Inappropriate, but what about the actual message?

[Daryl]

I got this email today, the kind people pass around. I read the email then I watched the video - about 5 times.

The world begins to wake up. When the most liberal country in Europe pulls the plug on Islam, the world is beginning to see the light...WOW.

Queen Beatrix of The Netherland attended a concert in the capitol, The Hague. The Conductor, who just happens to be
Muslim, proceeds to give the Queen a lecture on the "beauty" of Islam.

The entire orchestra got up and walked out, refusing to be associated with someone lecturing their queen. Staff of the music hall escorted the conductor off-stage
and after questioning, out of the buiilding.

Now that took courage. Good for the people of Holland. Watch the walk out. Bet you didn't see this on your local news.

Yes, the man is being very inappropriate, but what about his message?
What about the actual words which he is saying?
He claims to be a servant messenger from God. What do you think?
Is it possible he was sent by God to call the queen to repentance?
Notice how he refers to himself as Christ? Is he claiming to have taken on the name of Christ, become Christ?


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[Robin Hood]

Just another nutcase.

[Phoenixstar117]

Interesting. No real opinion. Just interesting. It makes me ask more questions.

What was his goal in claiming to be Jesus Christ?
If he has such strong conviction, why isn't he a radical? Doesn't this show us that there are those of great conviction of Islam who don't have to use violence to forward their campaign? Rather, the verse he read spoke of charity.

[inho]

I first thought that people were applauding to him, but I guess they applauded to the men who came to get him. Although his performance was quite funny.

What was his goal in claiming to be Jesus Christ?
If he has such strong conviction, why isn't he a radical? Doesn't this show us that there are those of great conviction of Islam who don't have to use violence to forward their campaign? Rather, the verse he read spoke of charity.

I was thinking of that too. He claimed to be Jesus and he acted peacufully like Jesus.

[Phoenixstar117]

Perhaps then, he wasn't claiming to be Jesus himself, but coming in the name of Jesus? Or was he claiming to be coming in the name of Allah?

[Daryl]

Allah means God. We say God, they say Allah. Same being.

[Daryl]

Just another nutcase.

The Nephites thought Samuel on the wall was "just another nutcase" so they started shooting at him. Who were the real nutcases?

[Bee Prepared]

Just another nutcase.

The Nephites thought Samuel on the wall was "just another nutcase" so they started shooting at him. Who were the real nutcases?

Third Nephi;

22 And it came to pass that from this time forth there began to be lyings sent forth among the people, by Satan, to harden their hearts, to the intent that they might not believe in those signs and wonders which they had seen; but notwithstanding these lyings and deceivings the more part of the people did believe, and were converted unto the Lord.

23 And it came to pass that Nephi went forth among the people, and also many others, baptizing unto repentance, in the which there was a great remission of sins. And thus the people began again to have peace in the land.

[Phoenixstar117]

Allah means God. We say God, they say Allah. Same being.

I think most of know that the words are synonymous.

[Daryl]

Just another nutcase.

The Nephites thought Samuel on the wall was "just another nutcase" so they started shooting at him. Who were the real nutcases?

Third Nephi;

22 And it came to pass that from this time forth there began to be lyings sent forth among the people, by Satan, to harden their hearts, to the intent that they might not believe in those signs and wonders which they had seen; but notwithstanding these lyings and deceivings the more part of the people did believe, and were converted unto the Lord.

23 And it came to pass that Nephi went forth among the people, and also many others, baptizing unto repentance, in the which there was a great remission of sins. And thus the people began again to have peace in the land.

Thank you for posting a great scripture. I enjoy scriptures even if I fail to find the relevance to the current discussion.

[Bee Prepared]

Daryl, you mentioned " Samuel The Lamanite", wondering who the nutcases were. I was just trying to help you figure it out.
Sorry if it was irrelevant to the current discussion but I'm happy you enjoyed the scriptures!

[Epistemology]

Not all who cry repentance speak for God

[Rensai]

Not all who cry repentance speak for God

Maybe not, but even if God didn't give the order, chances are, crying repentance is what most of us need. Perhaps he was called of God, perhaps he is just trying not to be a slothful servant that must be commanded in all things. While I'm certainly no fan of Islam, it took a lot of conviction and sacrifice for him to do that. Very few people would be willing to make that sacrifice just for a chance to quote a few verses of scripture at the elite.

[Phoenixstar117]

It's more of a sacrifice than we realize. As conductor, he probably will never get that chance again because of what he did. So he preached while he could.

[Robin Hood]

Just another nutcase.

The Nephites thought Samuel on the wall was "just another nutcase" so they started shooting at him. Who were the real nutcases?

Not really a valid comparison.
Samuel the Lamanite wasn't claiming to be Jesus.

[Daryl]

Are you sure about that? Think about the sacrament prayer:

"...witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they are willing to take upon them the name of thy Son..."

Just another nutcase.

The Nephites thought Samuel on the wall was "just another nutcase" so they started shooting at him. Who were the real nutcases?

Not really a valid comparison.
Samuel the Lamanite wasn't claiming to be Jesus.

[passionflower]

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[Daryl]

The ideals of multiculturalism sound so warm and fuzzy, and look good on paper, BUT this is too politically unstable of a world to afford this. How would any of you( in the USA) like to go to your local symphony concert, and have a scene like the above video duplicated there? How would you feel?

Probably how the Nephites felt when Samuel was on the wall.