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Just a quick note...for those who may need to know....

I am leaving out of town on Weds. August 27th- Sept. 3rd and will not have internet or cell phone reception.

Thanks.

Thank you njb yay!!!! And julie I saw I believe in your website that you were considering coming to Orem Utah. Please do I would be delighted to see you speak!!! (Really!)

I second this; I would try very hard to be there. I would like to be in the same room as Julie; the Spirit will let me know what I need to hear.

Bananikka wrote:Thank you njb yay!!!! And julie I saw I believe in your website that you were considering coming to Orem Utah. Please do I would be delighted to see you speak!!! (Really!)

If Julie speaks in the Orem area I would probably attend that and I imagine several other forum members would as well.

Thank you, Njb.

It was a pleasure meeting you. Wish we had more time we could have talked but too many people and too much going on.

Glad you could make it though.

I also greatly appreciate your kind posts on here and that you have continued to come to my defense.

I am very grateful to you. I hope it was worth your time to come last night and that it was of benefit to you.

Spread the message....there are still many who will benefit from hearing it.

Thanks again! Look forward to reading your notes. (You know how it is, when your have promptings and impressions from the spirit to say certain things, then later, you can't really remember what you said. So...I am not really sure about most of what I said, but I do remember a few details. Please leave out the really big detail I shared that was meant only for those in attendance ----hopefully you know what I am talking about....about some changes in my personal situation coming soon).

Thanks again.

Everyone-

So I started out live blogging this, here on the forum but Julie asked that attendees not do this as somethings said might be transcribed incorrectly, twisted and distorted, so out of respect for her request I had Jules delete that thread.

Several of you snapper heads asked me where that thread went to-now you have your answer.



That said, I brought my home teaching companion, Justin and had invited several other people including my LMT, Terrell who did show and got a picture with Julie. See below, oh any of you in the Mesa area Terrell's Spa is called: Healing Arts Day Spa-it's great.
Now to the summary, but before we embark-

A Warning to all:
Chowderheads
Snifferites
Dusterites
Brethrenites,
and
other obnoxious
online agitators, this is my review as I absorbed it, your comments if anything towards me or Julie that are anything less than charitable are not welcomed, so please stay away, and find another thread if you re tempted to opine.

Watching Julie, I noticed she was tall, had a warm smile, was kind, and not a pretentious person or stuffy orator.
Through out the evening, i noticed a whitish 3 inch aura around her entire being when she spoke of spiritual matters.
I also saw a girl that looked good in a dress that would have no problem also engaging in a game of softball or volleyball.
Not bad for 42, looked maybe 35.

Her message, was done sort of as a town hall meeting w 150-200 in attendance. People were were free to ask her questions.

A summary and some of the questions are covered below:

There are no coincidences in life, that we weren't in that LDS Stake Center by a fluke, we were all drawn there, meaning for all we know, we could have even been foreordained to be there-not her words: (my interpretation).

The meeting had a feeling of a 'Spiritual CERT meeting'. Basically her message with what she was shown: the time is now to get our spiritual houses in order, and necessities such as food storage, tents, warm clothes, hygiene materials etc in order as well.

Notes:

-The Lord has individual plans for each of us, He is concerned about us far more then we realize.

-We all have gifts, we will be called to use them sometime in our lives-during tribulations

-There will be a call out, the LDS Church will have places of refuge, where we will be directed as members.

-Foreign Troops will invade the USA, from Russia and China, also large earthquakes, diseases, tsunamis will ravish the earth before we're invaded.

-Call out will happen, many won't heed the call out, some will heed the call out at first, hang out for a few days, and then will think danger has been abated, leave a city of refuge, then will be captured or killed by either troops or a calamity.

-Upper Cache Valley Utah and Snowflake area of Az will be where some tent cities or cities of refuge may be.

-Most of So Az and Phoenix will be a dangerous place, we will need to get north, White Mountains, Snowflake etc.

-LDS Temples are actually protected with 'shields'. Some will be assigned to protect Temples.

-FEMA Camps are real and will happen, many will be die there.

-Essential Oils and Energy Healing could be some of the moralities employed to cure us. Women, yes women may be granted gifts to Heal during this time period, sorry "Peter Priesthoods".

-City of Chicago is going to become extremely dangerous, same with Colorado.

-If you're spiritually prepared, you will be prompted on what you need to do to be ready.

-Upcoming months and next few years, will become more and more bleak-we're gonna be lulled into false sense of security, then s*it will hit fan, hopefully you've been preparing during this time.

-Go to your meetings, this shows you're humble and submissive enough to become prepared.

-A lot of the miracles that happened in "17 Miracles" will also similarly occur during the tribulations.

-The Adversary works hard to dissuade us using tactics such as Pride, or the opposite: Low Self Worth, recognize both as tools to derail us. Be confident, humble and obedient. The Lord will instruct you along the way.


Julie's experiences remind me alot of The Horseshoe Prophecy and other end of time visions and dreams by LDS Prophets and Apostles and even many non LDS.

I did get to meet her and she signed my book.


I believe her experiences to be real and her work supported and commissioned by The Lord.

njb

BrianM wrote:

Bananikka wrote:Thank you njb yay!!!! And julie I saw I believe in your website that you were considering coming to Orem Utah. Please do I would be delighted to see you speak!!! (Really!)

If Julies speaks in the Orem area I would probably attend that and I imagine several other forum members would as well.

Julie, not Julies, lets keep your ladies in order broa.

njb

Thank you so much for sharing that!!! I can't wait for her to come close to me I would so love to hear her speak. I'm sitting at the edge of my seat here, but not hoping to speed time as I have more preparing to do for sure! Here's to hoping The Lord will grant me the time and ability to do all I need to!

And that He will find me worthy of personal revelation and guidance to safety!

Thanks for posting the summary of Julie's talk, NJB. Sounds like it was really inspiring. Hope my work schedule allows me to get out to listen to her when she speaks in Orem.

Upcoming months and next few years, will become more and more bleak-we're gonna be lulled into false sense of security, then s*it will hit fan, hopefully you've been preparing during this time.

So did you get the sense it's going to be a few years before the call-out? Any comments on or insight into the timeframe of the call-out?

I'll say one thing for sure, I've never paid such close attention to church announcements before!

Sunshine2014 wrote:

Upcoming months and next few years, will become more and more bleak-we're gonna be lulled into false sense of security, then s*it will hit fan, hopefully you've been preparing during this time.

So did you get the sense it's going to be a few years before the call-out? Any comments on or insight into the timeframe of the call-out?

Everything seems that tribulation, call outs are to begin very soon and/or within the next 2-4 years.

njb

BrianM wrote:

Bananikka wrote:Thank you njb yay!!!! And julie I saw I believe in your website that you were considering coming to Orem Utah. Please do I would be delighted to see you speak!!! (Really!)

If Julies speaks in the Orem area I would probably attend that and I imagine several other forum members would as well.

I attended in Logan, and I would attend in Orem as well, along with many family members.

Thank you David for your posts and for your kind words.

Given that I arrived at 6:15 and then between 6:30-7:00 p.m. as people were arriving, it was cool to meet so many great people and to visit with them to find out where they were from and how they had heard about the event. I appreciate what you have shared. We were scheduled to go until 9 p.m. but didn't finish until almost 9:30 - then I had the opportunity afterwards to meet so many wonderful people. It was truly a very humbling experience for me and I am very grateful. Ended up leaving by about 10:20 p.m. So I was pretty exhausted by the time I got home last night. So worth it though.

Here's what I saw and felt: There were 250-300 people there sitting in chairs and there were literally several hundred more there from the other side of the veil. Assisting, guarding, ministering to those who needed to hear certain messages. It was remarkable. On the two hour drive home and several times today I have been brought to tears just thinking about the reality of what went on in that room last night.

Giant spirits in attendance and so so so many good people. Makes it all worth it. Makes all of my pain and suffering worth it. Some of the things I have experienced in my life I would never wish on my worst enemy, and I don't ever want to go through them again, but I would go through it all again for the purpose of helping even just one person come to Christ and do what ever it is they need to do to fulfill their own mission and to prepare for the days that will soon be upon us.

It is my witness and my testimony that God lives. He loves us. Each one of us. Individually. He knows us. By name. Individually. He cares. He listens. He's there. He hears and answers our prayers.

It is truly amazing what can happen when we open our heart and minds.

Thank you to all who attended. I hope you were able to feel of my love and sincere gratitude for you and for our loving Father in Heaven. What a beautiful plan He has for us. We may not always understand it - in fact if you are like me you may have had times in your life when you really didn't like it at all- but I do know that His Plan is tailor made for us and it is the perfect plan for us and what we each need.

God is good.

I wasn't going to put in my 2 cents worth here but I can't resist. Since I have had many dreams during my life, dreams/visions that were significant warnings of actual events and others that taught me with visual stories I feel it necessary to comment.

First of all I cannot deny that I had them. I cannot deny they happened. Many were yes....significant and showed events that have happened and warned ME of other events that are going to happen. Although I have shared a few on special occasions and with very close friends and family, most of the information I've kept to myself and written in my journal.

Now...that being said, why is that some folks spend their time debunking the dreams/visions of others in an open forum like this? If I remember right there was a major disclosure statement announcing these dreams/visions were PERSONAL in nature and were NOT to be taken as doctrine or church instruction. They were to HELP us with the chronological time frame, our preparation for some of the catastrophic events and let us know the time is short. This disclosure statement is in J Rowe's book as well as Visions of Glory and some of the other books written.

I read these books to compare my OWN dreams/visions with theirs. Some are different, some are eerily the same. However that doesn't mean THEIR dreams/visions are not true and didn't happen. They belong to them. I wouldn't 'dream' (pun intended) of telling these authors their dreams were true or untrue. It's not my place, my business, or my 'calling' to tell these authors what they did or didn't experience. I appreciate their sharing their experiences and the opportunity to read about them. No wonder the Lord doesn't give us more information in the dream/visions format with all the skeptics, naysayers and pompous comments being tossed about.

It comes back to the saying, "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." This isn't junior high gossip session on this forum. This is for mature adults and we should be edifying, teaching, sharing, informing and uplifting each other NOT making petty little comments about someone who has had a special experience and was admonished by the Spirit to share.

I for one appreciate all the special experiences that have been written about. I also appreciate the courage of those authors to share such personal experiences. May a remind you Pres Hinckley quoted the vision of Joel and I believe those times are here. https://www.lds.org/general-conference/ ... s?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BrianM wrote:

Bananikka wrote:Thank you njb yay!!!! And julie I saw I believe in your website that you were considering coming to Orem Utah. Please do I would be delighted to see you speak!!! (Really!)

If Julie speaks in the Orem area I would probably attend that and I imagine several other forum members would as well.

Julie, do you think you could come to London?

My family would so attend these meetings in a heartbeat if it were possible, but living in the UK makes it a bit difficult. Thank you njb for sharing this, it really helps to feel part of it and to gain insights. And thank you Julie for your message.

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Everything seems that tribulation, call outs are to begin very soon and/or within the next 2-4 years.

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Don't hate me for saying it, but that's possibly the best news I've heard in a while. Honestly, with everything going on lately, I've been starting to wonder/worry about whether I could get everything in order before it all hits the fan. I'm fairly certain I can have everything good to go within the next year, but definitely within the next two years, given the speed at which I am approaching our preparations. I feel a great sense of purpose and urgency about this work, as I have for years now, but only recently have my circumstances allowed me to do more to really put it into high gear. I don't want the saints to consider me a burden, nor do I want to be short the price of admission.

njb's notes said:
-Essential Oils and Energy Healing could be some of the moralities employed to cure us. Women, yes women may be granted gifts to Heal during this time period, sorry "Peter Priesthoods"

I think Julie is sincere and provides some good info in general as far as I can tell but this is one of the spots where she loses me and likely many other members.
Every thing else is very probable and backs up other accounts of likely happenings in the latter days from both members and prophets. The energy healing phenomenon is a polarizing topic and for good reason.
There are plenty of anecdotal stories of success but there are also anecdotal stories of people learning about it or having gone through a session and just not feeling right about. This is compounded by the apparent lack of any clinical documentation especially considering it is supposed to be a physiological, not religiously connected or divine event.
Is anyone able to address these concerns?

Note I said *could be.
She did also talk about emotion code etc

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Do you have an explanation for why people like you and Julie Rowe do energy work, and are not bothered by the "authorities" but Dr Fish was excommunicated, (and it was for the counseling he did, not any other alleged sin)?

Bethany - Appreciate the reply. Where are you getting this info? Dr who? Why is this the first time I'm hearing about it (and I'm a lifelong member)? Because IMHO it sounds very unlikely, almost made up. What happened to 'sticks and stones...'? I believe God has the power to curse a person or people but wiccan curses? Really? I thought it was all a physiological thing. Sorry, I'm not really seeing it..

neither did i until i was forced to accept reality. sometimes we have to be thrown into the ocean to learn how to swim. why would you wade into an ugly world if it didn't appear to affect you.

if you have the access, talk to Elder Glenn Pace, I did. i've also talked to a number of people that he has worked with.

which information are you asking the source of?