Yes. I have witnessed it my self on the ward and stake level and it irritates me. I spoke out about it often to the Bishops and SP's I have served with. I have also witnessed the Lord directing us to a person we were not originally thinking of.Stahura wrote:Do you think that there are some truly humble men that are true witnesses of Christ, that aren't even considered for positions like this because of their financial situation? And since they are never considered, the General Authorities never end up presenting those names before the Lord to seek revelation concerning them?Serragon wrote:Some here have argued that the Lord requires a wealthy self-motivated professional to be an apostle. They use the current make-up of the quorum as proof positive. They seem to believe the Lord is almost literally issuing the call to the individual.
Some here have argued that the quorum is stagnating and needs to be more diverse, both economically and culturally. By extension this implies they believe the Lord is not behind the calls of the new members.
I think both are incorrect views.
I have had the experience to serve in multiple Stake Presidencies and Bishoprics as a secretary and/or clerk. I have also had the blessing of being and EQ president. I have witnessed hundreds of callings deliberated and issued.
There are a few rare times where the Spirit speaks so strongly that it is apparent to everyone who should be called. These are powerful experiences. The vast majority of the time however it is simply a confirmation that the person is not unacceptable to the Lord.
My experiences tell me that the Lord is generally content with whomever is called. Occasionally he intervenes for a specific purpose, but not often. This in no way diminishes the mantle or the appointment of that individual.
In the case of the apostles, I would say that there were probably hundreds of thousands of people who the Lord would have accepted if presented to Him. The 3 that were presented were accepted of Him. The fact that they are not economically, culturally, or racially diverse is of no moment. As long as these men humble themselves before Him, they will be able to fulfill their mission with his assistance. What they lack, he will provide.
But I don't think it diminishes the calling or authority of those who were presented and accepted.