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Does anyone know if god has ever apologized for anything?
We all know we need to because we live in temporal world. God is a celestial being that I am assuming is still progressing in the celestial world. Even though he is way ahead of us he still interacts with us in our temporal existence.
So basically I was wondering if God ever made a mistake while interacting with us that may have caused him to ask us for forgiveness?
In much the same way a parent hear on earth may occasionally ask their child for forgiveness.

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Another thought. How would you feel if God came to you. Not anyone else but you and asked you to forgive him of something? How would you feel? How would you respond?

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FSM wrote:Does anyone know if god has ever apologized for anything?
We all know we need to because we live in temporal world. God is a celestial being that I am assuming is still progressing in the celestial world. Even though he is way ahead of us he still interacts with us in our temporal existence.
So basically I was wondering if God ever made a mistake while interacting with us that may have caused him to ask us for forgiveness?
In much the same way a parent hear on earth may occasionally ask their child for forgiveness.
As I understand from the Lecture's on Faith, we cannot hope to exercise faith in a God who does not possess the attribute of justice in perfection:
4:13 It is also necessary, in order to the exercise of faith in God, unto life and salvation, that men should have the idea of the existence of the attribute justice, in him. For without the idea of the existence of the attribute Justice, in the Deity, men could not have confidence sufficiently to place themselves under his guidance and direction; for they would be filled with fear and doubt, lest the Judge of all the earth would not do right; and thus fear, or doubt, existing in the mind, would preclude the possibility of the exercise of faith in him for life and salvation. But, when the idea of the existence of the attribute justice, in the Deity, is fairly planted in the mind, it leaves no room for doubt to get into the heart, and the mind is enabled to cast itself upon the Almighty without fear and without doubt, and with most unshaken confidence, believing that the Judge of all the earth will do right.
I can imagine that God would show his compassion by saying "sorry, it's the only way, to suffer as this", but I can't see him apologizing as if he could do something about it.

Also James 1:17:
Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.
FSM wrote:Another thought. How would you feel if God came to you. Not anyone else but you and asked you to forgive him of something? How would you feel? How would you respond?
I'm sorry, but I don't think this is possible. Again though, I could picture him professing a compassion to our suffering caused by the plan of salvation, but not apologizing for it.

Good questions though. Sometimes I need to remember these.

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Very productive Muerte Rosa, very good. =))

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God is perfect and cannot make mistakes, hence, no apology.

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Tony wrote:God is perfect and cannot make mistakes, hence, no apology.
Wasn't Michael the 3rd member of the Creation Godhead who came as Adam and transgressed and fell?

What if part of the terms and conditions of Adam being redeemed is to repent of what He did wrong?

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Well, if we believe Jesus to be the Son of God, the second member of the Godhead, would Jesus apologize if he accidently bumped into someone while walking through a bustling crowd of people?

Of course he would have.

This whole notion of being perfect needs to be seen as fully progressed, having done all as opposed to never having stepped on and killed an ant.

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jwharton wrote:Well, if we believe Jesus to be the Son of God, the second member of the Godhead, would Jesus apologize if he accidently bumped into someone while walking through a bustling crowd of people?

Of course he would have.

This whole notion of being perfect needs to be seen as fully progressed, having done all as opposed to never having stepped on and killed an ant.
Good point about Jesus in the crowd. If he didn't apologize for accidentally bumping someone it would not fit his character at all.
I really wished I could find some instances in the scriptures where God apologize for anything. But I can not think of any. This makes me wonder if we lack the autonomy to forgive a celestial being? Or have they list the autonomy to ask for our forgiveness.

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I am amazed at people on this site who get all twisted up about stupid ideas like this. There are important things to ponder and this isn't one of them.

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wildad wrote:I am amazed at people on this site who get all twisted up about stupid ideas like this. There are important things to ponder and this isn't one of them.
Since we are all on different journeys and have walked different paths, we have all progressed and have learned differently. This might be something others are curious about since they haven't yet learned it - though it might seem trivial and stupid to you. Maybe a better option for you, would be to go ponder those things you are interested in, and leave others alone to learn what they are pondering. Then you won't be burdening yourself with this stupidity, nor will we have to be bothered with the thing you clearly haven't overcome yet. :)

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I imagine God has apologized before. First, we believe that "as man is, God once was". So if he was a mortal like us, he certainly had life experiences like we all do, and grew up to become what he is now. I imagine he would have learned the arts of compassion and caring and repairing mistakes - that sometimes warrant apologies.

Also, I have been comforted by God in my life, and I've understood things like "I'm sorry this is so painful", so I suppose that could be an apology of sorts, but maybe not what you mean.

So my opinion is yes, I think he has. He probably doesn't have a whole lot to apologize for at this point though, he's grown up a lot from his days as a dumb mortal.

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wildad wrote:I am amazed at people on this site who get all twisted up about stupid ideas like this. There are important things to ponder and this isn't one of them.
Welcome to the forum wildad. I see that this is your 9th post. So welcome.

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But the question was, " Has God ever apologized," not " If" He apologized as a mortal.
As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is flawless.

As for God, his way is perfect: 2 Sam. 22:31
your Father which is in heaven is perfect: Matt. 5:48 . ( 3 Ne. 12:48 . )

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FSM wrote:Another thought. How would you feel if God came to you. Not anyone else but you and asked you to forgive him of something? How would you feel? How would you respond?
"Holy crap you're real!?... Well then I have a question or two... unless this is about that Platybelodon thing, then I totally get it!!"

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I say sorry for things which I'm not directly responsible for. From one angle you could view the atonement as one big apology for all the pains of this fallen world.

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Well, I guess apologizing means expressing regret about doing something wrong to someone. I wonder if God regretted sending the flood. He covenanted in the form of a rainbow that He wouldn't do it again.There are scriptures in the Bible where God repented of this or that, but I think that the original context is not what we may think. In any event, destroying the world by a flood of water is one thing. He will do it again by fire when He returns. I don't think God regrets creating this world or dying for us. I really don't see what He has to apologize for. Perhaps the OP feels that God has done something wrong for which an apology is owed.

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Jules wrote:
wildad wrote:I am amazed at people on this site who get all twisted up about stupid ideas like this. There are important things to ponder and this isn't one of them.
Since we are all on different journeys and have walked different paths, we have all progressed and have learned differently. This might be something others are curious about since they haven't yet learned it - though it might seem trivial and stupid to you. Maybe a better option for you, would be to go ponder those things you are interested in, and leave others alone to learn what they are pondering. Then you won't be burdening yourself with this stupidity, nor will we have to be bothered with the thing you clearly haven't overcome yet. :)

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marc wrote:. Perhaps the OP feels that God has done something wrong for which an apology is owed.
No not the case. IV just been wondering about this for a while.

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I wonder if we also help God progress? Those of us with Childers may can relate. Have we ever apologize to our children for anything? Sure we teach them as they grow, but have we ever come to the realization that our children are sometimes the teachers and we the progresses. No real need to answer this one. Its just something IV been pondering.

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FSM wrote:
jwharton wrote:Well, if we believe Jesus to be the Son of God, the second member of the Godhead, would Jesus apologize if he accidently bumped into someone while walking through a bustling crowd of people?

Of course he would have.

This whole notion of being perfect needs to be seen as fully progressed, having done all as opposed to never having stepped on and killed an ant.
Good point about Jesus in the crowd. If he didn't apologize for accidentally bumping someone it would not fit his character at all.
I really wished I could find some instances in the scriptures where God apologize for anything. But I can not think of any. This makes me wonder if we lack the autonomy to forgive a celestial being? Or have they list the autonomy to ask for our forgiveness.
Here's a thought.
God is love, right?
Does love ever need to apologize?
No, but those who have love in their hearts will most definitely apologize for things.

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Jules wrote:
wildad wrote:I am amazed at people on this site who get all twisted up about stupid ideas like this. There are important things to ponder and this isn't one of them.
Since we are all on different journeys and have walked different paths, we have all progressed and have learned differently. This might be something others are curious about since they haven't yet learned it - though it might seem trivial and stupid to you. Maybe a better option for you, would be to go ponder those things you are interested in, and leave others alone to learn what they are pondering. Then you won't be burdening yourself with this stupidity, nor will we have to be bothered with the thing you clearly haven't overcome yet. :)
One of the very most basic concepts of true religion is that God is infallible. If he is not we are all lost. What good does it do to bring up a question like Him apologizing? This is not a line of thought that will strengthen anybody and might well start the destruction of someone's testimony. There are some great discussions on this site but there are too many questions that seem to me to arise from a spirit of apostasy or blind wandering in directions that do not edify. This is one of them.

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In the classical sense of the word apology, yes, I believe God has apologized.
As the term is commonly used, no, that wouldn't make sense. If the question is asked in this sense, it is up there with "Can God create a rock that is too heavy for Him to lift?" and if that is the case, then I agree with wildad - it's a nonsensical question.

Then again, even a nonsensical question (known to Buddhists as a koan) can lead to enlightenment... :D

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wildad wrote:
Jules wrote:
wildad wrote:I am amazed at people on this site who get all twisted up about stupid ideas like this. There are important things to ponder and this isn't one of them.
Since we are all on different journeys and have walked different paths, we have all progressed and have learned differently. This might be something others are curious about since they haven't yet learned it - though it might seem trivial and stupid to you. Maybe a better option for you, would be to go ponder those things you are interested in, and leave others alone to learn what they are pondering. Then you won't be burdening yourself with this stupidity, nor will we have to be bothered with the thing you clearly haven't overcome yet. :)
One of the very most basic concepts of true religion is that God is infallible. If he is not we are all lost. What good does it do to bring up a question like Him apologizing? This is not a line of thought that will strengthen anybody and might well start the destruction of someone's testimony. There are some great discussions on this site but there are too many questions that seem to me to arise from a spirit of apostasy or blind wandering in directions that do not edify. This is one of them.
? This forum has opened my eyes to a belief in the gospel. IV been on the other side and I can promise you I do not want to see anyone apostatize. AA convictions are way to crowded as it is. There are so many things we can learn hear that there is just little time to discuss in a Sunday school class. So come join us.

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I had a Bishop (representative of the Lord) apologize to me once for something he had said about me to another in his confidential circle, which later turned out to be incorrect. Had he not brought this to my attention, I never would have known he had said it. His confession to me and subsequent apology surprised and humbled me considerably. This Bishop was the best Bishop I had ever had and one of the most humble. I still admire him to this day for his courage.

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Matchmaker wrote:I had a Bishop (representative of the Lord) apologize to me once for something he had said about me to another in his confidential circle, which later turned out to be incorrect. Had he not brought this to my attention, I never would have known he had said it. His confession to me and subsequent apology surprised and humbled me considerably. This Bishop was the best Bishop I had ever had and one of the most humble. I still admire him to this day for his courage.
This was a great bishop. It just feels better to have a friend like him to walk beside us in life. It is very hard to follow behind and in the same footsteps of a perfect being. As hard as I try there are those times when I just trip, fall down and become afraid to get back up.

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wildad wrote: One of the very most basic concepts of true religion is that God is infallible. If he is not we are all lost.
Why?

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