Tinfoil Hat Nut Job and Conspiracy Crazies

[Thomas]

Littlion wrote: It is even more serious than that Thomas. Your body can literally be changed at the DNA level. When this happens you will pass on the genetic modification to your children. Eventually you will be totally genetically remade however they want you to be remade. But many people could never believe that scientists and our government would ever let anything THAT bad happen. Its impossible right? Let alone all the pain suffering and death that has already been caused.

Nobody believed Hitler would experiment on the Jews either. How could anyone do something that bad? Yet it was done.

Such is the nature of this world.

[Fiannan]

I heard that people that seem to focus on things of a sexual nature in online forums are secretly serial killers.

[Fiannan]

I have posted links here quite often of conferences and speeches in which powerful interest groups explain how TV programs like soap operas have been used to get people sold on having small families and delaying marriage. Would this not count as a conspiracy as elite work together to change the attitudes and beliefs of people without any sort of intellectual consent?

You think that society's fixation on homosexuality is just because some writer for a TV show thinks it adds to the story line? My wife likes a certain teen drama that is aimed at younger women. In one episode there was a dance in which the couples looked pretty emotionless. Finally at the end one of the girls asks another girl if she wants to dance. The entire context of the show changed as their interaction became incredibly romantic and cute. Intended audience? Intended result?

[Rose Garden]

I'll admit. I skipped over all the arguing. All I read was George's first post. It sounds pretty solid and didn't contain any name-calling.

I'm suspect of the government because of its money and power. It has the power to take my life, literally, without suffering any consequences. That is why I am more prone to be critical of anything coming from the government than pretty much any other source. So when I hear something from a conspiracy perspective, I just happily note it down as a possibility. If I hear something from the government, I immediately try to figure out how it's benefiting someone in a shady way.

Most of the conspiracy theories consist of things I can't really check up on. I can read about studies and interviews of people who were there and other evidence like that, but how can I make sure those people are telling the truth? Once I lost confidence in the lies the government was telling me, I pretty much lost confidence in anything outside myself as well. If I can't see the evidence myself, I won't accept it as anything more than an interesting possibility one way or the other.

I guess the reason this subject is important to me is because I identify mainly with the tin foil crowd. Although I don't just accept any and all conspiracy theories without proof, I do things a lot of people think are strange because I don't trust the government.

LittleLion, my avatar is Chinese, as far as I know. But then, I had to trust google on that. Yes, it means beauty, or beautiful. At least the first character does. I've heard different things about the second one.

[LittleLion]

George, I've offered my hand in peace and friendship and even apologized if you truly believe I've offended you but alas you still twist my words. And you still call me names and make the same collective rationalizations. You're stuck in a loop man. Have a good day.

[gclayjr]

LittleLion,

I guess you live in your own closed world and see neither the difference from your words saying that you are friendly and the insulting statements in your posts. I knew that you and yours have amazingly closed minds and trying to explain anything different will change them not one whit.

That being said, I took no offense, and don't mean offense, just frustration at the robotic mantras of the "tin Foil Hat" crowd and wish you no ill will. You were brave to take up the cause. Many who also follow this path blindly agree with you but were willing to let you "take one for the team"

Best of wishes

George Clay

[LittleLion]

I guess the reason this subject is important to me is because I identify mainly with the tin foil crowd. Although I don't just accept any and all conspiracy theories without proof, I do things a lot of people think are strange because I don't trust the government.

I don't accept any and all stories people tell either no matter what you call them. My mother always told me the old adage "Believe nothing you here and only half of what you see" I think that is a healthy way to look at life. OTOH it is very easy to see the direction things are going without knowing all the details. You can discern many things by careful observation and research and the fruits tell the whole story really. Its funny how society looks at things, a person looks at another and makes character judgments without knowing anything at all about them yet when faced with trying to judge much more important things like stories that will change world views they employ an entirely different set of rules and values. I judge things and people mostly by the fruits that they produce, not what I'm told or even what my research has shown. There is still one way to know for sure. You really don't have to wait for some things to be shouted from the rooftops but Ill be happy when that day comes. .

LittleLion, my avatar is Chinese, as far as I know. But then, I had to trust google on that. Yes, it means beauty, or beautiful. At least the first character does. I've heard different things about the second one.

According to the Kanji chart I have from my daughters Japanese mission those two symbols taken together mean Beauty. I am sure there are many symbols that are the same in both languages that mean different things.

[LittleLion]

LittleLion, I guess you live in your own closed world and see neither the difference from your words saying that you are friendly and the insulting statements in your posts. I knew that you and yours have amazingly closed minds and trying to explain anything different will change them not one whit.

You know George I really want to try and see where you are coming from. So please show me what I said to insult you and I will gladly explain what it is I meant because you are obviously taking me completely and totally wrong. I don't want collective rationalizations I want you to show me the exact words I used to insult you or anyone for that matter. Please.....

[LittleLion]

You think that society's fixation on homosexuality is just because some writer for a TV show thinks it adds to the story line? My wife likes a certain teen drama that is aimed at younger women. In one episode there was a dance in which the couples looked pretty emotionless. Finally at the end one of the girls asks another girl if she wants to dance. The entire context of the show changed as their interaction became incredibly romantic and cute. Intended audience? Intended result?

Good points. You brought up Bernays as a perfect example of social engineering and the propaganda that produces these societal changes. It is a good to know how satan works so you will not be deceived and will know how to educate the people that do not see these things.

[gkearney]

I have some issues with even what President Benson said. Let me elaborate here. The problem I have is that these various conspiracies always seem to lack any specifics. We really need to know the names, positions, dates and places of meetings, how all of these parties are tied together, what demonstrable proof is there that they are working together, to what aims.

Far too often it seems that we dump anything we don't like into the big bucket of conspiracies, vaccinations, GMO food, the Federal Reserve, and anything else that strike our fancy and say it is all part of some vast overarching conspiracy but those making such claims are never able to provide proof, or even the names of the parties involved or details of just how these conspiracies are carried out.

Now I am willing to say that there are dark forces in the world, the Mafia, ISIS, criminal gangs and so on. But to just say that anything and everything we don't like is part of these vast conspiracies seems to me to be unreasonable. As if the whole world and everything in it is linked together in one vast conspiracy, that nothing ever happens without some dark unseen hand behind it.

I am willing to give President Benson the benefit of the doubt here. If there is "conspiracy fact" I await the proof of that fact in the form of specifics as to who, what, when, where and why of those facts. Something that never seems to be offered up.

[gclayjr]

LittleLion,

I have been ready to make peace and move on, because I know I cannot communicate coherently with you, but then you challenge me to find any place where your loving communication is insulting (I admit that I am deliberately provocative...I shrug off insults and look for any content in ideas), but since you challenge me here goes..

Unfortunately George when you go on your rants you says things that nobody has said

But you insist on judging me nonetheless.

What I was mainly trying to speak to is your ability to rant about what people might be saying and reading things into their words when nothing of the kind was intimated, and, have nothing at all to do with the topic at hand

Now a normal unbiased person would wonder why. But it seems like you automatically lump them into conspiracy theory land and so anything anyone says about them is false

You have done this either because you really believe it, which, if this is the case, is sad because you don't know me and the hypothesis would not stand up to any independent scrutiny at all. Or you are doing this because you are a troll/shill doing it on purpose

And again who is being smug about conspiracies while talking about secret santas is it? wow Just like the trolls/shills who's whole purpose is to discredit, malign and obfuscate

I'm sure I could easily find more, but I think this makes my point. Again I take no offense to YOUR insulting language, but don't claim all purity and niceness.

Regards,

George Clay

[Benjamin_LK]

I have some issues with even what President Benson said. Let me elaborate here. The problem I have is that these various conspiracies always seem to lack any specifics. We really need to know the names, positions, dates and places of meetings, how all of these parties are tied together, what demonstrable proof is there that they are working together, to what aims.

Far too often it seems that we dump anything we don't like into the big bucket of conspiracies, vaccinations, GMO food, the Federal Reserve, and anything else that strike our fancy and say it is all part of some vast overarching conspiracy but those making such claims are never able to provide proof, or even the names of the parties involved or details of just how these conspiracies are carried out.

Now I am willing to say that there are dark forces in the world, the Mafia, ISIS, criminal gangs and so on. But to just say that anything and everything we don't like is part of these vast conspiracies seems to me to be unreasonable. As if the whole world and everything in it is linked together in one vast conspiracy, that nothing ever happens without some dark unseen hand behind it.

I am willing to give President Benson the benefit of the doubt here. If there is "conspiracy fact" I await the proof of that fact in the form of specifics as to who, what, when, where and why of those facts. Something that never seems to be offered up.

The conspiracy fact is about people who oppose and seek to tear down the church. People who are working anti-church are usually not blatant in the sense that they walk around right in the middle of sacrament meeting saying, leave the church. No, they operate more conspicously than that, but the honest counsel is actually that from the same people who talked about the Secret Combinations, people who would use treachery against other people, people or doctrines that discourage prayer, mock the Lord, etc. Those are not of Christ. I have generally found that as secretive or conspiring as they get, they usually go and try to solicit me individually as a church member, and try to convince me to abandon the gospel for some part that they disagree with, usually through fallacies of some sort, often ad hominem, and it's usually through those warnings about people who oppose the gospel that people, conspiring or otherwise, can be seen. It's a fact that people operated from within the Church in the early days through oath bound conspiracy. Not perfect, but three individuals who had been with the secret meeting of former Church Member William Law testified to JS Jr. about the plot to kill him in prison. It was a secret meeting to set up the mob act. Same with Kirtland, people got together in a meeting to schedule the coup in the Kirtland Temple. I see more such events. But the whole "government commits all terrorism and blames it on someone else" is a bunch of nonsense that doesn't deserve the light of day.

I don't take anything from Alex Jones, Infowars, etc. at face value. Most of those people are in it for the money, run with whatever they hear without checking for validity, or just make up claims that they claim no accountability for their inaccuracies.

[LittleLion]

but since you challenge me here goes..But I think this makes my point.

I don't think any of these statements make your point all at George. I think your are correct George, we can not communicate. Lets leave it at that.

[Fiannan]

You think that society's fixation on homosexuality is just because some writer for a TV show thinks it adds to the story line? My wife likes a certain teen drama that is aimed at younger women. In one episode there was a dance in which the couples looked pretty emotionless. Finally at the end one of the girls asks another girl if she wants to dance. The entire context of the show changed as their interaction became incredibly romantic and cute. Intended audience? Intended result?

Good points. You brought up Bernays as a perfect example of social engineering and the propaganda that produces these societal changes. It is a good to know how satan works so you will not be deceived and will know how to educate the people that do not see these things.

Exactly! What I find interesting about many conspiracy fans is that they appear to be searching for something to confirm there are conspiracies, but often when you show them an example of a conspiracy they don't even take notice, although it can be something that affects their daily life. One wonders, if you dragged many conspiracy theorists into the very room where the apex of the Illuminati meet they would probably resist, pull away, leave the building and continue their arguments over who the conspirators are and what they are up to.

[Army Of Truth]

I have some issues with even what President Benson said. Let me elaborate here. The problem I have is that these various conspiracies always seem to lack any specifics. We really need to know the names, positions, dates and places of meetings, how all of these parties are tied together, what demonstrable proof is there that they are working together, to what aims.

Far too often it seems that we dump anything we don't like into the big bucket of conspiracies, vaccinations, GMO food, the Federal Reserve, and anything else that strike our fancy and say it is all part of some vast overarching conspiracy but those making such claims are never able to provide proof, or even the names of the parties involved or details of just how these conspiracies are carried out.

Now I am willing to say that there are dark forces in the world, the Mafia, ISIS, criminal gangs and so on. But to just say that anything and everything we don't like is part of these vast conspiracies seems to me to be unreasonable. As if the whole world and everything in it is linked together in one vast conspiracy, that nothing ever happens without some dark unseen hand behind it.

I am willing to give President Benson the benefit of the doubt here. If there is "conspiracy fact" I await the proof of that fact in the form of specifics as to who, what, when, where and why of those facts. Something that never seems to be offered up.

May I suggest you read "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" by Gary Allen, recommended by Pres Ezra Taft Benson in the 1972 Gen Conf. This book goes into the who, what, when, and why.

You want names? Here you go - start researching them before you discredit them. Some secret combinations are the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergs, the Trilateral Commission, the United Nations, PNAC, etc. If you research these groups you will see their ultimate goals are to take control away from We The People and our Constitution and put it into the hands of corporations/United Nations/world governmental authorities, etc.

Here is a link:

http://www.ldsfreedomnetwork.com/none-d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... piracy.pdf

[Thomas]

I find it hard to believe that people can't believe the government would commit acts of terror against their own people. Hitler did it to achieve his political aims. Smart people that crave power are well aware of how to use false flag operations. They have studied history. They know how well people
Can be manipulated by them.

Just the political changes alone since 9/11 convince me it was a false flag. We have been played into turning into a police state.

Hitler played the German people until it was too late. He had absolute power before the masses figured out what a physco he was.

Those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat it. It is happening right before our eyes but most won't realize it until it is too late.

[GeeR]

I have some issues with even what President Benson said. Let me elaborate here. The problem I have is that these various conspiracies always seem to lack any specifics. We really need to know the names, positions, dates and places of meetings, how all of these parties are tied together, what demonstrable proof is there that they are working together, to what aims.

Far too often it seems that we dump anything we don't like into the big bucket of conspiracies, vaccinations, GMO food, the Federal Reserve, and anything else that strike our fancy and say it is all part of some vast overarching conspiracy but those making such claims are never able to provide proof, or even the names of the parties involved or details of just how these conspiracies are carried out.

Now I am willing to say that there are dark forces in the world, the Mafia, ISIS, criminal gangs and so on. But to just say that anything and everything we don't like is part of these vast conspiracies seems to me to be unreasonable. As if the whole world and everything in it is linked together in one vast conspiracy, that nothing ever happens without some dark unseen hand behind it.

I am willing to give President Benson the benefit of the doubt here. If there is "conspiracy fact" I await the proof of that fact in the form of specifics as to who, what, when, where and why of those facts. Something that never seems to be offered up.

Do you think the NSA is a conspiracy theory or a conspiracy fact? Hey it exists come to Bluffdale, Ut and check it out--it's brick and mortar. Now that's "specific."

[freedomforall]

I have some issues with even what President Benson said. Let me elaborate here. The problem I have is that these various conspiracies always seem to lack any specifics. We really need to know the names, positions, dates and places of meetings, how all of these parties are tied together, what demonstrable proof is there that they are working together, to what aims.

Far too often it seems that we dump anything we don't like into the big bucket of conspiracies, vaccinations, GMO food, the Federal Reserve, and anything else that strike our fancy and say it is all part of some vast overarching conspiracy but those making such claims are never able to provide proof, or even the names of the parties involved or details of just how these conspiracies are carried out.

Now I am willing to say that there are dark forces in the world, the Mafia, ISIS, criminal gangs and so on. But to just say that anything and everything we don't like is part of these vast conspiracies seems to me to be unreasonable. As if the whole world and everything in it is linked together in one vast conspiracy, that nothing ever happens without some dark unseen hand behind it.

I am willing to give President Benson the benefit of the doubt here. If there is "conspiracy fact" I await the proof of that fact in the form of specifics as to who, what, when, where and why of those facts. Something that never seems to be offered up.

May I suggest you read "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" by Gary Allen, recommended by Pres Ezra Taft Benson in the 1972 Gen Conf. This book goes into the who, what, when, and why.

You want names? Here you go - start researching them before you discredit them. Some secret combinations are the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergs, the Trilateral Commission, the United Nations, PNAC, etc. If you research these groups you will see their ultimate goals are to take control away from We The People and our Constitution and put it into the hands of corporations/United Nations/world governmental authorities, etc.

Here is a link:

http://www.ldsfreedomnetwork.com/none-d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... piracy.pdf

A lot of people that speak against conspiracies and the fact they do exist are the one's that refuse to educate themselves by those in the know. They don't want to know what they don't know. i asked another forum member to read it and his reply was he didn't want to waste his time reading it.
It is a worth while read.

[LittleLion]

A lot of people that speak against conspiracies and the fact they do exist are the one's that refuse to educate themselves by those in the know. They don't want to know what they don't know. i asked another forum member to read it and his reply was he didn't want to waste his time reading it.It is a worth while read.

I agree. My 15+ years researching have shown me that some people will not believe anything even if you put proof right in front of their noses. They malign and obfuscate everything that is not nailed down to their own paradigm. You just have to move on with people like that because they can never have sincere and intelligent back and forth about certain things.

Just the political changes alone since 9/11 convince me it was a false flag. We have been played into turning into a police state.

Thomas the fruits of the people that do these things are very apparent to many. And just like in the missionary field there are people that are golden and ready to teach and it is easy to get them started researching on their own, but many are not ready and some never will be.

Exactly! What I find interesting about many conspiracy fans is that they appear to be searching for something to confirm there are conspiracies, but often when you show them an example of a conspiracy they don't even take notice, although it can be something that affects their daily life. One wonders, if you dragged many conspiracy theorists into the very room where the apex of the Illuminati meet they would probably resist, pull away, leave the building and continue their arguments over who the conspirators are and what they are up to.

I think the problem here is that there really is no set guidelines or boundaries for what a conspiracy theorist is. I knew exactly what you were getting at with your post but I have been called the ring leader of the nutjobs here, so by what your saying I should not have had a clue. I agree that there are people exactly like you're talking about, but most people that are sincerely searching for truth have been unfairly branded conspiracy theorists. They are painted with a broad brush because conspiracy theorist can mean many different things to many different people. That is why definitions are so important especially in law.


There are 54 titles in the annotated US code library and they cover only the general and permanent codes which exclude the uncodified statues. Point is the definition tables are almost as big as the code itself, there are 1000's of them. So when people talk about anything in law they must know the definitions of the words pertaining to the particular statute before they can even proceed. That is why there are so many different types of lawyers because nobody can know all the law it is pretty much impossible. Which is the way satan and his judges on the judgement seats want it and quite frankly have to have it.

We are trying to discuss one topic that has been extremely misunderstood and maligned and we are trying to do it with no definitions, this is almost impossible without a general set rules to go buy. IMO We are all continually going over the same things just said in different ways and we all cannot come to an agreement especially on this topic because of this problem.

[LittleLion]

There have been many good comments on both sides of this subject. Although nobody has even mentioned the item I wanted to discuss when I stared this thread. That is the fact that there is major evidence that the NSA has imbedded spy software in the firmware of the hard drives of all the major manufacturers since just after the computer age even began over 20 years ago. This has major implications.

1.They have been able to spy on almost all business, government and private computers around the world for 20 years because by placing the spyware in the HD firmware it bypasses any operating system and spy software installed on the computer.

2.The manufactures at least at the highest levels had to know about this because it was in their products. Meaning they have kept quiet for 20 years.

3. Most people including myself would not have believed this was happening 15-20 years ago. Meaning they have been doing things that the majority of people could not believe meaning we are all managed very well by these people and we do not have a freaking clue. So get a clue!

Many people in this thread have said yes, we believe that there are bad people in the world yes we believe the government has done bad things in the past and we believe satan is very powerful now. Okay, so, the next questions would be....

1. If you believe there are bad people out there and that they do bad things then what types of bad things wont they do? Do they have a limit or some type of code they will not break?

2. If you believe the government has done bad things in the past then why will they just stop doing bad things and/or what types of bad things wont they do? Do they have a limit or some type of code they will not break?

These are very valid questions. People that are searching for the truth are not all conspiracy nutjobs. History and recent events have shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that we have all been duped by our governments and the people that have dominion over us for most of if not all of our lives. So why would they stop? Why would they not continue to escalate the deception? I guarantee you that the very moment they have access to new people and/or technologies to deceive us they were immediately doing it. IMO there is no limit to their heinous actions against us period.

[friendsofthe]

I suppose that the ultimate conspiracy theory has to do with 911.

Was it an inside job? Yes! Most definitely!

I received that conformation by the spirit long before all the facts were out!

[JohnnyL]

If there is "conspiracy fact" I await the proof of that fact in the form of specifics as to who, what, when, where and why of those facts. Something that never seems to be offered up.

Lots of posts in lots of threads have done just that. And it's been done regarding lots of conspiracies...

Can you provide an example of a conspiracy talked about here on a relatively longer (or even shorter) thread that has had no sources, facts, etc.?

[gkearney]

If there is "conspiracy fact" I await the proof of that fact in the form of specifics as to who, what, when, where and why of those facts. Something that never seems to be offered up.

Lots of posts in lots of threads have done just that. And it's been done regarding lots of conspiracies...

Can you provide an example of a conspiracy talked about here on a relatively longer (or even shorter) thread that has had no sources, facts, etc.?

What we have here however is the opinions as to what President Benson was referring to. What we lack however is his direct identification of the conspirators or such direct identification from any other priesthood authority. If they know as many of you seem to believe why have they remained silent? Why not tell us directly to whome they speak of?

[Chip]

Watch from 1:07:30

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

"The point of the demoralization process was to get people to where they cannot come to sensible conclusions about what is right and what is wrong, about what is true and what is false. Exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures, even if I take him by force and show him the actual, material physical proof, he will refuse to believe it, until he receives a kick on his fat bottom. So, America is basically stuck with demoralization. Even if you start right now, this minute, educating a new generation of Americans, it will still take you fifteen to twenty years to turn the tide of ideological perception of reality back to normalcy." --- Yuri Bezmenov

[freedomforall]

If there is "conspiracy fact" I await the proof of that fact in the form of specifics as to who, what, when, where and why of those facts. Something that never seems to be offered up.

Lots of posts in lots of threads have done just that. And it's been done regarding lots of conspiracies...

Can you provide an example of a conspiracy talked about here on a relatively longer (or even shorter) thread that has had no sources, facts, etc.?

What we have here however is the opinions as to what President Benson was referring to. What we lack however is his direct identification of the conspirators or such direct identification from any other priesthood authority. If they know as many of you seem to believe why have they remained silent? Why not tell us directly to whome they speak of?

Here is what Pres. Benson wanted the saints to know, to be aware of, to assess and strive to avoid when seen today. All one has to do is write down key words and phrases to know what to look for:

61 points about Secret Combinations in the Book of Mormon

1.Secret combinations existed in times of old (2 Nephi 26:22)

2.They have secret oaths, covenants, agreements, signs, wonders, and plans (Alma 37:27,32)

3.Alma commanded his son not to reveal their secret oaths and covenants to the general public (Alma 37:27)

4.They murdered the prophets (Alma 37:30)

5.The object of all those who belonged to the secret society was to murder, rob, and gain power (Helaman 2:8)

6.They were established in the more settled part of the land (Helaman 3:23)

7.Those at the head of the government for a time did not know they existed (Helaman 3:23)

8.Many were baptized into the church while the secret society was being established (Helaman 3:24) 43 BC

9.After the people had been blessed so long with riches and were not engaged in wars, the people started to set their hearts on riches, so they began to murder and steal as part of a secret combination (Helaman 6:17)

10.They murdered chief judges (Helaman 6:19)

11.When the Lamanites found out that there were secret combinations among them, they tried to destroy them out of their midst (Helaman 6:20)

12.The Nephites united with the secret combination (Helaman 6:21) 25 BC

13.The members of the secret combination covenanted with each other that they would protect and help each other, and not let each other be brought to punishment (Helaman 6:12)

14.They had secret signs and words to identity each other (Helaman 6:22)

15.They covenanted with each other that they should not do wickedness to each other (Helaman 6:22)

16.They would punish any member of the secret combination that would reveal their wickedness (Helaman 6:24)

17.Gadianton had the same oaths and covenants in his secret combination that existed in the secret combinations of the Jaredites, yet Gadianton did not get those oaths and covenants from the plates, but from the devil (Helaman 6:26)

18.The Lamanites destroyed the secret combination from among them by teaching the word of God to them (Helaman 6:37)

19.The Nephites built them up (Helaman 6:38)

20.The secret combination among the Nephites started with the more wicked people, but eventually spread over the whole land. (Helaman 6:38)

21.The more part of the righteous of the Nephites to believe in their works and to partake of their spoils and join with them in murders (Helaman 6:38) 24 BC

22.The secret combination did obtain sole management of the government (Helaman 6:39)

23.Once in power, they began to abuse the poor and humble followers of God (Helaman 6:39)

24.Nephi asked the Lord to send a famine to get the people to repent of supporting the secret combination and performing wicked deeds. Many died, and they began to repent. (Helaman 11:4)

25.The Nephites swept the secret combination out from among them, and the famine ended (Helaman 11:10)

26.Nephite dissenters searched for the plans of Gadianton (Helaman 11:26)

27.They hid in the mountains (Helaman 11:31)

28.At first the Nephites started to repent, but then the just grew more wicked (Helaman 11:37)

29.Many dissenters of the Nephites joined the secret combination, and many of the children were flattered into joining them (3 Nephi 1:28-29)

30.The Nephites continued to fight the secret combination, even though the Nephites remained wicked (3 Nephi 2:10)

31.The leader of the secret combination invited the leader of the Nephites to become equal brothers with them in the secret combination, and equal in all their possessions (3 Nephi 3:7)

32.The leader of the secret combination declared his society and its works to be good and of an ancient date and that it has been handed down to them (3 Nephi 9)

33.The leader of the secret combination accused the Nephites of having retained the rights of government from the people (3 Nephi 3:10)

34.The leader of the secret combination demanded that the Nephites yield all their possession to them (3 Nephi 3:10)

35.The Nephites defeated the secret combination and attributed their victory to their humility and repentance (3 Nephi 4:33)

36.The Nephites put an end to the secret combination (3 Nephi 5:6)

37.Judge secretly were putting to death those that were testifying to the people about their wickedness. Only the chief judge was legally allowed to put someone to death (3 Nephi 6:23)

38.The judge formed a secret combination among themselves to avoid punishment from their crimes, using the same covenants of previous secret combination (3 Nephi 6:28)

39.This new secret combination sought to kill the people of god, kill the chief judge, and establish a king (2 Nephi 6:30)

40.They murdered the chief judge and the Nephites split into tribes (3 Nephi 7:2)

41.They caused a great contention in the land so that almost all the righteous had become wicked (3 Nephi 7:7)

42.They put a man over them as their king (3 Nephi 7:10)

43.After Christ came and the the Nephites and Lamanites were righteous for many years, they began again to build up a secret combinations (4 Nephi 1:42)

44.The Book of Mormon will be brought forth in a day when the blood of saints shall cry unto the Lord, because of secret combinations (Mormon 8:27)

45.The Jaredites brought with them a record of secret combinations (Ether 8:9)

46.The daughter of a Jaredite king used an ancient account of a secret combination obtaining a kingdom and great glory as a model for a plan to get her own father's kingdom back (Ether 8:9,18)

47.Moroni purposefully did not write the oaths of the secret combinations because they are already had among all people (Ether 8:20)

48.Secret combinations have caused the destruction of the Nephites (Ether 8:21)

49.Whatsoever nation that upholds secret combinations shall be destroyed (Ether 8:22)

50.Moroni wrote about the secret combinations for the benefit of the Gentiles, so that they could repent and not be overpowered by the secret combinations (Ether 8:23)

51.The Lords commands that when we see secret combinations come among us that we should awake to a sense of our awful situation (Ether 8:24)

52.Those who build up secret combinations seek to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and all people (Ether 8:25)

53.The kingdom of Omer was overthrown because of secret combinations (Ether 9:1)

54.The hearts of all the Jaredites had become corrupt because of the secret combinations (Ether 9:6)

55.The son of a king sought after secret plans of old to dethrone his father (Ether 9:26)

56.A secret combination cause the people to rebel against the king and the kingdom was split (Ether 11:15)

57.The Lord decreed that another people would possess the land because of the wickedness of the people and the secret combinations (Ether 11:21-22)

58.Mighty men rose up and tried to use their secret combination to destroy the king (Ether 13:15)

59.The secret combination killed many people in their effort to obtain the kingdom from the king (Ether 13:18)

60.A king received great strength because of secret combinations (Ether 14:8)

61.A king's high priest murdered his king, and then that high priest was murdered by a member of that secret combinations (Ether 8:9-10)