TRUMP.

[samizdat]

samizdat, you are fond of thowing around the word "racist" as if it is a derogatory term, what is the meaning of this word to you?
There are differences between races, and all are entitled to prefer their own race.

A racist is one that treats people with different cultures as inferior to the culture of the racist. It can also include the color of skin or religious practices.

Trump's commentaries about Mexicans and now Muslims are definitely racist in nature, bred of an absolute ignorance of both cultures and like Hitler before him, show the use of the Big Lie to deceive the masses.

The prophets have said yes to the refugees. They just said no to Trump's divisive rhetoric that is nothing more nor less than attacks on religious freedom.

Another thing that I have yet to see on this board is anyone that might think that Trump might be behind these attacks. The media go out against Trump and yet publicise him which happens to be Trump's strong suit.

Trump calls the Mexicans what he calles them. Condemnation. One week later the SFO incident of horrible murder committed by an illegal. Highly publicised.

Two shooting attacks by Muslims. Trump says ban them all.

He's got money and goods to get it done. He is rising Exactly like Hitler and is serious bombing away from winning the presidency.

#feardom #dumptrump

[Serragon]

samizdat, you are fond of thowing around the word "racist" as if it is a derogatory term, what is the meaning of this word to you?
There are differences between races, and all are entitled to prefer their own race.

A racist is one that treats people with different cultures as inferior to the culture of the racist. It can also include the color of skin or religious practices.

Trump's commentaries about Mexicans and now Muslims are definitely racist in nature, bred of an absolute ignorance of both cultures and like Hitler before him, show the use of the Big Lie to deceive the masses.

The prophets have said yes to the refugees. They just said no to Trump's divisive rhetoric that is nothing more nor less than attacks on religious freedom.

Another thing that I have yet to see on this board is anyone that might think that Trump might be behind these attacks. The media go out against Trump and yet publicise him which happens to be Trump's strong suit.

Trump calls the Mexicans what he calles them. Condemnation. One week later the SFO incident of horrible murder committed by an illegal. Highly publicised.

Two shooting attacks by Muslims. Trump says ban them all.

He's got money and goods to get it done. He is rising Exactly like Hitler and is serious bombing away from winning the presidency.

#feardom #dumptrump

Your definition of racism means that everyone in the world is a racist. Well done. I have yet to meet anyone who doesn't find one culture superior to others. It is not always their native culture.

Your idea that Trump is behind these incidents is pure lunacy. Equating him to Hitler shows your own ignorance.

[samizdat]

I understand that Boris Johnson, Mayor of London, has said that there are some parts of New York he wouldn't go to, for fear of meeting Donald Trump. =))

He also said "When Donald Trump says there are parts of London that are 'no go' areas, I think he's betraying a stupefying ignorance that makes him frankly unfit to hold the office of President of the United States".

Well said Boris.

Well said Robin Hood.

Trump is a racist that must be stopped.

It appears that your mayor is an ignoramus, as the police who are supposed to go there are the ones saying they can't go there... at least not as police. They also say that they have to ask permission from the Muslim leaders of the communities before they can actually patrol those areas.

Not to mention that you just had a rape and sex slave ring involving more than 1400 underage British girls run by .... Muslims. And the authorities in Rotheram admitted they knew about it but didn't do anything because they didn't want to appear racist. Young girls passed around to hundreds of men over multiple years just because the authorities couldn't or wouldn't deal with reality. How many more people need to be sacrficed at the altars of the pathetic religion of political correctness?

I could just as easily show you Christians running brothels thru Eastern Europe and Latin America clear thru the USA. Or other groups doing this in east Asia. Not to lessen what this group of Muslims did, but to show you that there are bad people everywhere.

In both cases, Trump has spoken the truth. In both cases, he is being villified.. not becausue he is wrong, but because you don't want the message to be true. You'd rather cling to your PC fantasyland than actually deal with reality.

Not all cultures are equal. Not all immigrants are nice. Not all religions are peaceful.

Trump is speaking truth laced in a huge lie. Just like Göbbels and Hitler.

The problem with linear based cultures is their pride in that the more extreme elements of it lead to racism and wholesale slaughter or segregation of those cultures considered inferior.

Islam was FAR more peaceful than Christianity even 500 years ago. They were the center of learning. The first four universities in the world were formed in the Islamic world. Al Azhar still stands today.

What made Islam violent? The western nations divided up their lands after swearing to them that they would keep them. The worst thing you can do to an Arab is to betray their trust. When have you heard of a Muslim attacking a Latin American target?

When you can find me the answer to the last question we will discuss it some more.

And yes, I have a feeling that Trump is secretly moving things behind the scenes and we are thisclose to an American Reichstag moment

[David13]

What made Islam violent?

Are you serious with that? The victim is responsible for the crime? The victim caused the crime of robbery because he had too much money? The rape victim caused the rape because she was sexually attractive? You are living in fantasy.

Islam is the only thing that CAN make Islam violent. You are nuts if you say "it's society's fault".

It is solely and 100% the criminals fault. He is 100% responsible for his actions, and there is NO exception in that rule for Islam pursuant to any politically correct fantasy.
dc

[Serragon]

Not to mention that you just had a rape and sex slave ring involving more than 1400 underage British girls run by .... Muslims. And the authorities in Rotheram admitted they knew about it but didn't do anything because they didn't want to appear racist. Young girls passed around to hundreds of men over multiple years just because the authorities couldn't or wouldn't deal with reality. How many more people need to be sacrficed at the altars of the pathetic religion of political correctness?

I could just as easily show you Christians running brothels thru Eastern Europe and Latin America clear thru the USA. Or other groups doing this in east Asia. Not to lessen what this group of Muslims did, but to show you that there are bad people everywhere.

You can't show me a group of individuals who are running a sex trafficking ring where the factor of association is being Christian.

And running a brothel is not even in the same league as running a trafficking ring.

Trying to equate "everybody does bad things" to organized crime is idiotic. People form associations based upon race, culture, and religion. Some of these associations are for criminal purposes. The italian mafia was associated around being Italian. These traffickers were associating by being Muslim. This isn't rocket science.

The way you draw moral equavilence for the Muslims, then equate Trump with Hitler is breathtaking.

He's right. You're wrong.

[kennyhs]

[Serragon]

Islam was FAR more peaceful than Christianity even 500 years ago. They were the center of learning. The first four universities in the world were formed in the Islamic world. Al Azhar still stands today.

What made Islam violent?

So you admit that Islam has been violent for the last 500 years. You do realize that you have just proven Trump correct, right?

[OCDMOM]

If you support the Donald, you might want to goggle some of his past statements. I remember he hated Bush, called him a disaster. Called the Iraq war a disaster. Said if he was going to run, he would run for the GOP because Republicans are stupid. Called Obama a Champion who saved us from a depression. Said he would have Oprah as his VP. He has donated Millions to the Clinton foundation.

[Serragon]

If you support the Donald, you might want to goggle some of his past statements. I remember he hated Bush, called him a disaster. Called the Iraq war a disaster. Said if he was going to run, he would run for the GOP because Republicans are stupid. Called Obama a Champion who saved us from a depression. Said he would have Oprah as his VP. He has donated Millions to the Clinton foundation.

I don't support him at all. I actually can't stand him for many of the reasons you state. He is a democrat in republican clothing.

But his true statements need to be defended from the disciples of Political Correctness.

[kennyhs]

If you support the Donald, you might want to goggle some of his past statements. I remember he hated Bush, called him a disaster. Called the Iraq war a disaster. Said if he was going to run, he would run for the GOP because Republicans are stupid. Called Obama a Champion who saved us from a depression. Said he would have Oprah as his VP. He has donated Millions to the Clinton foundation.

Don't care, anything is better than what we've got! The voters have " S" stamped on their forehead, they voted in the worst president in history, twice. Unbelievable how gullible the American people are. I like what Trump promotes, the GOP is belittling him every chance they get, why, because he threatens their party. Neither the democrats nor republican's have the best interest of this country in mind. A Trump presidency wouldn't be so bad, not so bad at all.

[light-one]

The thing about Trump that really scares the liberals is that he tells the truth. That hasn't happened for a very long time. William Casey, CIA Director 1981 said "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."

As far as racism goes, human breeds, like dog breeds, are different. People have no trouble understanding that the ability of specific dog breeds is genetic. But, state that Orientals are the most intelligent or Blacks the least, and someone shouts racist, even though both statements are proven. Even if individually a Black may be more intelligent than an Oriental. Try explaining to an Alaskan Husky owner that a Poodle is equal.

Trump does not depend on special interest money to tell him what his opinion is.

Why does an Englishman and a Mexican feel they have superior knowledge about living in the U.S. when neither does?

[Original_Intent]

The best thing about Trump is that the GOP establishment hates him, AND unlike Ron Paul, he has a big enough following that when he exposes their backroom deals to beat him in a brokered convention, it will capture the attention of Americanus Ignoramus.

Aside from that, he'd be a disataster as president. If anyone could wipe out the few crumbs of freedom that Obama has left us, it's this egotistical blowhard.

[samizdat]

Islam was FAR more peaceful than Christianity even 500 years ago. They were the center of learning. The first four universities in the world were formed in the Islamic world. Al Azhar still stands today.

What made Islam violent?

So you admit that Islam has been violent for the last 500 years. You do realize that you have just proven Trump correct, right?

No. I didn't admit that Islam has been violent for the last 500 years. You conveniently ignored the rest of my post. Islam has been angry at the Western countries for their repeated betrayals after the last ONE HUNDRED YEARS. And yet this same anger doesn't display itself against other countries in the world...think Latin America (where they have never attacked specific Latin American interest sites).

Once Mexico is attacked by them we would unite behind our banner against them. But until we are attacked by them. Not a moment sooner, nor later.

[samizdat]

The thing about Trump that really scares the liberals is that he tells the truth. That hasn't happened for a very long time. William Casey, CIA Director 1981 said "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."

As far as racism goes, human breeds, like dog breeds, are different. People have no trouble understanding that the ability of specific dog breeds is genetic. But, state that Orientals are the most intelligent or Blacks the least, and someone shouts racist, even though both statements are proven. Even if individually a Black may be more intelligent than an Oriental. Try explaining to an Alaskan Husky owner that a Poodle is equal.

Trump does not depend on special interest money to tell him what his opinion is.

Why does an Englishman and a Mexican feel they have superior knowledge about living in the U.S. when neither does?

CFR (Call for Reference)

[Elizabeth]

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“The left-wing liars at CNN have intentionally edited the video to make it look as though Trump said ‘absolutely’ to a Muslim registry:

Reporter: Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims who are in this country?

Trump: There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems, and today you can do it. But right now we need to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.

Reporter: Is that something your White House would like to implement?

Donald Trump: I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.

“Trump’s “absolutely” is clearly in reference to strengthening the border. Look at the whole transcript. When the NBC News reporter asks, “Is that something your White House would like to implement?,” Trump has just talked about fortifying the border and obviously believes that is what the NBC reporter is referring to.”
By editing the extra language from the verbal exchange, CNN was trying to influence what the viewer believes about Trump. This isn’t an innocent mistake while trying to edit for brevity while retaining the point originally being made. This is deceit."

[skmo]

Trump currently has support because people have lost confidence in political players.

Oh, no, that's not the main reason. It's an underlying one for most politicians, but no more for Trump than anyone else.

Trump has support for the same reason that Rev. Moon, Jim Jones, and Al Sharpton do: If you say ridiculous things and act with over-the-top lunacy, you're going to always have a small but vocal following. Why is it such a focus? Not because he has broad appeal, but because he's good copy. He's so buffoon-ish that he makes himself newsworthy. Similar to Con-yea or any of the Cardashyuns, but without the sleaze. Well, without most of it, anyway.

[skmo]

Trump is the answer to what ails America, simply because he kills two birds with one stone.
America has two big problems. America is under attack by a vicious one-two combination. America has been ruined by two parties. And Trump’s mouth solves both problems.

It's kind of like saying "In America, obesity and cancer are the two largest causes of death. The solution to both of those problems is to give everyone cyanide so no one has to die from cancer any more.

As a metaphor goes, likening Trump to cyanide is fairly apt. In very small doses and for very specific uses, cyanide is quite useful. However, when a great deal of it is given to people, they die from exposure.

Apt.

[skmo]

Although “the Donald” could have made his point in a gentler manner ....Trump is certainly onto something.

He certainly is.

The Ku Klux Klan is using Donald Trump as a talking point in its outreach efforts.

“Heil Donald Trump — THE ULTIMATE SAVIOR,” Andrew Anglin, the 30-year-old publisher of the neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer wrote on Monday

[skmo]

Wow Elizabeth! Who is this guy?

Well, historically he's been one of America's favorite clowns, because while he's shown great business acumen (which has led him to file for bankruptcy 4 [FOUR] times) he's also been content to play an outrageous caricature of himself in the public eye. Unfortunately, he's started taking himself more seriously, which, unfortunately has led others to do the same.

The short answer is that Trump is still one of America's favorite clowns.

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[skmo]

I'm absolutely loving The Donald at the moment.

Of course you are. As our Northern cousin, no doubt you welcome anything to keep us looking like buffoons. I'm sorry to say we give you no shortage of material.

Many might not agree with Trump but at least he is showing he is different than the politicians in the USA and isn't afraid to say what he thinks. show that he doesn't think.

Fixed it for you.

I'd rather see Trump become president than yet another Bush or Clinton.

Way to set the bar. That's like saying you'd rather see Idi Amin Dada as the head of Israeli Security than Heinrich Himmler. I'd rather see that 19 year old kid who got elected mayor of Muskogee, OK than another Bush or Clinton.

[skmo]

It can also include the color of skin or religious practices.

It can include color of skin as this is one defining characteristic of racial difference. It cannot be based on religious practices. Racism is based on race. Because of the predominance of Muslim extremists being Arab or Persian, the term "racism" gets interchangeably used to describe a prejudice against Muslims, but it is an incorrect use of a word. Trump's comments about Mexico are racist and inflammatory. His comments about Muslims are also inflammatory but they're religiously prejudicial, not racist.

[Matchmaker]

Trump is not going to get the nomination, so there is 0 chance he will become President. I still believe we haven't heard the last from Mitt Romney.

[Elizabeth]

I still believe we haven't heard the last from Mitt Romney.

[skmo]

samizdat, you are fond of thowing around the word "racist" as if it is a derogatory term,

Its general usage is as a derogatory word. In reasoned and mature discussions, race, and the differences between them can be studied honestly without things being ignorantly judgmental. However, normally it is meant to imply a negative connotation.

There are differences between races, and all are entitled to prefer their own race.

True, but for public figures, perception becomes reality. Trump said the things here knowing they'd have a social impact.

[skmo]

Your definition of racism means that everyone in the world is a racist. Well done. I have yet to meet anyone who doesn't find one culture superior to others. It is not always their native culture.

Your circle of experience is smaller than some others. I have met many who don't believe one is superior over another. This is different than finding examples of cultural idiosyncrasies that may be harmful. However, as a teacher I've met quite a few who believe that multi-culturalism is a great thing. I believe this notion to be a bunch of hooey, but there are many who embrace it.

Your idea that Trump is behind these incidents is pure lunacy. Equating him to Hitler shows your own ignorance.

Actions like this are consistent with Trump's megalomaniac behavior in the past. Godwin's Law is superceded if it is valid, the "law" is only effective if a false comparison is made. Cmoparing Trump's actions does not mean Trump will take the same path as Hitler, just that some of his tools are similar to Hitler's.