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"THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
OFFICE OF THE FIRST PRESIDENCY
47 EAST SOUTH TEMPLE STREET, SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH 84150-1200
June 29, 2015
TO: General Authorities; General Auxiliary Presidencies; and the following leaders in the United States and Canada: Area Seventies; Temple, Stake Mission and District Presidencies; Bishops and Branch Presidents

Dear Brethren and Sisters:

Enclosed is a statement by the Council of the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve in response to the recent Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage in the United States. The statement also pertains to the situation in Canada. Local leaders are asked to meet with all adults, young men, and young women on either July 5 or July 12 in a setting other than sacrament meeting and read to them the entire statement.

Also included is background material which may be helpful in answering questions that arise.

Stake presidents are asked to see that bishops receive copies of this letter and the enclosures.

Sincerely yours,

Thomas S. Monson

Henry B. Eyring

Dieter F. Uchtdorf


RESPONSE TO THE SUPREME COURT DECISION LEGALIZING SAME‐SEX MARRIAGE IN THE UNITED STATES
June 29, 2015
Because of the recent decision of the United States Supreme Court and similar legal proceedings and legislative actions in a number of countries that have given civil recognition to same‐sex marriage relationships, the Council of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter‐day Saints restates and reaffirms the doctrinal foundation of Church teachings on morality, marriage, and the family. As we do, we encourage all to consider these teachings in the context of the Plan of Salvation and our Heavenly Father’s purposes in creating the earth and providing for our mortal birth and experience here as His children.

Marriage between a man and a woman was instituted by God and is central to His plan for His children and for the well‐being of society. “God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth” (Genesis 1:27‐28). “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh” (Genesis 2:24). Strong families, guided by a loving mother and father, serve as the fundamental institution for nurturing children, instilling faith, and transmitting to future generations the moral strengths and values that are important to civilization and vital to eternal salvation.

A family built on marriage of a man and a woman is the best setting for God’s plan of happiness to thrive. That is why communities and nations generally have encouraged and protected marriage between a man and a woman, and the family that results from their union, as privileged institutions. Sexual relations outside of such a marriage are contrary to the laws of God pertaining to morality.

Changes in the civil law do not, indeed cannot, change the moral law that God has established. God expects us to uphold and keep His commandments regardless of divergent opinions or trends in society. His law of chastity is clear: sexual relations are proper only between a man and a woman who are legally and lawfully wedded as husband and wife. We invite all to review and understand the doctrine contained in “The Family: A Proclamation to the World.”

Consistent with our fundamental beliefs, Church officers will not employ their ecclesiastical authority to perform marriages between two people of the same sex, and the Church does not permit its meetinghouses or other properties to be used for ceremonies, receptions, or other activities associated with same‐sex marriages. Nevertheless, all visitors are welcome to our chapels and premises so long as they respect our standards of conduct while there.

The gospel of Jesus Christ teaches us to love and treat all people with kindness and civility—even when we disagree. We affirm that those who avail themselves of laws or court rulings authorizing same‐sex marriage should not be treated disrespectfully. Indeed, the Church has advocated for rights of same‐sex couples in matters of hospitalization and medical care, fair housing and employment, and probate, so long as these do not infringe on the integrity of the traditional family or the constitutional rights of churches.

The Church insists on its leaders’ and members’ right to express and advocate religious convictions on marriage, family, and morality free from retaliation or retribution. The Church is also entitled to maintain its standards of moral conduct and good standing for members.

As members of the Church, we are responsible to teach the gospel of Jesus Christ and to illuminate the great blessings that flow from heeding God’s commandments as well as the inevitable consequences of ignoring them. We invite all to pray that people everywhere will have their hearts softened to the truths God established in the beginning, and that wisdom will be granted to those who are called upon to decide issues critical to society’s future.

THE COUNCIL OF
THE FIRST PRESIDENCY AND
QUORUM OF THE TWELVE APOSTLES
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER‐DAY SAINTS

Background Material for Bishops and Branch Presidents
On the U.S. Supreme Court Decision on Same‐sex Marriage
The Church has provided a statement dated June 29, 2015, prepared by the Council of the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles regarding the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision legalizing same‐sex marriage in the United States. The response reaffirms the divinely‐revealed reasons and proper doctrinal context for the Church’s unequivocal position regarding matters of morality, chastity, marriage, and the family. As the response notes, the Church’s teachings on these subjects are grounded in the scriptural declarations of God’s eternal plan for the salvation and exaltation of His children and are framed in “The Family: A Proclamation to the World.” While the statement stands on its own, below is additional information that may be helpful to you in responding to questions that may arise.

For much of human history, civil laws have generally been compatible with God’s laws. Unfortunately, there have been notable exceptions to that pattern. For example, it is legal in the United States to perform an abortion on an unborn fetus. However, this practice is not morally acceptable before God. (See Handbook 1, 17.3). The consumption of alcohol, while contrary to God’s law, is legal in most nations of the world, but the physical and social toll for doing so is a painful matter of record. So, too, with issues of unchaste sexual behavior, whether it be heterosexual or homosexual in its orientation. As the First Presidency has previously said and as this current response affirms, “Changes in the civil law do not, indeed cannot, change the moral law that God has established. God expects us to uphold and keep His commandments regardless of divergent opinions or trends in society” (First Presidency letter on “Same‐ Sex Marriage,” January 9, 2014).

What is the Church’s Policy on Homosexual Relations?

“Homosexual behavior violates the commandments of God, is contrary to the purposes of human sexuality, and deprives people of the blessings that can be found in family life and in the saving ordinances of the gospel. Those who persist in such behavior or who influence others to do so are subject to Church discipline. Homosexual behavior can be forgiven through sincere repentance. “If members engage in homosexual behavior, Church leaders should help them have a clear understanding of faith in Jesus Christ, the process of repentance, and the purpose of life on earth.

“While opposing homosexual behavior, the Church reaches out with understanding and respect to individuals who are attracted to those of the same gender. “If members feel same‐gender attraction but do not engage in any homosexual behavior, leaders should support and encourage them in their resolve to live the law of chastity and to control unrighteous thoughts. These members may receive Church callings. If they are worthy and qualified in every other way, they may also hold temple recommends and receive temple ordinances” (Handbook 2, 21.4.6).

Does the authorization of same‐sex marriage affect my right to religious freedom?

Our individual right to religious freedom is protected by the First Amendment to the United States’ Constitution and by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. As we exercise that right, we must also exercise tolerance and respect toward others’ rights but do so without condoning behavior that goes contrary to the laws of God. “While we strive for the virtue of tolerance, other commendable qualities need not be lost. Tolerance does not require the surrender of noble purpose or of individual identity. The Lord gave instruction to leaders of His restored Church to establish and maintain institutional integrity—‘that the Church may stand independent’ (D&C 78:14)” (Elder Russell M. Nelson, “Teach Us Tolerance and Love,” April 1994 general conference). How do I respond respectfully to those who consider the Church’s position on this matter unchristian? Our objection to same‐sex marriage is not based on animosity toward anyone, but on our understanding of God’s purposes for His children. For us, the issues are not simply “tolerance” and “equality.” The issues are the nature of marriage and the consequences of redefining a divinely established institution. In addition, redefining marriage in the law can have profound consequences for society, particularly for children. Mothers and fathers matter, and they are not interchangeable. “On the subject of public discourse, we should all follow the gospel teachings to love our neighbor and avoid contention. Followers of Christ should be examples of civility. We should . . . be good listeners and show concern for the sincere belief [of others.] Though we may disagree, we should not be disagreeable. We should be wise in explaining our position and, in doing so, ask that others not be offended by our sincere religious beliefs and the free exercise of our religion” (Elder Dallin H. Oaks, “Loving Others and Living with Differences,” October 2014 general conference).

What if I have reservations of my own regarding the Church’s position on this subject?

“Members who . . . have doctrinal questions should make a diligent effort, including earnest prayer and scripture study, to find solutions and answers themselves. Church members are encouraged to seek guidance from the Holy Ghost to help them in their personal lives and in family and Church responsibilities.

“If members still need help, they should counsel first with their bishop. If necessary, he may refer them to the stake president. “. . . Stake presidents who need clarification about doctrinal or other Church matters may write in behalf of their members to the First Presidency” (Handbook 2, 21.1.24)."

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Good points about respecting the differences, I think this is where even members fail at times.

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Is this letter actually real? If so it could rattle quite a few members. Not one Adult mentioned the Supreme Court decision on Sumday, with the exception of the Bishop reading the statement the Church released on Friday just before closing prayer of Sacrament(our last meeting of the day). However, my son was appalled at the priest quorum and their celebration of the decision.........he got a bad taste in his mouth the first day in a new Ward.
I feel that we might lose some membership over this...............

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idahommie wrote:Is this letter actually real?
It is real.
Joel wrote: LDS Newsroom has now published the letter and it is now available for download

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Joel wrote:
idahommie wrote:Is this letter actually real?
It is real.
Joel wrote: LDS Newsroom has now published the letter and it is now available for download
Thanks Joel- I was just about to post the link myself.

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karend77 wrote:
Joel wrote:
idahommie wrote:Is this letter actually real?
It is real.
Joel wrote: LDS Newsroom has now published the letter and it is now available for download
Thanks Joel- I was just about to post the link myself.

You are welcome karend77 :)

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idahommie wrote:Is this letter actually real? Yes
If so it could rattle quite a few members. I agree, but am curious in what ways you believe it might do this? What, specifically, in the letter makes you think this?
I feel that we might lose some membership over this.....Very likely

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idahommie wrote:Is this letter actually real? If so it could rattle quite a few members. Not one Adult mentioned the Supreme Court decision on Sumday, with the exception of the Bishop reading the statement the Church released on Friday just before closing prayer of Sacrament(our last meeting of the day). However, my son was appalled at the priest quorum and their celebration of the decision.........he got a bad taste in his mouth the first day in a new Ward.
I feel that we might lose some membership over this...............
On one hand, you must understand that teenagers are ignorant and naive, and many value their perception to their peers over their own integrity. They usually grow out of it.

It is a reflection on their parents that priests ordained to the priesthood would praise the supreme court decision in church. Their parents should have been very clear that this is NOT good and explained why. If their parents don't know, then they are at fault for being ignorant themselves.

I see young family members, cousins, liking posts from their atheist friends on Facebook with messages like "If you don't support gay marriage, I have absolutely no respect for you." And all the comments bandwagon the sentiment because she is the "popular hot girl" at school. Yet, I know that this particular instance that my cousin does not support gay marriage. He just wanted to be seen liking the post to "save face" to his peers, for whatever misguided reason.


As far as losing membership, the sifting of the wheat and the tares is an ongoing process. As the world continues to mock from the great and spacious building, some will become ashamed (or even agree with the criticism) and let go of the iron rod and drift off into the mist of darkness or even join in the great and spacious building and join in the mocking.

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Mark if you will permit a light diversion to answer a genuine question. If plural marriage became legal do you think the church would permit sealing in the temple for multiple spouse?. If not why not ?

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For the first time ever, the LDS Church has given a donation to the Utah Pride Center

SALT LAKE CITY — For the first time ever, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has donated to the Utah Pride Center.

The LDS Church quietly made a $2,500 donation to the non-profit Utah Pride Center to help its efforts with LGBT homeless and youth. The money, coming in the form of access to the Bishop’s Storehouse, will provide food for those in need, the Utah Pride Center told FOX 13.

In a grant letter, the LDS Church wrote: “We are grateful to be able to serve your efforts in this worthy project and appreciate the work that you and others are doing related to this initiative.”

The LDS Church declined to comment beyond what it wrote in that letter, a spokesman told FOX 13.

Members of the Utah Pride Center were thrilled with the donation.

“The Utah Pride Center is grateful for the church’s help in our efforts to provide food for those in our community who are in need,” said the center’s board president, Kent Frogley, in a statement. “We are grateful for their generosity and the emerging relationship with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We know that this contribution marks a significant moment in the LDS/LGBTQ relationship.”

The LGBT community and the Mormon Church have not always seen eye-to-eye. In the aftermath of the LDS Church’s support of California’s Proposition 8 (which banned same-sex marriage in that state), the Utah Pride Center was involved in discussions about bridging divides and finding common ground.

The LDS Church remains vocal in its opposition to same-sex marriage, but lent its support to a non-discrimination law in the Utah State Legislature that offered protections for LGBT people in housing and employment.
The money came from profits made at City Creek Mall and not Tithing.....just kidding! I was speaking as a man and not as a profit prophet :))

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Joel, you're fetching HILARIOUS!

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Huffington Post has an article written by an LDS mother of 5 who seems to fault the official statement above...entitled "COULD God Be Gay?"

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Tabula Rasa wrote:
idahommie wrote:Is this letter actually real? Yes
If so it could rattle quite a few members. I agree, but am curious in what ways you believe it might do this? What, specifically, in the letter makes you think this?
I feel that we might lose some membership over this.....Very likely
We just left a ward in which a teen girl had become quite vocal and open, about her homosexuality, she was even bringing her "girlfriends" to mutual. The response from our leadership was to not give lessons that would talk of her actions being a sin. I know that she was told that her actions would not be tolerated AT church, but this was lip service, by the time we left, very few girls were attending mutual, my daughter would go, as I had group leadership meeting on that night, but she would take the young kids of the leaders and babysit, it was sad to see. I'm glad I'm not in that Ward of the bishop follows thru with reading this letter to that Ward. That family will come unglued if present, and they usually do attend. Why must we be so worried about offending someone that we give up supporting BASIC Gospel principals.
I was released as a Sunday school teacher after teaching a lesson and talking about morality,
maybe I should have refrained, but felt as though it needed doing. I have seen many return missionaries "liking" on Facebook, I'm concerned. I'm not perfect, I have my sins, but I know and acknowledge that that are in fact, sins.........

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The money came from profits made at City Creek Mall and not Tithing.....just kidding! I was speaking as a man and not as a profit prophet :))
Do you have a problem with the church helping those in need, whether they are gay or straight? It seems like maybe you were trying to cause mischief, thinking LDS members would be upset that the church donated?? But, consider the story of the Good Samaritan and I think you'll realize that LDS acknowledge their 'neighbor' includes all people in need. If the pride center is trying to help LGBTQA homeless, the church has my full support, donating to their efforts and I expect LDS who are trying to follow the example of the Savior, would agree.

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