Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

[Emmanuel]

Adversary stirs them to judge and mock to scoff and ridicule because of who I am, it gives him power to take claim even if they were baptised into the church of LDS. But they are making the choice to act and it is coming from pride and indeed they are as Modern day Pharisees and Sadducee's. It brings me sorrow because I do know what it means for those souls and my posting upon this forum was never that intention, nevertheless the truth is a doubled edged sword and so it divides the field. When I open the sixth seal if they have not repented by that day, what they did know in truth is taken from them and they fall away into darkness it is the consequence to rejecting the Son of man when his grace has been offered. My Spirit can not remain inside those who have judged and mocked and scoffed and shamed me while I am in a incarnation of flesh, for my soul in this body is connected in Spirit to my Father which resides in Heaven and even I am with Him in the future as I was in the beginning. And so in the day the sun darkens many shall lose the Light of Christ that bears witness to the truth, for they never heeded it to begin with so even that which they did know is taken away. I can not continue to sustain mankind from the fall and must soon release the cup I hold then end shall truly begin. May all find repentance and change to act and live as a true child of God should for the things I have saw by many but not by all upon this forum are not of God but actions by vipers by devils.

[Niyr]

Jesus Christ called it like he saw it. The pharisees were hypocrites right? He called them fools. He didn't do it to be mean. I'm sure it was to try and get them to see their error. It's ok to call someone out for doing something wrong. It's ok to judge righteously, and Emmanuel pretending to be one of the Godhead is blasphemous and foolish.

[iWriteStuff]

I think I understand now how this thread has existed for seven pages while not addressing the OP in at least 6.5....

[Emmanuel]

I think I understand now how this thread has existed for seven pages while not addressing the OP in at least 6.5....

People disrupted it on purpose hoping to bait me to be banned again by Brian, adversary put it into their hearts they are filled in spirit of contention. They will be forgiven by me as they know not what they do, but by eternal law their is consequences and people have act in unwise and foolish ways. I have given them warning about it for their sake and still they continue to ignore the warnings and act in judgement, mockery and scoffing as such the laws are justified that they reap as sowed as I have been shamed so shall I be ashamed of them when I come in day of burning, lest they truly and utterly repent of their sins even then forgiveness upon opening of sixth seal can not come easily.

I have asked to return to the topic and people have continued to make the focus about who I am, a soul should ask why and if I am truly the Son of God a part of the Godhead, the God of this universe what does that mean for those who are acting as devils before me, how can I bear witness to my Father that they are sheep of my fold. The wise would never judge mock or insult someone who makes such a statement. Do you think I am not aware of the consequence of claiming to be Christ and not being Christ, but what I have spoken is the truth and in the beginning it was not my intention to even reveal it but people continued to ask which authority do I hold and tempting me and asking who I am and so I have said it.

I pray you all repent for you have no idea the consequences that will come from your actions, I can not stop Abaddon from acting even now upon your life's due to the things some have said while I spoke by the Spirit of truth. I pray what comes will bring people to repentance that they will pour out their hearts and souls asking forgiveness of their errors in life.

[durangout]

I think I understand now how this thread has existed for seven pages while not addressing the OP in at least 6.5....

People disrupted it on purpose hoping to bait me to be banned again by Brian, adversary put it into their hearts they are filled in spirit of contention. They will be forgiven by me as they know not what they do, but by eternal law their is consequences and people have act in unwise and foolish ways. I have given them warning about it for their sake and still they continue to ignore the warnings and act in judgement, mockery and scoffing as such the laws are justified that they reap as sowed as I have been shamed so shall I be ashamed of them when I come in day of burning, lest they truly and utterly repent of their sins even then forgiveness upon opening of sixth seal can not come easily.

I have asked to return to the topic and people have continued to make the focus about who I am, a soul should ask why and if I am truly the Son of God a part of the Godhead, the God of this universe what does that mean for those who are acting as devils before me, how can I bear witness to my Father that they are sheep of my fold. The wise would never judge mock or insult someone who makes such a statement. Do you think I am not aware of the consequence of claiming to be Christ and not being Christ, but what I have spoken is the truth and in the beginning it was not my intention to even reveal it but people continued to ask which authority do I hold and tempting me and asking who I am and so I have said it.

I pray you all repent for you have no idea the consequences that will come from your actions, I can not stop Abaddon from acting even now upon your life's due to the things some have said while I spoke by the Spirit of truth. I pray what comes will bring people to repentance that they will pour out their hearts and souls asking forgiveness of their errors in life.

Well, at least you didn't use the word "whom" incorrectly... So you got that going for you.

[Zathura]

Could it be that man created the one medium(the Internet) through which God cannot speak to us???

The Jews thought the Messiah would be some noble born military leader, and mocked Jesus for being the exact opposite.
It's better not to judge and accuse.

If he is Christ, those who judge and accuse and mock will be punished. If he is a false prophet however, he will be punished and you will be fine. Worry about your own salvation.

[iWriteStuff]

If he is Christ, those who judge and accuse and mock will be punished. If he is a false prophet however, he will be punished and you will be fine. Worry about your own salvation.

This is a marvelous example of a horrible and dangerous fallacy.

Worry about your own salvation.

Ok, what does salvation consist of if not a knowledge of and a personal relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? Are we not then under an obligation, even a commandment, to seek Him out and discern for ourselves whether He is in our midst?

You HAVE to discern/judge/choose, at least as regards Emmanuel's claims. To be wishy-washy or fail to exercise your agency to discern truth leaves you open to deception/fraud/condemnation. To deny the Savior is to place your salvation in jeopardy. At the same time, to choose to be deceived or waive your right to know for certain is just as dangerous.

Again, not Christ. Well meaning, some good insights, and an enviable attempt to convey his thoughts, but not Christ.

Choose ye this day.

[shadow]

You self-righteous bunch of hypocrites!...

That's rich. See what you did there? You did exactly what you accuse others of doing. There's a word for that #-o

[freedomforall]

Adversary stirs them to judge and mock to scoff and ridicule because of who I am, it gives him power to take claim even if they were baptised into the church of LDS. But they are making the choice to act and it is coming from pride and indeed they are as Modern day Pharisees and Sadducee's. It brings me sorrow because I do know what it means for those souls and my posting upon this forum was never that intention, nevertheless the truth is a doubled edged sword and so it divides the field. When I open the sixth seal if they have not repented by that day, what they did know in truth is taken from them and they fall away into darkness it is the consequence to rejecting the Son of man when his grace has been offered. My Spirit can not remain inside those who have judged and mocked and scoffed and shamed me while I am in a incarnation of flesh, for my soul in this body is connected in Spirit to my Father which resides in Heaven and even I am with Him in the future as I was in the beginning. And so in the day the sun darkens many shall lose the Light of Christ that bears witness to the truth, for they never heeded it to begin with so even that which they did know is taken away. I can not continue to sustain mankind from the fall and must soon release the cup I hold then end shall truly begin. May all find repentance and change to act and live as a true child of God should for the things I have saw by many but not by all upon this forum are not of God but actions by vipers by devils.

You claimed that you are working toward perfection, right. It has already been brought out, in fact. Let me give you some facts. Jesus Christ, of whom you claim to be, is a perfect, exalted being who sits at the right hand of the Father on thrones. Jesus is no longer flawed and is rendered perfect. You cannot claim to be working toward perfection and claim to be Christ.
Further, you cannot say we are hypocrites when those of us questioning your claims are following the Spirit of truth as we seek to know with whom we are speaking, and seeing if what you say is truth and would be accepted by President Monson. We have that right and call to discern spirits as I pointed out using scriptures. So now who are the hypocrites.
The priesthood is much, much more than just something to fall back on at times. It is the power of God to righteous individuals for the purpose of detecting falsehoods that could otherwise trip someone up and cause them to head down a different path. Read Lehi's dream and know for yourself. There are people clinging to the iron rod that get part way and then fall away. Why? Because they allowed something to distract them. Others stayed on the path and made it to the Tree of Life. Why? Because they didn't listen to every strange wind of doctrine and those trying to avert them.

We are to feast upon the word of God, the written word, the official church doctrine, for in them is the fullness of the gospel. In them we learn what to do to make it back to the Father, by doing and being 1) steadfast and immovable. 2) feast upon the word, the iron rod, 3) repent often, 4) remember the Savior at all times, 5) keep the commandments, 6) strive to have the Holy Spirit with us always, 7) pray always, 8) endure to the end of our lives.

Isn't calling us vipers and devils a mocking and scoffing statement? Really! I don't know of anyone on this forum calling you a viper or a devil. And if this is your MO to bring us under subjection to you, this name calling isn't going to earn you any points.

[Zathura]

You HAVE to discern/judge/choose, at least as regards Emmanuel's claims. To be wishy-washy or fail to exercise your agency to discern truth leaves you open to deception/fraud/condemnation. To deny the Savior is to place your salvation in jeopardy. At the same time, to choose to be deceived or waive your right to know for certain is just as dangerous.
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Discerning for yourself whether or not He is your Savior doesn't mean you need to judge, mock and condemn this person. Deal with the beam in your own eye.

[Zathura]

Mormons are more quick to judge and condemn that the born again Christians and Evangelicals that they make fun of. Its disheartening to say the least.
I see certain people in this forum that do nothing but condemn and judge others. All they do is shoot down Revelations that others have received, tell people they are wrong. That's nothing like Joseph Smith was and what he taught. He invited ministers of other faiths to preach at times

[Zathura]

People tend to think they are like Jacob/Alma/Nephi and rebuke/condemn others in the name of their "Priesthood". If they stop and realize what those prophets had to do and receive in order to have authority from God to do those things, they would shut their mouths and repent.

For the record, I never even said what I believe. I simply said that we shouldn't judge, and I've already been attacked and been told that I have a dangerous belief.

[freedomforall]

You self-righteous bunch of hypocrites!...

That's rich. See what you did there? You did exactly what you accuse others of doing. There's a word for that #-o

Yes, but Shadow, why confuse someone like this with facts? Fiction, well that's another story.

Here's food for thought. We are now hypocrites, right?
Let's focus on Brian for a moment, and please, Brian, don't take offense because this is a great example of what is going on here.

Is Brian a hypocrite, a viper and devil for banning the man as Emmanuel, Burningsword and EhyehAsherEhyeh, twice already?

But, hey, us heathen, hypocrites should just humble ourselves and let the man spew out the call to repentance, clearly against forum rules. Harsh judgements and labeling of us as vipers and devils, also against forum rules.

So if Brian decides he's had enough will that make him a damned viper, devilish hypocrite? After all, he is the owner of this board, is he not?

What I don't get is that sometimes Emmanuel speaks as though he were Christ. Other times he speaks of Christ as another person that he's trying to get close to. Am I the only one detecting this dilemma? #-o :-\

[Fiannan]

Does the Anti-Christ actually have to be a man?

I would assume such a person would have to come from the Tribe of Ephraim, but other than that.

[Emmanuel]

You self-righteous bunch of hypocrites! You modern day Pharisees and Sadducees. How dare you crucify this man in the forum of public opinion for the supposed crime of striving to be like the Christ. There is not a humble man among you. You cackling jackals shame the Priesthood of the name you bare. May God forgive me for striking out, but I can't take anymore of this.

That's rich. See what you did there? You did exactly what you accuse others of doing. There's a word for that #-o

She was given those words by the Holy Spirit it is the same when Joseph spoke to those who would not let up in the jail. I tell you she shall be blessed and spared the fall for her faith in me as a Son of man and shall see the sign and be called, which only those capable shall see for behold the sky look up all ye who are called who can see for I giveth a sign to ye. But to the wicked behold your eyes be blinded that you can not see and so shall you fall when the world falls for some I shall preserve, and this is why it is written blessed are they who find him early.

[setyourselffree]

You self-righteous bunch of hypocrites! You modern day Pharisees and Sadducees. How dare you crucify this man in the forum of public opinion for the supposed crime of striving to be like the Christ. There is not a humble man among you. You cackling jackals shame the Priesthood of the name you bare. May God forgive me for striking out, but I can't take anymore of this.

That's rich. See what you did there? You did exactly what you accuse others of doing. There's a word for that #-o

Yes, but Shadow, why confuse someone like this with facts? Fiction, well that's another story.

Here's food for thought. We are now hypocrites, right?
Let's focus on Brian for a moment, and please, Brian, don't take offense because this is a great example of what is going on here.

Is Brian a hypocrite, a viper and devil for banning the man as Emmanuel, Burningsword and EhyehAsherEhyeh, twice already?

But, hey, us heathen, hypocrites should just humble ourselves and let the man spew out the call to repentance, clearly against forum rules. Harsh judgements and labeling of us as vipers and devils, also against forum rules.

So if Brian decides he's had enough will that make him a damned viper, devilish hypocrite? After all, he is the owner of this board, is he not?

What I don't get is that sometimes Emmanuel speaks as though he were Christ. Other times he speaks of Christ as another person that he's trying to get close to. Am I the only one detecting this dilemma? #-o :-\

I am starting to think that Emmanuel goes by several different names on this board. And those defending him are his other alter ego's. But hey that's just me.

[Emmanuel]

Could it be that man created the one medium(the Internet) through which God cannot speak to us???

The Jews thought the Messiah would be some noble born military leader, and mocked Jesus for being the exact opposite.
It's better not to judge and accuse.

If he is Christ, those who judge and accuse and mock will be punished. If he is a false prophet however, he will be punished and you will be fine. Worry about your own salvation.

You are wise, when the sign of Son of man comes go unto the place the Spirit reveals. Be at peace.

[setyourselffree]

I can't believe I am on here rebutting someone who claims to be my savior! I need to get a life.

[Emmanuel]

You self-righteous bunch of hypocrites! You modern day Pharisees and Sadducees. How dare you crucify this man in the forum of public opinion for the supposed crime of striving to be like the Christ. There is not a humble man among you. You cackling jackals shame the Priesthood of the name you bare. May God forgive me for striking out, but I can't take anymore of this.

That's rich. See what you did there? You did exactly what you accuse others of doing. There's a word for that #-o

Yes, but Shadow, why confuse someone like this with facts? Fiction, well that's another story.

Here's food for thought. We are now hypocrites, right?
Let's focus on Brian for a moment, and please, Brian, don't take offense because this is a great example of what is going on here.

Is Brian a hypocrite, a viper and devil for banning the man as Emmanuel, Burningsword and EhyehAsherEhyeh, twice already?

But, hey, us heathen, hypocrites should just humble ourselves and let the man spew out the call to repentance, clearly against forum rules. Harsh judgements and labeling of us as vipers and devils, also against forum rules.

So if Brian decides he's had enough will that make him a damned viper, devilish hypocrite? After all, he is the owner of this board, is he not?

What I don't get is that sometimes Emmanuel speaks as though he were Christ. Other times he speaks of Christ as another person that he's trying to get close to. Am I the only one detecting this dilemma? #-o :-\

I am starting to think that Emmanuel goes by several different names on this board. And those defending him are his other alter ego's. But hey that's just me.

names I have used are BurningSword, Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh and this one Emmanuel...

The other accounts were banned due to vipers seeking my destruction, for devil hates when I enlighten the minds of the seeking. For I have power to seal people from falling into the coming fall of earth and also power to reject a soul from entering the higher spheres. Know the seriousness of the scripture which says no unclean thing shall enter the Kingdom of God, all must be purified first and show will receive it sooner than others for some I will spare the great tribulation. their is two stages the tribulation and great tribulation.

[rewcox]

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I respect both of you. I am curious what you see in Em. You can send me a PM if you like.

[shadow]

She was given those words by the Holy Spirit it is the same when Joseph spoke to those who would not let up in the jail. I tell you she shall be blessed and spared the fall for her faith in me as a Son of man and shall see the sign and be called, which only those capable shall see for behold the sky look up all ye who are called who can see for I giveth a sign to ye. But to the wicked behold your eyes be blinded that you can not see and so shall you fall when the world falls for some I shall preserve, and this is why it is written blessed are they who find him early.

I bet she's relieved #:-s

[Finrock]

iWriteStuff,

Thanks for your response. You are saying in your post that Emmanuel cannot be God therefore God is not posting. It is circular logic, but, valid.

If someone types or writes something by the Spirit of truth, who is typing or writing those words? If I am filled with the Spirit of truth, am I typing words or is it God? The Spirit of God is God.

I say this, if any person speaks, types, writes, by the Spirit of truth, it is God who IS speaking, writing, typing. I say this too, I have felt the Spirit of truth in many of Emmanuel's words.

Discerning truth is relevant. Judging whether Emmanuel is Jesus Christ is not. By his own request he asked that his identity be ignored. Only those who wanted to mock, scorn, and ridicule made his identity the point. The message is the point and how you deal with those who you feel are less than you is the point.

I appreciate you engaging. I intend to focus the rest of my time on the OP.

-Finrock

[freedomforall]

People tend to think they are like Jacob/Alma/Nephi and rebuke/condemn others in the name of their "Priesthood". If they stop and realize what those prophets had to do and receive in order to have authority from God to do those things, they would shut their mouths and repent.

For the record, I never even said what I believe. I simply said that we shouldn't judge, and I've already been attacked and been told that I have a dangerous belief.

Why don't you read D&C 46:23 and see where some of us get the authority. If this does not clear things up, then who really has the mindset of judging and calling to repentance?

Listening to someone like Emmanuel and not knowing the gospel of Jesus Christ is so easy, and can be dangerous.
Knowing the gospel as commanded to do gives us knowing by which we can pick out falsehoods and correct them. This is exactly why Christ called others hypocrites, because they were unlearned as to the words of Christ and just made things up as they went. Did he not say that even if they had read any scriptures they didn't understand them? Why? Because their hearts were hardened to truth.

This concept applies today. False doctrine has to be dealt with, It is a commandment. And we are told in scripture that sometimes, if necessary, we can bear down in pure testimony against false teachings and teachers, by the discerning of spirits.

John 7:17
17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

1 Kgs. 3:9
9 Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people?

John 10:4
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Someone claiming to be Christ, and then says he is imperfect and seeking to be so...I will not follow that man. One has to be able to discern the words coming forth out of many people to see whether they be right or wrong.

This one covers it very nicely:

1 Cor. 2:14,15
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. See D&C 46:23
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

3 Nephi 24:18
18 Then shall ye return and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

Moro. 7:15
15 For behold, my brethren, it is given unto you to judge, that ye may know good from evil; and the way to judge is as plain, that ye may know with a perfect knowledge, as the daylight is from the dark night.

D&C 46:8
8 Wherefore, beware lest ye are deceived; and that ye may not be deceived seek ye earnestly the best gifts, always remembering for what they are given;

D&C 101:95
95 That I may proceed to bring to pass my act, my strange act, and perform my work, my strange work, that men may discern between the righteous and the wicked, saith your God.

1 Jn. 4:1 (1–6)
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

This ought to be enough evidence of what I say.

[Zathura]

@Freedomforall None of that is relevant, because all I said was that we shouldn't judge, mock and condemn. Quoting scripture that I agree with and understand is a waste of time. None of those scriptures tells you to mock, condemn, and judge someone who is a false prophet. If anything, we are told to welcome those who have made mistakes and gone apostate with open arms and nurture them.

I know that some have the gift to discern, but most don't. Just like We are told to pray about any Revelation that even a Prophet has, we can't just depend on You because you say that you discerned through The Spirit that he's a false prophet.

Not only do these people judge, mock, and condemn this person named "Emmanuel" These people are also judging mocking and condemning anybody else who doesn't agree completely with them. That's a slippery slope.

You don't even know me and it looks like you just told me that I'm hard hearted and that I don't read the scriptures, or that I don't understand them if i do read them. I work out my own Salvation with fear and trembling, and we should all do the same. I look at the beam in my own eye, or at least I try to.

[Zathura]

What if this person is here only to test us? To see how we treat others that disagree with us or teach something we don't want to hear? What if God has a purpose in this?
If we can run into an angel on the road and not know it, what if we run into an "angel" online? I've heard stories of people who gave a homeless person money and food, and later realized it was an angel. Is it not possible that this be a situation like that? God works in mysterious ways.
If you discerned for yourself that it's all false and evil, go on your way with your answer and pray that others will see the light also. Mocking, judging, and throwing scripture quotes at people does nothing.