LDS Freedom Forum

Fiannan wrote:Russia (USSR) had an agenda in 1945 but they almost single-handedly defeated the Nazies. So yes, they are heroes today by destroying both America's terrorist armies in Syria and ISIS.

And no, I do not delight in the bloodshed of the wicked, but I instead look to save the blood of innocent Syrians and Kurds and the selling of 8 year old girls to be gang-raped by degenerates. So if Russia and China can erase these monsters then more power to them. Besides, in the next life they can convert -- much better security there.

OCDMOM wrote:Joel Rosenberg is wondering if this is the Gog and Magog War?" The Hebrew prophet Ezekiel wrote 2,500 years ago that in the “last days” of history, Russia and Iran will form a military alliance to attack Israel from the north. Bible scholars refer to this eschatological conflict, described in Ezekiel 38-39, as the “War of Gog & Magog.” Are these sudden and dramatic moves by Moscow and Tehran are simply coincidental, or have prophetic implications?" https://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/ ... he-latest/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Magus wrote:I thought the whole Gog and Magog thing was supposed to happen after the Millenium, just before the great and final judgment. Armageddon before the Millenium, Gog & Magog after.

Chapters 19:11-21:8 of the Book of Revelation, dating from the end of the 1st century CE,[26] tells how Satan is to be imprisoned for a thousand years, and how, on his release, he will rally "the nations in the four corners of the Earth, Gog and Magog," to a final battle with Christ and his saints

Magus wrote:whaaaa, I was sure that Gog & Magog was supposed to be after the Millenium. The last great gathering of Satan's forces before final judgment.

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Chapters 19:11-21:8 of the Book of Revelation, dating from the end of the 1st century CE,[26] tells how Satan is to be imprisoned for a thousand years, and how, on his release, he will rally "the nations in the four corners of the Earth, Gog and Magog," to a final battle with Christ and his saints

“At the very moment of the Second Coming of our Lord, ‘all nations’ shall be gathered ‘against Jerusalem to battle’ (Zech. 11; 12; 13; 14), and the battle of Armageddon (obviously covering the entire area from Jerusalem to Megiddo, and perhaps more) will be in progress. As John expressed it, ‘the kings of the earth and of the whole world’ will be gathered ‘to the battle of that great day of God Almighty, … into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.’ Then Christ will ‘come as a thief,’ meaning unexpectedly, and the dramatic upheavals promised to accompany his return will take place. (Rev. 16:14–21.) It is incident to this battle of Armageddon that the Supper of the Great God shall take place (Rev. 19:11–18), and it is the same battle described by Ezekiel as the war with Gog and Magog. (Ezek. 38; 39; Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p. 45.)” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 74.)

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zionminded wrote:This is a pre-cursor war with Gog and Magog.. but its not THE war. Give it a few years to percolate.

Indeed, now that Russia is in Syria, I doubt they'll ever leave.

Fiannan wrote:Again, no scriptural proof whatsoever about Russia being Gog or Magog. None, zero, not there.

Fiannan wrote:

Indeed, now that Russia is in Syria, I doubt they'll ever leave.

Again, no scriptural proof whatsoever about Russia being Gog or Magog. None, zero, not there.

Now let us look at the real problem:

Sunain wrote:

Magus wrote:whaaaa, I was sure that Gog & Magog was supposed to be after the Millenium. The last great gathering of Satan's forces before final judgment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_M ... Revelation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chapters 19:11-21:8 of the Book of Revelation, dating from the end of the 1st century CE,[26] tells how Satan is to be imprisoned for a thousand years, and how, on his release, he will rally "the nations in the four corners of the Earth, Gog and Magog," to a final battle with Christ and his saints

The battle of Armageddon is the same battle described by Ezekiel as the war with Gog and Magog. It is the catalyst for Christ's Second Coming to the Jews in Israel. I recommend you read through: The Battle of Armageddon: A Prophetic View - Old Testament Student Manual Kings-Malachi, (1982), 291–95 rather than Wikipedia.

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“At the very moment of the Second Coming of our Lord, ‘all nations’ shall be gathered ‘against Jerusalem to battle’ (Zech. 11; 12; 13; 14), and the battle of Armageddon (obviously covering the entire area from Jerusalem to Megiddo, and perhaps more) will be in progress. As John expressed it, ‘the kings of the earth and of the whole world’ will be gathered ‘to the battle of that great day of God Almighty, … into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.’ Then Christ will ‘come as a thief,’ meaning unexpectedly, and the dramatic upheavals promised to accompany his return will take place. (Rev. 16:14–21.) It is incident to this battle of Armageddon that the Supper of the Great God shall take place (Rev. 19:11–18), and it is the same battle described by Ezekiel as the war with Gog and Magog. (Ezek. 38; 39; Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p. 45.)” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 74.)

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zionminded wrote:This is a pre-cursor war with Gog and Magog.. but its not THE war. Give it a few years to percolate.

Indeed, now that Russia is in Syria, I doubt they'll ever leave.

Magus wrote:What is the event at the end of the Millenium supposed to be then? The book of Revelation refers to Gog and Magog being gathered after the end of the 1,000 years.

One Final Struggle after the Millennium
What will be the final destiny of the earth?

At the end of the 1,000 years, Satan will be set free for a short time. Some people will turn away from Heavenly Father. Satan will gather his armies, and Michael (Adam) will gather the hosts of heaven. In this great struggle, Satan and his followers will be cast out forever. The earth will be changed into a celestial kingdom. (See D&C 29:22–29; 88:17–20, 110–15.)
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Fiannan wrote:Really like the series "The Walking Dead?" Seems like a lot of American politicians do too, and want to push a war with Russia and China so we can experience it in real life:

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Robin Hood wrote:I know the Russians feel they are surrounded, and the above map illustrates it very well.

Jason wrote:

Robin Hood wrote:I know the Russians feel they are surrounded, and the above map illustrates it very well.

LOL...that's the propaganda the Russian brass is feeding the Russian people! And the US folks get a slightly different version of propaganda.

Old map too...

Russia wouldn't exist without the help and support of the US...although more specifically a few banking families that also control the US...UK for that matter as well. Good example demonstrating such collaboration at the end of WWII was Operation Keelhaul of which the Brits also participated and covered themselves in blood as well.

War is just another tool in the arsenal to control the people and get them to do things they wouldn't otherwise do.

People are just puppets...dangerous puppets if they wise up...or run out of circuses and bread. End result is the same...threat to be eliminated. Hence the efforts on creating the next plague of all plagues....

Fiannan wrote:Satan is the god of this planet, isn't he?