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....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: September 25th, 2014, 11:11 pm
by Brokenheart
no know how start this....introducing my self?..no even have the energy to do so, the past 4 days my world just collapse. I find out that my beloved husband , is planning to get baptize in the Denver Snuffer what ever is called !...sound like I s"just that". But the info just start to coming and is horrible!..i just fall apart! no know where to go, run, no have more tears to shade, feel sick of my stomach!.
Secrets meetings, loosing his priesthood so he can the True One , that guys talk to the Lord every day...is all in one in my face!. My soul just ache of pain... Please, just hold me until I can figured out to who I can talk to or where to go for support.
Thank you.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 2nd, 2014, 3:08 pm
by Bananikka
Brokenheart, go to your bishop and ask for a blessing. Ask for your home teachers and visiting teachers to visit you. Tell your relief society president what is going on and how you feel. I will be praying for you.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 2nd, 2014, 3:10 pm
by Rose Garden
I second Bananikka's advice.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 2nd, 2014, 3:16 pm
by Bananikka
(And I don't mean next Sunday, I mean today <3 )
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 2nd, 2014, 3:49 pm
by Robert Sinclair
♡ Time will manifest the truth. Good advice from your fellow sisters. ♡
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 2nd, 2014, 4:53 pm
by kathyn
Brokenheart, this is a terrible trial you are suffering. I can't even imagine. This has been the danger with Snufferites from the beginning...that those who follow DS are in danger of losing their Church blessings because of him. Continue to keep your faith and hold onto the rod of iron with everything you have. Let your church brothers and sisters help you bear this terrible burden. You are in my prayers and thoughts. Dear sister, do not give up.
Also, call your names into as many temples as you can.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 2nd, 2014, 5:05 pm
by Obrien
With all due respect, why don't you talk to your husband? He's the guy you covenanted with, not your bishop, RS President or anyone else (well, except God - Talk to Him too). Don't get crazy or become emotional...be calm and talk to hubby. I bet he loves you more than he loves Snuffer anyway. You'll be fine. It's possible to live with someone who has different beliefs than you and still be happy and loving. Don't react in haste. Think. Pray for guidance. Be a grown up. You have it in you.

Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 2nd, 2014, 11:48 pm
by Rose Garden
I second and third Orien's advice.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 12:06 am
by freedomforall
Jezebel wrote:I second and third Orien's advice.
To be a grown up? Isn't that rather cold and insulting? That's exactly what someone hurting wants to hear?
A blessing would calm her and then she could discuss the issue with her husband, having the Holy Ghost to help her. We are taught in scripture to become as a child, not to act like prideful adults.
Matthew 18:3
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
3 Nephi 11:37
37 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or ye can in nowise receive these things.
3 Nephi 11:38
38 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little child, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.
Mark 10:15
15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
3 Ne. 9:22
22 Therefore, whoso repenteth and cometh unto me as a little child, him will I receive, for of such is the kingdom of God. Behold, for such I have laid down my life, and have taken it up again; therefore repent, and come unto me ye ends of the earth, and be saved.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 12:08 am
by Bananikka
Please talk to your bishop he does have stewardship to help you and give you blessings as you need them. Your releif society president and visiting/home teachers can help you to endure extreme grief and sorrow and help to uplift you and lighten your burdens. Naturally also prayer is very important as The Lord is ways there to hear, council and comfort you. It is very grown up to reach out for this help. It is very unwise to wallow in your sorrow and despair. We are all brothers and sisters on this earth and as members of the Saviors church have made promises to love and uplift eqxhother. To make our brow hrs and sisters burdens light and comfort those on need of
ComFort. Accepting this help is in no way "ungrownup". Just as sometimes you will be the one offering help, other times you will stand jn need of this same help from others and that is ok it is all
Part of the plan.
I certainly agree to talk to your husband, but you will likely need to make some serious decisions in the near future, and any support you can find will help you to be strong as you do so.
Many people will simply not marry a non member so that is something to consider. It is not a given that we should all just accept a life and eternity with a spouse who does not share our faith, especially when our faith is so centered around eternal families and sacred ordinances that can onl be found within Christ's church. So you and only you can decide what you must do here. And any help you ask for can only help to strengthen you whatever you decide in the end. <3
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 1:03 am
by Obrien
I don't mean to sound cold or condescending. I just notice it's been only 4 DAYS and he is a BELOVED HUSBAND. I believe in dealing with your own problems since you are the one who ultimately has to actually live with the outcome.
there's also a big difference between being childlike and childish. one is a virtue, one is not. you'll have to decide.
be patient and listen to him. there is no reason to rush into ANY decision. time is your friend.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 1:10 am
by Bananikka
Until we walk a mile in somebody's shoes we cannot judge them or their behavior. We have no way of knowing how we would react being in somebody else's unique circumstances,
Especially when they're tragic and extremely painful. When people reach out pleading for comfort and support I think that is exactly what we as Christians need to give them.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 1:15 am
by Robert Sinclair
I am certain that if the leaders of the church acknowledge the offence against God of not keeping the commandments of being equal in their temporal things and this not grudgingly by giving covenants and deeds that cannot be broken into the hands of the poor and needy Saints among us, Denver Snuffer seeking God and Jesus Christ himself would see the truth and goodness of these things and return himself if he knows what the Scriptures written say. I am curious what exactly is his position on being cleansed every whit of his iniquity and of being equal in our temporal things by giving covenants and deeds that cannot be broken into the hands of every single Saint before even one single brick is laid down for any temple. Someone should ask him about these things.
Has he been cleansed every whit of his iniquity where he can heal Simon or Annies friend? If not there is much more to be awaken and brought to light as yet in his own life as with mine.

♡
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 2:37 am
by Seek the Truth
Let me talk to him, I'll set him straight.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 6:51 am
by ajax
In the end, Love matters, and is the binding agent, not religious affiliation. Just love. Don't bring other adults into your marriage. They, in the end, just end up meddling. Complain only to God. Seek a blessing from His hand. Love your husband like never before and honor his agency.
In 1842, Hyrum Smith wrote this letter to the church:
"To our well beloved brother Parley P. Pratt, and to the elders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in England, and scattered abroad throughout all Europe, and to the Saints—Greeting:
Whereas, in times past persons have been permitted to gather with the Saints at Nauvoo, in North America—such as husbands leaving their wives and children behind; also, such as wives leaving their husbands, and such as husbands leaving their wives who have no children, and some because their companions are unbelievers. All this kind of proceedings we consider to be erroneous and for want of proper information. And the same should be taught to all the Saints, and not suffer families to be broken up on any account whatever if it be possible to avoid it. Suffer no man to leave his wife because she is an unbeliever. These things are an evil and must be forbidden by the authorities of the church or they will come under condemnation; for the gathering is not in hast nor by flight, but to prepare all things before you, and you know not but the unbeliever may be converted and the Lord heal him; but let the believers exercise faith in God, and the unbelieving husband shall be sanctified by the believing wife; and the unbelieving wife by the believing husband, and families are preserved and saved from a great evil which we have seen verified before our eyes. Behold this is a wicked generation, full of lyings, and deceit, and craftiness; and the children of the wicked are wiser than the children of light; that is, they are more crafty; and it seems that it has been the case in all ages of the world.
And the man who leaves his wife and travels to a foreign nation, has his mind overpowered with darkness, and Satan deceived him and flatters him with the graces of the harlot, and before he is aware he is disgraced forever; and greater is the danger for the woman that leaves her husband. The evils resulting from such proceedings are of such a nature as to oblige us to cut them off from the church.
And we also forbid that a woman leave her husband because he is an unbeliever. We also forbid that a man shall leave his wife because she is an unbeliever. If he be a bad man (i.e., the believer) there is a law to remedy that evil. And if the law divorce them, then they are at liberty; otherwise they are bound as long as they two shall live, and it is not our prerogative to go beyond this; if we do it, it will be at the expense of our reputation.
These things we have written in plainness and we desire that they should be publicly known, and request this to be published in the STAR.
May the Lord bestow his blessings upon all the Saints richly, and hasten the gathering, and bring about the fullness of the everlasting covenant are the prayers of your brethren."
Written by Hyrum Smith, patriarch.
Also consider this:
You may have a spouse who is Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterian or Mormon. You may have a
spouse who is Community of Christ Mormon. You may have a spouse who believes in dancing
naked at Wiccan ceremonies while high on peyote. You and your spouse need to love one
another. You and your spouse have something far, far greater, potentially, between you and your
children, than all the distractions of this world. You and your spouse face the challenge of
becoming one. And if you are one, remember that the Lamanites were condemned, consistently
in the Book of Mormon, BUT they were praised and ultimately preserved because of their
marriages, because of the love of the spouses. - Snuffer, St George talk.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 6:53 am
by Rose Garden
freedomforall wrote:Jezebel wrote:I second and third Orien's advice.
To be a grown up? Isn't that rather cold and insulting? That's exactly what someone hurting wants to hear?
No. To talk to her husband.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 9:21 am
by Thomas
The OP is quite odd. Whoever it is cannot form proper English sentences but knows how to use ellipsis and quotation marks.
Seems contrived to me. How is it they know how to use punctuation but can't form simple sentences?
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 9:31 am
by SpeedRacer
When life finally takes you to this point, CRY to the LORD. He is the healer of your heart. Lean not on your own understanding, humble yourself and cry to him will all the energy of your heart. Let the tears flow. He will comfort you.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 11:24 am
by Bananikka
Thomas wrote:The OP is quite odd. Whoever it is cannot form proper English sentences but knows how to use ellipsis and quotation marks.
Seems contrived to me. How is it they know how to use punctuation but can't form simple sentences?
Thomas are you for real? She is Hispanic. I could see this from a mile away as my husband is Hispanic as well and she speaks very much like him when he speaks our (their SECOND) tongue. Have a little compassion, were not all Shakespeare's and what does that even matter? She could be a wonderful speaker in her native tongue. Moses himself was not a good speaker and he was a great prophet of God. Please don't be so quick to judge. <3
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 11:31 am
by Bananikka
I'm sorry but the advise to stick around with the high naked dancing Wiccan husband is just terrible. A little bit of common sense goes a long way. When we value ourselves and our children we will not invite evil into our homes and lives.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 11:36 am
by Thomas
I have seen a lot of phony posters on this forum. It seems odd that someone with no command of the language has those type of punctuation skills. They usually go hand in hand.
Those who don't understand their sentences are not complete usually don't add ellipsis to aid in understanding.
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 11:42 am
by Bananikka
Perhaps you would prefer she communicate then in her native tongue, which I know by personal experience, she does quite beautifully. Then you won't have to worry about how much her imperfections inconvenience you.

Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 11:44 am
by Bananikka
I on the other hand may err once in a while when responding to her, which I suppose makes me a potential evil imposter.. Thankfully it has been my experience that she is alot more forgiving than others in that regard. ;)
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 12:01 pm
by Thomas
So, you are saying you know this person on outside of cyberspace ?
Re: ....PLEASE help me..please...
Posted: October 3rd, 2014, 12:06 pm
by Bananikka
I have messaged with her privately and she is very fluent and I would say probably much more comfortable speaking Spanish.