Who decides who gets banned and why?

[capctr]

I have heard of people being banned from this forum, and am confused as to why? What qualifies one for banishment? Who decided? Who lowers the executioners axe?

[marc]

Brian as far as I know and even after much leniency.

[marc]

I can attest to that haha

You're a lightweight, though. I recall a heavyweight receive a LOT of tolerance and was probably banned a time or two before finally being booted permanently. Not sure he'd ever want to return anyway. I think he just needed closure.

[BroJones]

It seems many just quite posting... some sort of fatigue I guess.

I've taken a break from forums for a while before...
I appreciate the humor here and the insights.
I will say my "other forum" for energy research is a lot of fun these days. So I spend more time there.
Cheers everyone!

[FSM]

Brian does. But he can't read past all the time. So I think people report you when you say something that should be censored. For example, there was this post about when Jesus was coming back and I was feeling abandoned by god and replied to the post "he's not coming back". Well I think someone reported me and I was giving a warning. Which was cool. I recanted. But I was not trying to be a troublemaker. Most of the time when I try to believe in god I also feel abandoned by him. Its when I don't believe in him that I hold no grudges on him. Too much info. I know. The worst thing that can happen is other members put you on their foe list. Which means valuable people can no longer hear your cry for help when you ask.

[wrsales]

friendsandfun is honestly pretty scary. While they believe they are there to protect the Church, and the Brethren, it is one of the most judgmental and closed minded spaces I have ever encountered. A while back Jared (BallamDoctrine) was asking some sincere questions he had and he got beat down and criticized endlessly. Not to mention an entire thread bad mouthing Jules, where everyone could chime in and talk about how terrible she is. As long as you aren't going to disagree with anything they say, that's a good place to be. But if you ever have any questions or concerns, that's probably not the place to go.

[jbalm]

To be fair, Jules is pretty bad.

\M/

[Obrien]

Brian does. But he can't read past all the time. So I think people report you when you say something that should be censored. For example, there was this post about when Jesus was coming back and I was feeling abandoned by god and replied to the post "he's not coming back". Well I think someone reported me and I was giving a warning. Which was cool. I recanted. But I was not trying to be a troublemaker. Most of the time when I try to believe in god I also feel abandoned by him. Its when I don't believe in him that I hold no grudges on him. Too much info. I know. The worst thing that can happen is other members put you on their foe list. Which means valuable people can no longer hear your cry for help when you ask.

That's funny FMS - Saturday I noticed that exact post you referenced above ^^^ and wondered why you had edited it. Does this mean the fog has lifted and you believe He will return someday, or were you cowed into changing it to stay on the forum? I hope the fog has lifted - but I feel your need to cry for help as well. If it were not for a singular experience I had when I was 21 (I'm mid 40's now), I would probably be an atheist now, too.

To make up for those that may have put you on their FOE list, I'm going to put you on my FRIEND list. You'll be my only official friend on the forum.

[Obrien]

friendsandfun is honestly pretty scary. While they believe they are there to protect the Church, and the Brethren, it is one of the most judgmental and closed minded spaces I have ever encountered. A while back Jared (BallamDoctrine) was asking some sincere questions he had and he got beat down and criticized endlessly. Not to mention an entire thread bad mouthing Jules, where everyone could chime in and talk about how terrible she is. As long as you aren't going to disagree with anything they say, that's a good place to be. But if you ever have any questions or concerns, that's probably not the place to go.

I wouldn't say it's scary - it's HILARIOUS. That said, they have been very hard on Jules, almost Pharisaical (I don't think anyone has proposed crucifying her yet, but I may have missed it.) It kinda makes me sad for them, as eventually we're judged according to our judgment of others. That's a heavy burden.

[Obrien]

Brian does. But he can't read past all the time. So I think people report you when you say something that should be censored. For example, there was this post about when Jesus was coming back and I was feeling abandoned by god and replied to the post "he's not coming back". Well I think someone reported me and I was giving a warning. Which was cool. I recanted. But I was not trying to be a troublemaker. Most of the time when I try to believe in god I also feel abandoned by him. Its when I don't believe in him that I hold no grudges on him. Too much info. I know. The worst thing that can happen is other members put you on their foe list. Which means valuable people can no longer hear your cry for help when you ask.

That's funny FMS - Saturday I noticed that exact post you referenced above ^^^ and wondered why you had edited it. Does this mean the fog has lifted and you believe He will return someday, or were you cowed into changing it to stay on the forum? I hope the fog has lifted - but I feel your need to cry for help as well. If it were not for a singular experience I had when I was 21 (I'm mid 40's now), I would probably be an atheist now, too.

To make up for those that may have put you on their FOE list, I'm going to put you on my FRIEND list. You'll be my only official friend on the forum.

What happens when you put someone on your foe list ?

No idea, I'm just helping balance out the scales for FSM.
I used to have a friend named sen6b, but she disappeared. I did not discern any positive or negative consequence to having her on my friend list.

[wrsales]

I don't think its dramatic. These are people who believe they are the defenders of the church. If those are the type of people who are defenders then that is terrifying. They are incredibly mean, they don't tolerate questions, if you do question you are immediately apostate. Who would ever want to belong to a religion like that? I'm assuming its only TBM's over there so they don't need to worry about scaring away investigators but I would never in a million years want an investigator to read their unrighteous judgement. I know many believe this forum to be "apostate" but I would much rather send an investigator here** because they would be able to ask questions without being belittled and shouted down.

edited hear to here**

[Steve Clark]

I haven't either on my friends list i just wondered if something else happened having a foe list. And what ever happened to that sen6b? She was AMAZING!!! ;)

Foes' posts are hidden so you don't have to endure their offensive posts. I have only done it once.

[Lizzy60]

I haven't either on my friends list i just wondered if something else happened having a foe list. And what ever happened to that sen6b? She was AMAZING!!! ;)

Foes' posts are hidden so you don't have to endure their offensive posts. I have only done it once.

I've only done it twice, and both posters are no longer here. I didn't report them or anything like that. I just facilitated my being able to ignore their posts.

[Obrien]

Cool function. But what's the potential for enlightenment / entertainment / education when you never read an opposing point of view?? It sounds like Gospel Doctrine class, online...

[Lizzy60]

Cool function. But what's the potential for enlightenment / entertainment / education when you never read an opposing point of view?? It sounds like Gospel Doctrine class, online...

The two people I ignored were not enlightening, entertaining, or educating me. Just highly opinionated and annoying. I don't know if they were banned. I just know they disappeared. Maybe they didn't like other people having differing opinions.

[Obrien]

There are still several of those ^^^ on the forum, from my POV, but I bet they have me on their foe list. :))

[marc]

Oooh good to know...hmm i bet im on a lot of people's foe list :ymdevil:

Not mine. I need a good laugh every day. Your retorts crack me up! :p

[Obrien]

How do you get such an easy job in the kingdom?

[FSM]

Brian does. But he can't read past all the time. So I think people report you when you say something that should be censored. For example, there was this post about when Jesus was coming back and I was feeling abandoned by god and replied to the post "he's not coming back". Well I think someone reported me and I was giving a warning. Which was cool. I recanted. But I was not trying to be a troublemaker. Most of the time when I try to believe in god I also feel abandoned by him. Its when I don't believe in him that I hold no grudges on him. Too much info. I know. The worst thing that can happen is other members put you on their foe list. Which means valuable people can no longer hear your cry for help when you ask.

That's funny FMS - Saturday I noticed that exact post you referenced above ^^^ and wondered why you had edited it. Does this mean the fog has lifted and you believe He will return someday, or were you cowed into changing it to stay on the forum? I hope the fog has lifted - but I feel your need to cry for help as well. If it were not for a singular experience I had when I was 21 (I'm mid 40's now), I would probably be an atheist now, too.

To make up for those that may have put you on their FOE list, I'm going to put you on my FRIEND list. You'll be my only official friend on the forum.

What happens when you put someone on your foe list ?

For example people that have foed me cant see any of my post anymore. they also cant report me when i say something appostate. But they forgot one thing: there are always more. Visitors than members viewing our topics and post. There is no way people that foe me can stop me now. But I'm not one to take advantage of their weakness. I truly feel sorry for them for letting the guard down on our forum.

[Obrien]

In English, por favor? ^^^

eta -I got out my urim and thummim and figured out the post above...I think. my hat wasnt big enough to exclude ALL the ambient light, so I may not have gotten your complete meaning.

[FSM]

Brian does. But he can't read past all the time. So I think people report you when you say something that should be censored. For example, there was this post about when Jesus was coming back and I was feeling abandoned by god and replied to the post "he's not coming back". Well I think someone reported me and I was giving a warning. Which was cool. I recanted. But I was not trying to be a troublemaker. Most of the time when I try to believe in god I also feel abandoned by him. Its when I don't believe in him that I hold no grudges on him. Too much info. I know. The worst thing that can happen is other members put you on their foe list. Which means valuable people can no longer hear your cry for help when you ask.

That's funny FMS - Saturday I noticed that exact post you referenced above ^^^ and wondered why you had edited it. Does this mean the fog has lifted and you believe He will return someday, or were you cowed into changing it to stay on the forum? I hope the fog has lifted - but I feel your need to cry for help as well. If it were not for a singular experience I had when I was 21 (I'm mid 40's now), I would probably be an atheist now, too.

To make up for those that may have put you on their FOE list, I'm going to put you on my FRIEND list. You'll be my only official friend on the forum.

Thank you for adding my to your friend list. That was very kind of you. I will also add you to mine. I will also email you soon with more info. In a nut shell I'm more spiritual minded on Tuesday and Wednesday's. IV been known to be a complete atheist on Sundays. I love this forum. I learn more hear from people like you than I do in Sunday school.

[Obrien]

FSM - now that we are officially friends, how does this change our digital relationship? You explained the result of "foe-ing" someone, what is the benefit of "friend-ing"? E mail me on Sunday when you're feeling most like an atheist. I like a challenge.

[FoxMammaWisdom]

Well Wrsales, that's a rather dramatic and exaggerated way of describing it.
:))

I thought it was actually understated. But then I'm one of those who was accused on that forum, of dancing in the blood of my Satanic sacrifices. So what do I know?

[FoxMammaWisdom]

FSM, I am no longer a mod on this part of the forum, and I didn't see your post that you were asked to edit. I will say in the defense of the moderators here, it is not a fun or easy job. Sometimes we make mistakes in trying to determine what a person is actually saying and if any action should be taken (edit, delete, warn, etc.). There are also moderators from different backgrounds who have different sensitivities, and different gospel understandings - even within the same church. Everyone Brian chooses to moderate, agrees to uphold the rules of his house here:

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Mostly we just try to encourage people to be nice and respectful of others. There have been plenty of non members here who have questions and such and have opened up productive discussions -even about things most LDS don't believe. That is totally fine. It's the contention, lies, slander, threats, etc., that get people in trouble.

If you disagree with a moderator or feel like you can't communicate with them, then just go straight to Brian and he will help you resolve it. But since this is his website, and he pays for it, and he maintains it, we follow Brian's house rules; he has the final say on any decision, and is the only one who can ban. He is also probably the most patient and accepting person on this forum.

[FSM]

FSM - now that we are officially friends, how does this change our digital relationship? You explained the result of "foe-ing" someone, what is the benefit of "friend-ing"? E mail me on Sunday when you're feeling most like an atheist. I like a challenge.

Ii can't Sunday. I'm trying to avoid all electronics.... It probably won't work. Friending if good. This means I surprising show up to your defense when someone tries to hurt you. There's others I can't think of now.