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When is it going to end, Emma? If I ask you nicely will you leave me alone?

Matchmaker wrote:When is it going to end, Emma? If I ask you nicely will you leave me alone?

????? YOU asked me to comment on this thread!! I will be HAPPY to leave you alone. Will YOU leave ME alone??

Ladies and gentlemen, Jesus has left the building. And I mean that really. Have fun with you excrement flinging contest. And yes I know that me calling you guys out for being hypocrites indeed makes me a hypocrite, but it is a charge I'm willing to accept for I am indeed a hypocrite and a sinner. Are you prepared to accept the judgement you are leveling at this man?

I asked for your testimony. I won't ask anymore.

SmallFarm wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:

SmallFarm wrote:Shadow, do you think you're mockery of this fool is Christlike or do you care?

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

I have made no judgement against you. I am seeking to counsel Shadow from his perspective. I need not make a judgement against you to judge your words, some I have accepted as truth and some I have not. I'm happy that you sustain the leaders of the LDS church. I am disgusted by my fellows here on the forum who approach you in judgement.
I count you as a friend and wish you well.

Thank-you for clarifying, it was the comment saying fool reason spirit prompted me to show that scripture not only for you but for all watching, it is very important people realise why such is said it involves eternal laws and those seeking the kingdom of God must stop this mockery and judgement or will never achieve it. I am your friend ye shall not be forgotten those who seek to be peace keeper shall be called the children of God.

SmallFarm wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, Jesus has left the building. And I mean that really. Have fun with you excrement flinging contest. And yes I know that me calling you guys out for being hypocrites indeed makes me a hypocrite, but it is a charge I'm willing to accept for I am indeed a hypocrite and a sinner. Are you prepared to accept the judgement you are leveling at this man?

Are you including me in that statement?? As I have no ill feelings towards Emmanuel. Or you. Or me. I think that's important.

Well this thread has been a kick in the pants. Emmanuel... I just don't know what to say to you dude. My Savior would never tell me that if I died right now that I would go to Hell. Maybe spirit prison? Hopefully paradise. You have some cool things to say. But alas, you have given yourself up as insincere too many times to post. The devil stirreth hearts to anger. Everyone take a step back and chill.

This scripture is a reminder to some-

13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

The adversary does not want me helping some on this forum and has put it into the hearts of some to disrupt when I speak here, to bring judgements, mockery, scoffing and all manner of evils. This allows by eternal law him great power in the time of the fall both upon those saying it and those agreeing with it and playing along. When much is given much is expected and I have revealed perhaps to much in my time in this forum, it saddens me that the Church has been filled with those who are not brethren and for this reason soon cometh a time of threshing that my true saints may be blessed and gathered and the tares among them cast out, for just as with the tribes of Israel when Moses was leading them to Israel not all endured and many fell away so is it like this in these days. For not all who has been called Mormon shall God see as a Mormon but only those who live by my Fathers will which is good, no unclean thing shall enter therein to the kingdom of God, all must first be purified and for some that shall mean great tribulation but for others it shall simple be a translation for they were kind and full of charity and were living the gospel not only reading and speaking it. I bless you all that you may repent of all your sins and make a change in spirit before the judgements do come, for upon the events of the sixth seal then cometh my Wrath upon the nations of mankind and it cometh upon those who tempt the Lord if they do not repent. May you all learnt the meaning of the commandment love thy neighbour as thyself and love thy God with all your heart, for truly I see few are living it and so how can they understand the commandments of Moses.

Ezra wrote:

SmallFarm wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, Jesus has left the building. And I mean that really. Have fun with you excrement flinging contest. And yes I know that me calling you guys out for being hypocrites indeed makes me a hypocrite, but it is a charge I'm willing to accept for I am indeed a hypocrite and a sinner. Are you prepared to accept the judgement you are leveling at this man?

Are you including me in that statement?? As I have no ill feelings towards Emmanuel. Or you. Or me. I think that's important.

Only those who have used meanspiritedness to charge in on their white horse to refute him. Those who are reasoning with him kindly are blameless.

mattj wrote:Well this thread has been a kick in the pants. Emmanuel... I just don't know what to say to you dude. My Savior would never tell me that if I died right now that I would go to Hell. Maybe spirit prison? Hopefully paradise. You have some cool things to say. But alas, you have given yourself up as insincere too many times to post. The devil stirreth hearts to anger. Everyone take a step back and chill.

The Saviour would tell a soul if it is on the path of destruction to turn away from it, the Devil would encourage it to continue that path. The spirit of justice is much harsher in it language than that of spirit of peace, for even Joseph smith after holding the spirit of peace for so long in the jail from all the wickedness being spoken around him spoke through the spirit of justice and what he spoke was harsh and truth. The spirit prison is part of Hell the underworlds is a Hell in it own right, mankind do not understand the situation they are in and what truly happens at death for most. Few I tell you made it to Abraham's Bosom and many souls right now are trapped in underworlds and it is the intention of God to release them for judgement to give them a chance to repent for they can not do so while dead only while resurrected.

So what do you have, mac or pc?
How does Jesus surf the web?

Emmanuel wrote:

Sirocco wrote:

Matchmaker wrote:This thread is sacred ground. Tread lightly.

How?

You are a soul seeking but are not yet understanding you do, you would not be here at this time if you were not seeking something. You spend many of your words wasted when could have great potential of wisdom if but would humble oneself and listen. I offer you forgiveness of all things you have spoken against others but do no more and come and follow the example of the body of Christ.

Only Jesus Christ Himself can forgive sins.

KurtTheMormon wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:

Sirocco wrote:

Matchmaker wrote:This thread is sacred ground. Tread lightly.

How?

You are a soul seeking but are not yet understanding you do, you would not be here at this time if you were not seeking something. You spend many of your words wasted when could have great potential of wisdom if but would humble oneself and listen. I offer you forgiveness of all things you have spoken against others but do no more and come and follow the example of the body of Christ.

Only Jesus Christ Himself can forgive sins.

I am He.

And yet for all your divinity you can't prove it to me.
Maybe there'd be a bit more faith in the flesh but the internet, it's the easiest place ever made to lie.
I pretended I was a girl in Diablo 2 to get free things.
This is a tad more important then that...

KurtTheMormon wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:

Sirocco wrote:

Matchmaker wrote:This thread is sacred ground. Tread lightly.

You are a soul seeking but are not yet understanding you do, you would not be here at this time if you were not seeking something. You spend many of your words wasted when could have great potential of wisdom if but would humble oneself and listen. I offer you forgiveness of all things you have spoken against others but do no more and come and follow the example of the body of Christ.

Only Jesus Christ Himself can forgive sins.

I am He.

If you are Jesus Christ, then you would know all things about my life.

Tell me in what manner I received a scar on my right forefinger.

Dear Emmanuel, dear sweet Emmanuel, dear kind Emmanuel, you are not who you say. I say this in all sincerity, go back to the home and take your meds, everything will be alright. Delusions are common in mental illness, I know this because I have a friend who had a cousin who thought he was Rodney Dangerfield, because he couldn't get any respect.

I will say that you have reminded everyone that they should not mock anyone or be unkind and they should not kill or be harmful in any manner, and that they should be humble, and it is of interest that you claim to be a Jew, of literal descent of David who was of the tribe of Judah, which is also a requirement. But why you have not also pushed for equity, and imparting of land by a covenant and a deed as required of Jubilee and the United Order is offsetting as that is the law given by Moses and Joshua 1:6 and D&C 42 and 70 as the very foundation of your church. But seem to have no knowledge of this law and foundation required of your true church.

And as to why if you know the people of this house are of Ephraim and their invited guests, why you do not address them accordingly as you have in the book of Hosea, saying you would hide your face from them, or as in the book of Micah, there would be "no" answer from you for the perversion of equity done by them, or as written in Jeremiah 23, if they had stood in your counsel they would have turned the people to keep the law of equality.

I have searched the words of the Lord Jesus Christ and you seem to only preach a portion and not the fullness of Tzedakah and United Order, the feast of fat things well prepared, and the feast of tabernacles and it's intent of distribution to all of the consecrated tithes and offerings given to the priests of Levi.

So as to the OP, the Antichrist and his power is to lead the people away from equality of land and homes, and much of the world today war over this very thing of seeing all have homes and land in peace and goodwill which is required of the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

And if you are of direct descent of Solomon, you would know that it is thought that king Solomon's son was supposed to have been given the ark of the covenant and other treasures like the Book of Enoch the Prophet, which he carried with him to Ethiopia, where the apostle Matthew was slain around 60AD and where the Scottish explorer James Bruce discoved this ancient text of The Book of Enoch the Prophet in 1773 which Joseph Smith testified in D&C 107:57, would soon be out, and it did get translated and put into English in 1883 out of London.

So why you have not mentioned this Book of Enoch nor your requirement of none being exempt from this law, of being equal in your temporal things, and this not grudgingly, for homes and land, food and raiment, or they will be as salt without savor, good for nothing but to be cast out as said by Jesus Christ of the very eternal Father in heaven in 3rd Nephi chapter 16:10-20, leads one to wonder if you even know of the things you have taught Enoch, and Moses, and Melchizedek, Isaiah, Micah, Jeremiah, Joel, and all the other prophets of the house of Joseph in the books written and of all things common among them taught by you to the tribes of Judah and Joseph, that be put into one book or stick, that these houses be confounded no more, on how to treat the poor, giving them land and home, food and raiment, first and foremost before any "residue" yes "residue", and again one more time for perfect clarity "residue" is used for the building of temples, or purchase of lands or other investments for the benefit of the members of your true church.

Read and understand the law given from the Father to Jesus Christ to give to us, since the days of Adam and Enoch, till the present day and see why you are not this "one" LORD and savior of the world Jesus Christ, or if your eyes have been closed and ears, because you have your mission to fullfill the words of Christ in Matthew 24, then I understand the time is here, and even at the doors.♡

Bee Prepared wrote:Dear Emmanuel, dear sweet Emmanuel, dear kind Emmanuel, you are not who you say. I say this in all sincerity, go back to the home and take your meds, everything will be alright. Delusions are common in mental illness, I know this because I have a friend who had a cousin who thought he was Rodney Dangerfield, because he couldn't get any respect.

I know how he feels, I can't get no satisfaction.

Robert Sinclair wrote:I will say that you have reminded everyone that they should not mock anyone or be unkind and they should not kill or be harmful in any manner, and that they should be humble, and it is of interest that you claim to be a Jew, of literal descent of David who was of the tribe of Judah, which is also a requirement. But why you have not also pushed for equity, and imparting of land by a covenant and a deed as required of Jubilee and the United Order is offsetting as that is the law given by Moses and Joshua 1:6 and D&C 42 and 70 as the very foundation of your church. But seem to have no knowledge of this law and foundation required of your true church.

And as to why if you know the people of this house are of Ephraim and their invited guests, why you do not address them accordingly as you have in the book of Hosea, saying you would hide your face from them, or as in the book of Micah, there would be "no" answer from you for the perversion of equity done by them, or as written in Jeremiah 23, if they had stood in your counsel they would have turned the people to keep the law of equality.

I have searched the words of the Lord Jesus Christ and you seem to only preach a portion and not the fullness of Tzedakah and United Order, the feast of fat things well prepared, and the feast of tabernacles and it's intent of distribution to all of the consecrated tithes and offerings given to the priests of Levi.

So as to the OP, the Antichrist and his power is to lead the people away from equality of land and homes, and much of the world today war over this very thing of seeing all have homes and land in peace and goodwill which is required of the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

And if you are of direct descent of Solomon, you would know that it is thought that king Solomon's son was supposed to have been given the ark of the covenant and other treasures like the Book of Enoch the Prophet, which he carried with him to Ethiopia, where the apostle Matthew was slain around 60AD and where the Scottish explorer James Bruce discoved this ancient text of The Book of Enoch the Prophet in 1773 which Joseph Smith testified in D&C 107:57, would soon be out, and it did get translated and put into English in 1883 out of London.

So why you have not mentioned this Book of Enoch nor your requirement of none being exempt from this law, of being equal in your temporal things, and this not grudgingly, for homes and land, food and raiment, or they will be as salt without savor, good for nothing but to be cast out as said by Jesus Christ of the very eternal Father in heaven in 3rd Nephi chapter 16:10-20, leads one to wonder if you even know of the things you have taught Enoch, and Moses, and Melchizedek, Isaiah, Micah, Jeremiah, Joel, and all the other prophets of the house of Joseph in the books written and of all things common among them taught by you to the tribes of Judah and Joseph, that be put into one book or stick, that these houses be confounded no more, on how to treat the poor, giving them land and home, food and raiment, first and foremost before any "residue" yes "residue", and again one more time for perfect clarity "residue" is used for the building of temples, or purchase of lands or other investments for the benefit of the members of your true church.

Read and understand the law given from the Father to Jesus Christ to give to us, since the days of Adam and Enoch, till the present day and see why you are not this "one" LORD and savior of the world Jesus Christ, or if your eyes have been closed and ears, because you have your mission to fullfill the words of Christ in Matthew 24, then I understand the time is here, and even at the doors.♡

I live the law you seek to follow now, and have taught it to others but few are ready for such higher ways, know that the rich will be held to account for having to much while the poor struggled and starved. You are not wrong in your call to return to the way of the City of Enoch, for Zion must needs be as such and if the saints had of all followed that example of Enoch, Behold they would be taken up to the higher place were Enoch and his people dwell. It is best to not judge those who can not follow the higher laws, you can preach such things but say not the judgements of others that the leadership is going to enter destruction for they will not and will be aided to correct things, they have done much good and charity that the members are not aware off.

Why did you show Enoch that the last shephereds would destroy themselves and their blind sheep, and be judged and found guilty and both thrust into the fiery abyss, and why say the "if" commanded of the very eternal Father in heaven, that "if" they do not return to keep the fullness they will be as salt without savor, good for nothing, but to be cast out. Why say "All is well" with these leaders when so many times you testify that it is not? Remember your own words that your words will be the same and change not. ♡

I do like that they will be aided to correct things, and that is why I do as Jesus Christ says in the Books of Isaiah and Joel, to weep and howl and sound the alarm, that they might be aided to give ear, and return to keep the commandments which Jesus Christ has given.

With the Day of Atonement on the 22nd of September the same September 22 Moroni showed the plates to Joseph Smith, to return each September 22, to view the plates and receive instruction 4 more times on September 22, before he was given to take them for translation, and the super harvest blood red moon coming September 27th for Salt Lake, and 28th if in Israel, which the likes of which during the High Holy Days of the feast of tabernacles, have never been witnessed before nor ever will be again, and the year of the 50th Jubilee about to begin, I would think you would know more of all these things and witness of such.♡

Christ knoweth all things, our complete names, where we live, our thoughts, our hopes and to what level our faith and knowledge are. He would also know who has there calling and election.

D&C 38
1 Thus saith the Lord your God, even Jesus Christ, the Great I Am, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the same which looked upon the wide expanse of eternity, and all the seraphic hosts of heaven, before the world was made;
2 The same which knoweth all things, for all things are present before mine eyes;
3 I am the same which spake, and the world was made, and all things came by me.
4 I am the same which have taken the Zion of Enoch into mine own bosom; and verily, I say, even as many as have believed in my name, for I am Christ, and in mine own name, by the virtue of the blood which I have spilt, have I pleaded before the Father for them.
5 But behold, the residue of the wicked have I kept in chains of darkness until the judgment of the great day, which shall come at the end of the earth;
6 And even so will I cause the wicked to be kept, that will not hear my voice but harden their hearts, and wo, wo, wo, is their doom.
7 But behold, verily, verily, I say unto you that mine eyes are upon you. I am in your midst and ye cannot see me;
8 But the day soon cometh that ye shall see me, and know that I am; for the veil of darkness shall soon be rent, and he that is not purified shall not abide the day.
9 Wherefore, gird up your loins and be prepared. Behold, the kingdom is yours, and the enemy shall not overcome.
10 Verily I say unto you, ye are clean, but not all; and there is none else with whom I am well pleased;
11 For all flesh is corrupted before me; and the powers of darkness prevail upon the earth, among the children of men, in the presence of all the hosts of heaven—
12 Which causeth silence to reign, and all eternity is pained, and the angels are waiting the great command to reap down the earth, to gather the tares that they may be burned; and, behold, the enemy is combined.
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Then there is Abaddon. There is no Abaddon above Satan. If anyone, it is Satan, himself. I base this on what we read here. Satan and his angels will be cast into the bottomless pit, He having the key to it. Then Cain will rule over Satan because Cain has a body.

Apollyon
Destroyer, a Greek translation of the Hebrew word Abaddon, or “Destruction”; in Rev. 9:11 it is the name of the Angel of the Abyss (bottomless pit) made familiar to English readers by Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress.

@all - Regardless of who Emmanuel is - even Moses was commanded to not do railing for railing - as we attack/judge/criticize/rail/be disrespectful to REGARDLESS of who the person is, we stand in judgement.

If Emmanuel believes he is X or X it doesn't matter - just be nice, respectful and carry on.

What I have learned from him is
1. how dangerous judging others really is (i.e. for what you judge you will be judged) that's very scary and has hit me hard.
2. There's something about Saturn I'd like to learn more about - strange hexagon on the top of Saturn
3. Fiery darts are likely very literal
4. Garments are a spiritual shield against curses/evil attacks
5. Christ may be our Father (I'm still chewing on this one)
6. Great example of patience against an onslaught of railings
7. A possible explanation of Abbadon
8. Deeper interest in CERN
9. How incredibly blessed we are to have been Saved from OuterDarkness - wow, when we see that we're going to weep with gratitude
10. Yes, I think some of the leaders may have given their opinions prematurely, may have spoken out of place (they are fallible as was Peter), Isiah comments that the watchmen have failed (in a sense - can't remember the entire scripture)

BRIAN - please don't ban Emmanuel, who cares what he thinks he is (I mean no disrespect Emmanuel)
Everyone else - just be kind, no need to argue, remember "no railing against railing" that's how the evil one creeps in.

@Emmanuel - I respectfully ask the following - please give as clear/non-cryptic reply if you would (just looking for your perspective/thoughts):
1. Are you stating that you are Jesus the Christ/Jehovah or are you trying to be one like him like we all should be?
2. Any insights into the symbology of Revelation that you can share? i.e. what are the locusts, the smoke, the number of the beast, etc.
3. What are your thoughts about the end time servant as mentioned in Isiah? Please elaborate on this as it's a very interesting discussion.
4. Can you elaborate more on Saturn, its history etc - some say Saturn used to orbit or be very near EArth (or was it venus?)
5. Do you go to the temple reguarly?
6 in the fascmicle in the book of abraham one of the symbols says it will be revealed in the temple/later time - what's this?
7. insights into dinosaurs

Thanks looking forward to your thoughts

There are so many mysteries about our universe that we don't grasp at the present time.

For example, from what I understand, the concept of linear time on earth was created for man so he could progress through his experience on earth in a manner that he could grasp with his limited degree of understanding. Time is actually circular and dimensional, not linear, kind of like eternity.

If this hypothesis of circular time and dimensions is correct, it could mean that one could visit other times and dimensions, spend a significant amount of time there and then return to their original time and dimension whenever they wanted to. It would seem to others like you were only gone a day or two but you knew you had been gone for years.

When some people have near death experiences they will say that they were only dead a few minutes in earth time, but they seemed to have spent days in the spirit world.

Saturn is nowhere near the earth, in terms of order it is after Mars and Jupiter.
Mercury and Venus are before earth.