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Emmanuel wrote:I am in direct contact with the Father, what I speak is coming soon people mocking are giving direct power to the adversary to act upon them in coming years, I have warned people to be humble and not mock for a good reason, I have greater understanding of eternal laws. When greater things are revealed accountability is risen and so it is that higher revelations are a double edged sword. The wise shall never make a judgement never mock another soul in life, they will understanding in spirit they will be held to account. Saying this those disrupting the flow of this thread I ask that you do not this thread is important and many reading it because of having such revelation before hand shall be better prepared for the times coming.

Why would our Father tell you things that directly contradict the scriptures he has given us before...?
Especially since your whole pitch sounds strikingly evangelical.

I would tell you to read the revelation of John very closely.

You will see that the world John describes is the one he is familiar with (europe, north africa, middle east) not the entire globe.

Second you will realize that the word antichrist does not appear there, the words false prophet do.

Third you will see that the false prophet is intimately connected with the whore of Babylon.
If you read other parts of the bible you will see that early christians called Rome Babylon, and that a women always represents a religious organization. Such as the virgin with a crown of stars which represents the true church, or the whore who represents an apostate christians church who worship idols.

In short the Pope is the false prophet or as you say the antichrist. Also the persecution all ready happened during the medieval ages and there abouts. Some estimates put the number of dead as high as 150,000,000; all because they would not go along with Catholic Rome.


I mean when are you people going to wake up and see that prophecy is and has never been fulfilled as quickly or as noticeably as we like to think.

Seriously if the fulfillment of prophecy were so clear as you and others make it sound then how in the deepest depths of hell would anyone not believe in the bible...?

Emmanuel wrote:

Sirocco wrote:

setyourselffree wrote:

idahommie wrote:Clay,
Commonwealth is talking about BS, Emmanuel and other user names he has gone by. The guy/girl claims to be Christ. Why people actually interact with the poster is amazing. He also post false doctrine, but there are several people here that believe he IS Christ, and that is scary.

I just checked Emmanual's I.P address and it is not from this world.

How does that work?

He was perhaps joking, saying I am a alien indirectly. I feel people are losing the point of this thread again focusing on me.

John 10:27
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

3 Ne. 18:31
31 But if he repent not he shall not be numbered among my people, that he may not destroy my people, for behold I know my sheep, and they are numbered.

Alma 5:38
38 Behold, I say unto you, that the good shepherd doth call you; yea, and in his own name he doth call you, which is the name of Christ; and if ye will not hearken unto the voice of the good shepherd, to the name by which ye are called, behold, ye are not the sheep of the good shepherd.

Doctrine and Covenants 19:23
23 Learn of me, and listen to my words; walk in the meekness of my Spirit, and you shall have peace in me.

Matthew 11:29
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Jer. 4:22
22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Mosiah 26:25 (24–27)
24 For behold, in my name are they called; and if they know me they shall come forth, and shall have a place eternally at my right hand.
25 And it shall come to pass that when the second trump shall sound then shall they that never knew me come forth and shall stand before me.
26 And then shall they know that I am the Lord their God, that I am their Redeemer; but they would not be redeemed.
27 And then I will confess unto them that I never knew them; and they shall depart into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Mosiah 5:13
13 For how knoweth a man the master whom he has not served, and who is a stranger unto him, and is far from the thoughts and intents of his heart?

Emmanuel says he doesn't like people asking who he really is, right? This is in direct conflict with scripture that clearly states that we must know the master with whom is our Lord and Savior. Red Flag One.

Does he fail in knowing all our names as a true master would know all in his employ? Red Flag Two

Does he know the number of people that actually heed him? The Lord's sheep are numbered. Red Flag Three.

Since we know that the Lord will call us by name and he himself will be called in his name, then why does he use a pseudonym, three different times no less? Red Flag Four.

Why does he bypass or even ignore questions related to his claimed identity? Why does he skirt around pertinent questions in our attempt to heed scripture and learn of him? Red Flag Five.

Emmanuel wrote:I am in direct contact with the Father, what I speak is coming soon people mocking are giving direct power to the adversary to act upon them in coming years, I have warned people to be humble and not mock for a good reason, I have greater understanding of eternal laws. When greater things are revealed accountability is risen and so it is that higher revelations are a double edged sword. The wise shall never make a judgement never mock another soul in life, they will understanding in spirit they will be held to account. Saying this those disrupting the flow of this thread I ask that you do not this thread is important and many reading it because of having such revelation before hand shall be better prepared for the times coming.

The only being that is between us and the Father is Jehovah.... not you.

Quite convenient of you to head off any criticism by claiming anyone that criticizes you will be attacked by both the devil and God. Ridiculous.

This thread is the perfect example of the "philosophies of men mingled with scripture". There's nothing in this thread that is actually true. It plays on the imagination and fears which the false churches have been doing for two millennia.

The false churches teach that there is a single anti-christ coming to rule the world. This is a lie.

Anyone that is active in the Church, following the true prophet, and following the commandments has nothing to fear and the prophesies of us being protected have been long standing.

He was perhaps joking, saying I am a alien indirectly. I feel people are losing the point of this thread again focusing on me.[/quote]
John 10:27
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

3 Ne. 18:31
31 But if he repent not he shall not be numbered among my people, that he may not destroy my people, for behold I know my sheep, and they are numbered.

Alma 5:38
38 Behold, I say unto you, that the good shepherd doth call you; yea, and in his own name he doth call you, which is the name of Christ; and if ye will not hearken unto the voice of the good shepherd, to the name by which ye are called, behold, ye are not the sheep of the good shepherd.

Doctrine and Covenants 19:23
23 Learn of me, and listen to my words; walk in the meekness of my Spirit, and you shall have peace in me.

Matthew 11:29
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Jer. 4:22
22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Mosiah 26:25 (24–27)
24 For behold, in my name are they called; and if they know me they shall come forth, and shall have a place eternally at my right hand.
25 And it shall come to pass that when the second trump shall sound then shall they that never knew me come forth and shall stand before me.
26 And then shall they know that I am the Lord their God, that I am their Redeemer; but they would not be redeemed.
27 And then I will confess unto them that I never knew them; and they shall depart into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Mosiah 5:13
13 For how knoweth a man the master whom he has not served, and who is a stranger unto him, and is far from the thoughts and intents of his heart?

Emmanuel says he doesn't like people asking who he really is, right? This is in direct conflict with scripture that clearly states that we must know the master with whom is our Lord and Savior. Red Flag One.

Does he fail in knowing all our names as a true master would know all in his employ? Red Flag Two

Does he know the number of people that actually heed him? The Lord's sheep are numbered. Red Flag Three.

Since we know that the Lord will call us by name and he himself will be called in his name, then why does he use a pseudonym, three different times no less? Red Flag Four.

Why does he bypass or even ignore questions related to his claimed identity? Why does he skirt around pertinent questions in our attempt to heed scripture and learn of him? Red Flag Five.[/quote]

And the biggest red flag of them all?!?!? Why would he be posting on ldsfreedomforum.com????

isaacs2066 wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:I am in direct contact with the Father, what I speak is coming soon people mocking are giving direct power to the adversary to act upon them in coming years, I have warned people to be humble and not mock for a good reason, I have greater understanding of eternal laws. When greater things are revealed accountability is risen and so it is that higher revelations are a double edged sword. The wise shall never make a judgement never mock another soul in life, they will understanding in spirit they will be held to account. Saying this those disrupting the flow of this thread I ask that you do not this thread is important and many reading it because of having such revelation before hand shall be better prepared for the times coming.

Why would our Father tell you things that directly contradict the scriptures he has given us before...?
Especially since your whole pitch sounds strikingly evangelical.

I would tell you to read the revelation of John very closely.

You will see that the world John describes is the one he is familiar with (europe, north africa, middle east) not the entire globe.

Second you will realize that the word antichrist does not appear there, the words false prophet do.

Third you will see that the false prophet is intimately connected with the whore of Babylon.
If you read other parts of the bible you will see that early christians called Rome Babylon, and that a women always represents a religious organization. Such as the virgin with a crown of stars which represents the true church, or the whore who represents an apostate christians church who worship idols.

In short the Pope is the false prophet or as you say the antichrist. Also the persecution all ready happened during the medieval ages and there abouts. Some estimates put the number of dead as high as 150,000,000; all because they would not go along with Catholic Rome.


I mean when are you people going to wake up and see that prophecy is and has never been fulfilled as quickly or as noticeably as we like to think.

Seriously if the fulfillment of prophecy were so clear as you and others make it sound then how in the deepest depths of hell would anyone not believe in the bible...?

In truth my Father is not your Father not directly, but mankind are potential adopted Sons and Daughters to God through the Son even Jesus Christ. This however goes both ways and mankind are also potential adopted Sons and Daughters to the Devil, hence the children of Perdition. Each soul must choose it own path they are given many opportunity's by God to come unto the fold of the Lord to receive forgiveness for sin and be resurrected and redeemed, but freewill is theirs and some reject such a offer sadly. When in past it was said to mankind to say our Father it is to give them hope, they will become children of God if overcome and are adopted through Christ hence why in revelation it speaks of future tense. What I have spoken is the truth and is what shall come to be, the false prophet you speak of prepares the way for the Antichrist he like the devils own version of Elias his own servant to prepare the way.

setyourselffree wrote:He was perhaps joking, saying I am a alien indirectly. I feel people are losing the point of this thread again focusing on me.
John 10:27
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

3 Ne. 18:31
31 But if he repent not he shall not be numbered among my people, that he may not destroy my people, for behold I know my sheep, and they are numbered.

Alma 5:38
38 Behold, I say unto you, that the good shepherd doth call you; yea, and in his own name he doth call you, which is the name of Christ; and if ye will not hearken unto the voice of the good shepherd, to the name by which ye are called, behold, ye are not the sheep of the good shepherd.

Doctrine and Covenants 19:23
23 Learn of me, and listen to my words; walk in the meekness of my Spirit, and you shall have peace in me.

Matthew 11:29
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Jer. 4:22
22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Mosiah 26:25 (24–27)
24 For behold, in my name are they called; and if they know me they shall come forth, and shall have a place eternally at my right hand.
25 And it shall come to pass that when the second trump shall sound then shall they that never knew me come forth and shall stand before me.
26 And then shall they know that I am the Lord their God, that I am their Redeemer; but they would not be redeemed.
27 And then I will confess unto them that I never knew them; and they shall depart into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Mosiah 5:13
13 For how knoweth a man the master whom he has not served, and who is a stranger unto him, and is far from the thoughts and intents of his heart?

Emmanuel says he doesn't like people asking who he really is, right? This is in direct conflict with scripture that clearly states that we must know the master with whom is our Lord and Savior. Red Flag One.

Does he fail in knowing all our names as a true master would know all in his employ? Red Flag Two

Does he know the number of people that actually heed him? The Lord's sheep are numbered. Red Flag Three.

Since we know that the Lord will call us by name and he himself will be called in his name, then why does he use a pseudonym, three different times no less? Red Flag Four.

Why does he bypass or even ignore questions related to his claimed identity? Why does he skirt around pertinent questions in our attempt to heed scripture and learn of him? Red Flag Five.

And the biggest red flag of them all?!?!? Why would he be posting on ldsfreedomforum.com????

This scripture saddens me for I must follow eternal law and sadly it will be said to many.

22And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. 23Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, 24Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. 30And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.

The wise make not judgements the unwise in haste do and it gives power to Devil to take claim of them, hence why it will be said to many who thought they knew the Godhead, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit that they never were known. People are no different to the Pharisees in this time, those of the light who shall stand that day shall know the Light before it time, but those in darkness who shall not stand will not know it. I come only for a few at this time for only a few shall be chosen for many were called and few chosen because they heeded not the call, it is in spirit a person shall know me before the time of ending.

Emmanuel wrote:
In truth my Father is not your Father not directly, but mankind are potential adopted Sons and Daughters to God through the Son even Jesus Christ.

This is a direct contradiction of LDS doctrine. I am a child of god, and I am not going to allow you, or anyone else to tell me otherwise.

"Who are we? We are children of God. 32 Our potential is unlimited. Our inheritance is sacred. May we always honor that heritage—in every thought and deed—I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen."

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markharr wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:
In truth my Father is not your Father not directly, but mankind are potential adopted Sons and Daughters to God through the Son even Jesus Christ.

This is a direct contradiction of LDS doctrine. I am a child of god, and I am not going to allow you, or anyone else to tell me otherwise.

"Who are we? We are children of God. 32 Our potential is unlimited. Our inheritance is sacred. May we always honor that heritage—in every thought and deed—I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen."

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/ ... d?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You are not the Begotten Son of God, not directly made and part of his spiritual substance. Jesus Christ is the Only true Begotten Son of God and is of same substance in spirit as his Father is and those of the Godhead. Mankind are not same as God and are were intelligences organised and giving awareness of themselves becoming a living spirit, in such a way God can be seen as their Father but it is not the same and in truth it is Jesus Christ who is the Eternal Father to adopt those saved through the atonement. Those known to be found in the Book of life can if viewing from a timeless understanding be seen as Children of God, but if viewing from moment they are still under the process of harvest and not yet choose their eternal placement in Light or Darkness.

This speaks of what I am talking about.

5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,

By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother

For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

Fr. Tommy Lane wrote:A beautiful Christian ideal to have before us is that Jesus is present in my neighbor. Jesus is in the person next to me, the person behind me, in front of me, in the person with whom I live and work. One person in recent history who lived this is Mother Teresa of Calcutta. When she was in hospital in 1983 this was part of her meditation, which we could read as a meditation on today’s Gospel (Matt 25:31-46) where Jesus said that whatever we do to others we do to him:

Jesus is the Hungry - to be fed.
Jesus is the Thirsty - to be satiated.
Jesus is the Naked - to be clothed.
Jesus is the Homeless - to be taken in.
Jesus is the Sick - to be healed.
Jesus is the Lonely - to be loved.
Jesus is the Unwanted - to be wanted.
Jesus is the Leper - to wash his wounds.
Jesus is the Beggar - to give him a smile.
Jesus is the Drunkard - to listen to him.
Jesus is the Mental - to protect him.
Jesus is the Little One - to embrace him.
Jesus is the Blind - to lead him.
Jesus is the Dumb - to speak for him.
Jesus is the Crippled - to walk with him.
Jesus is the Drug Addict - to befriend him.
Jesus is the Prostitute - to remove from danger and befriend her.
Jesus is the Prisoner - to be visited.
Jesus is the Old - to be served.

Mother Teresa wrote:“To be able to love one another, we must pray much, for prayer gives a clean heart and a clean heart can see God in our neighbor. If now we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten how to see God in one another. If each person saw God in his neighbor, do you think we would need guns and bombs?”

Fr. Tommy Lane wrote:Thinking like this means thinking in a new way, putting on a new mind, letting our brains be washed with the Gospel of Jesus. And as Mother Teresa said, it is through prayer that we will receive the grace to see others with this new mind of Jesus.

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-Finrock

Emmanuel wrote:The wise make not judgements the unwise in haste do and it gives power to Devil to take claim of them, hence why it will be said to many who thought they knew the Godhead, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit that they never were known. People are no different to the Pharisees in this time, those of the light who shall stand that day shall know the Light before it time, but those in darkness who shall not stand will not know it. I come only for a few at this time for only a few shall be chosen for many were called and few chosen because they heeded not the call, it is in spirit a person shall know me before the time of ending.

See, we're back on the judgement platform. There are many people with the power of discernment through the Holy Priesthood of God, so we can avoid wolves in sheep's clothing that preach their own gospel and build themselves up as a light to the world. We are on a world wide forum are we not?

Further we read in scripture about not responding to people claiming to be other than what they truly are.

Mark 13:21
21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

Christ is so pure, so powerful that the wicked will wither before him and will not desire to behold his face because of shame.

If Christ were to come on this forum and speak, I'm certain that more than just a few souls would feel his presence and shed tears profusely. Yet many of us feel heavy darkness and very little enlightenment.

Now let's read what is to really take place and learn a great caution here.

Mark 13:21-27
21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
24 ¶But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

This is the Savior I seek, not a false Christ as prophesied attempting to deceive the very elect.

markharr wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:
In truth my Father is not your Father not directly, but mankind are potential adopted Sons and Daughters to God through the Son even Jesus Christ.

This is a direct contradiction of LDS doctrine. I am a child of god, and I am not going to allow you, or anyone else to tell me otherwise.

"Who are we? We are children of God. 32 Our potential is unlimited. Our inheritance is sacred. May we always honor that heritage—in every thought and deed—I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen."

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/ ... d?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Your potential is limited to the sphere you will be placed in by yours work while living upon earth. And it is impossible to become a Godhead if not already part of it eternal chain, for the Son of God was already in the Bosom of the Father even before he was Begotten in the Flesh. And before mankind as intelligences were organised into living spirits the Son was with the Father. Lucifer himself believed he could have unlimited potential and become the Godhead he sought himself to rise above God, spirits should be very careful with such thinking and remain humble and meek with a contrite spirit repenting of their sins. People should realise how blessed they are to be saved from damnation from the grip of Abaddon the Devil, not be seeking to be glorified and believe they are equal in potential and power as the Godhead.

freedomforall wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:

setyourselffree wrote:He was perhaps joking, saying I am a alien indirectly. I feel people are losing the point of this thread again focusing on me.
John 10:27
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

3 Ne. 18:31
31 But if he repent not he shall not be numbered among my people, that he may not destroy my people, for behold I know my sheep, and they are numbered.

Alma 5:38
38 Behold, I say unto you, that the good shepherd doth call you; yea, and in his own name he doth call you, which is the name of Christ; and if ye will not hearken unto the voice of the good shepherd, to the name by which ye are called, behold, ye are not the sheep of the good shepherd.

Doctrine and Covenants 19:23
23 Learn of me, and listen to my words; walk in the meekness of my Spirit, and you shall have peace in me.

Matthew 11:29
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Jer. 4:22
22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Mosiah 26:25 (24–27)
24 For behold, in my name are they called; and if they know me they shall come forth, and shall have a place eternally at my right hand.
25 And it shall come to pass that when the second trump shall sound then shall they that never knew me come forth and shall stand before me.
26 And then shall they know that I am the Lord their God, that I am their Redeemer; but they would not be redeemed.
27 And then I will confess unto them that I never knew them; and they shall depart into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Mosiah 5:13
13 For how knoweth a man the master whom he has not served, and who is a stranger unto him, and is far from the thoughts and intents of his heart?

Emmanuel says he doesn't like people asking who he really is, right? This is in direct conflict with scripture that clearly states that we must know the master with whom is our Lord and Savior. Red Flag One.

Does he fail in knowing all our names as a true master would know all in his employ? Red Flag Two

Does he know the number of people that actually heed him? The Lord's sheep are numbered. Red Flag Three.

Since we know that the Lord will call us by name and he himself will be called in his name, then why does he use a pseudonym, three different times no less? Red Flag Four.

Why does he bypass or even ignore questions related to his claimed identity? Why does he skirt around pertinent questions in our attempt to heed scripture and learn of him? Red Flag Five.

And the biggest red flag of them all?!?!? Why would he be posting on ldsfreedomforum.com????

This scripture saddens me for I must follow eternal law and sadly it will be said to many.

22And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. 23Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, 24Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. 30And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.

The wise make not judgements the unwise in haste do and it gives power to Devil to take claim of them, hence why it will be said to many who thought they knew the Godhead, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit that they never were known. People are no different to the Pharisees in this time, those of the light who shall stand that day shall know the Light before it time, but those in darkness who shall not stand will not know it. I come only for a few at this time for only a few shall be chosen for many were called and few chosen because they heeded not the call, it is in spirit a person shall know me before the time of ending.

See, we're back on the judgement platform. There are many people with the power of discernment through the Holy Priesthood of God, so we can avoid wolves in sheep's clothing that preach their own gospel and build themselves up as a light to the world. We are on a world wide forum are we not?

Further we read in scripture about not responding to people claiming to be other than what they truly are.

Mark 13:21
21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

Christ is so pure, so powerful that the wicked will wither before him and will not desire to behold his face because of shame.

If Christ were to come on this forum and speak, I'm certain that more than just a few souls would feel his presence and shed tears profusely. Yet many of us feel heavy darkness and very little enlightenment.

Now let's read what is to rfeally take place and learn a great caution here.

Mark 13:21-27
21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
24 ¶But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

This is the Savior I seek, not a false Christ as prophesied attempting to deceive the very elect.

Read carefully what you are trying to quote against me, for posting on a forum does not contradict that warning I have given. And many false Christ have arisen and more are to come even some will view the Antichrist as Christ and God. Judge not that ye be not judged...

Those capable of seeing the Light shall and some were given a witness, those who feel darkness is because they are still in darkness and darkness comprehend not the light.

Emmanuel wrote:People should realise how blessed they are to be saved from damnation from the grip of Abaddon the Devil, not be seeking to be glorified and believe they are equal in potential and power as the Godhead.

Does this include you?

Jehovah is Jesus Christ. Jehovah, The Father, Jesus, the flesh or the Only Begotten Son...Mosiah 15:1-5 The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are "one". The Father bears witness of the Son, the Son bears witness of the Father, and the Father and Son bear witness of the Holy Ghost...being our great Godhead.
We can become the Sons and daughters of Jesus through personal righteousness, and be heirs with him in the CK.

The only fatherhood Satan can claim is to be the Father of Lies. Abaddon is most likely Satan, himself. He has the key to the bottomless pit and will be thrust down into it along with all his followers.

Cain will be ruler over Satan because Satan does not have a body.

freedomforall wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:People should realise how blessed they are to be saved from damnation from the grip of Abaddon the Devil, not be seeking to be glorified and believe they are equal in potential and power as the Godhead.

Does this include you?

Jehovah is Jesus Christ. Jehovah, The Father, Jesus, the flesh or the Only Begotten Son...Mosiah 15:1-5 The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are "one". The Father bears witness of the Son, the Son bears witness of the Father, and the Father and Son bear witness of the Holy Ghost...being our great Godhead.
We can become the Sons and daughters of Jesus through personal righteousness, and be heirs with him in the CK.

The only fatherhood Satan can claim is to be the Father of Lies. Abaddon is most likely Satan, himself. He has the key to the bottomless pit and will be thrust down into it along with all his followers.

Cain will be ruler over Satan because Satan does not have a body.

I am of the Godhead, but I seek not glory only to fulfil my Fathers will but he glorify me as I glorify Him. Our Glory is in the salvation of souls in saving them from the damnation of Darkness.

A part of Godhead is always working upon the mortal worlds to appease eternal law, I am that part and I am known as the Son. The Holy Spirit works behind the mortal world in spirit witnessing to those capable of hearing it but the Son fulfils all requirements of atonement.

Abaddon is a Satan the Devil, but not same as Lucifer the fallen morning star. Abaddon is a greater Devil than Lucifer the morning star and is much older, older than this universe even. Abaddon rules the Outer Darkness he is the end result for Lucifer and his Angels they have been mislead and believe they will remain as rulers of underworld of hades forever, but in time of final judgement Abaddon will take them into the torment of Perdition.

Emmanuel wrote:Read carefully what you are trying to quote against me, for posting on a forum does not contradict that warning I have given. And many false Christ have arisen and more are to come even some will view the Antichrist as Christ and God. Judge not that ye be not judged...

Still on the judgement platform, huh?
I intend on not being deceived as written, by any false Christ or anyone claiming to be him. It is written that the righteous will see him when he comes in glory down out of the clouds and will be raised to greet him in the air.
You may call this judgement. I call it being wise and in line with scripture.

In D&C 46 we learn that many people will have the power to discern spirits. When they come across a spirit that feels dark, they have the right to judge that spirit for what it is. So your judgement card has no sound corroboration within scripture. It is a gift of God to mankind who seek after it. Gifts of various types are given to all those that keep all the commandments...and him that seeketh so to do. Doctrine and Covenants 46:9
Judging you would be like someone labeling you harshly and in a belittling manner.
The discerning of spirits is very real and is very helpful so as to not be deceived.

Emmanuel wrote:Once he has deceived all mankind and they have been filled in hope and have heeded him and obeyed him. He will reveal his true colour darkening their hearts leading people to believe sacrifice and worship of underworld is necessary for a souls development. He will be cunning in how he goes about this but at a point around time known as Abomination of Desolation he will become aggressive, making threats against any who will not obey him and accept his mark. He will use means of fear and bring fear upon the people making them feel now hopeless and afraid that if they don't do as he says they will be tortured and killed and see their family's tortured and killed, he will demand all renounce Jesus Christ and accept him as God and make covenants, oaths and sacrifices to him and his Father. And anyone who does renounce Jesus Christ enters condemnation even the binding to lake of fire to Outer darkness for anyone who takes part in the Abomination of Desolation will commit the unforgivable sin and become sealed and bound to Abaddon.

Hi Emmanuel. I have appreciated your words in all the places I have read them. Thank you.

Unless I'm miss understanding you, it sounds like those who are deceived by the AntiChrist will be those who did not know Christ. If they (those deceived) did not know Christ, who then will renounce Christ? Or, what does it mean to renounce Christ?

I hope my questions make sense.

-Finrock

freedomforall wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:Read carefully what you are trying to quote against me, for posting on a forum does not contradict that warning I have given. And many false Christ have arisen and more are to come even some will view the Antichrist as Christ and God. Judge not that ye be not judged...

Still on the judgement platform, huh?
I intend on not being deceived as written, by any false Christ or anyone claiming to be him. It is written that the righteous will see him when he comes in glory down out of the clouds and will be raised to greet him in the air.
You may call this judgement. I call it being wise and in line with scripture.

In D&C 46 we learn that many people will have the power to discern spirits. When they come across a spirit that feels dark, they have the right to judge that spirit for what it is. So your judgement card has no sound corroboration within scripture. It is a gift of God to mankind who seek after it. Gifts of various types are given to all those that keep all the commandments...and him that seeketh so to do. Doctrine and Covenants 46:9
Judging you would be like someone labeling you harshly and in a belittling manner.
The discerning of spirits is very real and is very helpful so as to not be deceived.

My posts are for the meek and humble who are observing but not making judgements and for those who have been kind in words, if the forum had only vipers I would give no pearls upon it. Many who have spoken against me are as the Pharisees of old, even quoting scriptures not even understanding the scriptures they quoted. The Pharisees say to Jesus he has a spirit of devil, they felt darkness as you do and some others and when they died they entered into that darkness they felt, are people to follow that same path.

Wisdom does not come by scripture but by spiritual discernment which can only come upon the meek and humble who lack pride that blinds them. There is some upon this forum my Father gave them a witness because they were open to it and their is some upon this forum that the Light they did have has been withdrawn due to judgements.

I am coming in the future again as a cleansing fire, and the concept of clouds is symbolic of opening dimensions hence the Heavens parted as a scroll. That day will be a terrifying day for mankind because all things will be shaken and all things not able to stand will burn up in my presence for who can stand in the Light of God and not perish, for even the Sun and stars will be ashamed.

Anyone judging now by eternal law must face the judgement, heed the warnings if like that is why all mankind should stop judgements, discernment is not the same as a judgement.

Emmanuel wrote:

freedomforall wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:People should realise how blessed they are to be saved from damnation from the grip of Abaddon the Devil, not be seeking to be glorified and believe they are equal in potential and power as the Godhead.

Does this include you?

Jehovah is Jesus Christ. Jehovah, The Father, Jesus, the flesh or the Only Begotten Son...Mosiah 15:1-5 The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are "one". The Father bears witness of the Son, the Son bears witness of the Father, and the Father and Son bear witness of the Holy Ghost...being our great Godhead.
We can become the Sons and daughters of Jesus through personal righteousness, and be heirs with him in the CK.

The only fatherhood Satan can claim is to be the Father of Lies. Abaddon is most likely Satan, himself. He has the key to the bottomless pit and will be thrust down into it along with all his followers.

Cain will be ruler over Satan because Satan does not have a body.

I am of the Godhead, but I seek not glory only to fulfil my Fathers will but he glorify me as I glorify Him. Our Glory is in the salvation of souls in saving them from the damnation of Darkness.

A part of Godhead is always working upon the mortal worlds to appease eternal law, I am that part and I am known as the Son. The Holy Spirit works behind the mortal world in spirit witnessing to those capable of hearing it but the Son fulfils all requirements of atonement.

Abaddon is a Satan the Devil, but not same as Lucifer the fallen morning star. Abaddon is a greater Devil than Lucifer the morning star and is much older, older than this universe even. Abaddon rules the Outer Darkness he is the end result for Lucifer and his Angels they have been mislead and believe they will remain as rulers of underworld of hades forever, but in time of final judgement Abaddon will take them into the torment of Perdition.

I just got through describing the Godhead. Three persons, not four or more. There are other Gods but only three in the head of them all. Abr. 4:1

God, Godhead
There are three separate persons in the Godhead: God, the Eternal Father; his Son, Jesus Christ; and the Holy Ghost. We believe in each of them (A of F 1:1). From latter-day revelation we learn that the Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bone and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit, without flesh and bone (D&C 130:22–23). These three persons are one in perfect unity and harmony of purpose and doctrine (John 17:21–23; 2 Ne. 31:21; 3 Ne. 11:27, 36).

God the Father
It is generally the Father, or Elohim, who is referred to by the title God. He is called the Father because he is the father of our spirits (Mal. 2:10; Num. 16:22; 27:16; Matt. 6:9; Eph. 4:6; Heb. 12:9). God the Father is the supreme ruler of the universe. He is all powerful (Gen. 18:14; Alma 26:35; D&C 19:1–3), all knowing (Matt. 6:8; 2 Ne. 2:24), and everywhere present through his Spirit (Ps. 139:7–12; D&C 88:7–13, 41). Mankind has a special relationship to God that sets man apart from all other created things: men and women are God’s spirit children (Ps. 82:6; 1 Jn. 3:1–3; D&C 20:17–18).

There are few recorded instances of God the Father appearing to or speaking to man. The scriptures say that he spoke to Adam and Eve (Moses 4:14–31) and introduced Jesus Christ on several occasions (Matt. 3:17; 17:5; John 12:28–29; 3 Ne. 11:3–7). He appeared to Stephen (Acts 7:55–56) and Joseph Smith (JS—H 1:17). Later he appeared to both Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon (D&C 76:20, 23). To those who love God and purify themselves before him, God sometimes grants the privilege of seeing and knowing for themselves that he is God (Matt. 5:8; 3 Ne. 12:8; D&C 76:116–118; 93:1).

Finrock wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:Once he has deceived all mankind and they have been filled in hope and have heeded him and obeyed him. He will reveal his true colour darkening their hearts leading people to believe sacrifice and worship of underworld is necessary for a souls development. He will be cunning in how he goes about this but at a point around time known as Abomination of Desolation he will become aggressive, making threats against any who will not obey him and accept his mark. He will use means of fear and bring fear upon the people making them feel now hopeless and afraid that if they don't do as he says they will be tortured and killed and see their family's tortured and killed, he will demand all renounce Jesus Christ and accept him as God and make covenants, oaths and sacrifices to him and his Father. And anyone who does renounce Jesus Christ enters condemnation even the binding to lake of fire to Outer darkness for anyone who takes part in the Abomination of Desolation will commit the unforgivable sin and become sealed and bound to Abaddon.

Hi Emmanuel. I have appreciated your words in all the places I have read them. Thank you.

Unless I'm miss understanding you, it sounds like those who are deceived by the AntiChrist will be those who did not know Christ. If they (those deceived) did not know Christ, who then will renounce Christ? Or, what does it mean to renounce Christ?

I hope my questions make sense.

-Finrock

You are welcome, those who will be deceived will be those who had no oil in their lamps to endure the time of darkness with a guiding light to see the truth. For the Spirit is going be poured out upon those who have oil in their lamps upon the 6th seal and their will be people even prophecy in those days against what Antichrist is doing, they will end up giving their life for their faith in Christ and do so at peace knowing they are saved. The ones to be deceived are they who lacked oil for did not truly learn the meanings of scripture and apply it to their life's, they lacked the wisdom of spiritual discernment and hence could not know truth from lies in it time of darkness.

People will be facing situations of great difficulty and the Antichrist will know peoples fears and use them to try break them into renouncing Christ, by renouncing it means to choose to follow the Antichrist and upon doing so and taking part in rituals and killing to save their own life's, they are taken over and lose touch with the Light they once had. This scripture will help.

18Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. 19When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. 20But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; 21Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. 22He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

Those who when tribulation came when they were persecuted who landed upon stony ground had no root, no strong faith in them to stand in that time and so they fell. Look to the example of the disciples look at the things they went through but did not renounce Christ, some Christians in that time of tribulations will go through similar and be justified by eternal law to be of the first resurrection and present with Abraham and the prophets in the day of burning. This scripture will help understand.

And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Those in that time who hold their faith unto death against whatever may come, they are they it speaks about in this scripture that are Blessed and will rest and be with the Prophets avoiding the underworld all together.

freedomforall wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:

freedomforall wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:People should realise how blessed they are to be saved from damnation from the grip of Abaddon the Devil, not be seeking to be glorified and believe they are equal in potential and power as the Godhead.

Does this include you?

Jehovah is Jesus Christ. Jehovah, The Father, Jesus, the flesh or the Only Begotten Son...Mosiah 15:1-5 The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are "one". The Father bears witness of the Son, the Son bears witness of the Father, and the Father and Son bear witness of the Holy Ghost...being our great Godhead.
We can become the Sons and daughters of Jesus through personal righteousness, and be heirs with him in the CK.

The only fatherhood Satan can claim is to be the Father of Lies. Abaddon is most likely Satan, himself. He has the key to the bottomless pit and will be thrust down into it along with all his followers.

Cain will be ruler over Satan because Satan does not have a body.

I am of the Godhead, but I seek not glory only to fulfil my Fathers will but he glorify me as I glorify Him. Our Glory is in the salvation of souls in saving them from the damnation of Darkness.

A part of Godhead is always working upon the mortal worlds to appease eternal law, I am that part and I am known as the Son. The Holy Spirit works behind the mortal world in spirit witnessing to those capable of hearing it but the Son fulfils all requirements of atonement.

Abaddon is a Satan the Devil, but not same as Lucifer the fallen morning star. Abaddon is a greater Devil than Lucifer the morning star and is much older, older than this universe even. Abaddon rules the Outer Darkness he is the end result for Lucifer and his Angels they have been mislead and believe they will remain as rulers of underworld of hades forever, but in time of final judgement Abaddon will take them into the torment of Perdition.

I just got through describing the Godhead. Three persons, not four or more. There are other Gods but only three in the head of them all. Abr. 4:1

God, Godhead
There are three separate persons in the Godhead: God, the Eternal Father; his Son, Jesus Christ; and the Holy Ghost. We believe in each of them (A of F 1:1). From latter-day revelation we learn that the Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bone and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit, without flesh and bone (D&C 130:22–23). These three persons are one in perfect unity and harmony of purpose and doctrine (John 17:21–23; 2 Ne. 31:21; 3 Ne. 11:27, 36).

God the Father
It is generally the Father, or Elohim, who is referred to by the title God. He is called the Father because he is the father of our spirits (Mal. 2:10; Num. 16:22; 27:16; Matt. 6:9; Eph. 4:6; Heb. 12:9). God the Father is the supreme ruler of the universe. He is all powerful (Gen. 18:14; Alma 26:35; D&C 19:1–3), all knowing (Matt. 6:8; 2 Ne. 2:24), and everywhere present through his Spirit (Ps. 139:7–12; D&C 88:7–13, 41). Mankind has a special relationship to God that sets man apart from all other created things: men and women are God’s spirit children (Ps. 82:6; 1 Jn. 3:1–3; D&C 20:17–18).

There are few recorded instances of God the Father appearing to or speaking to man. The scriptures say that he spoke to Adam and Eve (Moses 4:14–31) and introduced Jesus Christ on several occasions (Matt. 3:17; 17:5; John 12:28–29; 3 Ne. 11:3–7). He appeared to Stephen (Acts 7:55–56) and Joseph Smith (JS—H 1:17). Later he appeared to both Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon (D&C 76:20, 23). To those who love God and purify themselves before him, God sometimes grants the privilege of seeing and knowing for themselves that he is God (Matt. 5:8; 3 Ne. 12:8; D&C 76:116–118; 93:1).

Higher dimensional body's if entered this sphere even a Angel would cause earthquakes and storms, as such the true form of God is reserved until the final day of this universe and that form is what is spoken about that Suns and Stars will be ashamed and all things will be shaken and burn up that can not remain in it light. Visions are not same as direct visitation of higher dimensional forms, lesser organisations of body are necessary to fulfil any requirements upon mortal worlds, the true body of God can not enter a universe without all things burning up and shaking just by power and presence of His Light. This is why limitations of mortality were necessary with the atonement it had to be done under certain conditions and is still in process it is truly finished when all souls are brought forth for judgement and resurrected and redeemed from Hades and Death. Then and only then is it truly finished for the atonement has always been about the right to resurrect the dead to bring them forth out of the underworlds to save them from the Darkness.

Emmanuel wrote:

freedomforall wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:Read carefully what you are trying to quote against me, for posting on a forum does not contradict that warning I have given. And many false Christ have arisen and more are to come even some will view the Antichrist as Christ and God. Judge not that ye be not judged...

Still on the judgement platform, huh?
I intend on not being deceived as written, by any false Christ or anyone claiming to be him. It is written that the righteous will see him when he comes in glory down out of the clouds and will be raised to greet him in the air.
You may call this judgement. I call it being wise and in line with scripture.

In D&C 46 we learn that many people will have the power to discern spirits. When they come across a spirit that feels dark, they have the right to judge that spirit for what it is. So your judgement card has no sound corroboration within scripture. It is a gift of God to mankind who seek after it. Gifts of various types are given to all those that keep all the commandments...and him that seeketh so to do. Doctrine and Covenants 46:9
Judging you would be like someone labeling you harshly and in a belittling manner.
The discerning of spirits is very real and is very helpful so as to not be deceived.

My posts are for the meek and humble who are observing but not making judgements and for those who have been kind in words, if the forum had only vipers I would give no pearls upon it. Many who have spoken against me are as the Pharisees of old, even quoting scriptures not even understanding the scriptures they quoted. The Pharisees say to Jesus he has a spirit of devil, they felt darkness as you do and some others and when they died they entered into that darkness they felt, are people to follow that same path.

Wisdom does not come by scripture but by spiritual discernment which can only come upon the meek and humble who lack pride that blinds them. There is some upon this forum my Father gave them a witness because they were open to it and their is some upon this forum that the Light they did have has been withdrawn due to judgements.

I am coming in the future again as a cleansing fire, and the concept of clouds is symbolic of opening dimensions hence the Heavens parted as a scroll. That day will be a terrifying day for mankind because all things will be shaken and all things not able to stand will burn up in my presence for who can stand in the Light of God and not perish, for even the Sun and stars will be ashamed.

Anyone judging now by eternal law must face the judgement, heed the warnings if like that is why all mankind should stop judgements, discernment is not the same as a judgement.

Your words do not match scripture, not even close. You know me not, because I have the gift of discernment. Discernment is the ability to detect false spirits and is of God. Period. Or don't you know D&C 46?

For it says very plainly:

7 But ye are commanded in all things to ask of God, who giveth liberally; and that which the Spirit testifies unto you even so I would that ye should do in all holiness of heart, walking uprightly before me, considering the end of your salvation, doing all things with prayer and thanksgiving, that ye may not be seduced by evil spirits, or doctrines of devils, or the commandments of men; for some are of men, and others of devils.
8 Wherefore, beware lest ye are deceived; and that ye may not be deceived seek ye earnestly the best gifts, always remembering for what they are given;
9 For verily I say unto you, they are given for the benefit of those who love me and keep all my commandments, and him that seeketh so to do; that all may be benefited that seek or that ask of me, that ask and not for a sign that they may consume it upon their lusts.
10 And again, verily I say unto you, I would that ye should always remember, and always retain in your minds what those gifts are, that are given unto the church.

Judging spirits is a commandment you claim is harsh judging. If you were truly a part of the Godhead you would already know this.
Plus, you say others will go to hell, hades, for not accepting you, is this not judging? Can you listen to yourself and see you do as we are blamed of? Is it not problematic? Red Flag Seven.

What does this scripture tell us in the full sense?

Mosiah 18:9
9 Yea, and are willing to mourn with those that mourn; yea, and comfort those that stand in need of comfort, and to stand as witnesses of God at all times and in all things, and in all places that ye may be in, even until death, that ye may be redeemed of God, and be numbered with those of the first resurrection, that ye may have eternal life—

freedomforall wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:

freedomforall wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:Read carefully what you are trying to quote against me, for posting on a forum does not contradict that warning I have given. And many false Christ have arisen and more are to come even some will view the Antichrist as Christ and God. Judge not that ye be not judged...

Still on the judgement platform, huh?
I intend on not being deceived as written, by any false Christ or anyone claiming to be him. It is written that the righteous will see him when he comes in glory down out of the clouds and will be raised to greet him in the air.
You may call this judgement. I call it being wise and in line with scripture.

In D&C 46 we learn that many people will have the power to discern spirits. When they come across a spirit that feels dark, they have the right to judge that spirit for what it is. So your judgement card has no sound corroboration within scripture. It is a gift of God to mankind who seek after it. Gifts of various types are given to all those that keep all the commandments...and him that seeketh so to do. Doctrine and Covenants 46:9
Judging you would be like someone labeling you harshly and in a belittling manner.
The discerning of spirits is very real and is very helpful so as to not be deceived.

My posts are for the meek and humble who are observing but not making judgements and for those who have been kind in words, if the forum had only vipers I would give no pearls upon it. Many who have spoken against me are as the Pharisees of old, even quoting scriptures not even understanding the scriptures they quoted. The Pharisees say to Jesus he has a spirit of devil, they felt darkness as you do and some others and when they died they entered into that darkness they felt, are people to follow that same path.

Wisdom does not come by scripture but by spiritual discernment which can only come upon the meek and humble who lack pride that blinds them. There is some upon this forum my Father gave them a witness because they were open to it and their is some upon this forum that the Light they did have has been withdrawn due to judgements.

I am coming in the future again as a cleansing fire, and the concept of clouds is symbolic of opening dimensions hence the Heavens parted as a scroll. That day will be a terrifying day for mankind because all things will be shaken and all things not able to stand will burn up in my presence for who can stand in the Light of God and not perish, for even the Sun and stars will be ashamed.

Anyone judging now by eternal law must face the judgement, heed the warnings if like that is why all mankind should stop judgements, discernment is not the same as a judgement.

Your words do not match scripture, not even close. You know me not, because I have the gift of discernment. Discernment is the ability to detect false spirits and is of God. Period. Or don't you know D&C 46?

For it says very plainly:

7 But ye are commanded in all things to ask of God, who giveth liberally; and that which the Spirit testifies unto you even so I would that ye should do in all holiness of heart, walking uprightly before me, considering the end of your salvation, doing all things with prayer and thanksgiving, that ye may not be seduced by evil spirits, or doctrines of devils, or the commandments of men; for some are of men, and others of devils.
8 Wherefore, beware lest ye are deceived; and that ye may not be deceived seek ye earnestly the best gifts, always remembering for what they are given;
9 For verily I say unto you, they are given for the benefit of those who love me and keep all my commandments, and him that seeketh so to do; that all may be benefited that seek or that ask of me, that ask and not for a sign that they may consume it upon their lusts.
10 And again, verily I say unto you, I would that ye should always remember, and always retain in your minds what those gifts are, that are given unto the church.

Judging spirits is a commandment you claim is harsh judging. If you were truly a part of the Godhead you would already know this.
Plus, you say others will go to hell, hades, for not accepting you, is this not judging? Can you listen to yourself and see you do as we are blamed of? Is it not problematic? Red Flag Seven.

A day will come all who has judged shall be judged and measured as they have measured, so shall they as they measured the Son be measured by the Son and so it is they who saith he be devil shall be seen as a devil by the Son and cast from presence of God. These are they it is said only through much tribulation shall they be forgiven for some must enter Hell a time until a later resurrection. You re not judging things the way that scripture has spoken you are judging the same way the Pharisees judged Christ.

Now knowing eternal law I have said how things are and why a soul should not be judging other souls, if a person saith to another they be a devil and that other be not a devil that soul who saith such is at risk of being counted by God as a devil. It is best people do not judge but learn proper spiritual discernment.

You have spent all your time trying to justify yourself and your views both in the past and present and have missed the very Light before you, if you had put all that energy into preparing yourself and removing the mote from your own eyes, then you would have been better prepared for what is soon to come. Now I offer forgiveness still unto all for they know not what they do but this forgiveness will not come easily upon the opening of sixth seal and fall of Babylon; do not procrastinate your time of repentance.

freedomforall wrote:What does this scripture tell us in the full sense?

Mosiah 18:9
9 Yea, and are willing to mourn with those that mourn; yea, and comfort those that stand in need of comfort, and to stand as witnesses of God at all times and in all things, and in all places that ye may be in, even until death, that ye may be redeemed of God, and be numbered with those of the first resurrection, that ye may have eternal life—

A person must first know God before can stand as a witness for God...

freedomforall wrote:To those who love God and purify themselves before him, God sometimes grants the privilege of seeing and knowing for themselves that he is God (Matt. 5:8; 3 Ne. 12:8; D&C 76:116–118; 93:1).

Hi freedomforall. I hope you have been well!

You say we must purify ourselves before God. I don't understand this because I keep thinking to myself if something is not pure, how can it purify itself? So, in sincerity, how have you or how are you going about purifying yourself?

-Finrock