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Stahura wrote:What if this person is here only to test us? To see how we treat others that disagree with us or teach something we don't want to hear? What if God has a purpose in this?
If we can run into an angel on the road and not know it, what if we run into an "angel" online? I've heard stories of people who gave a homeless person money and food, and later realized it was an angel. Is it not possible that this be a situation like that? God works in mysterious ways.
If you discerned for yourself that it's all false and evil, go on your way with your answer and pray that others will see the light also. Mocking, judging, and throwing scripture quotes at people does nothing.
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2. Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

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And last of all, this is my testimony. He lives.

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Stahura wrote:@Freedomforall None of that is relevant, because all I said was that we shouldn't judge, mock and condemn. Quoting scripture that I agree with and understand is a waste of time. None of those scriptures tells you to mock, condemn, and judge someone who is a false prophet. If anything, we are told to welcome those who have made mistakes and gone apostate with open arms and nurture them. The scriptures are as relevant as the day is long. And if you can't or refuse to see the point then fine. This doesn't make your issue any more valid. Sounds like you lean toward this guy being Jesus. False doctrine doesn't go well with investigators lurking in on the form, does it. I mean, this is a world wide site, not a closed in class room. And for the record I haven't mocked, or condemned him, I merely do not believe he is who he claims. Show me in instance of my mocking.

I know that some have the gift to discern, but most don't. Just like We are told to pray about any Revelation that even a Prophet has, we can't just depend on You because you say that you discerned through The Spirit that he's a false prophet. True, yet I don't have to follow the crowd that does, nor do I have to believe every word, this is because of discernment. Christ's sheep know his voice and follow him. False doctrine in any form can cause bad repercussions. Had I not read the Book of Mormon over twenty times, and read many, many parts of it several times more, maybe I would. Why would that be?

Not only do these people judge, mock, and condemn this person named "Emmanuel" These people are also judging mocking and condemning anybody else who doesn't agree completely with them. That's a slippery slope. I have no control over other people's values. I try to stick to the word so God can do my talking for me. Smallfarm did say that he agrees with my approach, and I appreciated that. It is not easy by any stretch because the spirit has to place in my mind the scriptures used for this purpose. I do my best.

You don't even know me and it looks like you just told me that I'm hard hearted and that I don't read the scriptures, or that I don't understand them if i do read them. I work out my own Salvation with fear and trembling, and we should all do the same. I look at the beam in my own eye, or at least I try to. My beam smacks me on the side of the head at times, however, I'm not too fond of being clumped together with those who mock and scoff, but even Emmanuel does this. That ought to tell you something. I see him reject the very scriptures I provide with the emphasis I do not understand them. Apparently he doesn't know the workings of the spirit well enough to know that it is the role of the Spirit to teach truth from error. So which one should I believe first? Bear in mind that it is the Holy Ghost that bears witness of Christ. And Emmanuel doesn't fit the description, for I feel no intense light, only that which a true messenger would exhibit.
Thanks for your concern, and God bless you.

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I never stated my beliefs. Great response,I agree with everything. :)

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Now returning to the OP....
So do you think this project scientists will be performing with CERN has anything to do with the second coming or the anti Christ ? I don't know to much about that project.

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Stahura wrote:What if this person is here only to test us? To see how we treat others that disagree with us or teach something we don't want to hear? What if God has a purpose in this?
If we can run into an angel on the road and not know it, what if we run into an "angel" online? I've heard stories of people who gave a homeless person money and food, and later realized it was an angel. Is it not possible that this be a situation like that? God works in mysterious ways.
If you discerned for yourself that it's all false and evil, go on your way with your answer and pray that others will see the light also. Mocking, judging, and throwing scripture quotes at people does nothing.
Really, try telling Jesus that when he cast Satan away during His fast, by quoting scriptures to Satan. He said: It is written. It's in the book!

Luke 4:8
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Matthew 4:7
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Why didn't Jesus just say, get out of here ,Satan, I'm Jesus Christ, the Son of God, so you better respect that?

Find other instances here:
https://www.lds.org/scriptures/search?l ... +shalt+not" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So please do not claim it is of no use and does nothing. Quite to the contrary.

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Army Of Truth wrote:
Stahura wrote:What if this person is here only to test us? To see how we treat others that disagree with us or teach something we don't want to hear? What if God has a purpose in this?
If we can run into an angel on the road and not know it, what if we run into an "angel" online? I've heard stories of people who gave a homeless person money and food, and later realized it was an angel. Is it not possible that this be a situation like that? God works in mysterious ways.
If you discerned for yourself that it's all false and evil, go on your way with your answer and pray that others will see the light also. Mocking, judging, and throwing scripture quotes at people does nothing.
Good point! :ymapplause: :ymapplause:

Hebrews 13:1 & 2
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2. Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Did they communicate over the internet, on a forum so he couldn't be seen?

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The Antichrist shall arise from the waters... After the sixth seal is opened the world is not the same and all things will be different people will see things in the reign of Antichrist that no man has seen before, and deceptions will play out and things seem as one enemy fighting another but the Antichrist is behind it all, therefore know when he looketh as a hero who comes to help mankind he is behind the enemy that man fears who is his own army's that he controls. But he shall seek to look as a Saviour to mankind to be a hero in their eyes when he comes and shall defeat a threat to mankind and be hailed a hero and worshipped by mankind and then in time their King and God. There will be many Sons of perdition in that time deceiving the world even so possessed people all subject to the Antichrist. If I was to reveal the more supernatural of things to come behold many would say this man be insane and laugh and mock greater than they have done so now. Therefore I will not reveal such things at this time but will say this their shall be sights seen that mankind has not imagined possible, and things found to exist that mankind thought but imagination.

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Emmanuel wrote:The Antichrist shall arise from the waters... After the sixth seal is opened the world is not the same and all things will be different people will see things in the reign of Antichrist that no man has seen before, and deceptions will play out and things seem as one enemy fighting another but the Antichrist is behind it all, therefore know when he looketh as a hero who comes to help mankind he is behind the enemy that man fears who is his own army's that he controls. But he shall seek to look as a Saviour to mankind to be a hero in their eyes when he comes and shall defeat a threat to mankind and be hailed a hero and worshipped by mankind and then in time their King and God. There will be many Sons of perdition in that time deceiving the world even so possessed people all subject to the Antichrist. If I was to reveal the more supernatural of things to come behold many would say this man be insane and laugh and mock greater than they have done so now. Therefore I will not reveal such things at this time but will say this their shall be sights seen that mankind has not imagined possible, and things found to exist that mankind thought but imagination.
Thank you for telling us these things.
Tell us, has Jesus Christ come unto us in the flesh?

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freedomforall wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:The Antichrist shall arise from the waters... After the sixth seal is opened the world is not the same and all things will be different people will see things in the reign of Antichrist that no man has seen before, and deceptions will play out and things seem as one enemy fighting another but the Antichrist is behind it all, therefore know when he looketh as a hero who comes to help mankind he is behind the enemy that man fears who is his own army's that he controls. But he shall seek to look as a Saviour to mankind to be a hero in their eyes when he comes and shall defeat a threat to mankind and be hailed a hero and worshipped by mankind and then in time their King and God. There will be many Sons of perdition in that time deceiving the world even so possessed people all subject to the Antichrist. If I was to reveal the more supernatural of things to come behold many would say this man be insane and laugh and mock greater than they have done so now. Therefore I will not reveal such things at this time but will say this their shall be sights seen that mankind has not imagined possible, and things found to exist that mankind thought but imagination.
Thank you for telling us these things.
Tell us, has Jesus Christ come unto us in the flesh?
I am indeed here but must soon leave and appear to Mary in the past that the circle is complete, upon leaving the sixth seal is fulfilled. This mystery perhaps it was not time to reveal it but in the time of resurrection and judgement when all things are revealed all shall know for a time I was a Son of man hidden by the Father amongst them fulfilling a important mystery which aloud the ending to come. May all repent for I offer forgiveness still and am not here to condemn the lost but save them, take comfort knowing that God would even take it upon himself the burdens of mortality to defeat it on mankind's behalf that they too may be given immortality in time.

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freedomforall wrote:Tell us, has Jesus Christ come unto us in the flesh?
Emmanuel wrote:I am indeed here but must soon leave and appear to Mary in the past that the circle is complete, upon leaving the sixth seal is fulfilled. This mystery perhaps it was not time to reveal it but in the time of resurrection and judgement when all things are revealed all shall know for a time I was a Son of man hidden by the Father amongst them fulfilling a important mystery which aloud the ending to come. May all repent for I offer forgiveness still and am not here to condemn the lost but save them, take comfort knowing that God would even take it upon himself the burdens of mortality to defeat it on mankind's behalf that they too may be given immortality in time.
Please be more concise. A yes or no would be helpful. Your response does not provide an answer as to if Christ were already here in the flesh long ago.

Has Jesus Christ come unto us in the flesh back in 1AD for the space of 33 years?

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Stahura wrote:
iWriteStuff wrote: You HAVE to discern/judge/choose, at least as regards Emmanuel's claims. To be wishy-washy or fail to exercise your agency to discern truth leaves you open to deception/fraud/condemnation. To deny the Savior is to place your salvation in jeopardy. At the same time, to choose to be deceived or waive your right to know for certain is just as dangerous.
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Discerning for yourself whether or not He is your Savior doesn't mean you need to judge, mock and condemn this person. Deal with the beam in your own eye.
Man I got a whole lumber store in my eye and I'd be the first to tell you. That being said, I've not mocked nor condemned but have spoken the truth.

Honestly your defense of a false Christ has me wondering a bit about your vision as well.

I'll agree one can speak by the Spirit and thus God speaks through him. But again, that's VERY different than claiming that you are God. And, why do you defend someone who falsely claims to be Christ?

If I didn't know better, I'd say this whole forum is being trolled by deceivers attempting to derail conversation about actual gospel topics. What next? Are the Three Lamanites going to open their own accounts?

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Who are the Three Lamanites? I haven't heard of them.....

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Lizzy60 wrote:Who are the Three Lamanites? I haven't heard of them.....
I'm pretty sure iWroteStuff the Jacobite was one of them.

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@iwritestuff

I'm not defending a false christ, I'm defending human beings in general. There's no excuse to judge and condemn and name call. I never said anything directly concerning the user named Emmanuel.
This thread is just a bunch of people pointing fingers. It's stupid. I come here to seek Jesus and learn his Gospel. Done with this thread.

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iWriteStuff,

It wasn't too long ago that you got on Emmanuel's case telling him he was hijacking the thread about guns. He left politely after you asked him to. Why are you hijacking his thread here?

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Matchmaker wrote:iWriteStuff,

It wasn't too long ago that you got on Emmanuel's case telling him he was hijacking the thread about guns. He left politely after you asked him to. Why are you hijacking his thread here?
Honestly I was late to the party. I thought the first few posts were interesting and then his literary style provoked a six page tirade about him claiming to be Christ. I didn't pop in till page 6, looooong after it had been hijacked and he went off message calling everyone vipers and Pharisees, etc. I gave my opinion regarding the claim and hoped to be done with it but others, like yourself, engaged the matter further. Was I supposed to ignore your response/condemnation?

I guess the answer is maybe I should have.

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iWriteStuff wrote:
Lizzy60 wrote:Who are the Three Lamanites? I haven't heard of them.....
I'm pretty sure iWroteStuff the Jacobite was one of them.
I'm one of them, the third one no one ever remembers the name of, it's like the three tenors.

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Sirocco wrote:Very same, not sure why they keep letting him come back and people aren't allowed to be crass or post memes, I mean you ban someone twice... Why are they allowed to come back, baffles the mind.
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BrianM wrote:
Sirocco wrote:Very same, not sure why they keep letting him come back and people aren't allowed to be crass or post memes, I mean you ban someone twice... Why are they allowed to come back, baffles the mind.
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Wow this thread is awesome!

God with us,

I see Jesus in everyone, how about you? It is very apparent you see him in yourself and that is awesome thank you for sharing what you have found. If you find him equally in all human beings you will perhaps begin to understand God to an even greater degree. If you are a Christ fully and would condemn everyone on here for not believing in you when you are writing words on the Internet with questionable grammar then you have regressed since your last life. What happened man? You have a friend here to talk to when you begin to see that your prophecies remain unfulfilled as you think they will happen. I pray you will be ok and come to know what all of the things you have received truly mean. Studying Gnosticism might be a good place to start. Peace

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Emmanuel wrote:I am indeed here but must soon leave and appear to Mary in the past that the circle is complete, upon leaving the sixth seal is fulfilled. This mystery perhaps it was not time to reveal it but in the time of resurrection and judgement when all things are revealed all shall know for a time I was a Son of man hidden by the Father amongst them fulfilling a important mystery which aloud the ending to come. May all repent for I offer forgiveness still and am not here to condemn the lost but save them, take comfort knowing that God would even take it upon himself the burdens of mortality to defeat it on mankind's behalf that they too may be given immortality in time.
Why choose LDSFF? Are there also other platforms and means you are speaking to others?

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freedomforall wrote:
freedomforall wrote:Tell us, has Jesus Christ come unto us in the flesh?
Emmanuel wrote:I am indeed here but must soon leave and appear to Mary in the past that the circle is complete, upon leaving the sixth seal is fulfilled. This mystery perhaps it was not time to reveal it but in the time of resurrection and judgement when all things are revealed all shall know for a time I was a Son of man hidden by the Father amongst them fulfilling a important mystery which aloud the ending to come. May all repent for I offer forgiveness still and am not here to condemn the lost but save them, take comfort knowing that God would even take it upon himself the burdens of mortality to defeat it on mankind's behalf that they too may be given immortality in time.
Please be more concise. A yes or no would be helpful. Your response does not provide an answer as to if Christ were already here in the flesh long ago.

Has Jesus Christ come unto us in the flesh back in 1AD for the space of 33 years?
Jesus Christ was in the flesh in the period you speak yes, and I will soon appear to Mary as it says in scripture as it is recorded in history after my crucifixion. I tell you I live and can no longer enter death and both Hell and Death was defeated and it is true I was forsaken and entered Hell and suffered greatly many things for sake of atonement, and now in last generation I have appeared a second time to put a end to all sins through overcoming mortality as a Son of man.

Test ye to see if I be the spirit of Antichrist and will not say Jesus Christ was upon earth and is the Almighty God, the very Only Begotten Son of the Father God, in same image identical as He and in same manner in all ways. Indeed I have come and am here to fulfil as it is written and even when I was Christ I knew of coming through mortality through the seed of Abraham.
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Jonesy1982 wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:I am indeed here but must soon leave and appear to Mary in the past that the circle is complete, upon leaving the sixth seal is fulfilled. This mystery perhaps it was not time to reveal it but in the time of resurrection and judgement when all things are revealed all shall know for a time I was a Son of man hidden by the Father amongst them fulfilling a important mystery which aloud the ending to come. May all repent for I offer forgiveness still and am not here to condemn the lost but save them, take comfort knowing that God would even take it upon himself the burdens of mortality to defeat it on mankind's behalf that they too may be given immortality in time.
Why choose LDSFF? Are there also other platforms and means you are speaking to others?
I have posted at times over the years trying to aid the children of men in various ways, this forum was felt in spirit to post and it platform allows free thought which is pleasing to me, as a soul should find God for themselves not believe only because told to believe for as such, such faith is easily shaken and they fall away. The end is much closer than people know and I have not revealed everything yet. I will refrain from revealing any-more mystery's now and keep things to the basics of the gospel as I can see people are not ready for such things, and will await the time of resurrection for such things. It is my hope some can find true repentance so they may be ready for what is indeed coming.
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The antichrist is not one person or one entity.

The antichrist is ALL evil currently in the world.

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