assets on building mega million dollar temples, or buying half a billion dollar tracts of land, God has commanded. And for me saying there will be no testimony of any of these leaders of face to face meetings with Jesus Christ in the flesh, where he walks and talks, with them, and they able to return and give testimony, till they acknowledge the offence against God, and atone.♡
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jsbaugh
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Robert your beliefs are in opposition to the church's and you don't support the prophet or the church leaders. If you are a member do you pay tithing and are you temple worthy?
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He doesn't attend church so that is a no on that question.jsbaugh wrote:Robert your beliefs are in opposition to the church's and you don't support the prophet or the church leaders. If you are a member do you pay tithing and are you temple worthy?
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Robert Sinclair
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Ask the poor in my ward who I pay my tithing to and fast offerings of my surplus, or the poor on this forum who have cried out for help, or the beggars at temple square, you have no clue who I am do you, jsbaugh? I love my wife and cleave unto her and none else, and I love my children, and all the childen of God, to the very best of my ability, and hate no one. And I support the prophet and twelve and seventy, more than they may as yet realize, but they will, when the time is right. I am more pro-LDS than you understand as yet but you will when the time is right.♡
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jsbaugh
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If that is true then I would say the least of his problems are whether the poor have homes.rewcox wrote:He doesn't attend church so that is a no on that question.jsbaugh wrote:Robert your beliefs are in opposition to the church's and you don't support the prophet or the church leaders. If you are a member do you pay tithing and are you temple worthy?
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Robert Sinclair
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You think I have problems, you should read the Book of Enoch the Prophet. Those last twelve and seventy shepherds, and their blind sheep are both judged found guilty, and thrust into the fiery abyss.♡
And, jsbaugh, do you even obey the commandments of Jesus Christ to not ask for things back that are stolen from you, or if sued, just let it go and give even more?
You don't have to answer, but I would that you would consider that you must prove yourself in all his commandments, whether you will keep them or not.♡
And, jsbaugh, do you even obey the commandments of Jesus Christ to not ask for things back that are stolen from you, or if sued, just let it go and give even more?
You don't have to answer, but I would that you would consider that you must prove yourself in all his commandments, whether you will keep them or not.♡
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Right there with you, bro.shadow wrote:The story of my life.Obrien wrote:Shadow is underperforming...
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Allodial Title is a false title. Just as Fee Simple Title is also a false title.
They are only occupancy permits from Satan's Occupying Force.
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Joint ownership with Christ. (company property)
In America, and in the countries that continued in the tradition of the lost tribes of Israel, joint ownership with Christ has always been called "Socage."
When it comes to property rights, you either have a stewardship to hold property in the Kingdom, or you, like Satan, have nothing.
God Bless,
Darren
They are only occupancy permits from Satan's Occupying Force.
or
Joint ownership with Christ. (company property)
In America, and in the countries that continued in the tradition of the lost tribes of Israel, joint ownership with Christ has always been called "Socage."
When it comes to property rights, you either have a stewardship to hold property in the Kingdom, or you, like Satan, have nothing.
God Bless,
Darren
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Jacob 4:10Robert Sinclair wrote:God has commanded and is not obeyed.
Your leaders will never be able to speak with Jesus Christ face to face, until they acknowledge this offence against God, and return to bring his bride out of the closet, and keep his celestial law which he has given them. So it is written and so it shall be done.
Good to do as God has commanded in his celestial law.♡
10 Wherefore, brethren, seek not to counsel the Lord, but to take counsel from his hand. For behold, ye yourselves know that he counseleth in wisdom, and in justice, and in great mercy, over all his works.
Demanding the church leaders to impart homes to the poor based on your harangue is the same as counseling the Lord. Not an advantageous move.
A "harangue" is more than a speech, louder than a discussion, and nastier than a lecture. It is a verbal attack that doesn't let up, delivered as a verb or received as a noun. Either way, it's pretty unpleasant.
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Robert Sinclair
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The words used for imparting to the saints is covenants and deeds, for stewardships of inheritances, is counsel from the LORD.
I like the concept of the law of God for "The LORD's release" every seven years for simple debts to be released, and "Jubilee" where even land lost to creditors or banks are to be returned every 50 years.
Now bankruptsy laws for release of debts we have in the United States, and they do work and give relief to many.
But property returned after 50 years, has yet to become law here in the U.S.
This is to yet be called, "One Nation under God, with Liberty and Justice, and Inheritances for all".
The inheritances for all, by covenants and deeds, that cannot be broken, (or taken back), the elders of Israel both of Judah and Joseph shall seek to establish by "Ordinances of Justice", they will set up and enact in these lands of promise, to fullfill the word of God.
You could say everyone gets an inheritance for a life estate, as once they have passed on, they no longer need it. And if they have no children, or if they have many children, ordinances of justice are to be set up, where these children receive their own individual inheritances, or covenants and deeds, for life estates as well, for again once passed on, whatever is surplus, will be given into the storehouse treasury of the LORD, if not needed anymore.
I like the concept of the law of God for "The LORD's release" every seven years for simple debts to be released, and "Jubilee" where even land lost to creditors or banks are to be returned every 50 years.
Now bankruptsy laws for release of debts we have in the United States, and they do work and give relief to many.
But property returned after 50 years, has yet to become law here in the U.S.
This is to yet be called, "One Nation under God, with Liberty and Justice, and Inheritances for all".
The inheritances for all, by covenants and deeds, that cannot be broken, (or taken back), the elders of Israel both of Judah and Joseph shall seek to establish by "Ordinances of Justice", they will set up and enact in these lands of promise, to fullfill the word of God.
You could say everyone gets an inheritance for a life estate, as once they have passed on, they no longer need it. And if they have no children, or if they have many children, ordinances of justice are to be set up, where these children receive their own individual inheritances, or covenants and deeds, for life estates as well, for again once passed on, whatever is surplus, will be given into the storehouse treasury of the LORD, if not needed anymore.
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Robert Sinclair
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And counsel from the LORD, if you will receive it, "is" to weep and howl, and sound the alarm, and spare not, till the old men, and husbandmen, and vinedresses give ear, and are ashamed, and atone, for the perversion of equity, and loftiness in the vineyard of the LORD, which has been eaten up, to where even the bark, has been stripped from off the branches of the trees, and the harvest of the field perished.
For the latter days, the LORD has counseled, of prophets that speak a vision and dream out of their own heart, and not out of his mouth, you are not to hearken unto them, for they make you vain.
And you can know perfectly where it comes from by listening to their testimony.
More specifically the LORD commands that you ask of these prophets, two specific questions to be answered by them---------
#1. What hath the LORD answered thee?
#2. What hath the LORD spoken?
(See Jeremiah chapter 23 and specifically verse 37)
By taking counsel from the LORD, he has said, the prophets that have dreams, let them tell of their dreams, but he that has stood in my counsel, will turn the people from their evil ways and the evil of their doings.
I believe some prophets have had dreams of their own hearts, saying "We cannot lead you astray, follow us."
For the words of the LORD are-----
"O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths."
Don't believe, these words are from the prophet Isaiah, whom Jesus Christ commands everyone search dilligently.
And as for those two questions, Joseph Smith would have been more than happy to answer you, as would Moses or Isaiah, or Jeremiah or any of those prophets who's writings have now become scripture, for the whole world to see.
Ask those two questions of Thomas Monson.
Ask any well learned Jew, what makes a prophet for them, how do they decide, who is, and who is not.
Seek for the truth, from the Spirit of truth, this will guide you well.♡
For the latter days, the LORD has counseled, of prophets that speak a vision and dream out of their own heart, and not out of his mouth, you are not to hearken unto them, for they make you vain.
And you can know perfectly where it comes from by listening to their testimony.
More specifically the LORD commands that you ask of these prophets, two specific questions to be answered by them---------
#1. What hath the LORD answered thee?
#2. What hath the LORD spoken?
(See Jeremiah chapter 23 and specifically verse 37)
By taking counsel from the LORD, he has said, the prophets that have dreams, let them tell of their dreams, but he that has stood in my counsel, will turn the people from their evil ways and the evil of their doings.
I believe some prophets have had dreams of their own hearts, saying "We cannot lead you astray, follow us."
For the words of the LORD are-----
"O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths."
Don't believe, these words are from the prophet Isaiah, whom Jesus Christ commands everyone search dilligently.
And as for those two questions, Joseph Smith would have been more than happy to answer you, as would Moses or Isaiah, or Jeremiah or any of those prophets who's writings have now become scripture, for the whole world to see.
Ask those two questions of Thomas Monson.
Ask any well learned Jew, what makes a prophet for them, how do they decide, who is, and who is not.
Seek for the truth, from the Spirit of truth, this will guide you well.♡
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jsbaugh
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This is flat out wrong as you obviously discount latter day revelation on this issue. Was the lord just kidding when he pulled consecration and instituted the law of tithes? You can quote the Book of Enoch until your blue in the face but the fact is latter revelation has been given on this topic that you continue to discount. Robert my advice to you is get your own house in order, pay your tithing, become temple worthy and follow the prophet. The day will come when you stand before God and he asks why you didn't do those things and you will have a clear recollection of your misguided views.Robert Sinclair wrote:The words used for imparting to the saints is covenants and deeds, for stewardships of inheritances, is counsel from the LORD.
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Robert Sinclair
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Try saying that at the judgement bar of Christ, for the revelation given in the Doctrine and Covenants, says to impart, yes, even after he said the redemption of Zion, would wait for a little season, he said to go and have experience imparting as the gospel requires, and for everyone to learn their duty, and have experience, keeping this celestial law.
And it is true, that the heads today, he has hid his face from, and they know this to be true, and it is for the perversion of equity, and loftiness, they have helped create in the vineyard of the LORD of Hosts.
Not one can testify that they have stood face to face in the flesh, and walked and talked with Jesus Christ, but because they are the heads of Ephraim, who was annointed and appointed, and honored and called and elected, to set up the standard, and ensign, and light of the fullness of "All things common among them", as Peter and his fellow 12, set up, and as the 12 in 4th Nephi set up, as two witnesses, as required by the law given of the LORD unto Moses, Ephraim is still his dear son, and after their shame and pain, as heads of Ephraim, they shall yet atone. I keep the law of consecration, and have no savings account as the Savior said to do, but live day to day, giving all my surplus away, to the needy around me, and even on this forum, who have called out for help. I have set up no idols around me to adore, above the poor, as shopping centers, mega million dollar temples, or half a billion dollar tracts of land, which thing is forbidden of God, as well as book sells, on Amazon.com or other book stores, peddling the words of Jesus Christ for money, which thing is also forbidden of God. And I will not contribute, to the robbery of God, but wait for the heads to atone for these things, at which time, my family will happily return, when I know my tithing and offerings are "all" going first and foremost to the poor and needy, then after the "residue" as God has commanded, going for temples and meetinghouses, massive tracts of land, ect, for the public benefit of the members.
I follow the Prophet Jesus Christ, and he says of the latter days, hearken not to these prophets, that have not his words from his own mouth, but speak of vision and dream out of their own hearts, for they will make you vain, and he does not lie, but only speaks the truth by the spirit of truth. And has given instructions on how to know perfectly in these latter days, how to know, and has given two questions to ask any man calling himself a prophet:
#1. What hath the LORD answered thee?
#2. What hath the LORD spoken?
These things you shall consider perfectly he says.
And Joseph Smith, Isaiah, and many other prophets, would be happy to answer these two questions.
Go ask Thomas Monson, see what he says.
Seek for the truth, by the spirit of truth, and know the day and hour, that is upon you.♡
And it is true, that the heads today, he has hid his face from, and they know this to be true, and it is for the perversion of equity, and loftiness, they have helped create in the vineyard of the LORD of Hosts.
Not one can testify that they have stood face to face in the flesh, and walked and talked with Jesus Christ, but because they are the heads of Ephraim, who was annointed and appointed, and honored and called and elected, to set up the standard, and ensign, and light of the fullness of "All things common among them", as Peter and his fellow 12, set up, and as the 12 in 4th Nephi set up, as two witnesses, as required by the law given of the LORD unto Moses, Ephraim is still his dear son, and after their shame and pain, as heads of Ephraim, they shall yet atone. I keep the law of consecration, and have no savings account as the Savior said to do, but live day to day, giving all my surplus away, to the needy around me, and even on this forum, who have called out for help. I have set up no idols around me to adore, above the poor, as shopping centers, mega million dollar temples, or half a billion dollar tracts of land, which thing is forbidden of God, as well as book sells, on Amazon.com or other book stores, peddling the words of Jesus Christ for money, which thing is also forbidden of God. And I will not contribute, to the robbery of God, but wait for the heads to atone for these things, at which time, my family will happily return, when I know my tithing and offerings are "all" going first and foremost to the poor and needy, then after the "residue" as God has commanded, going for temples and meetinghouses, massive tracts of land, ect, for the public benefit of the members.
I follow the Prophet Jesus Christ, and he says of the latter days, hearken not to these prophets, that have not his words from his own mouth, but speak of vision and dream out of their own hearts, for they will make you vain, and he does not lie, but only speaks the truth by the spirit of truth. And has given instructions on how to know perfectly in these latter days, how to know, and has given two questions to ask any man calling himself a prophet:
#1. What hath the LORD answered thee?
#2. What hath the LORD spoken?
These things you shall consider perfectly he says.
And Joseph Smith, Isaiah, and many other prophets, would be happy to answer these two questions.
Go ask Thomas Monson, see what he says.
Seek for the truth, by the spirit of truth, and know the day and hour, that is upon you.♡
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jsbaugh
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You are what they call an apostate and you can answer for that when the time comes. I can quote latter day scripture all day contradicting your views but in the end you are not going to listen. Good luck.
