That isn't what I hear in April...or October.
I feel sorry for you.
Well don't feel bad Obrien (think of your name). I believe that Sacrament meeting will not hold my attention today to the point that I'm not going. But then I'm a bit flu/cold/sinus infection maybe contagious so I have reason.
If I had them, I no longer have complaints or gripes about tithing. I simply believe in common consent and openness, to those making the contributions.David13 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2018, 8:58 amWell don't feel bad Obrien (think of your name). I believe that Sacrament meeting will not hold my attention today to the point that I'm not going. But then I'm a bit flu/cold/sinus infectionT maybe contagious so I have reason.
Transparency.
First, I say your petition (or theirs) and didn't sign it.
I also haven't read all the 11 pages here since 2015.
But the way I feel about transparency is, to me, and I know this is a very simple and simple minded analysis, but to me transparency is as if we were to have a glass church, a flass Temple so that anyone just passing by or visiting could see inside and see all.
If there is transparency then the entire world sees what becomes transparent. And that seems unnecessary.
Maybe it's just that I never wanted to live in a glass house. Nor worship in a glass church or Temple.
I have other complaints or gripes, but that isn't one of mine.
dc
Good ideas. We also have been sending our tithes to those in need and in more open ways.Obrien wrote: ↑December 9th, 2018, 4:11 pm In the spirit of transparency and full disclosure, I no longer have gripes about tithing because I have opted out of paying money exclusively to LDSCo. I still give fast offerings, mainly to pretend the money may help my local area, but I make no contribution to the tithing funds.
My wife and I jointly select local charities, shelters, crisis centers etc and make our donations. For the last few years we have also adopted a stake in cooperation with liahona children's foundation. They do good work, and I encourage everyone to donate their tithing to LCF instead of LDSCo. It's a pity Mormon kids are going hungry all around the world and we're busy transacting business as usual in America. God have mercy on us...
Based on a post you made a few years ago and praying and pondering, giving to LCF is mostly how I pay my tithing now. They really are a great organization.Obrien wrote: ↑December 9th, 2018, 4:11 pm In the spirit of transparency and full disclosure, I no longer have gripes about tithing because I have opted out of paying money exclusively to LDSCo. I still give fast offerings, mainly to pretend the money may help my local area, but I make no contribution to the tithing funds.
My wife and I jointly select local charities, shelters, crisis centers etc and make our donations. For the last few years we have also adopted a stake in cooperation with liahona children's foundation. They do good work, and I encourage everyone to donate their tithing to LCF instead of LDSCo. It's a pity Mormon kids are going hungry all around the world and we're busy transacting business as usual in America. God have mercy on us...
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Interesting, me thinks 2 investigate further.LucianAMD wrote: ↑December 9th, 2018, 10:47 pmBased on a post you made a few years ago and praying and pondering, giving to LCF is mostly how I pay my tithing now. They really are a great organization.Obrien wrote: ↑December 9th, 2018, 4:11 pm In the spirit of transparency and full disclosure, I no longer have gripes about tithing because I have opted out of paying money exclusively to LDSCo. I still give fast offerings, mainly to pretend the money may help my local area, but I make no contribution to the tithing funds.
My wife and I jointly select local charities, shelters, crisis centers etc and make our donations. For the last few years we have also adopted a stake in cooperation with liahona children's foundation. They do good work, and I encourage everyone to donate their tithing to LCF instead of LDSCo. It's a pity Mormon kids are going hungry all around the world and we're busy transacting business as usual in America. God have mercy on us...
LucianAMD - I'm not on ldsff a lot these days, but I want you to know I read your post this morning and literally cried in response (btw, I'm not a big crier. I've cried a couple of times this decade so far). LCF (I understand their name is changing soon) DOES do fantastic work. They're legit. I'm so happy to hear your also supporting them. If nothing else, your giving to LCF alone had made this thread of value.LucianAMD wrote: ↑December 9th, 2018, 10:47 pmBased on a post you made a few years ago and praying and pondering, giving to LCF is mostly how I pay my tithing now. They really are a great organization.Obrien wrote: ↑December 9th, 2018, 4:11 pm In the spirit of transparency and full disclosure, I no longer have gripes about tithing because I have opted out of paying money exclusively to LDSCo. I still give fast offerings, mainly to pretend the money may help my local area, but I make no contribution to the tithing funds.
My wife and I jointly select local charities, shelters, crisis centers etc and make our donations. For the last few years we have also adopted a stake in cooperation with liahona children's foundation. They do good work, and I encourage everyone to donate their tithing to LCF instead of LDSCo. It's a pity Mormon kids are going hungry all around the world and we're busy transacting business as usual in America. God have mercy on us...
Shadow - I am grateful for your plea of mercy on my behalf. Please keep pleading on my behalf.shadow wrote: ↑December 9th, 2018, 6:00 pm Tithing isn't ours. We don't have say in where it's spent, scripturally we never have had a say. If we don't pay it to where the Lord has revealed as found in the D&C (and biblically as a 2nd witness) then it's just a nice donation, but it isn't tithing in any sense of the word. God have mercy on those who refuse to tithe. Those who receive tithing have the job of dispersing tithing and they have been directed as to where and how to spend it-also found in the D&C. Those who don't like it can pound sand, as they often do.
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