Gay Marriage vs. Vaccination

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[JohnnyL]

You know, the person who told me this story about their son and his swiss mission, was actually a doctor. And, truly, I don't know the son, or how old he is. I was just told that the church would not send him on his mission without the shots. Maybe the letter really did the trick. Because Ezra is probably right about what he says. and I am behind the times.

Someone told me about 10 years ago, that he had an allergy to vaccinations, but his stake president refused to send in his papers for his mission unless he got vaccinated. He did, and could not go on his mission for 9 months because he got so ill.

Luckily that is straightened out now, though the missionary department does not pass that information (no vaccines, no need to pull wisdom teeth) down to the stake presidents...

[KMCopeland]

In addition to the opposing principles of Gay Marriage and Vaccination, let's throw in abortion.

Roe vs. Wade:
"It's my body, and I can do what I want with it."

Vaccinations:
"It's not your body, you must vaccinate."

Or maybe:
"I believe in empowering the government to prevent women from having abortions, which would require an amount of government power, and an administrative infrastructure of such massive proportions it would make Communist China look like a pipsqueak,"

And at the same time:
"I'm mad because I have to prove my child has been vaccinated before he or she can attend public school."

Gibberish!

How original.

[Benjamin_LK]

No use arguing this. The liberals run the government and they are passing the laws.

The GOP is running the government and they never pass any laws.

They will have gay marriage (because they like it)

If we have gay marriage it will be because they think it's what their constituents want. Which is sort of the way it's supposed to work.

and they will eventually force all Americans to be vaccinated(because they have a green light through government mandates through Nationalized healthcare); that's because our representatives in Congress have put the Gov. in charge of our health care.

They can't force anybody to be vaccinated. And we don't have nationalized health care, sadly enough.

Do Americans really think the government is going to just sit back and let them get diseases that the gov. will then have to pay for to treat? Of course not.

You're close to an important point: we're all in this together. Part of why refusing to vaccinate is so irresponsible is the other people you put at risk. At least now, thanks to Obamacare, taxpayers will no longer have to carry the cost for people who contract the disease they could so easily have prevented by vaccination, because those people will have health insurance that will pay for it instead. As will all the people whose health they endangered by refusing to vaccinate.

The Government will eventually force vaccinations on all citizens

The government doesn't have that power, and it's unlikely they ever will. IMO.

and they also won't care whether or not they are safe

Of course they'll care if they're safe or not. Good grief.

because who are the people going to complain to if they have bad reactions or problems? The United Nations? There is no one to complain to when the Government is in charge. This is only going to get much worse.

Hard as the fascist movement (disguised as the once-honorable and now pathetic Republican Party) has tried to remove all accountability from corporations for the damage their products do, the United States still has an justice system where you can take grievances like this. Since the 20-30 year old deregulation mania has systematically removed crucial safety regulations and oversight, we at least have the courts left to demand accountabililty from monster corporations for the damage their products do.

It has been the case that wealthy people have long comprised the unvaccinated. Problem with that is thanks to antiviral medications and homeschooling, they don't care. The American poor has long been thoroughly vaccinated, especially when they can get it for free.

[KMCopeland]

It has been the case that wealthy people have long comprised the unvaccinated. Problem with that is thanks to antiviral medications and homeschooling, they don't care. The American poor has long been thoroughly vaccinated, especially when they can get it for free.

Without weighing in on whether that's true or not -- because I have no idea -- what would you say is its signifcance?