The Prophet Is Jesus Christ’s Spokesman

[Franco]

Trusting God IS trusting a true and living Prophet. The voice of the Lord comes through His appointed servants. Of course we can draw close to God individually, we can receive personal revelation, but when you do not trust a living Prophet of God, does that mean you don't trust God?

One needs to run everything past God. There are many false prophets and a very, very few true ones. And even the true prophets don't always speak the words of God. They may simply give their understanding or opinions.

Religion is between us and God, not us and any man. We have to discern. When we stand before God at the time of judgment, we will be without defense. We cannot say that so-and-so deceived us or that we were obediently following a prophet sent from God, as a defense for turning away from Christ or for not recognizing His words when He spoke through a messenger we did not expect.

So, God will reveal to you, the internet poster calling herself A Random Phrase, what His truths are so that you can decide who is and is not a prophet, as opposed to trusting that Jesus Christ has a prophet on the earth through whom He leads His Church, the Church that He restored through the Prophet Joseph Smith?

Jesus Christ employs no servant AT THE GATE. He employs lots of servants to lead His people under His direction so that they can receive eternal life when they meet Him at the gate.

[Robert Sinclair]

Jeremiah 23, explains from the LORD, how to know perfectly, in the "latter days". Not too many scriptures contain the passage "latter days" go to seek out and understand them all, including "The Book of Enoch the Prophet" which contains the passage "latter days" in chapter CV verse 21. Remember it was Jesus Christ who told Joseph Smith to call his church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, that you would know these are the days written of the "latter days".♡

[Franco]

Silly Rachel, haven't you heard the latest doctrine? Prophets do not need to prophesy. Seers do not need to see. Revelators do not need to reveal. (And mothers certainly do not need to mother.) All that is required is that they have a certain position in the Church. That automatically makes them prophets, seers, and revelators. No action needed. No fruits of prophecy, visions, visitations, and such are required. (I believe it was the Boise Rescue in which an apostle stated something along these lines? And in a recent general conference or two?)

Kind of sad for those who expect mothers to mother and prophets/revelators to state the visions and prophecies they have been given by the Lord, though.

Jesus Christ will not reveal more to the saints until they start living according to that which He has already revealed, which includes the law of tithing and the Word of Wisdom.

Many saints on this forum reject true and living prophets. They reject what has been revealed concerning the Word of Wisdom, thinking that their own interpretation of the scripture is what counts and that every Latter-day prophet has been deceived or is simply lying.

[Zathura]

Silly Rachel, haven't you heard the latest doctrine? Prophets do not need to prophesy. Seers do not need to see. Revelators do not need to reveal. (And mothers certainly do not need to mother.) All that is required is that they have a certain position in the Church. That automatically makes them prophets, seers, and revelators. No action needed. No fruits of prophecy, visions, visitations, and such are required. (I believe it was the Boise Rescue in which an apostle stated something along these lines? And in a recent general conference or two?)

Kind of sad for those who expect mothers to mother and prophets/revelators to state the visions and prophecies they have been given by the Lord, though.

Jesus Christ will not reveal more to the saints until they start living according to that which He has already revealed, which includes the law of tithing and the Word of Wisdom.

Many saints on this forum reject true and living prophets. They reject what has been revealed concerning the Word of Wisdom, thinking that their own interpretation of the scripture is what counts and that every Latter-day prophet has been deceived or is simply lying.

God has revealed more to Saints. Mormons just reject these Saints when they share what God gave them.

[Zathura]

Silly Rachel, haven't you heard the latest doctrine? Prophets do not need to prophesy. Seers do not need to see. Revelators do not need to reveal. (And mothers certainly do not need to mother.) All that is required is that they have a certain position in the Church. That automatically makes them prophets, seers, and revelators. No action needed. No fruits of prophecy, visions, visitations, and such are required. (I believe it was the Boise Rescue in which an apostle stated something along these lines? And in a recent general conference or two?)

Kind of sad for those who expect mothers to mother and prophets/revelators to state the visions and prophecies they have been given by the Lord, though.

Jesus Christ will not reveal more to the saints until they start living according to that which He has already revealed, which includes the law of tithing and the Word of Wisdom.

Many saints on this forum reject true and living prophets. They reject what has been revealed concerning the Word of Wisdom, thinking that their own interpretation of the scripture is what counts and that every Latter-day prophet has been deceived or is simply lying.

I sustain the prophets and apostles, I dont think that every latter day prophet is deceived or lying. I've NEVER though they flat out lie. I do think they can make mistakes, and they have. I think there are more prophets than the current 15 Prophets and Apostles that lead the LDS church.
there could be 20 prophets, there could be 70, 100, or 7 billion prophets. Would God that every man was a prophet.

[Robert Sinclair]

Rember always, Ephraim shall do what is written they shall do that the scriptures be fulfilled every whit. Every LDS member should know the Book of Hosea perfectly, as it is all about them in the latter days, and search the scriptures of "the latter days" for they are about you, and must be fulfilled for the scriptures written to be proven true. You are of the House of Ephraim, as proof you hold the stick of Joseph in your very hands, joined with the stick of Judah, which no other people today do.
See Ezekiel 37:15-23.
May Hosea 14:8 be fulfilled soon.♡

[Franco]

Silly Rachel, haven't you heard the latest doctrine? Prophets do not need to prophesy. Seers do not need to see. Revelators do not need to reveal. (And mothers certainly do not need to mother.) All that is required is that they have a certain position in the Church. That automatically makes them prophets, seers, and revelators. No action needed. No fruits of prophecy, visions, visitations, and such are required. (I believe it was the Boise Rescue in which an apostle stated something along these lines? And in a recent general conference or two?)

Kind of sad for those who expect mothers to mother and prophets/revelators to state the visions and prophecies they have been given by the Lord, though.

Jesus Christ will not reveal more to the saints until they start living according to that which He has already revealed, which includes the law of tithing and the Word of Wisdom.

Many saints on this forum reject true and living prophets. They reject what has been revealed concerning the Word of Wisdom, thinking that their own interpretation of the scripture is what counts and that every Latter-day prophet has been deceived or is simply lying.

God has revealed more to Saints. Mormons just reject these Saints when they share what God gave them.

The Prophet Joseph Smith stated that "the Presidents or Presidency are over the Church; and revelations of the mind and will of God to the Church are to come through the Presidency," which means whatever the members share, claiming it is doctrine from God, did not actually come from God unless it comports to what He has revealed through His Latter-day prophets.

[Zathura]

Silly Rachel, haven't you heard the latest doctrine? Prophets do not need to prophesy. Seers do not need to see. Revelators do not need to reveal. (And mothers certainly do not need to mother.) All that is required is that they have a certain position in the Church. That automatically makes them prophets, seers, and revelators. No action needed. No fruits of prophecy, visions, visitations, and such are required. (I believe it was the Boise Rescue in which an apostle stated something along these lines? And in a recent general conference or two?)

Kind of sad for those who expect mothers to mother and prophets/revelators to state the visions and prophecies they have been given by the Lord, though.

Jesus Christ will not reveal more to the saints until they start living according to that which He has already revealed, which includes the law of tithing and the Word of Wisdom.

Many saints on this forum reject true and living prophets. They reject what has been revealed concerning the Word of Wisdom, thinking that their own interpretation of the scripture is what counts and that every Latter-day prophet has been deceived or is simply lying.

God has revealed more to Saints. Mormons just reject these Saints when they share what God gave them.

The Prophet Joseph Smith stated that "the Presidents or Presidency are over the Church; and revelations of the mind and will of God to the Church are to come through the Presidency," which means whatever the members share, claiming it is doctrine from God, did not actually come from God unless it comports to what He has revealed through His Latter-day prophets.

I know that, and don't disagree with a single thing you say.

What is Doctrine? What does it mean to claim to receive Doctrine from God?

Stating " there will be an earthquake" Is not doctrine, it's not claiming to receive doctrine.

Stating " God told me that Gays can be sealed for eternity" Would be claiming doctrine.

When I say that God has revealed more to Saints, it isn't new doctrine. It's only revelations of Doctrine that he's already revealed. The ministring of Angels, Second Comforter etc. The Saints who receive these things are mocked by many mormons. That's what I meant.

I won't defend someone for a second if he starts claiming he received a new Doctrine from God.

[Robert Sinclair]

No greater Prophet and Spokesman has there ever been than Jesus Christ for his very own church.

And he has said to be as "one and equal in your temporal things", or you are not his followers and disciples.

Who you going to believe, your own eyes and ears, and Spirit of truth, and Holy Ghost that tells you these things, or someone who tells you that you need not do these things, that the time for this, is for after you are dead, when it is over, your day of probation ended, never ever being as one and equal as a people and a church.

Makes me ponder upon why Hosea was commanded to marry a wife of whoredoms as a type and shadow for the house of Ephraim, and why Ephraim builds temples, willingly walking away from this greater law of Christ, and why Enoch said he saw the shepherds destroying themselves and their blind sheep.

And the need to weep and howl, and sound the alarm, and show the people their transgressions against his law, and the old men and administers of his law today, to consider these things as is written in the Book of Joel, saying has this been in our days as well as the days of our fathers?

And then the Lord goes on to tell Joel, how the vineyard has been eaten up by pests, and dried up by the hot wind of men, as fire burning up the trees, and how the field of the wheat and the barley has perished.

That all need to atone for these things, with broken hearts and contrite spirits, and seek to fast and pray, calling a solemn assembly, crying unto the Lord to spare us a little longer, as is also in Jacob 5:50 for the loftiness of the vineyard and bitter fruits in it, that we seek to bring his bride out of the closet, that the bridegroom may finally come forth of his chamber, once we have done this, repairing the breach in equity, restoring all things common among us, breaking every yoke, undoing the heavy burdens of the poor, and letting these oppressed free of poverty, where Jesus Christ will come to us as is written in Isaiah saying, "Here I am".

Who among us could desire more, than to redeem the Zion of God upon this earth, by doing those things he has said to do, such as sounding the alarm that the old men might give ear.

Please seek to contact them today, while there is still time for the Lord to see you hear him and obey him.

Who knows but that enough voices are raised, not to run away, but to return to keep the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, that ear will be given, and an announcement will be forthcoming of-----

"What have I to do any more with idols?" As is written in Hosea 14:8, that we all might be glad and rejoice, that hear the voice of the Good Shepherd calling us, and that answer him, and do as he had said.

So please sound the alarm, and weep to your leaders, may we please return, that we be not cast out as salt without savor, not being equal for homes and lands, as well as just food and raiment, and impart covenants and deeds unto all the poor and needy of the church that could use them, D&C 42:30, to be no longer yoked, and burdened and oppressed.♡

Just like in the year of Jubilee, which has started, all debts removed and portions of land given for inheritances, in the land of promise, as promised of the Lord to the fathers, of their righteous children that hear his voice and obey.♡

[Franco]

Jesus Christ will not reveal more to the saints until they start living according to that which He has already revealed, which includes the law of tithing and the Word of Wisdom.

Many saints on this forum reject true and living prophets. They reject what has been revealed concerning the Word of Wisdom, thinking that their own interpretation of the scripture is what counts and that every Latter-day prophet has been deceived or is simply lying.

God has revealed more to Saints. Mormons just reject these Saints when they share what God gave them.

The Prophet Joseph Smith stated that "the Presidents or Presidency are over the Church; and revelations of the mind and will of God to the Church are to come through the Presidency," which means whatever the members share, claiming it is doctrine from God, did not actually come from God unless it comports to what He has revealed through His Latter-day prophets.

I know that, and don't disagree with a single thing you say.

What is Doctrine? What does it mean to claim to receive Doctrine from God?

Stating " there will be an earthquake" Is not doctrine, it's not claiming to receive doctrine.

Stating " God told me that Gays can be sealed for eternity" Would be claiming doctrine.

When I say that God has revealed more to Saints, it isn't new doctrine. It's only revelations of Doctrine that he's already revealed. The ministring of Angels, Second Comforter etc. The Saints who receive these things are mocked by many mormons. That's what I meant.

I won't defend someone for a second if he starts claiming he received a new Doctrine from God.

I am glad you have that perspective.

Rachel and Random Phrase were belly-aching about Latter-day prophets not having more revelations and prophecies for the saints, which is why I said, “Jesus Christ will not reveal more to the saints until they start living according to that which He has already revealed.”

When you that “God has revealed more to Saints,” I thought you were trying to say that He has revealed more than He what He revealed through His Latter-day prophets.

More saints need to get a revelation that Jesus Christ leads His Church through His prophet on the earth, and they need to get a revelation that the prophet chosen by Jesus Christ Himself will always lead the Church according to the direction that Jesus Christ gives him.

[rewcox]

I know that, and don't disagree with a single thing you say.

What is Doctrine? What does it mean to claim to receive Doctrine from God?

Stating " there will be an earthquake" Is not doctrine, it's not claiming to receive doctrine.

Stating " God told me that Gays can be sealed for eternity" Would be claiming doctrine.

When I say that God has revealed more to Saints, it isn't new doctrine. It's only revelations of Doctrine that he's already revealed. The ministring of Angels, Second Comforter etc. The Saints who receive these things are mocked by many mormons. That's what I meant.

I won't defend someone for a second if he starts claiming he received a new Doctrine from God.

Here is some doctrine:
25 How oft have I called upon you by the mouth of my servants, and by the ministering of angels, and by mine own voice, and by the voice of thunderings, and by the voice of lightnings, and by the voice of tempests, and by the voice of earthquakes, and great hailstorms, and by the voice of famines and pestilences of every kind, and by the great sound of a trump, and by the voice of judgment, and by the voice of mercy all the day long, and by the voice of glory and honor and the riches of eternal life, and would have saved you with an everlasting salvation, but ye would not!

[Robert Sinclair]

This is the pure doctrine of Christ-----

"Be equal in your temporal things and this not grudgingly."♡

"But ye would not!"

Please return to keep this doctrine and law.♡

[Zathura]

Rachel and Random Phrase were belly-aching about Latter-day prophets not having more revelations and prophecies for the saints, which is why I said, “Jesus Christ will not reveal more to the saints until they start living according to that which He has already revealed.”

When you that “God has revealed more to Saints,” I thought you were trying to say that He has revealed more than He what He revealed through His Latter-day prophets.

More saints need to get a revelation that Jesus Christ leads His Church through His prophet on the earth, and they need to get a revelation that the prophet chosen by Jesus Christ Himself will always lead the Church according to the direction that Jesus Christ gives him.

Glad we're on the same page now

[Robert Sinclair]

This is the pure doctrine of Christ-----

"Be equal in your temporal things and this not grudgingly."♡

"But ye would not!"

Please return to keep this doctrine and law.♡

A wise thing to do.♡

[Rachael]

And nobody answered... So just a bump.
I'm a member and I would also like to know

[Zathura]

And nobody answered... So just a bump.
I'm a member and I would also like to know

Know what?

[Rachael]

Why this phone glitched and did not post the quote... So I will leave it alone with unless someone else wants to ressucitate this thread.
I don't know if the op is still here or not anyway. My phone brought me to this thread from using the history on the browser. I just noticed its old. Sorry y'all. Maybe why it didn't post the quote

[kennyhs]

Many claim to be prohets, is there only 1 true prophet?
This subject is confusing. I have received revelations, usually occurring in a dream. Are these only for me, or am I to share them with others, particularly is they r a warning.

[rewcox]

Elder Renlund:

With all my heart I want to be a true follower of Jesus Christ.7 I love Him. I adore Him. I witness of His living reality. I witness that He is the Anointed One, the Messiah. I am a witness of His incomparable mercy, compassion, and love. I add my testimony to that of the Apostles who, in the year 2000, stated “that Jesus is the Living Christ, the immortal Son of God. … He is the light, the life, and the hope of the world.”8

I testify that on a day in 1820 in a grove in upstate New York, the risen Lord appeared, along with God, our Heavenly Father, to the Prophet Joseph Smith, just as Joseph Smith said They did. Priesthood keys are on earth today to enable saving and exalting ordinances. I know it. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

[Robert Sinclair]

Good to use the "keys" given, to unlock the doors, let the bride out of the closet, that the bridegroom may come forth saying, "Here I am".♡