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Rosa: Glock or some other pagan handgun?

Ezra: Glock or some other pagan handgun?


Choose wisely.

Ezra wrote:

coachmarc wrote:Ezra, when it comes to the gospel, I agree with your answers. MR edged you out by qualifying her answer with "anything." That and keeping her answer as short as possible removes any kind of doubt, much less prevents me from forming too much of an opinion.

Is there anything in this world that is not part of God or his gosple?

Context is key. I gave no context in my first question. Is there a right way to lay tile? Is there a right way to eat ice cream? MR was wise in providing as little input as possible, but the drawback to that is she leaves little with which to gauge her wisdom, which is why she barely edged you out. But to answer your specific question, in my opinion, no. God gives us agency to eat ice cream any which way we desire.

I didn't even think anyone would take this post seriously shows how wise I am.

Ezra wrote:I didn't even think anyone would take this post seriously shows how wise I am.

But it's how I chose to play.

coachmarc wrote:

Ezra wrote:

coachmarc wrote:Ezra, when it comes to the gospel, I agree with your answers. MR edged you out by qualifying her answer with "anything." That and keeping her answer as short as possible removes any kind of doubt, much less prevents me from forming too much of an opinion.

Is there anything in this world that is not part of God or his gosple?

Context is key. I gave no context in my first question. Is there a right way to lay tile? Is there a right way to eat ice cream? MR was wise in providing as little input as possible, but the drawback to that is she leaves little with which to gauge her wisdom, which is why she barely edged you out. But to answer your specific question, in my opinion, no. God gives us agency to eat ice cream any which way we desire.

I'm sure that God would say there is a godly way to eat it. I can only imagine what it is. So many really cool possibilities

mirkwood wrote:Rosa: Glock or some other pagan handgun?

Ezra: Glock or some other pagan handgun?


Choose wisely.

I would rather have a 338 lapua. But since that isant an option

Glock.

Ezra wrote:

Obrien wrote:I have the tie breaking question :

How many fingers am I holding up behind my back right NOW?

ETA - if you think about the question, your odds are really pretty good of getting it right.

8 as that's all the fingers you have. The other 2 are thumbs.

The correct answer was...4.

Obrien wrote:

Ezra wrote:

Obrien wrote:I have the tie breaking question :

How many fingers am I holding up behind my back right NOW?

ETA - if you think about the question, your odds are really pretty good of getting it right.

8 as that's all the fingers you have. The other 2 are thumbs.

The correct answer was...4.

That means I was half right.
0 would imply you have a stump at the end of your wrist. She must think of you as grotesque creature?

Muerte Rosa wrote:No he was typing....so zero....I'm right.....my wisdom is just too advanced for a person of his age.

Sounds like to it advanced for a person of any age. Especially age1-5.

Muerte Rosa wrote:Yo no hablo Inglés?

Sore wa daijōbudesu, watashi wa shita o hanasu

=))

Ezra wrote:

Muerte Rosa wrote:Yo no hablo Inglés?

Sore wa daijōbudesu, watashi wa shita o hanasu

=))

I said" that's ok I speak tongues" in Japanese.

Ezra wrote:I'm always amazed at how most people let media do their thinking for them.

Media paints anything or anyone that is contrary to modern medicine or science as quack. If it dosent fit into the agenda of our gadiantan run media they shoot it down and the sheeple follow suit.

The media is not the same thing as science. In fact the popular media is pretty bad at reporting science. At least that is what one of my science professors at BYU said. If anything I think that the popular media gives too much credence too New Age mumbo jumbo like Deepak Chopra promotes.

So you belive the science of evolution? Or global warming? Or the dates of the earth? And if so when did your form those beliefs?
Can you back any of those beliefs up with scripture?

Ezra wrote:So you belive the science of evolution? Or global warming? Or the dates of the earth?

Yes. don't know. Yes.

Ezra wrote: And if so when did your form those beliefs?
Can you back any of those beliefs up with scripture?

They are backed up by the Book of Nature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Nature

Science as I have learned is full of holes. There are proofs that prove and disprove evolution. Thats why it's still a theory. Darwinian evolution still has no proofs. Coriolis effect disproves evolution timeline. Combined with the earths rotation slowing down due to the gravitational pull of the moon.
Humans have been around for 200,000 years they say. And we just learned to write? In the last 10,000? And yet our brains are getting smaller.
What was God doing waiting for us to evolve to read and write so he could then give us prophets and the iron rod?

They just don't seem to fit together.
In so many ways the science of evolution is a religon as those who belive it have to on blind faith. They have to trust what they have been told is the way it is. Science dosent belive in God as they can't prove it. They have as the scripture say they would.

2 nephi 26:20 put down the miracles of God to teach unto themselfs their own wisdom and their own learnings.

I have a hard time putting much trust into an institution that dosent belive or teach of God.

I'm not saying I turn a blind eye to it. I just don't belive all I hear or read. Take it as a grain of salt. In order to keep my mind open to other possibilitys.

Like just how fast can cells reproduce??? A baby is made in 9 months. A year later his sizes has doubled or tripled. From nothing to a life form. Why can a baby do that and we cannot? It's not size as you can look at the same process in large animals and see the same thing on a larger scale.

Ezra wrote:Science as I have learned is full of holes. There are proofs that prove and disprove evolution. Thats why it's still a theory.

No, it is a theory because it is an explanation. Please look up what a scientific theory is.

Ezra wrote: Darwinian evolution still has no proofs. Coriolis effect disproves evolution timeline. Combined with the earths rotation slowing down due to the gravitational pull of the moon.

Er, what?

Ezra wrote: Humans have been around for 200,000 years they say. And we just learned to write? In the last 10,000? And yet our brains are getting smaller.
What was God doing waiting for us to evolve to read and write so he could then give us prophets and the iron rod?

They just don't seem to fit together.
In so many ways the science of evolution is a religon as those who belive it have to on blind faith. They have to trust what they have been told is the way it is. Science dosent belive in God as they can't prove it. They have as the scripture say they would.

Science is a method of obtaining knowledge. It is a method of what some classical theologians called reading God's Book of Nature. Sure it can be read incorrectly, just like scriptures can be translated incorrectly. The great thing about the scientific method is that it is self correcting because it is based on evidence, not blind faith.

Ezra wrote: 2 nephi 26:20 put down the miracles of God to teach unto themselfs their own wisdom and their own learnings.

I have a hard time putting much trust into an institution that dosent belive or teach of God.

I'm not saying I turn a blind eye to it. I just don't belive all I hear or read. Take it as a grain of salt. In order to keep my mind open to other possibilitys.

Do you understand the evidence behind the various scientific theories that you have read about? It seems like you haven't even read enough science literature to gain an understand of what a scientific theory is.

Ezra wrote: Like just how fast can cells reproduce??? A baby is made in 9 months. A year later his sizes has doubled or tripled. From nothing to a life form. Why can a baby do that and we cannot? It's not size as you can look at the same process in large animals and see the same thing on a larger scale.

I am sure there are some great books and websites about human biology that would explain that. Have you tried reading any?

The main problem with science is it arrogantly disregards the unknown. It says "This is impossible because we "know" this other thing to be true", when we know such an infinitesimally small amount of the total knowledge there is to be had out there. We make an observation like "The earth appears to be flat", and when someone comes along with evidence to the contrary, we disregard that evidence do to the easily observable flatness of the earth. Eventually, science comes along to the truth, and then forgets it was even wrong in the first place.

Coriolis effect is the heating colling of earths Surface creates winds speeds. The faster the rotation of earth the faster the heating cooling faster the wind speeds.

Run the clock backwards and our days was shorter. With higher wind speeds. Jupiter with its eye of a hurricane that is constantly happening is an example of this. It has a 9 hour day.
Durring the time of Jurassic our days was short enough that the wind speeds would have been 1000 mph with storm speeds closer to double that.

Good luck living in those conditions. Yet science ignores this and keeps head long on the time scale they have set????

As small farm points out. The world is flat and nothing short of popular belife because of evidence presented or exsperiance will change that.

When those sorces of getting that info to the people are controled. They can present any idea as truth they want as long as we are ignorant to any other knowledge.
And we know that satan would have us remain ignorant.

As I said befor I just keep and open mind as I know there are truths and discoverys by science. But even that knowledge is through the filter of men and their understandings. I will not though put my faith in men over God.

We are just talking handguns at the moment.

Ezra thank you for your reply. I see you have some wisdom.

Muerta?

I like glocks because the name just sounds awesome. I don't know anything about guns but if I were to choose, I would probably get a glock just so it would sound cool every time I talked about it.

mirkwood wrote:We are just talking handguns at the moment.

Ezra thank you for your reply. I see you have some wisdom.

Muerta?

If money wasn't an option I would buy a kimber. Hard to beat a glock though.

Ezra it is!

mirkwood wrote:Ezra it is!

Do I win a glock!?

SmallFarm wrote:The main problem with science is it arrogantly disregards the unknown. It says "This is impossible because we "know" this other thing to be true", when we know such an infinitesimally small amount of the total knowledge there is to be had out there. We make an observation like "The earth appears to be flat", and when someone comes along with evidence to the contrary, we disregard that evidence do to the easily observable flatness of the earth. Eventually, science comes along to the truth, and then forgets it was even wrong in the first place.

I would so not so much disregards the unknown, but admits it is unknown. Making observations is only the first step in the scientific method. Who forgets old hypotheses that were wrong in first the first place? Correcting past mistakes is the strength of science, not a weakness.

Ezra wrote:Coriolis effect is the heating colling of earths Surface creates winds speeds. The faster the rotation of earth the faster the heating cooling faster the wind speeds.

Run the clock backwards and our days was shorter. With higher wind speeds. Jupiter with its eye of a hurricane that is constantly happening is an example of this. It has a 9 hour day.
Durring the time of Jurassic our days was short enough that the wind speeds would have been 1000 mph with storm speeds closer to double that.

Good luck living in those conditions. Yet science ignores this and keeps head long on the time scale they have set????

I know that the Coriolis Effect is the effect from the rotational acceleration of the Earth's spin, but I don't know that you are talking about. Where are you getting your calculations from about the length of days?

Ezra wrote: As small farm points out. The world is flat and nothing short of popular belife because of evidence presented or exsperiance will change that.

Right, evidence adds to our knowledge. That is what science is about

Ezra wrote: When those sorces of getting that info to the people are controled. They can present any idea as truth they want as long as we are ignorant to any other knowledge.
And we know that satan would have us remain ignorant.

Controlled by whom? There are millions of scientists and engineers across the world from all sorts of backgrounds.

Ezra wrote: As I said befor I just keep and open mind as I know there are truths and discoverys by science. But even that knowledge is through the filter of men and their understandings. I will not though put my faith in men over God.

Interpretation of scripture is also filtered through men and their understandings.