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Emmanuel,

I apologize if my post was ambiguous. I was certainly not accusing you of being Lucifer, I was responding to your description of the Antichrist.

Regards,

George Clay

gclayjr wrote:Emmanuel,

I apologize if my post was ambiguous. I was certainly not accusing you of being Lucifer, I was responding to your description of the Antichrist.

Regards,

George Clay

That is ok, I had to give warning knowing what im involved with who I am will become clear to some sooner than others. People should never make judgements as it can actually put souls at risk, but many who are unwise make judgements as you have seen upon this forum. People don't realise that even though it is a forum it still apply's to eternal law. Lucifer will be involved but behind the scenes he is however not the direct Son of Abaddon, he is also subject to the Antichrist, he is a adopted Son but not the One who will hold the power of Abaddon directly. Alot souls during that time will be taken into hades, hades is were Lucifer rules with some others he is one the heads of the Dragon.

I am in direct contact with the Father, what I speak is coming soon people mocking are giving direct power to the adversary to act upon them in coming years, I have warned people to be humble and not mock for a good reason, I have greater understanding of eternal laws. When greater things are revealed accountability is risen and so it is that higher revelations are a double edged sword. The wise shall never make a judgement never mock another soul in life, they will understanding in spirit they will be held to account. Saying this those disrupting the flow of this thread I ask that you do not this thread is important and many reading it because of having such revelation before hand shall be better prepared for the times coming.

The AntiChrist is already well at work.

If you don't like what is being said by user "Emannuel", skip this thread and move on to something else.

Emmanuel I have to say you are kind of freaking me out. I agree with what you are saying but your delivery is odd. What is up?

Geoff wrote:Emmanuel, your tone and manner of teaching are very sanctimonious and authoritative (meaning you talk/type as if you are sounding like scripture). Who are you, what are you claiming, and where does your information come from please?

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Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the third iteration of BurningSword: Emmanuel.

And dude, normally I like reading your stuff but now you're kinda getting obnoxious. You're condemning every soldier who has ever served in defense of his country and every man who has defended his wife and children from murderous robbers."

Emmanuel wrote:I am in direct contact with the Father, what I speak is coming soon people mocking are giving direct power to the adversary to act upon them in coming years, I have warned people to be humble and not mock for a good reason, I have greater understanding of eternal laws. When greater things are revealed accountability is risen and so it is that higher revelations are a double edged sword. The wise shall never make a judgement never mock another soul in life, they will understanding in spirit they will be held to account. Saying this those disrupting the flow of this thread I ask that you do not this thread is important and many reading it because of having such revelation before hand shall be better prepared for the times coming.

Would this include the Julie Rowe critics who are trying to publicly discredit her message that may in fact be given from God?

rewcox wrote:The AntiChrist is already well at work.

He has been at work for generations, but he is going to come in flesh at a point in this generation. Not all will be alive for his coming as in wisdom God is going allow certain souls to pass away in the events that come in the opening. In some ways they are blessed to pass away in a better state than many shall be cometh the time of Abomination of Desolation. It is called the Abomination of Desolation because the acts of that time are a Abomination and bring Desolation to a soul, Desolation representation of the condemnation the destruction of a soul the point of no return. This is known also as receiving the mark of the beast.

mattj wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:I am in direct contact with the Father, what I speak is coming soon people mocking are giving direct power to the adversary to act upon them in coming years, I have warned people to be humble and not mock for a good reason, I have greater understanding of eternal laws. When greater things are revealed accountability is risen and so it is that higher revelations are a double edged sword. The wise shall never make a judgement never mock another soul in life, they will understanding in spirit they will be held to account. Saying this those disrupting the flow of this thread I ask that you do not this thread is important and many reading it because of having such revelation before hand shall be better prepared for the times coming.

Would this include the Julie Rowe critics who are trying to publicly discredit her message that may in fact be given from God?

I do not know this person Julie Rowe, have not read her works. Therefore I can not comment on her works.

mattj wrote:Emmanuel I have to say you are kind of freaking me out. I agree with what you are saying but your delivery is odd. What is up?

What is it freaks you out? If it feels true in your heart then listen to that spirit prompting, know the times we are in are serious and few are prepared. Preparation is not so much about physical preparations though in wisdom having clean water sealed and food storage long lasting is wise, having weapons is not wise as puts one at risk of taking the life of the living. The best preparation is the oil of words of Christ and one learning to tap into the power of faith, miracles can come by true faith and people will need such in the time of darkness to come. It is not all darkness God will assign powerful prophets to bring to repentance the nations of those who can still be saved they will speak by the power and authority of Jesus Christ; the chastisement of the two witnesses the curses are for sake of peoples souls in the final judgement people will understand this but during the time of tribulation people will be angry from what comes. God wrath has always been with intention to save souls from condemnation and it is suffered to be so to break down pride, to give the soul its best chance of salvation. Souls that do not need go through the Wrath will not go through it, not all will part take of such a time, some are to be spared for they were humble and meek even some are to be sealed and protected who were righteous enough.

In time all will be resurrected and enjoy the wonders and pleasure of the higher dimensions, the Millennial will be a time of preparation for those who will enter the kingdom of Heaven. There shall be no more sin, sickness or death or any evil thing all things will be more glorified and many things of this world such as germs, viruses, pathogens as such will be no more, nor shall pest insects exist in such a dimension only the true creations of God in their perfect and glorified forms and the animals of that time shall be calm and at peace and shall not harm any man, women or child. All things are remade and perfected in preparation for the final ascension into the Kingdom of God, but before the final ascension that final judgement and allotment of glory for each soul by their works, will come a final temptation and their will be some who do fall away in that time also. But those who are of the first resurrection will have no risk of the Second death and so shall they endure and not fall away when the pit is again opened.

You seem quite knowledgable. I just can't quite put my finger on what I am feeling.

I haven't been to this forum for a week or so. I just couldn't take the contention. I am no longer posting or visiting the boards that were causing bad feelings. I am very interested in the subject you are presenting though. Post more! Very interesting.

Catherine wrote:You seem quite knowledgable. I just can't quite put my finger on what I am feeling.

You knew me as did many before you were born, when a great Darkness is coming it is necessary a great Light comes to prepare the world and it dimensions. The night will come and it will become it darkest before the dawn, but know your hope is that the Sun will rise in the morning.

This guy is claiming to be Christ people, really?

Emmanuel wrote:

mattj wrote:Emmanuel I have to say you are kind of freaking me out. I agree with what you are saying but your delivery is odd. What is up?

What is it freaks you out? If it feels true in your heart then listen to that spirit prompting, know the times we are in are serious and few are prepared. Preparation is not so much about physical preparations though in wisdom having clean water sealed and food storage long lasting is wise, having weapons is not wise as puts one at risk of taking the life of the living. The best preparation is the oil of words of Christ and one learning to tap into the power of faith, miracles can come by true faith and people will need such in the time of darkness to come. It is not all darkness God will assign powerful prophets to bring to repentance the nations of those who can still be saved they will speak by the power and authority of Jesus Christ; the chastisement of the two witnesses the curses are for sake of peoples souls in the final judgement people will understand this but during the time of tribulation people will be angry from what comes. God wrath has always been with intention to save souls from condemnation and it is suffered to be so to break down pride, to give the soul its best chance of salvation. Souls that do not need go through the Wrath will not go through it, not all will part take of such a time, some are to be spared for they were humble and meek even some are to be sealed and protected who were righteous enough.

In time all will be resurrected and enjoy the wonders and pleasure of the higher dimensions, the Millennial will be a time of preparation for those who will enter the kingdom of Heaven. There shall be no more sin, sickness or death or any evil thing all things will be more glorified and many things of this world such as germs, viruses, pathogens as such will be no more, nor shall pest insects exist in such a dimension only the true creations of God in their perfect and glorified forms and the animals of that time shall be calm and at peace and shall not harm any man, women or child. All things are remade and perfected in preparation for the final ascension into the Kingdom of God, but before the final ascension that final judgement and allotment of glory for each soul by their works, will come a final temptation and their will be some who do fall away in that time also. But those who are of the first resurrection will have no risk of the Second death and so shall they endure and not fall away when the pit is again opened.

Ok. I see you are role playing. You are speaking as if you are the son of God.

idahommie wrote:This guy is claiming to be Christ people, really?

Feels kind of inappropriate huh!

mattj wrote:

idahommie wrote:This guy is claiming to be Christ people, really?[/quote



Feels kind of inappropriate huh!

This guy has been booted off LDSFF at least 2 other times for his claims to be Jesus Christ. just in the past few months.

mattj wrote:

Emmanuel wrote:

mattj wrote:Emmanuel I have to say you are kind of freaking me out. I agree with what you are saying but your delivery is odd. What is up?

What is it freaks you out? If it feels true in your heart then listen to that spirit prompting, know the times we are in are serious and few are prepared. Preparation is not so much about physical preparations though in wisdom having clean water sealed and food storage long lasting is wise, having weapons is not wise as puts one at risk of taking the life of the living. The best preparation is the oil of words of Christ and one learning to tap into the power of faith, miracles can come by true faith and people will need such in the time of darkness to come. It is not all darkness God will assign powerful prophets to bring to repentance the nations of those who can still be saved they will speak by the power and authority of Jesus Christ; the chastisement of the two witnesses the curses are for sake of peoples souls in the final judgement people will understand this but during the time of tribulation people will be angry from what comes. God wrath has always been with intention to save souls from condemnation and it is suffered to be so to break down pride, to give the soul its best chance of salvation. Souls that do not need go through the Wrath will not go through it, not all will part take of such a time, some are to be spared for they were humble and meek even some are to be sealed and protected who were righteous enough.

In time all will be resurrected and enjoy the wonders and pleasure of the higher dimensions, the Millennial will be a time of preparation for those who will enter the kingdom of Heaven. There shall be no more sin, sickness or death or any evil thing all things will be more glorified and many things of this world such as germs, viruses, pathogens as such will be no more, nor shall pest insects exist in such a dimension only the true creations of God in their perfect and glorified forms and the animals of that time shall be calm and at peace and shall not harm any man, women or child. All things are remade and perfected in preparation for the final ascension into the Kingdom of God, but before the final ascension that final judgement and allotment of glory for each soul by their works, will come a final temptation and their will be some who do fall away in that time also. But those who are of the first resurrection will have no risk of the Second death and so shall they endure and not fall away when the pit is again opened.

Ok. I see you are role playing. You are speaking as if you are the son of God.

Why are people so concerned with who I am, what I share now is what important discern the message not the messenger. If I say who I am and people reject and I speak the truth it gives my adversary power to act upon them. Therefore indirectly has it been said what more need be revealed, pray about it if seek more answers but do so without wavering in the winds, and in humility as a little child. Can a cup which is filled in unclean waters be filled in clean waters, no it must first be emptied and washed clean that it may then receive clean waters.

It is written God works in mysterious ways, does mankind decide how God works and knows all mystery's. The wise shall be humble and meek and make no judgements specially against one who speaks in authority as a Son of God as you have said. Let not the error of the Pharisees repeat itself, has many of saints become as they lacking spiritual discernment but reading of scripture.

And I came back for this? I was right the first time. See Ya!

Catherine wrote:And I came back for this? I was right the first time. See Ya!

It is written 23If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. 24And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given. 25For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.

So it is the adversary taketh away what is given in spirit that they know not what it is that was felt to begin with. And judgement overtaketh and spirit of error blinds them from seeing for they have measured and it is measured back unto them.

mattj wrote:

idahommie wrote:This guy is claiming to be Christ people, really?

Feels kind of inappropriate huh!

And I got in trouble for mocking him... I mean I understand, where do you draw the line? Can't pick favourites like that.
Not arguing that, but, I was already damned to hell for posting internet memes so...it's all down hill from here :))

I tell you now the truth, Abaddon is a entity of great power in his own state he could be called the AntiGod, the very supreme being of Evil in which all other devils are subject unto. He is without form and works through his Spirit inside those whom he possesses, the spirits known as legion are his and he works through them as a King.

Just curious, why isn't there more in the scriptures regarding Abaddon, especially if he/it/they played such an important role in the plan of salvation?

Abaddon is the one who tempted Lucifer and many others to fall from higher spirit spheres of pre-mortal existence. In time of Antichrist he will work directly through his Begotten Son, just as the Father of Jesus was in his Son also in Spirit connected. Know this entity should not be underestimated it is far beyond mankind even mankind cant obtain what he is. He has consumed and destroyed countless souls worlds without number, this is the real truth and battle of good and evil and is what is at stake, their is a point a soul can go it is lost forever. Mankind truly need help and only through Jesus Christ can they be saved from Abaddon.

Lucifer's fall, at least in my reading of the scriptures, was his own darn fault. As much as it's interesting to think there is a mirror of the Heavenly Father/Christ relationship on the other side of the line, I think the scriptures amply demonstrate that evil is about singularity.

The D&C speaks of the Sons of Perdition being "cast into their own place". Contrast that with the picture we get of Celestial glory, that the same sort of social structure (i.e. families and friendships) that exists here will also be there. In other words, the Gospel is really about establishing and nurturing eternal relationships; between us and God, between each other in various forms, and through the sealing ordinances. United we stand, divided we fall.

The social structure among the darker elements is, by very nature, transitory, as all contracts/covenants/obligations/etc are of no force in the next life without the sealing power. In my view pride reigns supreme there (meaning among those who willfully reject God after knowing full well who He is), and as such nobody can stand anyone else for very long. Pride is hatred, especially hatred of God's way of doing things, and that includes hatred of all that is good in human (and higher) relationships, even the concept of "relationship" itself.

Lucifer's pride did him in. And that to me is a warning, for it shows that the anti-Christ within each of us is of far greater concern than any external threat. I think Elijah was generally correct when he stated that those that be with us are far greater in number.

BrianM wrote:If you don't like what is being said by user "Emannuel", skip this thread and move on to something else.

Thanks, Brian.

BTH&T wrote:

mattj wrote:

idahommie wrote:This guy is claiming to be Christ people, really?[/quote



Feels kind of inappropriate huh!

This guy has been booted off LDSFF at least 2 other times for his claims to be Jesus Christ. just in the past few months.

If he were Christ he would know the given and last name of every single person on this forum. For Christ says,

John 10:27
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

He would know each and every person's thoughts and the condition of our hearts.
He would be able to write without any typos or spelling issues, and would use correct punctuation.

Is he being defended now, having been banned twice previously?

As far as Abaddon is concerned my studies on this reveals that he could be Satan, himself. We also know that Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit. He also has the key to the pit.


Revelation 9:2
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

Revelation 9:1
1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

Revelation 9:11
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Revelation 11:7
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

Revelation 20:1
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

Revelation 20:3
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Revelation 17:8
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Or Abaddon could be one of Satan's high cronies. After all, all the spirits that were cast out of the presence of God will be with Lucifer/Satan anyway.