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Finrock wrote:

rewcox wrote:Can't even agree on the truth.

I think all can agree to the truth that as Christ has loved us, so must we love one another.

-Finrock

Love can be tough sometimes.

Stacy Oliver wrote:
No, it's not him. Stahura's spelling and grammar are quite good.

Yes, my "spelling and grammar" is much more towards that of Joseph Smith's for sure - like a child - thank you for picking that out - such a compliment.

The spirit speaks right through grammatical errors, that I have a witness of - the spirit speaks soul to soul heart to heart, without boundaries, esp. grammatically, politically correct grammatical postulating.

I love that I need not know what to say in the moment but can be true to the voice in my heart which Wirthlin spoke of as the unspeakable gift, and it is very clear to me when the spirit is speaking to others through me, just as you pointed out, for the spirit uses one's pure in heart style and manners and vocabulary such that the recipient would understand as it is received by the spirit and taught by the spirit - intellectuals will never understand until they humble themselves - even grammatical intellectuals at that.

@beeprepared @rewcox
I apologize for using some quotes out of context to see certain reactions.

shadow wrote:

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

shadow wrote:

Stahura wrote:Look at those who are obsessed with their leaders and how they treat others who have questions and who are passionate about the Gospel. Their fruits are plainly manifest.

Do they treat a brother as Christ would?
Or do they turn them away and call them faithless like Elder Ballard told them not to?

Is that you, Jared?

I love when I am lurking and see that shadow continues to pull out amazing ironies like this one. The fact that I give you my time shows how I treat my brother who hates me. God is my witness and knows your heart as he does mine.

The real question we all should ask is, who is shadow, where might one read about his sincere insights, family, soul-stretching experiences, etc. so we can relate more to this mysterious shadow that lurks on the LDSFF? Or is mr. shadow anonymous (besides PM first name confessions) - which is opposite Christ's blog if you will - he was never anonymous with exception to the road to Emmaus, and that was only short lived...

So it is you or it isnt? No deceit please.

Deceit? You mean the Mr. Shadow who lurks as a shadow and is unwilling to give his name, something about his family, but freely gives his unwanted stupid advice, asinine assumptions, etc?

You know not my heart in the least but are a mocker, and we know what what Christ defines mockers as, fools.

Bee Prepared wrote:

shadow wrote: So it is you or it isnt? No deceit please.

I think you're on to something Shadow.

Indeed - that he and you are like fellow compadres in the mission to love your brother?

Quick question for us all, being that I'm not in the know with popular culture, what is your avatar shadow?

rewcox wrote:

Finrock wrote:

rewcox wrote:Can't even agree on the truth.

I think all can agree to the truth that as Christ has loved us, so must we love one another.

-Finrock

Love can be tough sometimes.

It seems hate is all to easy sometimes as well isn't it mr. rewcox?

The ward heretic wrote:What I found interesting is that when that Emmanuel character, God bless him, said he was Christ, none of the typical forum blowhards came in with the full wrath of petty judgment, green jello, and dismissal as they have done on countless threads about "the brethren."

I guess I should interpret this either as

A) I'm not a blowhard because I had no problem calling out Emmanuel.

or

B) Maybe I'm not doing a good enough job coming to the defense of the Brethren? :-ss

or maybe it's

C) I call out imposter Christs and I defend the Brethren because, ultimately, I'm looking for truth and balance.

I dunno, maybe we take ourselves too seriously on here.

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

rewcox wrote:

Finrock wrote:

rewcox wrote:Can't even agree on the truth.

I think all can agree to the truth that as Christ has loved us, so must we love one another.

-Finrock

Love can be tough sometimes.

It seems hate is all to easy sometimes as well isn't it mr. rewcox?

I was talking about tough love. I don't hate anyone, I also don't like some things you do and say. Remember, I told you where you would go.

Come back.

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:Quick question for us all, being that I'm not in the know with popular culture, what is your avatar shadow?

Mad Murdock from the A-Team (glad I google image searched 'cause at first I thought it was the first colonel from M.A.S.H.).

SmallFarm wrote:

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:Quick question for us all, being that I'm not in the know with popular culture, what is your avatar shadow?

Mad Murdock from the A-Team (glad I google image searched 'cause at first I thought it was the first colonel from M.A.S.H.).

Thank you. That helps me much with Mr. Shadow.

rewcox wrote: I was talking about tough love. I don't hate anyone, I also don't like some things you do and say. Remember, I told you where you would go.

Come back.

OK.... bishop? So you are patting your pride for having prophesied so wittingly that I would go where? out of the "church"? So rather than reach out in love, you followed me around nagging about how I would end up somewhere you wanted me to go so you could be right? Pretty telling rewcox, pretty telling - may God grant you grace as your definition of love, in actuality of practicing it towards me is not the kind of love I know of, nor do I feel the kind of love the voice of our Savior beckons us to live in.

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

rewcox wrote: I was talking about tough love. I don't hate anyone, I also don't like some things you do and say. Remember, I told you where you would go.

Come back.

OK.... bishop? So you are patting your pride for having prophesied so wittingly that I would go where? out of the "church"? So rather than reach out in love, you followed me around nagging about how I would end up somewhere you wanted me to go so you could be right? Pretty telling rewcox, pretty telling - may God grant you grace as your definition of love, in actuality of practicing it towards me is not the kind of love I know of, nor do I feel the kind of love the voice of our Savior beckons us to live in.

I'm hoping some day you will learn and turn back. You, and others reach a point where you don't hear or listen.

rewcox wrote:

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

rewcox wrote: I was talking about tough love. I don't hate anyone, I also don't like some things you do and say. Remember, I told you where you would go.

Come back.

OK.... bishop? So you are patting your pride for having prophesied so wittingly that I would go where? out of the "church"? So rather than reach out in love, you followed me around nagging about how I would end up somewhere you wanted me to go so you could be right? Pretty telling rewcox, pretty telling - may God grant you grace as your definition of love, in actuality of practicing it towards me is not the kind of love I know of, nor do I feel the kind of love the voice of our Savior beckons us to live in.

I'm hoping some day you will learn and turn back. You, and others reach a point where you don't hear or listen.

Speaking of not heeding council...

Thanks for the reply. I truly want to respond, however I have given you the courtesy of you knowing my name (first and last), all about myself and family (blogs, facebook, etc.), how the Lord blessed us financially hearing our prayers drawing us nearer to trusting him fully, as well as my heart’s feelings throughout this LDSFF.

As soon as you follow the same counsel all LDS are to follow in being non-anonymous in online forums where the gospel is shared, I’ll be happy to respond, until then, you are just an anonymous person who for the most part has shown me how much you don’t care about me, my wife and children, and any sincerity despite your disagreeing with me - hence the gospel you preach, in my view, is undesirable to me and my family.

My family (you can see my face, those of my treasured kids, my wife):
http://jaredandkathleensmith.blogspot.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.facebook.com/jaredkathleensmith" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My thoughts on some gospel related topics:
http://voiceofanearthquake.blogspot.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

How the Lord heard our plights and provided for us, lightening our burdens so we could be witnesses for him thereafter (see Mosiah 24):
Our Story:
http://prosperazon.org/t/our-story-how- ... pportunity" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A Principle Learned from the Lord:
http://prosperazon.org/t/the-grace-flow ... as-we-have" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some counsel by an LDS Leader about not being anonymous:
https://www.lds.org/new-era/2013/03/don ... s?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Avoid Wearing a Mask and Acting Out of Character
I am not suggesting that any of you would be involved in the kind of terrible events I have just described. I do believe, in our day, when being anonymous is easier than ever, that there are important principles involved in not wearing a mask and being “true to the faith … for which martyrs have perished.

We have great confidence in you. The leadership of the Church honestly believes that... you will act well your part as you avoid wearing a mask.

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

Bee Prepared wrote:

shadow wrote: So it is you or it isnt? No deceit please.

I think you're on to something Shadow.

Indeed - that he and you are like fellow compadres in the mission to love your brother?

Sometimes it's a lot easier to love others using the ignore function. At least until we have become more Christlike and can read abusive words without becoming angry, irritated, or defensive ourselves.

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

rewcox wrote: I was talking about tough love. I don't hate anyone, I also don't like some things you do and say. Remember, I told you where you would go.

Come back.

OK.... bishop? So you are patting your pride for having prophesied so wittingly that I would go where? out of the "church"? So rather than reach out in love, you followed me around nagging about how I would end up somewhere you wanted me to go so you could be right? Pretty telling rewcox, pretty telling - may God grant you grace as your definition of love, in actuality of practicing it towards me is not the kind of love I know of, nor do I feel the kind of love the voice of our Savior beckons us to live in.

In a previous post rewcox said SHE was 29! viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40089#p647367" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bishop huh?

BTH&T wrote:

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

rewcox wrote: I was talking about tough love. I don't hate anyone, I also don't like some things you do and say. Remember, I told you where you would go.

Come back.

OK.... bishop? So you are patting your pride for having prophesied so wittingly that I would go where? out of the "church"? So rather than reach out in love, you followed me around nagging about how I would end up somewhere you wanted me to go so you could be right? Pretty telling rewcox, pretty telling - may God grant you grace as your definition of love, in actuality of practicing it towards me is not the kind of love I know of, nor do I feel the kind of love the voice of our Savior beckons us to live in.

In a previous post rewcox said SHE was 29! viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40089#p647367" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bishop huh?

So he is seemingly a liar then, not to be trusted... as "he" has given me his name in a PM and being from Texas... speaking of deceptions? /:)

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

BTH&T wrote:

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

rewcox wrote: I was talking about tough love. I don't hate anyone, I also don't like some things you do and say. Remember, I told you where you would go.

Come back.

OK.... bishop? So you are patting your pride for having prophesied so wittingly that I would go where? out of the "church"? So rather than reach out in love, you followed me around nagging about how I would end up somewhere you wanted me to go so you could be right? Pretty telling rewcox, pretty telling - may God grant you grace as your definition of love, in actuality of practicing it towards me is not the kind of love I know of, nor do I feel the kind of love the voice of our Savior beckons us to live in.

In a previous post rewcox said SHE was 29! viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40089#p647367" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bishop huh?

So he is seemingly a liar then, not to be trusted... as "he" has given me his name in a PM and being from Texas... speaking of deceptions? /:)

or just playing a joke :))

BTH&T wrote: or just playing a joke :))

Yeah, like Christ would have "joked around" when belittling, labeling, and heaping judgements at other fellow saints, rejoicing in his self-fulfilled prophecy of a sheep being lost from the fold (in his view), telling the world how he nailed it on the head, as if the spirit himself gave him such heavenly inspired revelation...? I get it.

Here's a thought:

Why don't we all give our full name, address, DOB, SSN, and last four of our favorite credit card number? I'm sure disclosing private information to a public forum holds no risks at all.

Who wants to go first?

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

BTH&T wrote:

BrotherOfMahonri wrote:

rewcox wrote: I was talking about tough love. I don't hate anyone, I also don't like some things you do and say. Remember, I told you where you would go.

Come back.

OK.... bishop? So you are patting your pride for having prophesied so wittingly that I would go where? out of the "church"? So rather than reach out in love, you followed me around nagging about how I would end up somewhere you wanted me to go so you could be right? Pretty telling rewcox, pretty telling - may God grant you grace as your definition of love, in actuality of practicing it towards me is not the kind of love I know of, nor do I feel the kind of love the voice of our Savior beckons us to live in.

In a previous post rewcox said SHE was 29! viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40089#p647367" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bishop huh?

So he is seemingly a liar then, not to be trusted... as "he" has given me his name in a PM and being from Texas... speaking of deceptions? /:)

Whoa BoM! rewcox asked you to come back, where is the guile in that? Couldn't we all do better at reaching out in love, you and me?

Bee Prepared wrote: Whoa BoM! rewcox asked you to come back, where is the guile in that?

Speak for yourself! I want a new stereo (see previous post re: personal info) ;)

iWriteStuff wrote:Here's a thought:

Why don't we all give our full name, address, DOB, SSN, and last four of our favorite credit card number? I'm sure disclosing private information to a public forum holds no risks at all.

Who wants to go first?

I don't have a SSN, I'm here illegally. ;)

OH MY GOSH! you say something like this;

"I would bet my left [insert body part of your choosing] " and then ask me if there's any call for that.

There are lefts and rights of many body parts! I guess I see how your mind works. :))

But it's not so much that. It's telling someone they don't have one or two of a certain part of their anatomy that isn't called for. I guess you missed that.

But don't you never mind.

iWriteStuff wrote:Here's a thought:

Why don't we all give our full name, address, DOB, SSN, and last four of our favorite credit card number? I'm sure disclosing private information to a public forum holds no risks at all.

Who wants to go first?

Have your credit card ready - 1-800-sendyourmoneytorewcox.

Thanks!