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This article documents Jon Huntsman Jrs connection to the NWO and why we should be weary about his current employment

You all probably have a one up on me. I don't live in UT or thereabouts, so know nothing of the Huntsman's with the exception of seeing the father on Glenn Beck once. The father seemed like a good, honest man.

How do you know for certain that Huntsman, Jr. is involved in this stuff? Sometimes people can know & even associate with someone through business & such, but it doesn't mean they are corrupt. It doesn't mean you agree with that persons political ideas & such.

I understand his father is a good, LDS man. I thought John Huntsman, Jr. was as well.

Deborah wrote:You all probably have a one up on me. I don't live in UT or thereabouts, so know nothing of the Huntsman's with the exception of seeing the father on Glenn Beck once. The father seemed like a good, honest man.

How do you know for certain that Huntsman, Jr. is involved in this stuff? Sometimes people can know & even associate with someone through business & such, but it doesn't mean they are corrupt. It doesn't mean you agree with that persons political ideas & such.

I understand his father is a good, LDS man. I thought John Huntsman, Jr. was as well.

Jon Huntsman Jr. is not active in the church; he has put some distance between himself and the church, particularly in his bid for president in 2012.

You don't know this ... why start rumors.

This is old stuff now, but some of you may remember an old article for Time Magazine. Melinda Henneberger asked former Governor Huntsman if he “…still belongs to the Church of Latter-day Saints”, to which she received the veiled response: “I’m a very spiritual person” (as opposed to a religious one?), “and proud of my Mormon roots.” The columnist saw the vagueness of the answer and asked: “Roots? That makes it sound as if you’re not a member anymore. Are you?” Former Governor Huntsman’s reply was extremely revealing in its non-committal nature, “That’s tough to define,” he said. “There are varying degrees. I come from a long line of saloon keepers and proselytizers, and I draw from both sides.” It was tough to define whether he is a member or not. I thought it was kind of like being pregnant; either you are, or you’re not. Beliefs may vary, activeness may vary, but membership in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is pretty black and white.

Huntsman was not the only former governor to have trouble standing up for the tenants of the Gospel. In an interview, now long forgotten, 2008 presidential candidate Mitt Romney was asked how he would handle it if God were to speak to him or to “[his] prophet” and tell him to do something “in conflict with [his] duties as president”. Candidate Romney responded, “I don’t know that He’s spoken to anyone since, ah, Moses and the bush, or perhaps some others.” If he doesn’t know if God has spoken to anyone since Moses or PERHAPS others, this basically leaves two options available: 1. He is telling the truth and doesn’t know much about the religion he professes to be a part of.OR 2. He is too afraid to admit that he believes the Gospel.

And after speaking at BYU, In October of 2007, Nevada Senator, Harry Reid, had this to say about teachings of the Prophets in regards to agency and government welfare: “[T]hese people have taken members of the church down the path that is the wrong path.”
He was also well known for his opposition to the Church’s stance on California proposition 8.

AlbertaBronco wrote:You don't know this ... why start rumors.

This isn't about starting rumors. Read the article. Dots are connected and sources are documented.

Many Mormons cannot even consider the possibility that prominent members of the Church, although generally well-educated in some things, are, like most American LDS voters, uneducated or misinformed about the principles of the U.S. Constitution, and also about their divine mandate to learn, uphold, and abide by its principles. And they are also generally unaware of the conspiracy to convert the United States from a constitutional republic into a socialist dictatorship.

AlbertaBronco wrote:You don't know this ... why start rumors.

it is documented. No rumors, just documented facts., It would be good to read before commenting

The new apostle Elder Rasband worked for the Huntsman for 30 years. What think ye?

As a 70 he came to Denmark a couple of times in 2002 as my wife and I were on a couples mission there. He made a good impression on us in that capacity. Working for Huntsman and sharing his political persuasions are two different things.

I am wondering more and more if some of the apostles, although generally well-educated and accomplished in some things, are, like most American LDS voters, uneducated or misinformed about the principles of the U.S. Constitution, and also about their divine mandate to learn, uphold, and abide by its principles. And they are also generally unaware of the conspiracy to convert the United States from a constitutional republic into a socialist dictatorship.

Jon Huntsman Sr. is a very great man. He was my Stake President growing up. He was very inspired and recieved revelation and helped counsel several of my siblings in various things.

You can't judge a man based on his parents.

Brent Skowcroft is an admitted globalist.
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The Westphalia Peace following the 30-years war was a big step to securing freedom of religion in Europe thanks to the blood and sacrifice of the Moravians, Lutherans and Huguenots. Skowcroft calls the "Westphalia System" a disaster, and says that "we" have been primarily responsible for the "liberalization of the Westphalian System" in favor of gloabalism.

Skowcroft had the gall to say that "some people argue that the Westphalian System was responsible for WW1 and WW2"

As I believe American LDS voters looked at Jon Huntsman Jr. and at Mitt Romney as well for that matter, as candidates for U.S. President it seemed clear to me that both men were being judged by their track records in their successful professional lives and by their Church service in positions of leadership. They both seem to have been given high marks in those areas of their lives. But how did they stack up against the standards set by statements by the Lord, who established the Constitution of this land by the hands of wise men whom He raised up unto that very purpose ? How did the stack up against the standards expressed by latter-day prophets and apostles. Were either of them truly dedicated to the Constitution in the tradition of our Founding Fathers ? Did either of them indicate that they would permit any departure from the principles of government on which this nation was founded, or any disregard of the freedoms which, by the inspiration of God, were written into the Constitution of the United States ? Was there any evidence that either of them understand and would adhere to constitutional principles; are dedicated to the preservation of our Constitution, our American Republic, and responsible freedom under God ?

lundbaek wrote:Was there any evidence that either of them understand and would adhere to constitutional principles; are dedicated to the preservation of our Constitution, our American Republic, and responsible freedom under God ?

There was no evidence saying this. In fact, there was loads of evidence that neither of them would stand for correct principles. In fact, there was a history of standing for INCORRECT principles when it came to politics.

I know many people who said they personally knew Huntsman Jr. or Romney to be a good person, and that's all they needed to know. But that means nothing with politics, because we have discovered throughout the last century that people who keep their personal lives generally good still violate principles of good government. The fact that politically dangerous individuals are able to still be "good people" in their personal lives, makes them very dangerous for the cause of freedom because people are looking at the wrong thing when they judge a good candidate.

davedan wrote:Jon Huntsman Sr. is a very great man. He was my Stake President growing up. He was very inspired and recieved revelation and helped counsel several of my siblings in various things.

He was President of my mission. Great man, someone I have immense respect for. Jr. must be a real disappointment to his dad.

You can't judge a man based on his parents.

True. Sterling Allan is the son of David Allan, David was my Stake President who sent me on my mission. Wonderful man.