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:-B so, perhaps orgasm, or even multiple ones, -oriented approach might be the desirable one?! but also....

this book might be worth to read...."....seek learning, even by study and also by faith."

http://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UTF ... 0happiness" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Sex Perfection and Marital Happiness, published in 1949 by psychiatrist Rudolf von Urban MD, is a collection of case studies and other materials about "a new conception of the mechanism of sexual intercourse." "

Karezza
http://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UTF-8&p=Karezza" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

search.php?keywords=+orgasm&terms=all&a ... mit=Search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

shadow wrote:

iWriteStuff wrote:

Jezebel wrote:

Ezra wrote:No response needed.

That's good. I'd hate to interrupt.

Ok that was hilarious, guys. Thanks for the laugh :p I really need that.

Personally, I'm still stumped. What husband wouldn't want to be intimate with his wife?

It's an odd thing, I think it's psychological issues. My wife has a good friend, a cute friend, who's husband will not touch her. They go on vacations together, ski, bike and go to dinner and movies, but no touching. When they were first married they were "active". After the first baby it was seldom. After the second baby, about 10 years ago, he moved into the basement and hasn't touched her since. I think he has issues with seeing his babies use those parts of his wife that had only been for him, but that's just my theory. I used to watch Frasier so I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about :ymcowboy:

I'd tell someone like that, in the words of one of the 90s greatest minds, Vanilla Ice, "drop that zero and get with the hero"

somehow that worked once.
:))

iWriteStuff wrote:With my now aging parents who could barely talk to me about sex 20 years ago, my guess would be there's probably a lot of fellas on medication who STILL aren't comfortable talking about sex, least of all now that it's difficult/impossible for them.

An old man grabs his coat and starts heading quickly for the door.

"Where are you going in such a hurry?" asks his wife.

"I just found out that our insurance now covers Viagra!" he replied. The wife grabs her coat as well.

"Why are you going?" queries her husband.

She replied "If you're going to take that rusty old thing and start using it again, I'm getting a tetanus shot!"

So is the consensus that any guy who doesn't want to have sex with his wife is hiding his homosexual tendencies?

No.

Elizabeth wrote:No.

Good.

iWriteStuff wrote:

Elizabeth wrote:No.

Good.

Like said already, he could be into guys but most likely he may be low on testosterone, depressed, or suffering from a Madonna/whore complex after the birth of a child.

True story-
I was talking to my late 70's yr old neighbor a few weeks ago. He told me he and his wife have sex almost every day. I was a bit surprised at the whole conversation but said Good for you. He said yeah, we almost have it Monday, almost on Tuesday, almost on Wednesday and so on.

shadow wrote:True story-
I was talking to my late 70's yr old neighbor a few weeks ago. He told me he and his wife have sex almost every day. I was a bit surprised at the whole conversation but said Good for you. He said yeah, we almost have it Monday, almost on Tuesday, almost on Wednesday and so on.

Like I said, this issue will be done away with once we get really good interactive virtual reality as well as robots that look, act and feel like humans.

Fiannan wrote:

shadow wrote:True story-
I was talking to my late 70's yr old neighbor a few weeks ago. He told me he and his wife have sex almost every day. I was a bit surprised at the whole conversation but said Good for you. He said yeah, we almost have it Monday, almost on Tuesday, almost on Wednesday and so on.

Like I said, this issue will be done away with once we get really good interactive virtual reality as well as robots that look, act and feel like humans.

That is just weird. I don't know why anyone would trust their junk to a robot. I don't doubt people will welcome it though.

Melissa wrote:

Fiannan wrote:

shadow wrote:True story-
I was talking to my late 70's yr old neighbor a few weeks ago. He told me he and his wife have sex almost every day. I was a bit surprised at the whole conversation but said Good for you. He said yeah, we almost have it Monday, almost on Tuesday, almost on Wednesday and so on.

Like I said, this issue will be done away with once we get really good interactive virtual reality as well as robots that look, act and feel like humans.

That is just weird. I don't know why anyone would trust their junk to a robot. I don't doubt people will welcome it though.

Well it's either nothing or a robot... Some people will take the robot.

Yet unless they perfect artificial wombs then real men and real women will have to pair off and make real babies.

Fiannan wrote:Yet unless they perfect artificial wombs then real men and real women will have to pair off and make real babies.

Or in industry of surrogate mothers implanted with the pre made egg and sperm, genetically altered for hair colour and what not.
But even still you don't need to pair off to have a child, you both show up lol
Alas I do not think the sex robot industry is catering to the people who have it in their minds to have babies.
These are for the people who can't get a wife or girlfriend,
Even if, say myself, wanted a family, it ain't happening. Just because women exist doesn't mean they'll be with me, and with all the insanity around marriage and stuff, I see absolutely nothing in much of relationships except misery and unhappiness.
Life has dealt some a low hand, and sometimes they don't get a better one.
So technology will come and offer them one.

And I for one welcome it.

Fiannan wrote:

shadow wrote:True story-
I was talking to my late 70's yr old neighbor a few weeks ago. He told me he and his wife have sex almost every day. I was a bit surprised at the whole conversation but said Good for you. He said yeah, we almost have it Monday, almost on Tuesday, almost on Wednesday and so on.

Like I said, this issue will be done away with once we get really good interactive virtual reality as well as robots that look, act and feel like humans.

It was just a joke. With his bad back, knees, dizziness, arthritis and over weight issues, I don't think sex is on his list of things he's interested in. I think he's more interested in making it through final jeapardy before he falls asleep than getting any action :ymparty:

Fiannan wrote:

shadow wrote:True story-
I was talking to my late 70's yr old neighbor a few weeks ago. He told me he and his wife have sex almost every day. I was a bit surprised at the whole conversation but said Good for you. He said yeah, we almost have it Monday, almost on Tuesday, almost on Wednesday and so on.

Like I said, this issue will be done away with once we get really good interactive virtual reality as well as robots that look, act and feel like humans.

And why would you think this? Do you really think the church would be fine with people using robots when the church is not okay with self pleasure?
If they ever get to the point where these robots are functional and not too expensive, they won't be approved by the church.

You seem to not understand how the church views sexual relations. Sexual relations are to cement the bonds of a husband and wife, not for ignoring one's spouse and using artificial means, on their own, for getting pleasure.

AI2.0 wrote:

Fiannan wrote:

shadow wrote:True story-
I was talking to my late 70's yr old neighbor a few weeks ago. He told me he and his wife have sex almost every day. I was a bit surprised at the whole conversation but said Good for you. He said yeah, we almost have it Monday, almost on Tuesday, almost on Wednesday and so on.

Like I said, this issue will be done away with once we get really good interactive virtual reality as well as robots that look, act and feel like humans.

And why would you think this? Do you really think the church would be fine with people using robots when the church is not okay with self pleasure?
If they ever get to the point where these robots are functional and not too expensive, they won't be approved by the church.

You seem to not understand how the church views sexual relations. Sexual relations are to cement the bonds of a husband and wife, not for ignoring one's spouse and using artificial means, on their own, for getting pleasure.

They seem okay with one spouse ignoring the needs of the other.

Well, what if the husband and wife wanna bring an android into the mix with them? It's just an android, no soul, not human, so basically it'd just be a tool helping facilitate whatever kinky hijinks the husband and wife are up to, which could arguably not be offensive to the Spirit, depending on what it specifically is. Arguably.

Fiannan wrote:

AI2.0 wrote:

Fiannan wrote:

shadow wrote:True story-
I was talking to my late 70's yr old neighbor a few weeks ago. He told me he and his wife have sex almost every day. I was a bit surprised at the whole conversation but said Good for you. He said yeah, we almost have it Monday, almost on Tuesday, almost on Wednesday and so on.

Like I said, this issue will be done away with once we get really good interactive virtual reality as well as robots that look, act and feel like humans.

And why would you think this? Do you really think the church would be fine with people using robots when the church is not okay with self pleasure?
If they ever get to the point where these robots are functional and not too expensive, they won't be approved by the church.

You seem to not understand how the church views sexual relations. Sexual relations are to cement the bonds of a husband and wife, not for ignoring one's spouse and using artificial means, on their own, for getting pleasure.

They seem okay with one spouse ignoring the needs of the other.

On many many issues not just sex.

And I think we have already discussed the difference between needs and wants. Yes, some people need affection and sexual attention to feel loved and secure in relationship but orgasm seeking is not what the need is here.

Magus wrote:Well, what if the husband and wife wanna bring an android into the mix with them? It's just an android, no soul, not human, so basically it'd just be a tool helping facilitate whatever kinky hijinks the husband and wife are up to, which could arguably not be offensive to the Spirit, depending on what it specifically is. Arguably.

Seems incredibly worldly to me. It will feed the wrong things and produce fruit that is not good. Can see this a mile away.

And that is not addressing the fun it could be. Although it would be a bad idea.

On many many issues not just sex.

And I think we have already discussed the difference between needs and wants. Yes, some people need affection and sexual attention to feel loved and secure in relationship but orgasm seeking is not what the need is here.

And forget about the gender thing, about men wanting sex and women wanting love. Who is buying all those "toys" in Utah? It certainly is not heterosexual men. Many women see sex in the same category as food -- a need rather than a want, and that means all the way, not just a cuddle. And yes, I know guys who complain that after sex their wives will jump out of bed and go jogging or watch TV...when they would rather snuggle and talk.

Magus wrote:Well, what if the husband and wife wanna bring an android into the mix with them? It's just an android, no soul, not human, so basically it'd just be a tool helping facilitate whatever kinky hijinks the husband and wife are up to, which could arguably not be offensive to the Spirit, depending on what it specifically is. Arguably.

Magus, are you LDS? Do you think the church would approve of couples watching pornography together? I think it would fall into that category.

You know, this is actually a serious topic, but the way it has been derailed by jokes and prurient fantasies is pretty sad. I feel sorry for spouses who look for support or actual suggestions to deal with their own struggles on some of these threads. It seems that we've got some 12-13 year old boys posting.

Sirocco wrote:Life has dealt some a low hand, and sometimes they don't get a better one.
So technology will come and offer them one.

And I for one welcome it.

Hi Sirocco!

For what it is worth to you Sirocco, in the end we must learn to place our trust in God the Father and in His Son Jesus Christ. All mortals and all things made by mortals will ultimately fail us.

-Finrock

AI2.0 wrote:

Magus wrote:Well, what if the husband and wife wanna bring an android into the mix with them? It's just an android, no soul, not human, so basically it'd just be a tool helping facilitate whatever kinky hijinks the husband and wife are up to, which could arguably not be offensive to the Spirit, depending on what it specifically is. Arguably.

Magus, are you LDS? Do you think the church would approve of couples watching pornography together? I think it would fall into that category.

No soul, well...who knows what the future might enable?

Hey, the new technologies will develop faster than human society can handle the change. Not since the days of Noah have we had such infinite possibilities with a new dawn of humanity approaching.

As this is an LDS Forum it is inappropriate and against Forum rules to be focusing on worldly carnal matters and beliefs as if they are acceptable to an LDS member, which they are not.
We live in this world but are not of it. Our moral standards, thoughts, and actions are of a higher Spiritual plane,and it is this which should be reflected in the posts and discussions in this LDS Forum.