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Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 7:02 pm
by BTH&T
Matchmaker wrote:I understand that Christ will be on the earth for the meeting at Adam-Ondi-Ahman, and that the world, and the Church at large, will be unaware of that visit. He won't be coming in all His glory then, or this telestial world would burn up.
You are correct.
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Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 7:15 pm
by Matchmaker
Ezra wrote:
Matchmaker wrote:I understand that Christ will be on the earth for the meeting at Adam-Ondi-Ahman, and that the world, and the Church at large, will be unaware of that visit. He won't be coming in all His glory then, or this telestial world would burn up.
My bro his patriarical blessing says he will be a leader at adom ondi ahman during this life and never taste death.
He is 38.

It sounds like he may be chosen to be one of the 144,000 High Priests who will be translated.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 7:16 pm
by Ezra
Could be.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 7:17 pm
by Matchmaker
BTH&T wrote:
Matchmaker wrote:I understand that Christ will be on the earth for the meeting at Adam-Ondi-Ahman, and that the world, and the Church at large, will be unaware of that visit. He won't be coming in all His glory then, or this telestial world would burn up.
You are correct.
https://www.lds.org/manual/doctrines-of ... g?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thank you so much for posting that link.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 8:43 pm
by Stacy Oliver
Emmanuel,

I guess you feel really special and different today. Maybe it's all the excitement around here. Why don't you try a very low key routine for the next few days.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 9:24 pm
by Emmanuel
So many cast stones yet they have sin, how can their sins be forgiven if they cast stones. A soul will reap as it has sown even in what it speaks, thinks and does. The self righteous shall be cast down and crushed as vipers underfoot in the day the Son comes in his glory, but before that day comes there is indeed other appearances that few shall part take off. As it is written in scripture- For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 9:28 pm
by Emmanuel
Matchmaker wrote:I understand that Christ will be on the earth for the meeting at Adam-Ondi-Ahman, and that the world, and the Church at large, will be unaware of that visit. He won't be coming in all His glory then, or this telestial world would burn up.
That shall be small in number compared to the world at large those who will attend that meeting, they will be hidden from the world while that meeting takes place a mystery, none not meant to be their will be able to enter the land during that meeting. The current prophet of that time and leadership of the church shall attend such as shall certain members who will be called and chosen, the true calling will be in spirit and few will heed it in that time. That event you speak of shall occur before the opening of the sixth seal to prepare the church for Zion, it is also after during the days of darkness the great apostasy spoken will come upon many members of the church, but those souls who attended the meeting at Adam-Ondi-Ahman shall not fall away but shall be as righteous lights before men.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 9:30 pm
by Emmanuel
Ezra wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:
Ezra wrote:If you look at The powers that rule in America. The anti Christ has been in power since the early 1900s. Since 1915 the anti Christ has had his men as either president or vise president except for 2 elections. Anyone of those men who have had a change of heart have been assassinated or an attempt on there lives. I'm talking about the illuminati Or tri lateral/ cfr buildsaberger group.

Which are not large in number but the power they wield is exactly as the op has described.
The world has long been manipulated by the Devil and his Son the Antichrist and even Lucifer and his angels. Even mankind's genetics have been altered over the generations and are not as it once was when Adam and Eve first fell from Garden of Eden. Governments of the world are manipulated by adversary and have been used to set-up the world for the coming fall, after which what people call the new world order, will be part of the ruler-ship of Antichrist meaning he will be made ruler of the world in his time of rule and all laws and country's will be subject to his rule.
What I'm saying is he already is a ruler. He rules all county's in the shadows .
Indeed, he has manipulated the country's since the beginning. But as you know it is prophecy of him coming as a King to rule the world in the flesh that being the Antichrist Son of Perdition.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 9:32 pm
by freedomforall
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Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 9:35 pm
by freedomforall
freedomforall wrote:
SmallFarm wrote:I think we are to treat each other as if Christ is there.
Thank you, Smallfarm. This is indeed a tough row to hoe.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 9:46 pm
by Emmanuel
Stourme wrote:
Matchmaker wrote:To Stourme and the other guys,

Are you so very sure of your own degree of righteousness and worthiness as a High Priest that you are above and beyond the possibility of being wrong? Are you so sure of your own ability to discern the Spirit that you declare it is impossible for you to make a mistake of this level of seriousness?
Yes.

I have the utmost faith in my ability to discern and declare in all righteousness that Emmanuel is NOT a member of the Godhead.
The leader of the Pharisees thought the same and he currently resides in the darkness of Hades. Bearing false witness is breaking a commandment of God. It is actually a serious thing for you to declare as you have done and brings full accountability upon you if being wrong which I testify you are indeed wrong.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 9:53 pm
by freedomforall
Emmanuel wrote:
Ezra wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:
Ezra wrote:If you look at The powers that rule in America. The anti Christ has been in power since the early 1900s. Since 1915 the anti Christ has had his men as either president or vise president except for 2 elections. Anyone of those men who have had a change of heart have been assassinated or an attempt on there lives. I'm talking about the illuminati Or tri lateral/ cfr buildsaberger group.

Which are not large in number but the power they wield is exactly as the op has described.
The world has long been manipulated by the Devil and his Son the Antichrist and even Lucifer and his angels. Even mankind's genetics have been altered over the generations and are not as it once was when Adam and Eve first fell from Garden of Eden. Governments of the world are manipulated by adversary and have been used to set-up the world for the coming fall, after which what people call the new world order, will be part of the ruler-ship of Antichrist meaning he will be made ruler of the world in his time of rule and all laws and country's will be subject to his rule.
What I'm saying is he already is a ruler. He rules all county's in the shadows .
Indeed, he has manipulated the country's since the beginning. But as you know it is prophecy of him coming as a King to rule the world in the flesh that being the Antichrist Son of Perdition.
Satan/Lucifer is Perdition. All else that follow him are son's of perdition, just as all followers of Christ are his sons and daughters.
Like I said, Cain will rule over Satan because Cain received a body.

Moses 5:23,24
23 If thou doest well, thou shalt be accepted. And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door, and Satan desireth to have thee; and except thou shalt hearken unto my commandments, I will deliver thee up, and it shall be unto thee according to his desire. And thou shalt rule over him;
24 For from this time forth thou shalt be the father of his lies; thou shalt be called Perdition; for thou wast also before the world.

Anyone that has been enlightened to a very high level then falls away are subject to becoming a son of perdition. Anti-Christ(s) already is/are one.

D&C 76:
30 And we saw a vision of the sufferings of those with whom he made war and overcame, for thus came the voice of the Lord unto us:
31 Thus saith the Lord concerning all those who know my power, and have been made partakers thereof, and suffered themselves through the power of the devil to be overcome, and to deny the truth and defy my power—
32 They are they who are the sons of perdition, of whom I say that it had been better for them never to have been born;
33 For they are vessels of wrath, doomed to suffer the wrath of God, with the devil and his angels in eternity;
34 Concerning whom I have said there is ao forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come—
35 Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame.
36 These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels—
37 And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power;
38 Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 9:59 pm
by Emmanuel

Indeed, he has manipulated the country's since the beginning. But as you know it is prophecy of him coming as a King to rule the world in the flesh that being the Antichrist Son of Perdition.
Satan/Lucifer is Perdition. All else that follow him are son's of perdition, just as all followers of Christ are his sons and daughters.
Like I said, Cain will rule over Satan because Cain received a body.

Moses 5:23,24
23 If thou doest well, thou shalt be accepted. And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door, and Satan desireth to have thee; and except thou shalt hearken unto my commandments, I will deliver thee up, and it shall be unto thee according to his desire. And thou shalt rule over him;
24 For from this time forth thou shalt be the father of his lies; thou shalt be called Perdition; for thou wast also before the world.

Anyone that has been enlightened to a very high level then falls away are subject to becoming a son of perdition. Anti-Christ(s) already is/are one.

D&C 76:
30 And we saw a vision of the sufferings of those with whom he made war and overcame, for thus came the voice of the Lord unto us:
31 Thus saith the Lord concerning all those who know my power, and have been made partakers thereof, and suffered themselves through the power of the devil to be overcome, and to deny the truth and defy my power—
32 They are they who are the sons of perdition, of whom I say that it had been better for them never to have been born;
33 For they are vessels of wrath, doomed to suffer the wrath of God, with the devil and his angels in eternity;
34 Concerning whom I have said there is ao forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come—
35 Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame.
36 These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels—
37 And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power;
38 Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath.
Lucifer is indeed a adopted Son of Abaddon and a Son of perdition, however he it not the Begotten Son of Abaddon the man to be known as the AntiChrist. Which is as Christ was to his Father of the same spiritual substance, the Son of perdition known as Antichrist has never seen higher spheres he was brought forth by evil and is acting directly through the will of Abaddon his Father the Devil. Satan as known as Lucifer is involved but will still be ruling the underworld of hades, trying to break down souls who become trapped there. Remember their is many Sons of perditions 'Antichrist's even some of mankind are considered as such, but the Son of Perdition to distinction is speaking about the Son of Abaddon the Devil.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 10:09 pm
by Ezra
Emmanuel wrote:
Ezra wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:
Ezra wrote:If you look at The powers that rule in America. The anti Christ has been in power since the early 1900s. Since 1915 the anti Christ has had his men as either president or vise president except for 2 elections. Anyone of those men who have had a change of heart have been assassinated or an attempt on there lives. I'm talking about the illuminati Or tri lateral/ cfr buildsaberger group.

Which are not large in number but the power they wield is exactly as the op has described.
The world has long been manipulated by the Devil and his Son the Antichrist and even Lucifer and his angels. Even mankind's genetics have been altered over the generations and are not as it once was when Adam and Eve first fell from Garden of Eden. Governments of the world are manipulated by adversary and have been used to set-up the world for the coming fall, after which what people call the new world order, will be part of the ruler-ship of Antichrist meaning he will be made ruler of the world in his time of rule and all laws and country's will be subject to his rule.
What I'm saying is he already is a ruler. He rules all county's in the shadows .
Indeed, he has manipulated the country's since the beginning. But as you know it is prophecy of him coming as a King to rule the world in the flesh that being the Antichrist Son of Perdition.
He already is the little king. Or in other words the king behind the puppets.

Joseph fielding smith

Satan has control now. No matter where you look, he is in control, even in our own land. He is guiding the governments as far as the Lord will permit him. That is why there is so much strife, turmoil, and confusion all
over the earth. One master mind is governing the nations. It is not the president of the United States; it is
not Hitler; it is not Mussolini; it is not the king or government of England or any other land; it is Satan
himself.
Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation Vol I

The prophecy of the little king raising to power who is the anti Christ is and has been in power since the early 1900s

We are under his rule currently.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 10:09 pm
by freedomforall
Emmanuel wrote:
Stourme wrote:
Matchmaker wrote:To Stourme and the other guys,

Are you so very sure of your own degree of righteousness and worthiness as a High Priest that you are above and beyond the possibility of being wrong? Are you so sure of your own ability to discern the Spirit that you declare it is impossible for you to make a mistake of this level of seriousness?
Yes.

I have the utmost faith in my ability to discern and declare in all righteousness that Emmanuel is NOT a member of the Godhead.
The leader of the Pharisees thought the same and he currently resides in the darkness of Hades. Bearing false witness is breaking a commandment of God. It is actually a serious thing for you to declare as you have done and brings full accountability upon you if being wrong which I testify you are indeed wrong.
D&C 46:23 gives him the right, yet you make harsh judgements over the very words you are supposed to have given us in scripture. Red Flag Eight.

23 And to others the discerning of spirits.

Acts 16:18 (16–18)
16 ¶And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

Moses 1:15 (13–15)
13 And it came to pass that Moses looked upon Satan and said: Who art thou? For behold, I am a son of God, in the similitude of his Only Begotten; and where is thy glory, that I should worship thee?
14 For behold, I could not look upon God, except his glory should come upon me, and I were transfigured before him. But I can look upon thee in the natural man. Is it not so, surely?
15 Blessed be the name of my God, for his Spirit hath not altogether withdrawn from me, or else where is thy glory, for it is darkness unto me? And I can judge between thee and God; for God said unto me: Worship God, for him only shalt thou serve.

As a gift of God it is the right of men to challenge spirits. You may not like it, but take it up with Father. Harshly judging those who discern with the Holy Ghost and detect false spirits are within their rights, and should not be chastened by you. But if you were Christ, you would already know this.
I myself feel no light, just words. My Saviors power is so intense it could be compared to a fire on the other side of the planet that I could feel the heat from for 14,000 miles away. This is but a weak example, but how else are the stars going to fling themselves from his presence?

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 10:24 pm
by freedomforall
Emmanuel wrote:

Indeed, he has manipulated the country's since the beginning. But as you know it is prophecy of him coming as a King to rule the world in the flesh that being the Antichrist Son of Perdition.
Satan/Lucifer is Perdition. All else that follow him are son's of perdition, just as all followers of Christ are his sons and daughters.
Like I said, Cain will rule over Satan because Cain received a body.

Moses 5:23,24
23 If thou doest well, thou shalt be accepted. And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door, and Satan desireth to have thee; and except thou shalt hearken unto my commandments, I will deliver thee up, and it shall be unto thee according to his desire. And thou shalt rule over him;
24 For from this time forth thou shalt be the father of his lies; thou shalt be called Perdition; for thou wast also before the world.

Anyone that has been enlightened to a very high level then falls away are subject to becoming a son of perdition. Anti-Christ(s) already is/are one.

D&C 76:
30 And we saw a vision of the sufferings of those with whom he made war and overcame, for thus came the voice of the Lord unto us:
31 Thus saith the Lord concerning all those who know my power, and have been made partakers thereof, and suffered themselves through the power of the devil to be overcome, and to deny the truth and defy my power—
32 They are they who are the sons of perdition, of whom I say that it had been better for them never to have been born;
33 For they are vessels of wrath, doomed to suffer the wrath of God, with the devil and his angels in eternity;
34 Concerning whom I have said there is ao forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come—
35 Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame.
36 These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels—
37 And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power;
38 Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath.
Lucifer is indeed a adopted Son of Abaddon and a Son of perdition, however he it not the Begotten Son of Abaddon the man to be known as the AntiChrist. Which is as Christ was to his Father of the same spiritual substance, the Son of perdition known as Antichrist has never seen higher spheres he was brought forth by evil and is acting directly through the will of Abaddon his Father the Devil. Satan as known as Lucifer is involved but will still be ruling the underworld of hades, trying to break down souls who become trapped there. Remember their is many Sons of perditions 'Antichrist's even some of mankind are considered as such, but the Son of Perdition to distinction is speaking about the Son of Abaddon the Devil.
I couldn't disagree more. Lucifer is he who was cast out of heaven before Abaddon was ever thought of. He became Satan, the Devil to roam the earth until he and his followers are thrown into the pit. Abaddon is either Satan himself or a high crone to Satan. There is nobody above Satan at present until Cain rules over him. Scriptures are clear on this as I have already shown. Lucifer was a brother of Jehovah in the per-existance.

Moses 4:1 (1–2)
1 And I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying: That Satan, whom thou hast commanded in the name of mine Only Begotten, is the same which was from the beginning, and he came before me, saying—Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor.
2 But, behold, my Beloved Son, which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me—Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever.

Abaddon in this sense can only be none other than Satan. Abaddon, meaning The Destroyer or Destruction. in (Hebrew)
Anti-Christ, or Beast is someone altogether different, given the power to deceive many and to overcome the saints at some point. Rev 13:7

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 10:27 pm
by Emmanuel
freedomforall wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:
Stourme wrote:
Matchmaker wrote:To Stourme and the other guys,

Are you so very sure of your own degree of righteousness and worthiness as a High Priest that you are above and beyond the possibility of being wrong? Are you so sure of your own ability to discern the Spirit that you declare it is impossible for you to make a mistake of this level of seriousness?
Yes.

I have the utmost faith in my ability to discern and declare in all righteousness that Emmanuel is NOT a member of the Godhead.
The leader of the Pharisees thought the same and he currently resides in the darkness of Hades. Bearing false witness is breaking a commandment of God. It is actually a serious thing for you to declare as you have done and brings full accountability upon you if being wrong which I testify you are indeed wrong.
D&C 46:23 gives him the right, yet you make harsh judgements over the very words you are supposed to have given us in scripture. Red Flag Eight.

23 And to others the discerning of spirits.

Acts 16:18 (16–18)
16 ¶And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

Moses 1:15 (13–15)
13 And it came to pass that Moses looked upon Satan and said: Who art thou? For behold, I am a son of God, in the similitude of his Only Begotten; and where is thy glory, that I should worship thee?
14 For behold, I could not look upon God, except his glory should come upon me, and I were transfigured before him. But I can look upon thee in the natural man. Is it not so, surely?
15 Blessed be the name of my God, for his Spirit hath not altogether withdrawn from me, or else where is thy glory, for it is darkness unto me? And I can judge between thee and God; for God said unto me: Worship God, for him only shalt thou serve.

As a gift of God it is the right of men to challenge spirits. You may not like it, but take it up with Father. Harshly judging those who discern with the Holy Ghost and detect false spirits are within their rights, and should not be chastened by you. But if you were Christ, you would already know this.
I myself feel no light, just words. My Saviors power is so intense it could be compared to a fire on the other side of the planet that I could feel the heat from for 14,000 miles away. This is but a weak example, but how else are the stars going to fling themselves from his presence?
Stand against me if you wish, spend your remaining time doing so if you choose. All the energy people are putting in trying to find flaws in me could have been better used in removing the motes from their own eyes. What I have given this forum is a glimpse of things to come what I have revealed is mystery's that many have sought to understand for generations. The Pharisees spent hours daily reading scriptures and praying yet they could not recognise the very Light they claimed to love, how are people any different in this time...

Self righteousness is not of God it cometh from adversary and is the corruption of understanding of righteousness in spirit, the truly righteous are those who approached me not judging who were meek and humble who as little children sought answers and if knew not questioned in kindness not judging mocking and scoffing. If people seek to be called children of God act like it, if one can not be as Christ in all things how then can they be called a child of God.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 10:35 pm
by freedomforall
Emmanuel wrote:
freedomforall wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:[quote="Stourme"
Yes.

I have the utmost faith in my ability to discern and declare in all righteousness that Emmanuel is NOT a member of the Godhead.
The leader of the Pharisees thought the same and he currently resides in the darkness of Hades. Bearing false witness is breaking a commandment of God. It is actually a serious thing for you to declare as you have done and brings full accountability upon you if being wrong which I testify you are indeed wrong.
D&C 46:23 gives him the right, yet you make harsh judgements over the very words you are supposed to have given us in scripture. Red Flag Eight.

23 And to others the discerning of spirits.

Acts 16:18 (16–18)
16 ¶And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

Moses 1:15 (13–15)
13 And it came to pass that Moses looked upon Satan and said: Who art thou? For behold, I am a son of God, in the similitude of his Only Begotten; and where is thy glory, that I should worship thee?
14 For behold, I could not look upon God, except his glory should come upon me, and I were transfigured before him. But I can look upon thee in the natural man. Is it not so, surely?
15 Blessed be the name of my God, for his Spirit hath not altogether withdrawn from me, or else where is thy glory, for it is darkness unto me? And I can judge between thee and God; for God said unto me: Worship God, for him only shalt thou serve.

As a gift of God it is the right of men to challenge spirits. You may not like it, but take it up with Father. Harshly judging those who discern with the Holy Ghost and detect false spirits are within their rights, and should not be chastened by you. But if you were Christ, you would already know this.
I myself feel no light, just words. My Saviors power is so intense it could be compared to a fire on the other side of the planet that I could feel the heat from for 14,000 miles away. This is but a weak example, but how else are the stars going to fling themselves from his presence?
Emmanuel wrote:Stand against me if you wish, spend your remaining time doing so if you choose. All the energy people are putting in trying to find flaws in me could have been better used in removing the motes from their own eyes. What I have given this forum is a glimpse of things to come what I have revealed is mystery's that many have sought to understand for generations. The Pharisees spent hours daily reading scriptures and praying yet they could not recognise the very Light they claimed to love, how are people any different in this time...

Self righteousness is not of God it cometh from adversary and is the corruption of understanding of righteousness in spirit, the truly righteous are those who approached me not judging who were meek and humble who as little children sought answers and if knew not questioned in kindness not judging mocking and scoffing. If people seek to be called children of God act like it, if one can not be as Christ in all things how then can they be called a child of God.
freedomforall wrote: Judge away if you must. You cannot argue with scripture any more than I could buy land on the moon. What scriptures say is of God. I am not self righteous, merely pointing out scriptures to you. If you denounce this then you are in jeopardy. I testify I speak the truth, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 11:21 pm
by Emmanuel
freedomforall wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:
freedomforall wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:[quote="Stourme"
Yes.

I have the utmost faith in my ability to discern and declare in all righteousness that Emmanuel is NOT a member of the Godhead.
The leader of the Pharisees thought the same and he currently resides in the darkness of Hades. Bearing false witness is breaking a commandment of God. It is actually a serious thing for you to declare as you have done and brings full accountability upon you if being wrong which I testify you are indeed wrong.
D&C 46:23 gives him the right, yet you make harsh judgements over the very words you are supposed to have given us in scripture. Red Flag Eight.

23 And to others the discerning of spirits.

Acts 16:18 (16–18)
16 ¶And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

Moses 1:15 (13–15)
13 And it came to pass that Moses looked upon Satan and said: Who art thou? For behold, I am a son of God, in the similitude of his Only Begotten; and where is thy glory, that I should worship thee?
14 For behold, I could not look upon God, except his glory should come upon me, and I were transfigured before him. But I can look upon thee in the natural man. Is it not so, surely?
15 Blessed be the name of my God, for his Spirit hath not altogether withdrawn from me, or else where is thy glory, for it is darkness unto me? And I can judge between thee and God; for God said unto me: Worship God, for him only shalt thou serve.

As a gift of God it is the right of men to challenge spirits. You may not like it, but take it up with Father. Harshly judging those who discern with the Holy Ghost and detect false spirits are within their rights, and should not be chastened by you. But if you were Christ, you would already know this.
I myself feel no light, just words. My Saviors power is so intense it could be compared to a fire on the other side of the planet that I could feel the heat from for 14,000 miles away. This is but a weak example, but how else are the stars going to fling themselves from his presence?
Emmanuel wrote:Stand against me if you wish, spend your remaining time doing so if you choose. All the energy people are putting in trying to find flaws in me could have been better used in removing the motes from their own eyes. What I have given this forum is a glimpse of things to come what I have revealed is mystery's that many have sought to understand for generations. The Pharisees spent hours daily reading scriptures and praying yet they could not recognise the very Light they claimed to love, how are people any different in this time...

Self righteousness is not of God it cometh from adversary and is the corruption of understanding of righteousness in spirit, the truly righteous are those who approached me not judging who were meek and humble who as little children sought answers and if knew not questioned in kindness not judging mocking and scoffing. If people seek to be called children of God act like it, if one can not be as Christ in all things how then can they be called a child of God.
freedomforall wrote: Judge away if you must. You cannot argue with scripture any more than I could buy land on the moon. What scriptures say is of God. I am not self righteous, merely pointing out scriptures to you. If you denounce this then you are in jeopardy. I testify I speak the truth, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
People quote scripture not even understanding it themselves, and think they are clever like trying to discredit me but the truth will not be discredited and the things of future I have revealed will be fulfilled. A day will come I will cause this entire world to shake from it orbit in opening of a seal in fulfilling of a prophecy may you repent in that day of thunder and lightning when all nations are shaken. I testify that if people do not repent of their sins and continue with their judgement of me and others as they have been doing, they will be told they were never known by Jesus Christ in the day of judgement. They do not know what they are doing or how much danger they are putting their souls in, there is rules to the universe and when a soul acts as many have acted against the very soul who has the authority to save them it prevents me acting to release them from the darkness. Abaddon is working through people without them realising it and is gaining more power with every judgement, mockery and scoff they have done. This is why people get inspired to disrupt my threads and make judgements believing they are on some type of righteous campaign.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 11:49 pm
by freedomforall
Emmanuel wrote:People quote scripture not even understanding it themselves, and think they are clever like trying to discredit me but the truth will not be discredited and the things of future I have revealed will be fulfilled. A day will come I will cause this entire world to shake from it orbit in opening of a seal in fulfilling of a prophecy may you repent in that day of thunder and lightning when all nations are shaken. I testify that if people do not repent of their sins and continue with their judgement of me and others as they have been doing, they will be told they were never known by Jesus Christ in the day of judgement. They do not know what they are doing or how much danger they are putting their souls in, there is rules to the universe and when a soul acts as many have acted against the very soul who has the authority to save them it prevents me acting to release them from the darkness. Abaddon is working through people without them realising it and is gaining more power with every judgement, mockery and scoff they have done. This is why people get inspired to disrupt my threads and make judgements believing they are on some type of righteous campaign.
You take the words right out of our mouths. I have used scripture to do my speaking, therefore, you have no case against me. I have not scoffed or mocked, rather, I have tested you by the word of God. God's words doth not very, he is the same yesterday, today and forever, he is alpha and omega. Your words do not match the written word, the very words that we are told to feast upon, the very words that are the words of life and salvation.

2 Nephi 32:3
3 Angels speak by the power of the Holy Ghost; wherefore, they speak the words of Christ. Wherefore, I said unto you, feast upon the words of Christ; for behold, the words of Christ will tell you all things what ye should do.


2 Nephi 31:20
20 Wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men. Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life.


Jacob 2:9
9 Wherefore, it burdeneth my soul that I should be constrained, because of the strict commandment which I have received from God, to admonish you according to your crimes, to enlarge the wounds of those who are already wounded, instead of consoling and healing their wounds; and those who have not been wounded, instead of feasting upon the pleasing word of God have daggers placed to pierce their souls and wound their delicate minds.


If you know these words then you know they are true.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 11th, 2015, 12:10 am
by Emmanuel
freedomforall wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:People quote scripture not even understanding it themselves, and think they are clever like trying to discredit me but the truth will not be discredited and the things of future I have revealed will be fulfilled. A day will come I will cause this entire world to shake from it orbit in opening of a seal in fulfilling of a prophecy may you repent in that day of thunder and lightning when all nations are shaken. I testify that if people do not repent of their sins and continue with their judgement of me and others as they have been doing, they will be told they were never known by Jesus Christ in the day of judgement. They do not know what they are doing or how much danger they are putting their souls in, there is rules to the universe and when a soul acts as many have acted against the very soul who has the authority to save them it prevents me acting to release them from the darkness. Abaddon is working through people without them realising it and is gaining more power with every judgement, mockery and scoff they have done. This is why people get inspired to disrupt my threads and make judgements believing they are on some type of righteous campaign.
You take the words right out of our mouths. I have used scripture to do my speaking, therefore, you have no case against me. I have not scoffed or mocked, rather, I have tested you by the word of God. God's words doth not very, he is the same yesterday, today and forever, he is alpha and omega. Your words do not match the written word, the very words that we are told to feast upon, the very words that are the words of life and salvation.

2 Nephi 32:3
3 Angels speak by the power of the Holy Ghost; wherefore, they speak the words of Christ. Wherefore, I said unto you, feast upon the words of Christ; for behold, the words of Christ will tell you all things what ye should do.


2 Nephi 31:20
20 Wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men. Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life.


Jacob 2:9
9 Wherefore, it burdeneth my soul that I should be constrained, because of the strict commandment which I have received from God, to admonish you according to your crimes, to enlarge the wounds of those who are already wounded, instead of consoling and healing their wounds; and those who have not been wounded, instead of feasting upon the pleasing word of God have daggers placed to pierce their souls and wound their delicate minds.


If you know these words then you know they are true.
You are as the Pharisees and don't do a testing of spirit the right way, they did the same to Jesus when he walked the world in the past. Even if I was once him at this time now I am not the wholeness I was, but this does not remove the fact that I am still the Son of man. The Pharisees tried to use scripture to stumble Christ, but it came to not avail. Nothing you have quoted alters anything I have shared for what I have spoken is also supported by scriptures and I have even given examples of this myself. But if you think that a book can contain all the things of the universe all it mystery's all it wonders and secrets, then you truly don't know the universe you live in. It is even part of LDS doctrine that revelations can come that greater things will be revealed overtime, yet when many are given opportunity to learn such things they react as most Christians do in self righteous pride. I have met atheists in this life with more humility than some who call themselves Christian's. I tell you those atheists will enter the kingdom of God before the self righteous Christians shall, for having the gospel they never understood it and never made it a part of themselves. The Atheist being mislead by the world can still be brought low and repent and find the gospel and some will in the times ahead.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 11th, 2015, 12:13 am
by Matchmaker
Freedomforall,
I can tell you have a strong testimony of the Gospel. I bet you are older, like me, and have spent a lifetime in service to others both inside and outside the Church. I would think there are few men in the Church who would stand up so doggedly for what they thought was right as you have. I respect you for that. I don't think God has ever had much respect for those who are too afraid of the opinions of men to stand up for what they truly believe. At least you are not a fence sitter on this issue. I think the Lord is his own man too and can do anything he wants to do, even visit us here as an imperfect man, if that is what he chooses to do or has a purpose in mind for doing it. While it may seem improbable that he would do that, it is not impossible, for he is sovereign and can do as he chooses without the permission of mankind. That is why I would use caution in judging something as improbable as this seems to you or thinking yourself so enlightened that you could never make a mistake in discerning the spirit of another. The consequences of being wrong could be very serious for you down the road.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 11th, 2015, 1:09 am
by Emmanuel
Matchmaker wrote:Freedomforall,
I can tell you have a strong testimony of the Gospel. I bet you are older, like me, and have spent a lifetime in service to others both inside and outside the Church. I would think there are few men in the Church who would stand up so doggedly for what they thought was right as you have. I respect you for that. I don't think God has ever had much respect for those who are too afraid of the opinions of men to stand up for what they truly believe. At least you are not a fence sitter on this issue. I think the Lord is his own man too and can do anything he wants to do, even visit us here as an imperfect man, if that is what he chooses to do or has a purpose in mind for doing it. While it may seem improbable that he would do that, it is not impossible, for he is sovereign and can do as he chooses without the permission of mankind. That is why I would use caution in judging something as improbable as this seems to you or thinking yourself so enlightened that you could never make a mistake in discerning the spirit of another. The consequences of being wrong could be very serious for you down the road.
It is said God works in mysterious ways.

I tell you many in world are as blind men leading blind men trying to climb a narrow path upon a mountain.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 11th, 2015, 3:11 am
by setyourselffree
Emmanuel wrote:
Matchmaker wrote:Freedomforall,
I can tell you have a strong testimony of the Gospel. I bet you are older, like me, and have spent a lifetime in service to others both inside and outside the Church. I would think there are few men in the Church who would stand up so doggedly for what they thought was right as you have. I respect you for that. I don't think God has ever had much respect for those who are too afraid of the opinions of men to stand up for what they truly believe. At least you are not a fence sitter on this issue. I think the Lord is his own man too and can do anything he wants to do, even visit us here as an imperfect man, if that is what he chooses to do or has a purpose in mind for doing it. While it may seem improbable that he would do that, it is not impossible, for he is sovereign and can do as he chooses without the permission of mankind. That is why I would use caution in judging something as improbable as this seems to you or thinking yourself so enlightened that you could never make a mistake in discerning the spirit of another. The consequences of being wrong could be very serious for you down the road.
It is said God works in mysterious ways.

I tell you many in world are as blind men leading blind men trying to climb a narrow path upon a mountain.
Please tell me what is my name and where do I live? Also if you are Jesus wouldn't you be able to spell consistently? You are after all perfect in every way.

Re: Warning about coming Antichrist how to discern Him

Posted: September 11th, 2015, 3:44 am
by Emmanuel
setyourselffree wrote:
Emmanuel wrote:
Matchmaker wrote:Freedomforall,
I can tell you have a strong testimony of the Gospel. I bet you are older, like me, and have spent a lifetime in service to others both inside and outside the Church. I would think there are few men in the Church who would stand up so doggedly for what they thought was right as you have. I respect you for that. I don't think God has ever had much respect for those who are too afraid of the opinions of men to stand up for what they truly believe. At least you are not a fence sitter on this issue. I think the Lord is his own man too and can do anything he wants to do, even visit us here as an imperfect man, if that is what he chooses to do or has a purpose in mind for doing it. While it may seem improbable that he would do that, it is not impossible, for he is sovereign and can do as he chooses without the permission of mankind. That is why I would use caution in judging something as improbable as this seems to you or thinking yourself so enlightened that you could never make a mistake in discerning the spirit of another. The consequences of being wrong could be very serious for you down the road.
It is said God works in mysterious ways.

I tell you many in world are as blind men leading blind men trying to climb a narrow path upon a mountain.
Please tell me what is my name and where do I live? Also if you are Jesus wouldn't you be able to spell consistently? You are after all perfect in every way.
Even if I was able to do as you asked, I would not as tempting the Lord is unwise. Mortality had to be defeat under the same restrictions as normal son of men. I will overcome death meaning in this time the normal flow of things of a body decaying over age and entering into death because of sin, will be defeated this opens the way for the resurrection such a mystery was not revealed to mankind. Mankind is not perfect therefore I have taken it upon me to enter the state of imperfection and shall achieve perfection becoming as I truly am when whole. As a Son of man I am not perfect in every way as I have the flawed fallen body's just as you do at this time and am working to overcome it and change it to immortality. There is a path that can lead a soul to not taste of death that path is being shown to me grace by grace by my Father.